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Struggle to end with 'shreds of colonialism' (Malvinas) must continue, said Mujica

Saturday, December 21st 2013 - 05:56 UTC
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Uruguayan president Jose Mujica thanked Senator Luis Rosadilla for the gesture of having volunteered to join Argentine forces back in 1982 when the Malvinas conflict broke out and said the struggle for Latin American territory continues and an end to shreds of colonialism is 'a commitment with a motherland still to be constructed and waiting'. Read full article

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  • Lord Ton

    This old socialist is on his last legs - only the truth survives :-)

    http://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/falklands-history18.pdf

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    More lack of judgement by this ancient rebel!

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nololly

    Ridiculous, Argentina are the colonialists.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Well lads, you can see what the problems are here in Uruguay.

    The old commie bastard, shortly to leave the presidency, cannot resist a gibe at the Brits.

    I was taken in for a short while with what he said after he took the presidency and then I realised what a load of crap it was and all he was doing was wasting the fairly good economy that Vasquez had built up.

    The Social Inclusion crap: just like The Cunt Brown, Pepe thinks The Poor are hard done to. Now nobody objects to helping those who cannot work by reason of disability or ill health, but we have MANY here who have never worked in their lives who are getting a payment. The taxes of the working people mean that in some cases the workers effectively get less than the spongers.

    Stevies mom and dad are I suspect now getting a pension from my taxes even though they have been exiled for many years and of course their son does not pay taxes here. This is the legacy of the Tupamaros: cretins to the last man (and woman).

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    “The struggle of Latin Americans for their territories”

    Amerindians must not know if they should laugh or cry.

    “a motherland still to be constructed ”

    and there we have the 21st century imperialist.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LuisM

    If we delve on historical books, we will find that almost every European new colony (or conquest in fact) was supported by “claims”. Since the middle ages, most European wars begun by setting claims (many were falsifications.)
    Argentina is just imitating this behavior, trying to become a ¨colonial power¨of its own. A pre XIX century style one.
    The Falklands inhabitants must be aware of that any political status change of the islands must be done with they consent. They should perhaps denounce (more) the Buenos Aires intent of spoiling the Kelpers rights to grab the oil.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Comrade Mujica knows all about Argentinian colonialism in Martin Garcia Island.

    Philippe

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ron_57

    The british islanders have the islands for 189 years for nothing!
    Such a slum place!

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 8 ron_57

    Jesus (as an atheist) that’s a bloody low octane rating you have there!

    What does it fuel, a miniature car because normal sized ones won’t operate on 57?

    I bet you are an argie and I claim my AR Pesos 10! That will no doubt confuse the poor bastard.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faulconbridge

    Has President Mujica been celebrating Uruguay'e legalisation of cannabis consumption too well or has this been translated even more badly than usual?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malicious bloke

    Yep, the last shreds of colonialism must end alright. All the horribly pikey hispanic types in south america should up sticks and bog off back to southern europe, leaving south america to the amerindians.

    The Falkland Islanders, however, their homes not being the product of the subjugation of any indigenous population, can stay right where they are.

    LATIN AMERICAN COLONIALISTS GO HOME!

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    South America-where only someone who offered to fight for Argentina, but didn't actually go, could be given a bravery award.

    “We all know you are a great defender of the Argentine Malvinas issue; we congratulate you on that determination, on that struggle to end with the shreds of colonialism in our continent” added the Uruguayan president.”

    So you want colonialist Argentina out of South America?

    Make your mind up.

    Did Pepe volunteer to fight for Argentina, but not actually turn up for the gig?

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Its just so comical, the guy didn't actually do anything and in the their desperation to keep the myth alive they gave him a medal.

    They just have no shame, cowards and losers swapping medals - pathetic!

    Especially when they sent wholly untrained teenagers, starving an freezing and ill-equipped to fight and these wankers getting medals for doing fook all. Its despicable. Not only did they send them there, they left them there for months after the war with no food or proper clothes and the British soldiers and Falkland islanders fed them and protected them from the elements because they were abandoned by their own people.

    I am actually ashamed for them.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 13 Britworker

    Excellent post.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Christina is a Crunt

    @14 -agreed.

    They also left there dead. no doubt to use them in a later “claim”.

    Dec 21st, 2013 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Yes: forcibly take over the Falklands, eject the citizens or force them to obey imposed laws, and then claim them in the name of Socialism, or Democracy, or, what; certainly not Colonialism.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mr Ed

    Let us not forget that this man belonged to a murderous Communist guerilla group amongst the crimes of which were 42 years ago yesterday, the murder of a Uruguayan peasant Pascasio Báez, who having been kidnapped after stumbling across an arms cache, and held for around 2 months, was executed by them by a lethal injection of barbiturates. Link to a Uruguayan website giving details in Spanish.

    http://historico.elpais.com.uy/090423/predit-412651/editorial/historia-de-pascasio-baez/

    This man Mujica is nothing but vermin, as are those who voted for him.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Mr Ed
    Yes, that's the one. Good find, even if it's El Pais...
    Google on, old man, because Pepe was in jail at the time of the incident...
    You nabos really should read up on LA history before commenting, the amount of idiocy that comes out of your fingertips is quite impressive...

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mr Ed

    Oh Stevie, nowhere did I say that Mujica was responsible, but this was his group. You do not deny the truth of this incident, and you do not seem to condemn the murder of an innocent peasant, here's an opportunity for you to do so. As Mujica said, his words quoted here 'while there is life, the struggle will continue, as so will hope'. No life, a pointless struggle, no hope, and there is no hope for Uruguay or Argentina until they stop following the politics of aggression, resentment and chauvimism and learn to join the club of civilised societies.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Ed, I condemned it 2 days ago... You really need to keep up...

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @8 323 years actually, mo ron.
    @15 So can we go back to digging the crud up and dropping the body bags over Buenos Aires? Make a change from all that contaminated beef!
    @18,20 Well known that crims can issue execution orders from “inside”. What I don't understand is, if he was confined at the bottom of a well, why didn't someone fill it up? Could have got rid of a wanker 35 years ago.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Dear Mr. Mujica,

    take a deep breath and realize that CFK and Timerman have no grounds for making such remarks as, 'they have no rights' 'they are just squatters' against the Falkland Islanders.

    Of course, if you so wish, you can associate yourself with such remarks but this will only make you look foolish as you will be disassociating yourself with the inalienable right to self-determination that the Falkland Islanders possess.
    This is confirmed by the UN and UN ICJ in their Advisory Opinions of 1971 and 1975 which stated:

    'Furthermore, the subsequent development of International Law in regards to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them.'

    Paragraph 52 refers: www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/53/5595.pdf

    Furthermore, the problem inherited in the Argentinian view - that aliens who have settled in the Falklands have no right to self-determination sets a dangerous precedent as when it is carried out to a logical conclusion it would be a basis for driving the people of a country, specifically Uruguay and most of Latin America, out of places that they now occupy.

    Mr. Mujica, I strongly advise you to disassociate yourself from supporting the Argentine view before it is too late...

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 22 Brit Bob

    It's already too late for Mujica. Nobody I know will vote for the Broad Front in the coming elections.

    But there again I only know about 40 people and those mostly business people (with brains).

    I don't know any lazy bastards on the Social Inclusion programme but a lot of my friends do.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LuisM

    @18 Please check the web yourself! Mujica was convicted but was no a prison break on September 1971. The crime, the assassination of Báez, was on December 1971. As far as we know, while unlikely (he would most likely miss the shot or other similar, epic, error), he could have do it.

    As for “nabo”, it´s almost common that Mujica told us Uruguayan as “nabos”... “No seas nabo!” (don´t be a turnip! = fool) seems to be one of his preferred comments. It´s is nos surprising then he wished his voters: “Feliz Nabidad!”

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    JJajaja! ... Was not that Uruguay was a village friend, twinned with the islands? How often do you now attack Mujica, not come to his defense? I remember while Mujica had stated that no one would share gasping to the islands, the islanders came here to praise him, praise him talking. Anyone who shares the views of the islanders, is right and someone is respectable .. But if you change and other islanders reviewer is wrong, then get to throw an awful lot of insults and ill wishes against that person .. As always, AngloSaxons hypocrites ..!

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    @25 XAVIERV

    Por favor, ¡traduzca! ¡No se entiende nada!

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    Does Uruguay wasn't a friend people, brother with the islands? How many times those now attack Mujica, came in his defense? I remember the time that Mujica had stated that, don't share a boqueo to the islands, here came all the islanders to praise him, talking about the praises of him. Any person who shares the views of the islanders, is right and it's a respectable guy. But if it changes and does different to the islanders is wrong, then they start to launch an awful lot of insults and bad will against that person. As usual, hypocritical, Anglo Saxons.! Excuse my poor English

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    Oh yes, let's replace a collegial devolving endgame between London and Stanley that's looking like it will likely eventually result into an independent commonwealth state in line with what C24 has on paper as their official mandate with an involuntary (and that's speaking in the most euphemistic terms) fascist goose-stepping occupation and annexation that nakedly violates the human rights of the islanders, the UN charter, C24 mandate and UNGA resolutions the fraudsters in Buenos Aires claim to hide behind to anyone too stupid and gullible to believe them. And we'll do it in the name of “anti-colonialism.” Ah, those fascists and their doublespeak.

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ron_57

    @21
    ...323 years?....Worst yet!
    Nothing to show.
    Take a look at their houses, people, clothes, etc.
    No money no class keep the islands in a british arse!

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @29

    “Nothing to show.
    Take a look at their houses, people, clothes, etc.”

    Are you saying they haven't changed since 1828?

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    @29 hi sussie

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El capitano

    Same ol shit...just a different pile..

    Dec 22nd, 2013 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LuisM

    @25 XAVIERV
    Not sure what is your point. Everyone has the right to change his mind, but not ever 48h, and then again.

    You seems to support Mujica, you will surely appreciate his xmas wishes. “Feliz Nabidad!”

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @Ron57:

    Falkland Slums? - What like this?

    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/10/07/half-a-million-families-live-in-buenos-aires-slums-and-keep-expanding-vertically-and-horizontally

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Daft person to be running a country. As a communist he is supposed to be aware that everyone is equal, and has human rights - he obviously doesnt and supports Argentine colonialism!
    Lovely picture of the crew of HMS Protector in The Times this morning, out on the ice having an early Christmas dinner. They will be out on patrol on Christmas day. Remember Endurance and her role in defeating the odious Asiz when Argentina tried to invade South Georgia. We must remember that all the islands are gems to be protected from Gollum and the Orcs who are aching to colonise them against the will of the inhabitants. Britain remains vigilant..

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @25, 27 “JJajaja!” How terribly “latino”. Things have moved on. The trouble with “JJajaja!” is that it sounds like a Nazi with a stutter. Didn't Nazi war crims “flee” to Uruguay as well? Might be best if you crawled back in your hole and pulled it in after you. With far more history behind us, we can tell you that if you tie a string to a bell and your big toe, we'll be able to tell when you're dead. You wouldn't cheat, would you?
    @29 Could you come back when you have a brain? The next ten thousand years will be SO peaceful.

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ron_57

    @34
    Only 3,000 residents suffering cold weather and poverty indicates such islands don't worth a sh*t!

    Dec 23rd, 2013 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    President Mujica is well known for his off-the-cuff erratic remarks. In a few days he may well be saying just the opposite.

    Dec 24th, 2013 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    @ 27 XAVIER

    ¡Siento mucho pero aun no se entiende!

    Dec 24th, 2013 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Actually the Argentine politician who turned down the “Oxford” honour showed more dignity and patriotism than Rosadilla, who accepted this decoration from the Argentine government that has put many Uruguayans out of work.

    Dec 24th, 2013 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @37;
    You have a case of cognitive dissonance.

    It's a phycological condition.

    'sour grapes'

    Your English needs work too. 'Dont worth a Sh*t!“ should read 'Aren't worth a Sh*t!”

    Dec 24th, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ron_57

    @41
    You are a case of ignorance.

    Take a look of the islands in the internet.

    There is nothing that worth a sh*t!

    Dec 24th, 2013 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    take it to the ICJ

    or bring it on..

    cos ya certainly cant back it up,

    even with a four inch rocket..lol

    Dec 24th, 2013 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @42

    Try getting off your butt and visiting-there's plenty there-if you look-it's ironic calling someone else ignorant, when you take a representation off the internet to demonstrate the entire Falklands-proving your own ignorance.

    Dec 24th, 2013 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    42
    That's a girl Sussie. Keep it up. We couldn't dream up such an ignoramus as you.

    44 Pete Bog
    Nice one Pete but you're wasting your time on that crackpot. What Sussie is the product of I'm not quite sure but it's pathetic really.

    I have to say I was hoping that we would have had a message from DoD before he went down to the Dover branch for the Christmas Eve festivities. It would have ben nice to hear something about how the Falkland Islanders in his day were obedient and seen and not heard.

    Merry Christmas to all of you; even the deadbeats.

    Dec 24th, 2013 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @42;
    How can I be a case of ignorance?

    You are the one who desperately wants them.

    You.

    Dec 25th, 2013 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    From all the old comrades at RBL Dover, especially from Bernard and myself, a heartfelt Christmas Day Greeting to all our fellow loyal and grateful British Citizens, with or without Falkland Islander status, resident on the Falkland Islands. I would post more but I'm off to swim around the Cruise Ships moored in the harbour.

    Dec 25th, 2013 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @45

    Joe-yes I am wasting my time-I am as guilty as the Malvanistas as driving home the same scratched record remarks-but I probably will keep going to their repeated lies with my repeated truths (having actually lived in the Islands some years ago).

    The ignorance these deadbeats show to the islands probably demonstrates that when they had the chance to move to the Falklands they didn't because the conditions just weren't for them-and stating the 'bleedin obvious' it's no surprise that Britons emigrated to the Islands as they are the same latitude South as the UK is North.

    Regardless of the lack of 'hotels' I hope now that I am financially able to visit the Islands, to come next December/January and see some of the things I missed last time around.

    Hope the summer will be as hot as when I was a pom. (Oh dear, I forgot-the Falklands ' never' gets temperatures of 30 0c plus-I must have been dreaming............

    Hope you are having a warm Xmas Joe (envious).

    Dec 25th, 2013 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @48, Well every blue moon we get a curious baseline Argentine like CD (as opposed to a frothy racist piece of brownshirt-bait (Tobi), the average fascist Malvanista (take your pick), uh... Suzie..., and useless idiots like Axel), who get a good babyshake and realize that maybe the whole world doesn't believe, let alone have heard the lies they've been told since childhood and what neutral outsiders actually see when their representatives run around like unrepentant but incompetent skinheads seig-heiling over how their analog to Poland is really theirs and how they won't be whole unless they can stand on some peoples necks who keep saying “NO!” to them every time they are asked.

    Dec 26th, 2013 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ron_57

    @46
    Keep the islands in a british arse=sh*t!

    Dec 27th, 2013 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #50
    OK so you think the islands are rubbish, so explain why your government are SO DESPERATE to get their hands on them.
    Please reply in English in some intelligible manner.

    Dec 28th, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    November 2013 South Georgia News and Events:

    - New Two-Year Fishing Licences
    - South Georgia Magistrate Sworn In At Government House
    - Much Achieved In South Georgia In 2013
    - Acceptable Level Of Non-Target Mortality
    - Fishing and Shipping News
    - HMS Protector On Patrol
    - Grey-headed Albatross Added To The Endangered Species List
    - Animator In SG
    - Lucky Chick
    - First Sight – Will Life For Vagrant Ducks Be Rosy?
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    - Adventure Comes From Uncertainty On The Shackleton Traverse
    - Church Centenary - Christmas Memories
    - Bird Island Diary
    - South Georgia Snippets
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    South Georgia Newsletter, November 2013: http://www.sgisland.gs

    Dec 29th, 2013 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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