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Argentina creates new Malvinas agency and names former Senator Filmus chief

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Argentina has created a new government agency under the scope of the Foreign Ministry to address issues related exclusively to the Malvinas Islands, designating former senator Daniel Filmus as its chief. The creation of the secretariat and Filmus’ appointment were published in Friday's edition of the official gazette under decree number 2251/2013. Read full article

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  • Pugol-H

    Dream on, meanwhile “jobs for the boys”.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bongo

    Another impotent quango.

    No power, no authority, no presence, no hope.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Paragon

    For Christ´s sake take it to the ICJ !! but you won't will you lol

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    Described as a “special colonial case” by the UN?? Utter rubbish. The UN hasn't described the case at all since 1988 - and will not do so again because of the “deal” that no-one admits too.

    But why a new Committee ?? Because the issue has been losing ground, not only in the world, but in Argentina too. The Referendum did more damage to Argentina's spurious claims than it would like to admit.

    Still - keeps the boys employed no? Large expense account and free travel :-)

    Argentina should remember however, that a camel is a horse designed by a Committee :-)

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troneas

    @4. actually, the UN has described the Malvinas as a special colonial case as recent as 2012. i posted the link here on a previous discussion about a month ago.

    cant be bothered to search it now but its an official UN document on decolonisation.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Which people were colonized?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    You are wrong Trousers - the last UN GA Resolution was 1988. Nothing since. The C24 is an irrelevant sub-sub-Committee of the General Assembly. It is ignored every year.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    What they going to call this new agency?

    Disney land.

    They do know the name is protected by copyright?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    UNGA Resolution 68/97 (2013) - on “Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples”

    Paragraph 7(c): calls upon the Special Committee (C24) --- “To continue to examine the political, economic and social situation in the Non-Self-Governing Territories, and to recommend, as appropriate, to the General Assembly the most suitable steps to be taken to enable the populations of those Territories to exercise their right to self-determination, including independence, in accordance with the relevant resolutions on decolonization, including resolutions on specific Territories;”

    Populations of NSGT's ....

    Anyone see any exceptions ??

    Now that's a Resolution Trousers :-)

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano

    ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ......ROFLMAO...........And..??????

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 05:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jwolf

    “Senator Filmus acknowledged that in addition to the Malvinas Islands he was also appointed Ambassador to Never -Never Land and the Klingon Empire. ”It is important that we in Argentina reach out to all pretend places' he said. 'We must show our solidarity with those who do not exist. It is the only way we can demonstrate to the world that Argentina should be taken seriously.“ The senator also called on other Latin American nations to ”reach out and touch no one“ by supporting Argentina's new trade pacts with Elysium and The land of Oz, as well. ”The Malvinas Islands are only the beginning,“ he stated proudly. ”Soon all the pretend places on Earth will proclaim Argentina as their greatest ally.“ He then sat quietly in a corner of the room, sucked his thumb, and rocked back and forth in a trance....”

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    He also thanked the Republic of Ireland for their unflinching support in the foundation of the agency.

    Whoops, no! he's already done that one! Come to think of it, has anyone found that Irish Statement yet?

    He will do well here, a liar running an agency founded on lies.

    The man was born or the job.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Biguggy

    “Malvinas Islands issue has been described by the United Nations as a special colonial case and more specifically involves a sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the United Kingdom which must be resolved through negotiations between the two sides involved”.

    I do not believe that even the C24 has said ' must be resolved through negotiations between the two sides involved', or even anything close.

    When will Argentina stop lying?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jaydub

    Sounds like an amazing non-job.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Yes I'm sure this agency will distract the masses from the facts: such as inflation increasing at a rapid rate, leaving their money worthless, the lack of power, the lack of LNG, the lack of wheat, and of course the lack of dollars.

    Face it, CFK has flogged the 'Malvinas' horse to death, and the Argentine people aren't falling for it anymore. They have more pressing concerns, regardless of whether the believe in the Malvina's myth or not. Food and power to their homes are far more important than a group of islands that they know they're not going to get EVER!

    So the Argentine government p!sses away more money on useless things instead of addressing the actual problems of Argentina.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Wonder if Alejandro Quisling will also be offered a position in the agency, or is it too late?

    All in the timing Alejandro, then again you would know all about that, timing that is, would'nt you Alejandro?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @5 Was that in the meeting of the “special argie committee on decolonisation”. This may come as a surprise but a little committee mostly composed of argie sympathisers doesn't count as “the UN”. Are you not keeping up? Let's try again. General Assembly resolutions are NON-BINDING. No-one needs to pay any attention to them!

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Dumping ground for failed RG politicos - Falklands desk at the RG FO! Non-job with no hope, and no possibility whatsoever of success.

    Responsibility for creating and locating Malvinas posters, adverts and propaganda. Spreading lies to schoolchildren. Creating new ideas for Gollum to hiss (hes run out!) Oh, and making coffee...

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    Has the C24 special committee achieved anything in the last 30 years ?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @19
    Defineately, spending money, and claiming expences. Apart from that , nothing.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    No, I think we can confidently predict exactly the same for the next 30 years and probably longer.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • saphira

    'Under the scope of the Foreign Ministry' that must mean that they recognise the Falklands as being Foreign otherwise the Goverment body should surely have been an internal one ?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    I think Senator Filmus should include in his “must read” file:

    http://www.falklandshistory.org/historia-falsa.pdf

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    That will be former Senator Filmus, his new title is Jobsworth Filmus!

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    Im pleased. Argieland spdnds more money they dont have.

    Meanwhile Britain will make £trillions.

    More big delicious milotary assets coming soon!

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Hardly reads like a vote of confidence in Timerman. I bet he's going to be delighted to have former Senator Fibmuch sticking his oar in.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    I suppose Filmus will be taking the usual 10%?

    But will the girls agree to the new arrangement?

    http://www.themalvinas.com/

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    where's the Malvinas?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @ 28 They're in Quebec

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @29 of course silly me

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    such a meaningless agency , I would of thought the argentine govt would have best served their people by maybe an agency to “FIX” its inflation......
    ......Oh wait they do INDEC

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Reads just like my school report, “ Must try harder ”

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    What tosh. An agency to perpetuate a myth
    What else will it pursue? The Loch Ness Monster or maybe The Man in the Moon... or perhaps CKF's brain. Despicable bunch

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I suspect that the next post for Filmus will be Foreign Minister the way Gollum is going.

    Give it six months.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @5

    “ actually, the UN has described the Malvinas as a special colonial case as recent as 2012. i posted the link here on a previous discussion about a month ago.

    cant be bothered to search it now but its an official UN document on decolonisation.”

    Let me assist you.

    see @9 Lord Ton

    ”UNGA Resolution 68/97 (2013) - on “Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples”

    Paragraph 7(c): calls upon the Special Committee (C24) --- “To continue to examine the political, economic and social situation in the Non-Self-Governing Territories, and to recommend, as appropriate, to the General Assembly the most suitable steps to be taken to enable the populations of those Territories to exercise their right to self-determination, including independence, in accordance with the relevant resolutions on decolonization, including resolutions on specific Territories;”

    Populations of NSGT's ....

    Anyone see any exceptions ??“

    So, Troneas perhaps you could explain why in the above mentioned resolution it does not mention ”with the exception of the Falkland Islands.”?????????????????????

    Why isn't Filmus suggesting going to the ICJ?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Christina is a Crunt

    11 jwolf (#)
    well written...lol.....

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    let me speak to all the malvanistas, ie, stink ,TTT etc,,(and all those that DONT live in renweeger) oops that's all of them. don't talk shite, if you cant talk the truth shut the fuck up, you are embarrassing yourselves

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Oder 1001

    Troneas
    General Assembly resolutions are NON-BINDING. No-one needs to pay any attention to them!

    in 1982 Argentina ignored the expressed wish of the UN and invaded the islands in breach of the resolution no amount of moral indignation from Argentina can mask the treacherous behaviour not only against the islanders but the UN its Charter and humanity, the UN court ICJ is available you like all your politicians know as the Junta knew you could not win in a court of law
    so with bravado, threat , intimidation you Latino`s continue the only course you know from the time your countries became independent, violence and threat. The world does not take you seriously all this barking “a wolf without teeth” were the best you can offer is a howl, become clever take the Brits to court the truth will emerge but you will not like it!

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troneas

    @38. are you for real?

    the US and the UK invaded Iraq in 2003 in breach of the security council's resolutions. what is that if not “treacherous behaviour” against the UN charter, humanity, the UN, etc, etc, etc.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • It's a TrOLL Road

    When it comes to the Malvinas obsession, I have to my writhing horror agree with the Anglos. It is an obsession of the government of Argentina, all th agencies, all the talk, all the focus, all the constant obstreperous clangor.

    I don't like obsessions, I find them weak and stultifying.

    Argentina should treat the Falklands like it treats the UK, as the unimportant country that it is (from Argentina's point of view, since it is: we don't depend on the UK for anything in terms of trade, economics, culture, military, or fill in the blank). The best way to elicit a reaction is non-reaction.

    That is something argie poiticians just cannot comprehend they are too self-absorbed and moronic.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Minister for Intrigue and Propaganda.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #40
    On this forum, I think we all make the assumption-wrongly-that the populations of both our countries place the Falklands as the most important issue affecting our lives and well being.
    I would imagine that the average Brit. is totally indifferent to Argentina and vice versa. My generation remember the 1982 war but very few of the current generation have a clue about it. To them Argentina plays an unimportant part in their lives. I would guess that the only Argentinean they could name is Maradona.
    You personally wish nothing to do with the UK, Europe or the rest of the world.. Fine, that is your prerogative.

    As to these forums, they are not designed for intelligent informed debate but as a means of expressing prejudices and extreme views whilst hiding behind anonymity. You only need to look at twitter or facebook to see this in action.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @39 Troneas
    The UK has breached no UN resolutions. You are a fountain of mis-information.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @24 Is that a name? I thought it was an instruction. As in “Film us showing disrespect by dancing around on the steps of a British war memorial located on British soil maintained by the Royal Navy in 1914 while argieland sat with its thumb up it's arse pretending to be neutral”. Here's a thought. If argies reckon the Falklands were theirs, why didn't they get out there and defend them in 1914?
    @39 Try UN Security Council resolution 1441 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_1441 Try this bit “this resolution does not constrain any Member State from acting to defend itself against the threat posed by Iraq or to enforce relevant United Nations resolutions and protect world peace and security”. Do also try to READ it all. In summation, Saddam was trying to be “clever”. Unfortunately, he was about as “clever” as CFK. Your “understanding” of situations in the world is about as mature as your “understanding” of your “country”. In fact, argieland isn't far off being a South American Iraq.
    @40 Fine. Can we have the aid we gave you back? Could you also repay the money you owe us? Please.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • It's a TrOLL Road

    @44

    I thought 78 million was “chump change” to you super mighty northern nations. And you are begging for that?
    @42

    I agree actually. We should just ignore Europe. Well, we sort of are now, except when filing rightful complaints at the WTO, which make Euros mad to no end. Euros believe they are the only one allowed double standards.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @45
    I agree with your statement that Argentina should ignore Europe, that means you don't want IMF money, I suppose. Good luck with that , where do you think you are going to get finance, oh ok China. The only one with double standards is Argentina.In 1851 General ROSAS offered to relinquish any territorial claims in return for relief of debts owed to BARINGS Bank in the City of London. The British Government refused the offer. It was because there was no territory to claim. Still owe us from 1851, still not paid debts to date.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Oder 1001

    39 Troneas (#)

    Yes I am for real, there was no treachery involved in the US/UK attacking Iraq unlike the Falklands there was no surprise attack, so that you understand the difference, the Falklands were attacked by 12000 thousand soldiers to subject 2000 sheep farmers and without warnning, Iraqi`s had a standing army of over 250 000 hardly compares to treachery they had the chance to prevent it war and like the Junta acted with bravado and were attack for it , you should really find out about these things if you intend to comment on them.

    United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441 is a United Nations Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by the United Nations Security Council on 8 November 2002, offering Iraq under Saddam Hussein “a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations” that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284).

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @45 Thanks for admitting your debt. Here in the UK we have a saying “Look after the pennies”. Give us OUR pennies!

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Lovely picture of the crew of HMS Protector in The Times this morning, out on the ice having an early Christmas dinner. They will be out on patrol on Christmas day. Remember Endurance and her role in defeating the odious Asiz when Argentina tried to invade South Georgia. We must remember that all the islands are gems to be protected from Gollum and the Orcs who are aching to colonise them against the will of the inhabitants. Britain remains vigilant.

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @49
    I assume you mean the odious 'Astiz'.
    Not only was he odious he was also a coward. He was quite happy bumping off priests, nuns and children but having led a select group of Marines who were ‘sworn to die’ in defence of South Georgia, when the time came for them to put their lives where their mouths were, they surrendered without firing a shot.

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Like that other paragon of Argentine military manhood, Patricio Dowling.

    Don't think that scumbag did much fighting either!

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @51
    Don't think many of them did much fighting, having said that I did have the opportuneaty to serve alonside the Gurkas, and to be honest I would not like to be on the opposing side. My uncle in ww2 served in the army and the gurkas were asked to patrol the perimeter fence because a lot of equipment was being stolen. Needless to say in the morning 3 severed heads were strung on the barbed wire, no more thefts were recorded after that.

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I can just imagine them sitting in their holes on Mount William, watching the other mountains around them being captured by the Para, The Marines, The Scots Guards. Then the penny drops, they are the only position left and the Gurkhas are the only Battalion the Brits have not yet committed to battle!
    Whoops.

    Must have scared them shitless, no wonder they legged it.

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @53
    If my opinion counts for anything they ( the Gurkas) are the dogs bollocks ( pardon the expression )

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    But do you remember video when the Ghurkhas (MoD spelling) were told that they would not be deployed against The Cowards of the Continent.

    Talk about pissed off!

    This is what ONE Ghurkha did to the Taliban:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-LRxSl9aw

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    As I understood at the time, if they draw their Kukri ( the knife that is part of the uniform )even for cleaning they are honour bound to draw blood, be it theirs or their enemies

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Dr. Jeorbbels

    Another highly paid non-job. Save the money and give it to the poor, or give the poor a pay rise for attending CFK rallies!

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @51

    In the late 90's Dowling asked the Irish government to grant him political asylum because of the harassment he was receiving in Argentina.
    Guess what the answer was??

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Indeed, this is not putting the cart before the horses!

    Philippe

    Dec 25th, 2013 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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