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Praise for Falklands world-wide diplomacy
Falkland Islanders have been praised for their international campaign of diplomacy explaining their democratic credentials to the world and proclaiming their overwhelming referendum vote for self-determination and retaining their links with the United Kingdom. Read full article
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Dec 08th, 2013 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Islanders have been praised... blah......blah...... blah...... by the Falkland Islands Association.....
Say No More :-)))
Hahaha, they had to be kidding!!!!!!. They are even comparing Argentine economy with the islands economy as if comparing two similar nations!!!!!!!
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Somebody should tell islanders they are a tiny town, that they dont have an economy of their own, but the economy of a world power. And its turism, fishing or oil, serves colonialism and britain to make monney there to sustain the development of that colony for future british generations.
They want the world to believe they are british south americans!!!!!!!!!
@2
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It isn't a colony and its GDP per capita far exceeds that of Argentina so why do you mock? They are doing very well for themselves and you clearly hate that.
Falkland Islands #8
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rjuntina #68
In economic terms the Falkland Islands are near the top of the GDP table, jelousy is a terrible affliction.....And the oil isnt pumping just yet!
And, the Islanders certainly dont want to be branded as South Americans - really!
Great comeback Think!
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Liberato, I see you didn't disappear after all. Just couldn't bring yourself to reply on other threads..... well you come from a long line of Malvinistas with that trait.
“They are even comparing Argentine economy with the islands economy as if comparing two similar nations!!!!!!!”
While I respect the fact that you call the Falkland Islands a NATION, which even poor Think recently was unable to counter-argue, the article was quite adamant that they are definitely not SIMILAR nations.
Alan Huckle “contrasted the progress and prospects of the Falklands’ strong economy with that of Argentina, suffering high inflation and unemployment”.
They are not similar at all. Thank God for the Falkland Islanders.
“Somebody should tell islanders they are a tiny town, that they don’t have an economy of their own, but the economy of a world power.”
The Islanders have never stated that they are not small. But unfortunately for you they do have their own economy. Is it linked to another economy? Yes! And thank you for admitting that the UK is a WORLD POWER.
Who did Argentina link their economy with? Brazil. Pity they didn't find a world power of their own. Maybe why they decided to link it to Venezuela instead. LOL Gets better and better NOT.
“tourism, fishing or oil, serves colonialism and Britain to make money there to sustain the development of that colony for future British generations.”
If you want to call it a colony do so. No one will stop you. But you are right. Those industries are there to sustain development for future British generations and NOT future Argentine generations.
So glad you are getting with the programme.
“They want the world to believe they are British South Americans!!!!!!!!!”
Britons off the coast of South America will do. But British South Americans... what an interesting concept. As there is no one culture or language to be South American that is certainly a possible identity.
Do you read you oiwn newspapers Think - an Argentine can hardly complain about self-praise .........not with an Argie ego :-)
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And at least their econopmy is improving Liberato.
http://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/falklands-history18.pdf
Faz, Redrow, Britain controls and exploit vast areas of the south atlantic, so 3000 people will surelly be happy to receive that kind of income. But what those 3000 inhabitants can produce? nothing more than wool made by a little tiny town.
Dec 08th, 2013 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im not mocking Redrow. But you cant make me believe it is “their” economy and that they are not a colony while UN define them clearly as a Non self governing territory under a colonial situation waiting for decolonization.
The administrative power of the islands is known to be the UK, and the name of the islands for all purpose is Falklands (Malvinas) in english and Malvinas (falklands) in spanish (according to the United Nations).
The islanders certainly dont want to be branded as south americans while they are in Europe. In Here, when they go to Uruguay, Brasil, etc, they are all south american brothers hahaha.
When talking with me, they are not south americans nor europeans, they consider themselves south atlantiqueans hahahahaha.
7 Liberato
Dec 09th, 2013 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0What rot. The UK does not control and exploit vast areas of the South Atlantic. All revenues from the issuing of oil exploration and fishing licences accrue soley to the Falklands Government, which is financially independant from the UK. The Falklands Government has its own tax system and is not only maintaining a budget surplus but has has reserves equivalent to two years expenditure. Their inclusion on the UN non-self governing list gives them the right of self-determination. By exercising this right in their recent referendum indicating their choice to remain a British overseas territory they should by rights be removed from the list.
How the islanders choose to be governed is hardly any of Argentinas business really. Given the kind of countries on the UN committee (Syria, Iran, China) I'm not convinced they are fit and proper countries to judge how other democracies should settle their affairs. These things should be decided by the people themselves.
@7
Dec 09th, 2013 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortuneately for you, the FALKLANDERS prefer to be aligned with the UK. Why are you so jealous?
AREGENTINA = BITTER TWISTED NATION
Dec 09th, 2013 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rupert dog, how brain washed you are. You are so naive that thinks that british interests are to help selflessly the interests of the others!!!!. You think the uk is in wars to liberate people or to free the world from weapons of mass destruction.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0You should take your ass for a walk and travel to other nations and read sometimes news from other non british sources.
Britain established a “marine protected area” in a vast area around South Georgia and south Sandwich creating a fishing licensed industry.
The Malvinas inclusion in the UN decolonization list does not gives them the right to self determination. They are listed there becouse they are a colony, administered by its administering power, which is the uk, and is listed there with the aim to end colonialism in all its forms.
For example, If Argentina decides to invade a sovereign nation like Uruguay, expelling the Uruguayans and implanting our own population. That territory will also be a colony subject for decolonization. And it will not be legal for argentines living in that colony to claim for self determination.
There are several ways of colonization. The colonial situation of the islands differes from other cases of colonialism and it would be good that you british stop blaming Syria, Iran or China for being in the Committe. They are sovereign nations like yours. and ALL NATIONS HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND OBLIGATIONS you stupid discriminatory fool.
@liberato How much aid did The Botox Queen send to the Philippines????
Dec 09th, 2013 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah! English morons!
Dec 09th, 2013 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Speak like they were two countries, Britain and the Malvinas Argentinas.
So the very ridiculous comparing beardless 3,000 squatters last colony of a bygone era with a country like Argentina.
These always stupid with your same lie intended to deceive the world: the territory is British because the occupants want to be. However is, if objectively, the territory it belongs to the ALL nation of Argentina or it belongs to the ALL British nation regardless of its occasional inhabitants.
“Mr Huckle said any normal person would accept this vote as decisive.”
Ha ha, it seems that the only “normal” in the world are British ..... and a few because the only ones that accept that view are those with vested interests.
“Mr Rogers recently led a delegation to the European Union which he thanked for making huge grants of 5.9 million Euros for Malvinas Islands development.”
So any develops the “big” economy of the Malvinas!
11 Liberato
Dec 09th, 2013 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0What nonsense you talk. If Argentina were to take control of the falklands than the islands truly would be a colony and the inhabitants a colonised people. Being non-self governing is not the same as being a colony. Giving the Falklanders the right to determine their own future, which is written into their constitution, is the one means by which they can achieve self government. This is what the UN secretary general meant in his statement to the Argentine press last Novemeber.
In international law the islanders DO have the right to determine their own future. They have the rightg BECAUSE they are on the list. You can't seriously beleive that de-colonisation implies stripping people of their rights, denying them any say in what Government they live under and forcing them to accept rule by an alien Government.
For your information South Georgia the South Shetlands and the South Sandwich islands were discovered and claimed for Britain by Captain Cook in the 1770's. If Britain chooses to create a marine protection area around them what business is that of Argentina?
Furthermore I can assure you I have travelled much and lived and worked abroad for several years.
So in summary.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Liberato is trotting out the same FALSE lines about the UN denying the Falkland Islands the right to self determination.
I bet my entire year's wage that he won't be able to find a UN resolution stating that very fact.
But then it gets better. How about this clanger:
“If Argentina decides to invade a sovereign nation like Uruguay, expelling the Uruguayans and implanting our own population”
When did the UK do this? I am still waiting for al its of the supposed Falkland Islanders that were expelled I'm guessing he means 1833.
And remember Liberato, troops and their families who had been there for less than 3 months don't count. Just settlers or inhabitants.
That list is about as elusive as the UN resolution denying the Falkland Islanders self determination.
It is like their simple brainwashed minds can't fathom or compute anything that differs from what they were taught. Because if they did research they would know that there is no such UN resolution and no list of expelled settlers.
And along comes Jose who repeats AGAIN that the Islands have few inhabitants that their economy is small..... no sh!t Sherlock. Still doesn't make the Argentine or even ready to join that badly run country.
Do they Praise themselves?
Dec 09th, 2013 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0“This meaningless Falklands referendum will resolve nothing”
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/09/meaningless-falklands-referendum-uk-sovereignty
“This isn't self-determination. It's a Ruritanian colonial relic”
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/09/meaningless-falklands-referendum-uk-sovereignty
”Falklands referendum: Why ask British people if they want to be British?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/09/meaningless-falklands-referendum-uk-sovereignty
Blah blah blah Marcos.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still British and still not Argentine.
Reality must hurt SOOOOOO badly.
Do they praise themselves every week?
Dec 09th, 2013 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0How can I forget this article a few days ago:
“Falklands' referendum receives praise and is shown as an example for other Overseas Territories”
”http://en.mercopress.com/2013/11/28/falklands-referendum-receives-praise-and-is-shown-as-an-example-for-other-overseas-territories
Soooo insecure these Brits.
And yet the Islands are still British. So they can really say what they want about themselves.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is their praise any more pathetic than Argentinean laws aimed at the Islands that can't even WORK?
How pathetic is that?
The Argentine trolls are having a field day, aren't they? Not a gram of sense amongst all of them!
Dec 09th, 2013 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0All territories are won or lost through war. If you want them, fight us for them, otherwise stop boring people.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Liberato
Dec 09th, 2013 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are a hypocrit..and a fool.
Firstly, Britain does not exploit great swathes of the South Atlantic at all. In fact britain receives no income from its South Atlantic territories, they are administered at a small cost. This cost is due to the provision of a defence force in the Falklands to protect them from “murdering fascist invasions, indiscriminate unmapped minefields, being used as a human shield etc etc” which is what YOU did last time their defences were lowered.
I enjoy your view that conquered territories need decolonizing. The Falklands are not a conquered territory, but Argentina (and more latterly Patagonia) absolutely are....tell me, when will you be going home to Spain?
The eviction in the Falklands of a 50 or so militia in 1833 whod been on the islands for less than two months is a pale comparison against the massacre of 100,000s of Amerindians for which you ancestors are guilty.
The 2008 UNGA resolution absolutely concurs that ALL non-self governing territories have the right to self determination.
So, Liberato...you lies dont wash here...
@20. Yup, out in force today to rant at an article that highlights the grandeur of the K's decade long and incredibly expensive failure. Their frustration is off the chart today... Best go to the docs and have blood pressure checked.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0FALKLANDS son INGLES
Dec 09th, 2013 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Liberato
Dec 09th, 2013 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I also note your comment that all nations have the same rights and obligations.
In the UN General Assembly this is true. The Decolonization committee, puts forward proposals that can be accepted, modified or rejected by the General Assembly.
Therefore the decolonization committee members have rights and obligations to try and reflect ALL nations not just their own.
In 2008 it was abundantly clear that the Decolonization committee ABJECTLY FAILED to do this.
Its attempt to suggest that only non-self governing territories where NO SOVEREIGNTY DISPUTE exists were entitled to self-determination was ammended and those key words removed.
Look at the countries that supported the inclusion of this limitation...predominantly LATAM and a few dictatorships in Africa and Asia...and look at the overwhelming majority of nations that removed the offending words.
So, if as you claim, you respect the rights and obligations of all nations....you should stfu with your ridiculous crap, and respect that ALL NSGT have the right to self determination...and the Falkland islanders have elected their choice.
Argentina has no say WHATSOEVER. There are 200 countries with stronger sovereignty claims to the islands than Argentina. These countries have never invaded, never planted unmapped minefields, never used the population as a human shield, never lied, threatened or harmed the islands economy.
The islands sovereignty future will be decided by the islanders. They may remain a BOT, they may elect independence, or they may elect to become a state of Mongolia....what they will never be is part of Argentina, a fascist, corrupt cesspit of a country with a poorly educated, lazy and ignorant populus.
There are some real thickos in Argentina, no wonder the place is a basket case
Dec 09th, 2013 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Thanks for that, numpty. We will remember that when your cesspit is “praised” by all the organisations it belongs to. I note that your CESSPIT likes to trumpet how its is “supported” by mercosur and unasur. Which one of those is legitimate?
Dec 09th, 2013 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 You shouldn't attempt to laugh. It just confirms that you are brainwashed and demented. Why shouldn't the Falklands and cesspit economies be compared? Just shows that, despite all its attempts, the cesspit can't affect the Falklands. Did you know that the Falklands GDP per capita is THREE times that of argieland? So it's true, your cesspit can't be compared. In a world listing, the Falklands is 9th. Your cesspit is 55th. Oh, and please identify the links between the Falklands economy and that of the UK. As you, correctly, say the UK is a WORLD POWER. But where is the link to the Falklands economy. You will require actual, verifiable facts. Never mind the “everyone knows”. Put up or shut up!
@7 And here's your chance. Please quantify the income received by the Falkland Islands from that “vast area of the South Atlantic”. Try identifying the companies concerned, balance sheets, government accounts. As for the Falklands being a “colony”, that's only because of wankers like the UN and wankers like you. Did you know that, legally, the Falkland Islands can tell the UN to get stuffed? By what right does an unelected body, of which the Falkland Islands is NOT a member, “define” the status of the Islands? Today, the UN is worth about the same as the League of Nations in the 30s.
@11 Incidentally, thick git, ALL people have the right to self-determination. Even you. When you're eating grass and freezing to death, remember that.
@13 Shut it, dimwit. You don't have enough brain to discuss anything with a Briton or a Falkland Islander. But you DO make your gang territory look sub-human. But it is, isn't it?
Huckles comparison is maybe a little far fetched, but it is interesting. The Falklands have an economy based traditionally on sheep farming for wool, but which now produces meat for export, a tourism industry based on wildlife and natural beauty, and a very successful deep sea fishing industry. We have more recently had some success exploring for hydrocatbons which promises to become the largest industry for the next 50 years or so.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Compare and contrast with our neighbours. The natural resources are similar, though the scale is different. We have managed our resources senisbly and sensitively, ensuring long term sustainability. Our population has a high GDP per capita, no poverty and a good standard of living. Standards of education are European standard, and available to all.
With the same natural gifts and opportunities successive Argentine governments have turned a land of plenty into an economic basket case, where there is widespread poverty, rampant corruption and widespread inequality.
The purpose of the comparison is not to make fun of our disadvantaged neighbours, but to reinforce the point that Falkland Islanders have made a wise choice to stay away from Argentina. That we can survive despite the spiteful and resentful policies of the CFK government. The we can look after our own people despite Argentine bolckades. That we can succeed where others with the same resources and more have failed.
Are we in South America.....of course we are. Are we South American.....yes, but with a very distinct European culture. Are we a people in our own right.....of course we are, with up to nine generations of Falkland Islanders from many origins. Are we a colony of the UK.....no we are not, and have not been for some considerable time. Do we wish to become a colony of Argentina......over my dead body.
to all you Argentine prats on here, IF we had voted for Argentina to be our country of choosing via the referendum, we would not be a colony, we chose Britain, we are not a colony so stop being so pathetic. All people from most nations live here, not all british, so stop being so jealous. You will not get the Falklands from us.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL @ the Argie dwarfs...Nothing like a good laugh with my first early mornin cup of java...“Fact”....They just DONT get it,I guess we really should show kindness and understanding to them seeing as they are the third generation of indoctrinated “dwarfs”...Ohh well...(sigh)...!
Dec 09th, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Yes afield day to be sure. Just as well they are all using blank ammo otherwise massive hospital treatment for self inflicted gun shot wounds in the feet?
Dec 09th, 2013 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Liberato
Dec 09th, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ICJ Advisory Opinion of 21 June 1971
'Furthermore, the subsequent development of International Law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-development applicable to all of them.'
Paragraph 52
www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/53/5595.pdf
and
ICJ Advisory Opinion of 16 October 1975
Paragraph 54 refers
www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/61/6195.pdf
There is in fact no principle in International Law or UN doctrine that can displace the inalienable right to self-determination. In this regard, in 2008, the UN Fourth Committee rejected the claim that a dispute over sovereignty affected self-determination, affirming it to be a basic human right.
You WILL NOT find anything post 1971 from the UN Fourth Committee, UN General Assembly or the UN ICJ that contradicts the FACT that the inhabitants of ALL non-self-governing territories have the right to self-determination.
You might also want to take a look at Article 73 of the UN Charter - Declaration regards non-self-governing territories that says, 'the interests of the inhabitants are paramount.'
The Argentine government has been spreading misinformation and lies about the rights of the Falkland Islanders for years. Little wonder why the country is rated down in 106th position by the Global Transparency Index.
@16 Why ask Britons if they want to be british (and not Argentine)? Indeed. Why ask Danes or Belgians or Poles or Czechs if they want to be Danes, Belgians, Poles or Czechs rather than Germans.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You fascists never change. Ever.
Oficial Argentine government's response to this self-congratulation:
Dec 09th, 2013 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IExBXkic-Jo/TeTuz-W9UqI/AAAAAAAAAqc/ahCIQPJ1YQA/s1600/11yxrdo_wct.gif
That's pretty much the response to any Argentinian speaking in world politics.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not sue why Argentina would be laughing, They don't have the islands and are fighting a loosing battle:
3.bp.blogspot.com/-IExBXkic-Jo/TeTuz-W9UqI/AAAAAAAAAqc/ahCIQPJ1YQA/s1600/11yxrdo_wct.gif
No Argentina's official response will be next year in front of the UN C24. There'll be wailing and sobbing and gnashing of teeth at their impotence.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If only after 70 years someone would listen to uuuuussssssss *sob
Preorder your popcorn because it's quite entertaining.
An old favourite recently heard at Argentine ports is set to go No1 in The Argentine charts.
Dec 09th, 2013 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7YnOpOhu3c
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Dec 10th, 2013 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done deadbeat; another 3 articles more than 9 months old.
Credibility check anyone?
A bit off topic now although my observation was made while reflecting during a sunny Battle Day long weekend. I was down at a beach with my family enjoying the sunshine and having a nice chat with Mrs Bloggs while the kids were appreciating the space they enjoy and seem to notice more each time they come back from studies abroad.
We were watching some Gentoo penguins fishing when my eyes focussed on the minefield sign on the barbed wire fence just 10 feet in front of me. This is a mine field, I thought to myself, laid by Argentina. The same Argentina that is crying 'give peace a chance' and attacking the UK for 'militarising the South Atlantic.' Give me a break.
Article's translation into non-nonsensish:
Dec 10th, 2013 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britards are praising Britards for doing diplomacy on behalf of Britards.
Oh damn it, #1 and #16 had already stolen my line!
Dec 10th, 2013 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tit87;
Dec 10th, 2013 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is that when you were born? 1987?
Jesus, what a waste of a young life, wasting your time on here siding with those twats.......
EscosesDildo.
Anyway , the Falklands can't be Argentine . No one is rioting , killing or stealing , for a start .
Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only time that ever happened ? 74 days in 1982 when the Argies went to visit .
“”“”There is in fact no principle in International Law or UN doctrine that can displace the inalienable right to self-determination. In this regard, in 2008, the UN Fourth Committee rejected the claim that a dispute over sovereignty affected self-determination, affirming it to be a basic human right.“”“””
Dec 10th, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0QFT
Who cares what the trolls say,
Dec 10th, 2013 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are here, they are not.
They have made a right stuff-up of their own country, now they think that they have a right to stuff-up ours.
Doesn't work like that, you trolls.
Give Patagonia back to the native people & give Paraguay its land back which you thieving Argentines stole in 1871.
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Dec 10th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For your information, the Georgias Southern Islands were discovered by the crew of the Spanish ship LEON in 1765, June 29, calling them San Pedro. Then the pirate Cook the renamed Georgia in 1775.
Oh so the discovery of 1675 by British Merchant Anthony De La Roche doesn't count? Why was it called Roche Island on early maps then?
Dec 10th, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The alleged discovery of La Roche, is not accepted by historians (obviously not English) so sick doubtful, therefore it thinks they sighted the Malvinas in 1675.
Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The insurance data, yes, is the discovery by the Spanish merchant LEON in 1756.
@32,43. “QFT”
Dec 10th, 2013 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We probably need an acronym for “... And willfully ignored by the Malvanistas here just like they ignore UNSC 502” The validity of the “self-determination doesn't count when we don't want it to” clause has been lied about so many times here it stopped being funny ages ago.
The 2008 vote was free of all the Malvanista baggage and could not pass the Cinderella test. Too many feet (and necks) were going to be bound and stepped on had Spain and Argentina got their way. The voting (and even the abstaining) GA members saw through it and, in turn, put THEIR foot down on the fascist wannabe colonialists in Madrid and Buenos Aires. C24 ignores that vote since the “conflict” gives them exposure, “validation” and relevance, but they ignore the GA's vote and stance at the risk of their credibility which has been sinking since the Tokelau vote -- and how they won't even contemplate recognizing a far, *far* more decisive vote made by the Falklands,
good on The Falklands must suck for argentina to be so close, yet so far!
Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0diddums.......i would of thought argentinians have more pressing issues on their plate to worry about!
@39 Like anyone with intelligence listens to an argie or any other latino. Chile gets close to being intelligent. But then it “obeys” argieland. Any Chilean want to explain why you tug your forelock to argieland?
Dec 10th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 No, that is the age. It's why he's Tit86 as well. Senility means he can't remember his age.
@45 How unfortunate. South Georgia was “discovered” by Anthony de la Roche, London merchant, in 1675. Despite “Roche Island” being shown on a number of maps, the Spanish “Leon” couldn't find it until 1756. Eighty years to find something shown on a map!
@47 What insurance data? Bent Spanish data? Non-existent argieland data? Generally speaking, most Spanish and argie “data” is usually found to have been “rewritten” a number of times. But the most important thing is to recognise reality. Here's reality. Your “records” are lies. You've been brainwashed. You're a liar. And, most important, which do you want to be blown out of, the air or the sea. This is important, as we like to oblige. Mind you, nothing will happen unless you approach. Remember that, according to UNCLOS, all islands have their own continental shelves. These are also British territory. Stay away unless you have permission.
#47 ....but you, Argentina have never occupied any of the islands you crave. All you have ever tried to do is invade, and each time, we, the British have thrown you out. The longest you lasted was a couple of months. That entitles you to nothing. You are war criminals, liars and unsuccessful theives nothing more. The present population of the Falkland Islands have been in continuous residence since before 1833, the Islands belong to them and they have emphatically said they dont want to be under the yoke of Argentina. Dany, Marcos, Jose and el Think are stuffed.
Dec 10th, 2013 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Thieves unsuccessful”?
Dec 10th, 2013 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So the “british” are successfully THIEVES.
@52 José Mal,
Dec 10th, 2013 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you that incompetent, that you cannot even successfully steal something?
No, that can't be right.
You stole Patagonia, in fact ALL of Argentina, from the native peoples.
So you ARE successful thieves.
Tell us all, José, what “rights”do you have to South Georgia?
Bearing in mind that NO Argentines have ever lived there & it has been British territory before Argentina even existed.
No-one else, no other Argentine has been able to offer a truthful explanation.
Here's your chance, José. Go for it.
#52
Dec 10th, 2013 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who did we steal the islands from Jose ? It can't be Argentina is it did not exist then.
Jose, We never stole the Falklands, when we discovered and claimed them we found them uninhabited. You stole all the territory you inhabit from the indians and when they objected your ancestors slaughtered them. Look at your currency, it celebrates it.
Dec 10th, 2013 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who did you say were the thieves?
You are also unsuccessful colonialists arent you?
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Dec 11th, 2013 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0So touchy.
Dec 11th, 2013 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 02013 must be getting to poor ol' José Malvinero.
Another year that the Islands AREN'T Argentine. How many years is that since the myth was started? 74 years I do believe. So here is to the 75th anniversary of your fruitless and pathetic goal in 2014.
75 years of chasing a lie. Not that makes for a moron... sorry to steal your insult but it was just so fitting.
Perhaps you should change your name to Joe Falklandia for 2014. Because 2014 isn't going to be any better than 2013 for deluded people such as yourself.
@56 José Mal,
Dec 11th, 2013 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0l take it that that is a “NO”.
In other words, you cannot prove that you own South Georgia, simply because you do NOT own it.
So you are a liar as well as being a thief.
Did you say that you were going to cut your tongue off?
Please don't as you will bleed to death then we can't hear anymore funny stories from you! ha ha ha.
You really are a card, José,
You ought to be dealt with.
It always strikes me the anger and hatred Argentines have towards Falkland Islanders, particularly the MercoPress commenters. The constant taunting, the insults, the put downs and the need to belittle any accomplishments the Falkland Islands and its people achieve. The islanders know we have a small population and economy, but so what? What is this evidence of?
Dec 11th, 2013 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands is a well-managed, fiscally responsible, and socially and environmentally conscious group of islands. The islands and its people are not perfect, but we always have the right intentions. We are peaceful and safe. We are welcoming and courteous. We are tolerant and do not discriminate.
We have aspirations to grow our economy and strive to improve our standard of living. We work towards these goals through self-government. We strive for these goals while working in a harsh environment, political and geographical. But this doesn’t deter us.
So my question is, why do Argentines have such strong emotions of hatred towards us? Is it our fundamental rejection of all things Argentine? Is it our determination to do things our own way? Is it our pride of our history and heritage? Is it because we are different? Or is jealousy that we are able to continue towards a well-managed economy and high standard of living, despite the actions of a country of 40,000,000 people? I believe it is a mixture of all of these options.
When I see the anger in the words from Jose, Marcos and Malen, or the sarcastic and patronising words from Think and so_far, it only reaffirms to me that the Falkland Islands are moving in the right direction.
IT IS REALLY SAD THOUGH!! as RICH AS THE fALKLANDS/MALVINAS ARE AND NOT TO HAVE ANY FRIENDS IN THE VICINITY!! RATHER LONESOME!!ummmmm
Dec 11th, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#60
Dec 11th, 2013 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But they have friends in the vicinity. The penguins are much better company than the riff-raff inhabiting the near continent.
For God's sake, who would want to be associated with the likes of YOU, Jose, Malen, Dany et al.
This is the view from the cockpit of Britain’s newest Typhoon jet fighter
Dec 11th, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10508091/Amazing-360-degree-look-inside-Britains-newest-Typhoon-fighter.html
The RAF will next year start taking delivery of 40 of the new fighters
called tranche 3, is designed to allow air forces to carry more powerful, longer range weapons and enough updated electronics and sensors to accommodate weapons of the future.
New RAF Typhoons will be able to carry Storm Shadow cruise missiles and also Meteor long range air-to-air missiles
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Exclusive: First test flight of latest Typhoon jet
The Telegraph witnesses the inaugural flight of the latest generation of the Typhoon fighter jet
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10508091/Amazing-360-degree-look-inside-Britains-newest-Typhoon-fighter.html
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Aussie Sunshine says:
Dec 11th, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“IT IS REALLY SAD THOUGH!! as RICH AS THE fALKLANDS/MALVINAS ARE AND NOT TO HAVE ANY FRIENDS IN THE VICINITY!! RATHER LONESOME!!ummmmm”
But look at the size of their extended family: UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Jamaica, Bahamas, Gibraltar, St Helena and more.
To many Latin Americans, family is extremely important. And the Falklands are part of a massive 120 million strong family!
Anyone would choose family over neighbours.
l regard the people(NOT the government)of the USA as part of our family also.
Dec 11th, 2013 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree Isolde. I was just including the family of countries that all exist under the Queen. Though the US is like the cousin that did extremely well for itself.
Dec 12th, 2013 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islanders are definitely not alone in the world so are not as lonesome as Aussie Sunshine likes to pretend. But then again pretending is the name of the national game in Argentina and Spain.
Even Guyana has turned its back on The Falklands/ Malvinas!! and that says it all!!
Dec 13th, 2013 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#66
Dec 13th, 2013 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Even Guyana”..... On a scale of world importance it hardly counts.
Surely you can do better than that !!
I am glad that you now agree “that says it all”. By this I assume you mean that you will stop posting childish drivel and leave the forum to the adults.
@Cuckooror
Dec 13th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the indispensable racialist sociopath input.
“@Cuckooror
Dec 14th, 2013 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the indispensable racialist sociopath input.”
It's like someone put words together in a sentence but forget they should make sense. Obviously Forgetit87 can't do two things at once, so I advise he should hold his breath when typing next time. If he blacks out it can only improve his contributions.
Forgetit87 is a dumb Brazilian.
Dec 14th, 2013 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or so he says.
l'm not questioning whether he/she is Brazilian, quite possibly is one.
But he is dumb.
(59) M_of_FI
Dec 15th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“It always strikes me the anger and hatred Argentines have towards Falkland Islanders.....”
I say...:
Did it never “striked you” that we Argentineans disliked you Anglos coming from the other side of the World to steal our territories and ressources in 1831-1833....?
Does it never “strike you” that we Argentineans dislike you Anglos still coming today from the other side of the world to steal our territories and ressources?
A lot of us Argentineans dislike the fact that you Kelpers are the spearhead and the excuse the Northern Neocolonial Anglos use to do so....
It can't be said clearer....
#71
Dec 15th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear....what a pity....never mind !
(72) Clyde15
Dec 15th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But.............................. we do mind Mr. Clyde15.
And that's why we strive to make that haughtiness as costly as possible for you Anglos.
@ 68 Forgetit87
Dec 15th, 2013 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WTF does that mean? Are you gay?
@71 Think,
Dec 15th, 2013 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did it ever strike you Think, that the land & resources that we took (“stole”, in your words) in 1831-1833 were NOT yours?
That they NEVER have been yours.?
Did it ever make you feel just that little bit guilty(no, l guess not)that you Argentines came from the other side of the world to kill, rape & steal the land you now call Argentina, from the native peoples?
Such blatent, two-faced hypocrisy, takes one's breath away.
lt can't be said clearer.....
Blatant, chère Isolde........ blatant.
Dec 15th, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#73
Dec 16th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglo ? That's news to me. I suppose you must be a dago then.
Blatant, schmatant, Think, baby.
Dec 16th, 2013 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l notice that you didn't deny the accusations that l made about you Argentines.
You know that they're true.
l take great delight in telling you that this is NOT your land.
lts OURS & we will do what we like here & its got js to do with your silly country. So keep your long crooked nose out of our affairs.
Just go away, Think, & do something constructive for a change.
@71
Dec 17th, 2013 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“we Argentineans disliked you Anglos coming from the other side of the World to steal our territories and ressources in 1831-1833....?”
The Amerindians disliked you Spanish coming from the other side of the world to steal their resources for several hundred years.
Nobody could steal from Argentina in 1831-1833 as that country was formed in 1853. (That's 18-20 years after 1831-1833).
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