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Falklands looks to South America and Scotland to service its oil industry development
Successful trade missions to Uruguay and Chile and the growing support and know-how links with Scotland for the development of the Falkland Islands oil and gas industry were mentioned as some of the 2013 highlights by Roger Spink, president of the Falklands Chamber of Commerce in his Christmas speech. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGreat move, Islanders.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Distanciating yourselves from the English is an excellent approach!!
Rgenweener need not apply.............what's Distanciating?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Stevie,Just like your disgusting leader your bitter and twistedness will fail.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My bad slatzzz
Jan 05th, 2014 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's distancing... I keep overestimating your wits....
Stevie @ 1 and 4
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are clutching straws. We aren't distancing ourselves from England. Why would we? The two commerce links described in the article make sense for obvious reasons.
Our link with your country, Uruguay, goes back over a hundred years and is going through a period of growth at present and will continue to do so as we get busier. Your Government's public statements of solidarity with Argentina over the Falklands are nothing but lip service to the bullying regime of CFK. In reality sensible businessmen in SA see opportunities to support our growing hydrocarbons industry no differently than they would see any other opportunity in SA or elsewhere in the world. The fact is that your Government is well aware of the developing links and business and, at the very least, are ignoring it but more likely are helping to facilitate it. Business is business and money is money.
As for Scotland; well your statement that we are distancing ourselves from England is just plain stupid. Scotland has 40+ years of North Sea oil development expertise. Simple as that. It's nothing to do with choosing Scotland over England.
I've read recently that you support the islands- you even told me that yourself- but that you reject the British being in the South Atlantic. Well guess what; I am an islander and I am British and that's the way I wish and plan to remain. Although I can't speak for them I'm not aware of any islanders who don't see themselves that way also.
it seems the British businessmen did not read the statements of UNASUR signed by Argentina, Bolivia, Brasil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Paraguay, Perú, Suriname, Uruguay and Venezuela.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas, as a British colony, are totally isolated here in Latin America, and it will remain so.
http://www.unasursg.org/uploads/4e/8c/4e8c1167f3ed82beefb3ba9c24a7a46a/Declaracion-Malvinas-marzo-2012.pdf
Dog that barks does not bite.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Joe
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no issues with you, you are not part of the lot.
But you can't impose a military force aiming their guns at our continent, it's not within your rights. Just as it's not within anyones right to point guns at your islands.
We had a common enemy in Galtieri. He was the same scum as Pinochet and our own Pacheco Areco and Bordaberry. He invaded your homes as they all invaded ours. They killed, raped, tortured, kidnapped, stole.... and sent the kids of the opposition to fight for your islands.
They stole children and had them grow up in their own fascist environments.
They played russian roulette with teenage students and applied electricity on different body parts.
You have every right to feel pride and I'm sure you have achieved a lot to be proud about.
So has the rest of South America.
One big achievement is to have gotten rid of the fascists.
Now you use them as an excuse to point more weapons at the continent.
As I said, I have no issues with you, but if you discard the fact that no one in South America wants Britain militarizing the zone as “lip service”, why should your concern matter?
If you can't find the decency to listen to the opinion of a whole continent, why should we listen to yours?
Thank you Stevie. Your words are my words.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 we will see, don't hold your breathe though because when the oil starts pumping, I'll bet you right now half those countries will jump ship and bite the hands off the Falklands to be involved especially Chile and Uruguay. Rgenweener will be in a state of revolt by then anyway
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No oil will be pumped without the support of UNASUL. The cost of production will be feasible.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are the FALKLANDS in UNASUL?
They are? Or not? Tell me.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Depends entirely on which side you are on. Argentina claims the FALKLANDS therefore Argentina being a member of UNASUL, I would say they are. But and a big But, The FALKLANDS are governed by the Government of the FALKLANDS are they are not members of UNASUL. YOU DECIDE
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's a middle ground?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Stevie and Brasieliro: spot on.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0golfcronie, the Flaklands are not in UNASUR
@16
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know that . They are BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY, and proud of it.
British colony you mean?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 011 Brasileiro Are you retarded?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say the stupidest things with no facts and then agree with yourself.
Good gracious you need an education.
It appears to me that Stevie, Paul Cedrón, brasileiro et al - trolls of the finest degree - are not able to get their facts right. Have they all been at a liquid lunch today?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Patagonia, Argentine colony, certainly was after 1850
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The FALKLANDERS have decided their fate, they wish to remain British, who can blame them.
@10. They will jump ship because of a tiny oil well of low quality?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have the opportunity of working in Vaca Muerta, one of the biggest shale oil fields in the world.
Why will they jump ship?
http://phys.org/news/2013-10-shale-oil-boom-fuel-argentina.html
22. That statement is based on pure fantasy. If the majors wanted to invest in Argentine they'd have already been doing so.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They (like every investor) are waiting for CFK to be removed from power and a sane person put in charge.
My guess it will be the military.
You won't see any serious FDI in the next decade.
I'm totally against kirchner and our current government. they have been the worst no doubts.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0now that has nothing to do with the agreements to work in the 3rd biggest shale oil field in the world.
no fantasies there. they are already investing.
http://www.26noticias.com.ar/ypf-y-chevron-firmaron-un-multimillonario-acuerdo-de-inversion-en-vaca-muerta-174361.html
http://www.26noticias.com.ar/ypf-y-chevron-firmaron-un-multimillonario-acuerdo-de-inversion-en-vaca-muerta-174361.html
http://www.26noticias.com.ar/ypf-y-chevron-firmaron-un-multimillonario-acuerdo-de-inversion-en-vaca-muerta-174361.html
http://www.26noticias.com.ar/ypf-y-chevron-firmaron-un-multimillonario-acuerdo-de-inversion-en-vaca-muerta-174361.html
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Jan 05th, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 “The FALKLANDERS have decided their fate, they wish to remain British, who can blame them.”
Jan 05th, 2014 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they want to be british, that's fine.
now latin americans don't want to have anything to do with the islanders.
who can blame them?
Stupid misleading article....
Jan 05th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the subsequent event in Aberdeen, has encouraged the interest of Aberdeen Oil Service Companies in doing business with Falkland Companies and I am sure will result in profitable JV’s and opportunities for all in servicing Oil Developments in the coming years.”
http://www.subsea.org/company/allbycity.asp?qcity=Aberdeen
...that is a list of Aberdeen Oil Service Companies...
Do you think just because they are based in Aberdeen it makes them Scottish companies.....Doh!...
The Falklands are not a member of UNASUR, nor could be, as it is the Union of South American Nations
Jan 05th, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as the falklands are a British Overseas Territory and part of the EU, why would it want to be part of it?
The main difference between the Falklands and Argentina is investment. Nations and companies are willing to invest in the Falklands is due to trust. No one trusts Argentina anymore, as they never honour agreements, whereas the Falklands are peaceful and have high honour.
dont cry argentina
Those so called investments are pure blackmail payments.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plus they're acdrop in the ocean of what's needed.
As I said nothing significant will happen until the is are gone.
Probably a generation.
thats sour grapes
Jan 05th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has a huge oil deposit in dead cow but no one really trust the governent to invest.
Not even the current power companies trust the government to invest more, and all CFK can do is levy fines.
It would be better if she ran away like her german ancestors did in 1945
Stevie
Jan 05th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We do not “point guns at your continent” another blatant lie from these boards biggest fantasist.
We could point missiles at your continent, should we wish to, and would not have to leave the British Isles to do so. However, there is currently no need.
Tell me, retard Steve, does Uruguay have a defence force? Does Argentina have a defence force? Does Brazil? Does practically every nation on earth?
The Falklands are too small to have a defence force...they are only 3000 strong. They have a neighbour who insults them, abuses them, claims their homes, and in living memory used them as a human shield and planted unmapped minefields on their land.
The Falkland Islanders wish for the British to provide their DEFENCE.
Not in 200 years has there been a British gun pointed at “your continent”, you complete moron.
Thread after thread, comment after comment, you make yourself more ridiculous.
Not only does you continent deny the Falklanders the right to exist, you now wish to deny them the right to defend themselves, ok Stevie, when every single military unit is disbanded in South America, every warship, every tank, every helicopter and warplane destroyed....and every other South American country is defenceless, the Falklands will follow suit.
Until then they will maintain a defence force, just as Uruguay, chile, Argentina does.
If South America is so peaceful...why do you all have militaries?
Monkey, I got this child friendly laptop...
Jan 05th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All I can see of your posts is “Stevie... #¤&%¤#¤, Britain...## ¤¤%¤¤#&¤, English...#, #¤%#% Uruguay!! ##¤, #¤#¤%#!!!”
the fact is that britain, including the malvinas - falklands, are not an interesting market for unasur and/ or mercosur, and reciprocally.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so none of these countries will risk the unasur agreement because of a pair of little oil wells.
not even chile, with bachelet in charge.
i am against of breaking relations with any country, but in this case it would be the most honest thing to do.
apparently the British are STILL giving Argentina 2 million in aid,
Jan 05th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and 7 million as part of a bigger package from the IMF,
still,
you hate us, yet still put your hand out at breakfast , dinner and tea time ..lol
I keep reading the same comment over and over again that no one on the SA continent wants to have anything to do with the Falklands....OK, so what's the downside to that? What exactly does anyone in SA have to offer the Falklands anyway?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 08 Supa Tupa
Jan 05th, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“One big achievement is to have gotten rid of the fascists.
Now you use them as an excuse to point more weapons at the continent.”
“ the fascists” - by that you must mean, CFK 's Dictatorship.
Not that we are pointing any weapons at you.
BTW, how is your new rocket program going, the one that “will revitalise the honour of the Argentine air farce”?
8 Stevie
Jan 05th, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say you have no issue with us but then you object to us having defence capabilities. Does your country have defence capabilities?
People on here keep saying SA companies will have nothing to do with us. WILL! Too late boys, they already are having lots to do with us and the links are growing and strengthening. Uruguayan Government authorities have actively facilitated those links in recent weeks and months and plan to do so more in the future.
“apparently the British are STILL giving Argentina 2 million in aid,”
Jan 05th, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol. where did you get that? from the daily telegraph?
and none here hates the uk. just their governments (thatcher, blair, cameron, you name the rest).
they were not exactly a blessing for the rest of the world, no?.
Didn't Argentina set a deadline of eoy with repsol ? I guess that didn't work.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surprise surprise
Joe
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguayan defence capabilities? Defend us against what? An invading force?
No, we have no such capabilities. But the people tends to take care of that...
We send our super troopers to Haiti, and now we have to defend ourselves against their lack of morals...
Uruguay has no armed forces? You sure about that?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Military_of_Uruguay.html
Your last President thought Argentina was going to invade and asked the USA for help. Or don't you remember?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wouldn't it be hilarious if the inept corrupt management of the k dynasty brought back military rule?
Yeah it would
Did I say that?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm quite sure I said we have no capabilities to defend ourselves against an invading force... shouldn't that be the Bolivian navy, that is...
@42 again, i am totally against the kirchners and i am not going to defend them, but saying that they wanted to invade (lol) the islands, is simply nonsense.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0how could argentina invade the islands? the armed forces are practically dismantled, luckily.
so it is more a problem of british paranoia.
not by chance britain sends warships everywhere.
and then they ask why they are not too appreciated in the rest of the world?
funny
Invade Uruguay you dolt. It was over Botnia.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0K are scumbag dictators and they'll get all the deserve in the end.
yanqui
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina invading Uruguay only happens in your dreams.
I think you were involved in some proper tango drama...
Think of it like this.
It could've been anyone...
invade uruguay?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are even more imbecille than i thought.
what can you expect from a kelper / briton nicknamed “yankeeboy”?
Hahaha
Jan 05th, 2014 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, he is a yanqui. A tourist.
Listen to him :)
a yankee tourist? lol
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he doesn't even know where uruguay and argentina are located, then.
and he insists in opining?
@44
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's military is not “dismantled”. It is certainly weaker than it was in 1982, but the question is, does it have the capacity to invade, if the defences of the islands were at the same level now as they were in 1982? Answer: yes.
The next question is, would the K's be krazy enough to try it? Answer: on present evidence, nobody sane would rule it out.
And since we don't want to have to go to the trouble of sending another task force to the other side of the world, we have sufficient defences in place to make sure that isn't necessary.
I'm quite flattered myself, that the entire continent of South America is apparently terrified by the British Death Star with all its 1500 men, but I do wish Timerman would make up his mind whether he's scared or not. One minute he's at the UN with his keens all a'knocking, and the next he's puffing his chest out and strutting about like Foghorn Leghorn. A person unfamiliar with the logic of the Malvinanverse could easily get confused.
Stevie
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've only had a few exchanges with you on MP and on each occasion you have deflected my points, avoided answering my questions sensibly and generally gone off on obscure tangents.
Let me try another question:
If there were no British military forces based in the Falklands do you honestly believe that Argentina would not send some sort of force (military or otherwise) and attempt to take control of the islands?
He has a degree in opinions. He travels the world with his crystal ball and he predicts things. Like defaults, power shortage, Wind speed, crop output and such in Argentina.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's a true Wonder for the country and a loss for USA, imagine what he could've done for the school shootouts, Katrina and her gang and trains blowing up...
But no, in his solidarity, he uses his skills on Argentina.
According to him, we are now entering the 4th year consecutive Argetinean collapse.
And the soy crop in 2016 seems to dry out.
He also has a job.
Stevie, I've done better than you with my predictions.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lagaceta.com.ar/nota/459748/Politica/video-Tabare-Vazquez-hablo-sobre-guerra-pasteras-.html
Maybe you two idiots should know more about the counties you claim to live in.
BTW I lived in BA and Znorte for 5 years, that's more than you Stevie and by your “english” and illogical posts your probably a native.
Lighter impossible. All the stupid and ridiculous scene of a small group of British despicable living (mostly temporarily) and voting in Argentine territory (so-called “referendum”) is not for anything other than pirate exploiting Argentinian resources.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It goes without repeat the obvious, that what is simply whether the territory in question is from the legal, geographical and historical, Argentine or British (!). Could hardly could despicable occasional inhabitants of the Malvinas Argentinas Islands, decide whether the territory is British. This stupid Cameron and the stupid queen believe that someone in the world is going to swallow such a lie.
Filmus already said (although we come saying for the whole story). what is actually are the interests of Albion on resources (Argentine), South Atlantic (Argentina) and the Antarctic projection (Argentina).
@54
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry José, you're at least three centuries too late to be creating an Empire.
The FALKLANDS will remain a BOT unless the ISLANDERS decide otherwise. You blew it by not conforming to the UN Resolution 502. Just get over it, you will not see the FALKLANDS under Argentinian rule EVER without the ISLANDERS agreeing to it. You have NOTHING to negotiate with.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 057
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've asked that your post be removed.
58.... what a problem.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No point giving an Argie a history lesson, this is all the lesson they need. I personally cannot wait to see this beast in action, hopefully over Argentina.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-first-supersonic-uav-is-ready-for-takeoff-514058742
59
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, it was no problem at all; honestly.
@57
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So nobody's denying then, that Uruguay did consider the possibility of war with Argentina over the BOTNIA mill?
@60 keyboard warrior detected, and counting.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that is the typical british answer to all their paranoid problems.
and they want to be helped by the rest of latin america. very funny.
@63
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well what do you think we are building them for? When all is said and done the final world lies with the greater power protecting its interests.
63
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, you're wrong. I simply reported you for breaking the rules of this site.
57. I don't think you understand English enough to post on this site. I lived in Argentina as long as I could stand it. It is a a corrupted society run by the mafia. You are too dumb and lazy to have democracy.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing that could help is finding an RG Pinochet to fix it once and for all.
@65--- i'm very concerned.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63. Plonker detected. Please explain what aggression British forces in the South Atlantic are guilty of. And, please explain why Argentina is blockading the peaceful Falkland Islands and attacking British tourists in Argentinian ports? And, please explain why Gollum will not talk?
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 067
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I couldn't be less interested in whether you are concerned or otherwise.
yankeedumb, we already had our own pinochet, thanks to the u.s and the doctrina de seguridad nacional.
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the fact you think that pinochet is the only thing that could help, says a lot of you.
@63
Jan 05th, 2014 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, here is another one for you, enjoy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8587357/New-British-missile-three-times-as-fast-as-current-weapons.html
@paulcedron, How do you come to the conclusion that it's the British who are paranoid let me remind you
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0HMS Dauntless visits The Falkland Islands and Argentina as a mad menopausal fit
the comic strip hero Hector Timerman runs at the orders of The botox queen to The UN to report that she has spotted British nuclear submarines around her her back yard-I think you will find it's Argentina who suffers from mass paranoia and insecurity.
yankee, uruguay and argentina would never go into war against each other.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0what vazquez has said is meaningless, in front of a little bunch of schoolboys, without the support of their own party, etc.
on the other hand, to declare war both in argentina and uruguay, you need the approval of the congress, something unthinkable in both countries, most of all due to botnia.
clearly you cannot understand spanish, but if you get a translator, try to read this:
http://www.clarin.com/politica/Gueleguaychu-pueden-Uruguay-analizado-Argentina_0_571143061.html
@ paulcedron ,You do talk a lot of shit does it come natural???
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@63
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“and they want to be helped by the rest of latin america. very funny.”
It's Britain that's doling out aid to Argentina, not the other way around.
“How do you come to the conclusion that it's the British who are paranoid”
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0the fact that the britontos send their leaky vessels to malvinas or gibraltar every time they think they have a “problem” is a clear sign of paranoia.
the worst thing is that all that rusty, leaky sh*t, contaminates the atlantic and the mediterranean sea.
keep them out of the water, for the sake of the environment.
@76
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0With Argentine ships sinking at their moorings that's a farcical claim to make.
76. Obviously you've nver seen the Matanza-Riachuelo River Basin or Tigre or effluence from BA. All 3 are black, not muddy brown, black.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ranking as the MOST POLLUTED Waters in the world.
Yes the World
Filthy filthy people
“We look forward to the growth in trade and understanding with our neighbors that may come from this visit” said Mr. Spink.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Our Neighbors”? You only have one neighbor Argentina. And we Argentines want to know nothing of an implanted population ..!
and what has the riachuelo got to do with the atlantic or the mediterranean?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0as far as i know we are not contaminating other countries waters like this nuclear shit you send everywhere.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/15/hms-astute-submarine-slow-leaky-rusty
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/15/hms-astute-submarine-slow-leaky-rusty
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/15/hms-astute-submarine-slow-leaky-rusty
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/nov/15/hms-astute-submarine-slow-leaky-rusty
and a yank concerned by the environment? must be a joke after all the nuclear bombs you have thrown around the globe.
you are a joke yank
This guy is an amateur! Not an original post yet.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 02 of the most polluted rivers in the world are in the u.s.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cuyahoga River – Ohio, U.S.A.
Mississippi River – U.S.A.
filthy, filthy people.
82 paulcedron
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Welcome to the English Language Edition of MercoPress.
You must be new at this. Obviously you have just received your portfolio of “Evils wot them Brits an' Yanks done us”.
We'll be patient while you troll through the standard issue “evil empires”, “ child murderers”, and “ you're going to be sucked into the debt vortex of Hell ” chapters.
Does the new package contain the “ China gonna save our butts - so nuts to you!” revision, or the “Mercosur Isolationism to Prosperity” insert?
Hope it doesn't take too long for you to get to the “Now you're on your own, Happy Trolling” bit at the end.
We're tired of hearing verbatim the same old crap that Stevie and Dany have been spewing, all over again.
Better hurry - I don't think Campora is going to be able to pay you much longer, if the K's are making a 'runner'. :-)
What's the AR Peso at now, 14 per US $ ???
Troy how did you get hold of the La Campora induction guide? LOL
Jan 06th, 2014 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have to love when they appear fresh out of training and their indoctrination.
Take this for instance“2 of the most polluted rivers in the world are in the u.s.
Cuyahoga River – Ohio, U.S.A.
Mississippi River – U.S.A.
filthy, filthy people.”
That was in reply to yankeeboy's comment on the Matanza-Riachuelo River. The Matanza-Riachuelo River is the second most polluted river in the WORLD after one in Indonesia.
http://www.worstpolluted.org/projects_reports/display/114
I quote “It’s believed that 60% of the approximately 20,000 people who reside near the river basin live in territory deemed unsuitable for human habitation”
Unsuitable for human habitation!!!!
Who are the “filthy, filthy people” now?
Anglotino
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I feel a bit sorry for these guys. As if their lives and ambitions are in the crapper already, living under CFK's regime (if they in fact, do), but then they get fed all this, “ the world has a special hate for us Argentinians - they wish to take away everything we are entitled to” indoctrination and whip them up further with lurid tales about the evil English-Speaking Peoples who “murder women and children” with the goal of subjugating all other races, and we boil babies for breakfast.
I would like to think that some of the Trolls are just righteously-indignant Idealists who are just stooges for the K's, but some like Dany, are just nasty shits with an inferiority complex.
Stevie is on another thread right now, trying to back-pedal on some of the nonsense he's been mouthing off about.
Xavier
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands only has one neighbour?
Where did you get that ridiculous idea from?
Chile is only 10km further away from the islands than Argentina....!
@79
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0> And we Argentines want to know nothing of an implanted population ..!
Nothing more comic than the implanted Italo-Iberian population of Argentina getting its knickers in a twist over implanted populations
The trolls are getting desperate.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course we have the British military here.
lts our country & we will invite who we like & its nothing to do with you.
We wouldn't need any military if we didn't have Argentina for a neighbour.
José, are you a bit retarded? Your posts don't make too much sense.
However, this is NOT your land, haven't you been told?
paulcedron, you also seem a bit confused, maybe you haven't been told either.
Nevermind, you two will eventually pick it up.
Sure, but then stat isolated and stop crying about it.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0No SA nation will deal with Brit brutes, the people wont allow it.
Until then, deal with the ones like Meikle, and be confused thinking you are dealing with Uruguay...
Stevie
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“No South American country will deal with Brit Brutes”.
Stevie, ALL South American countries are already dealing with Britain you deluded muppet. Billions of dollars of trade every year.
What you are arguing is that they will deliberately victimise 3000 people on some islands 300 miles of their coast, and treat them differently to the rest of Britain.
This is your right, it will have zero impact on Britain, a tiny impact on the islanders who will just sell their oil to South Africa and the Carribean, and potentially a far more significant impact to some South American economies who will deliberately be starving their already poverty striken population with cheap energy source.
poor Stevie...thinks he is spiting Britain, but in fact is spiting himself...what a turd!
@91
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0As an avowed hispanosupermacist, Stevie would clearly favour an apartheid type arrrangement rather than one of peaceful co-existence.
Not all Brits are brutes. Remember, Scots, Welsh and N Irish are also Brits...
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@92
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are just a cock Stevie, just run along, like a good little boy.
You like it, don't you? You little masochist!!
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0;)
@76
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0“the fact that the britontos send their leaky vessels to malvinas or gibraltar every time they think they have a “problem” is a clear sign of paranoia.
the worst thing is that all that rusty, leaky sh*t, contaminates the atlantic and the mediterranean sea.
keep them out of the water, for the sake of the environment.”
Says Paulcedron as Argentine Navy ships frequently capsize leaking at their ports .
@79
“d we Argentines want to know nothing of an implanted population ..!”
Says someone who's country is full of implanted Europeans......
@trollo tempest
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You must be new at this.”
so you must be old at this,
so?
”Better hurry - I don't think Campora is going to be able to pay you much longer, if the K's are making a 'runner'. :-)“
funny all the britons, kelpers and llanitos that read this newspaper think that all the argentinians belong to ”la cámpora” (LA cámpora, not cámpora, you dimwit).
it would be like saying that all the britons are pirates, .... well, it can be true
la cámpora and quebracho are formed by people that is exactly like you,
you are the british / kelper version of la cámpora
@96
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You think you are so intellectual, tell me what is La Campora and what is its function?
”I feel a bit sorry for these guys. As if their lives and ambitions are in the crapper already, living under CFK's regime (if they in fact, do), but then they get fed all this, “ the world has a special hate for us Argentinians“
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0after watching the uk riots, i would say that your lives and ambitions are in the crapper already.
and we don´t think that ”the world has a special hate for us argentinians”.
we like the rest of the world think that the world has a special hate for you brits.
some examples: argentina, the rest of latin america, spain, germany, france, italy, the rest of continental europe, ireland, pakistan, afghanistan, iraq, iran, india, the arab countries, 3/4 parts of africa, and the list goes on.
you are not very appreciated in the rest of the world, are you?
Welcome back Toby! How was the 13 hr bus ride? How come you didn't go to the better beaches in Chile?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW have you noticed there are still 14 neighborhoods without electricity and water AND they're still blocking hwys?
Do you think the toxic fumes from the burning tires and garbage is what makes Rgs stupid and violent?
#98
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And your proof of this is exactly what ? Or is just another Argie bashing his gums together.
If it is such a dreadful place, why is it so popular with illegal immigrants risking their lives to get here ?
yankeedumb: better beaches in chile? lol
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0have you ever been to viña del mar, reñaca, valparaíso?
no? then shut it.
funny you talk about 14 neighborhoods without electricity in b.a. you must be concerned about the 50.000 /100.000 homes in the uk without electricity and flooded to the ceiling
Um yeah I have been to all 3 towns in Chile?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ever been to the wet, windy, brown cold water in MDQ?
It's pretty gross.
Plus what's up with all the trash on the streets?
Are Rgs too stupid to use trash cans? Or too lazy?
I don't know anything about the UK nor do I care. They are smart enough to take care of their situation. Not so much the Rgs
You didn't answer me, Do you think its the toxic fumes from the burning garbage and tires that makes Rgs dumb and lazy?
“”Our Neighbors”? You only have one neighbor Argentina. And we Argentines want to know nothing of an implanted population ..!”
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is actually wrong. The Falkland Islands are also our neighbours, if you consider Chile has access to the Atlantic via the Beagle Channel, Cap Hoorn and the 3 islands Picton, Lennox y Nueva in the atlantic, but also the fully Chilean Magellan Street,where you can clearly see the CHILEAN Lighthouse Punta Dungeness at the atlantic coast:
http://www.expenews.com/assets/images/dispatches/1024_3d2e760eed6618fd4be841c639ff5f9425a3fc6aa492be731158d35f7fef8bed.jpg
Lighthouse Dungeness, in front of our atlantic ocean:
http://www.expenews.com/assets/images/dispatches/1024_3d2e760eed6618fd4be841c639ff5f9425a3fc6aa492be731158d35f7fef8bed.jpg
a yank opining about trash on the streets? haha
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0have you ever been to new york, yank?
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2002/2002-04-17-02.asp
and how can you compare viña del mar or valparaíso with pinamar, cariló, mar del sur, etc?
the sea, the sand, the weather and especially the women are 2000% better.
Carilo is nice but it is impossible to use the beaches in Argentina due to the wind and blowing sand. plus the water is freezing and dirty. It is the only place I have ever traveled to that you have to use a tent to stay out of blowing sand.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is awful.
Why do you think the rich people go to PDE or Miami?
Only the people who can't afford to leave stay in Arg for beach vacations.
Yes I've been to NYC, about 1x month for work. It is clean and gorgeous. One of the best cities in the world. The article you posted is a decade old and is from an Environmental News Organization. Not one anyone with brains would take seriously.
not one with brains would take you seriously, you halfwit.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the rich people go to miami?
no, the new rich and the “grasas” go to miami
“Forget Finance, New York is Trash Capital of the World”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/39309851
“Nueva York es la ciudad más sucia de EEUU”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/39309851
@98 Toby
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0> you are not very appreciated in the rest of the world, are you?
It depends who you ask. According to the Globescan survery of 33 countries in 2005 :
”Among all countries polled this year, 26 have a positive view of Britain’s influence—11 a majority and 15 a plurality. Just five have a negative view (3 majorities, 2 pluralities). On average 47 percent have a positive view of Britain and 25 percent a negative view.
The most negative countries are Muslim countries—Iran (66% negative), Iraq (57%) and Turkey (41% negative, 17% positive). However, Indonesia is positive (53%) as is Afghanistan (47%) and especially Nigeria (75%). Saudi Arabia is divided.
Two Latin American countries are negative— Argentina (51%) and Mexico (36% negative, 15% positive). But Brazil leans positively (49% to 29%).
All other countries are positive on Britain’s role. Especially positive are the US (71%), Poland (72%), South Korea (75%), Ghana (67%) and Nigeria (75%).”
Those who liked us least were Iran, Iraq, and Argentina, which only goes to show we must be getting something right.
http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/bbc06-3/
New rich are still rich. When I lived in Argentina not one person I knew went to the Rg beaches all of them went to PDE.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do realize the articles you posted are about the amount of trash NYC generates not that its a dirty city. You've obviously never been there.
Did we deny your visa? Is that what makes you so angry?
Again you refused to answer my question:
Do the toxic fumes from all the burning trash and tires make Rgs stupid and lazy?
Come on it's an easy question.
Have you been protesting? Is that why you can't seem to come up with links to support your claims?
BTW what does NYC have to do with how filthy BA or MDQ is? Whataboutery is so common with dumb people. How come?
@107. globalsacan?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”The poll of 39,435 people was conducted for the BBC World Service by the international polling firm GlobeScan together with the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland. ”
and you think it is trustable. you are a joke.
@108.sadly i had to go there some time ago.
the image of the garbage cramming the streets of new york was exactly the opposite to my local neighbourhood of san isidro.
you can add that 5 of the most dangerous cities in the world are located in the u.s (new orleans, detroit, st. louis ; baltimore and oakland, calif.) and none in argentina.
but you still keep saying nonsense.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/10/most-violent-cities-in-the-world-mexico-honduras-brazil-colombia-venezuela_n_3053727.html
Many Brazilians are looking forward to doing business with the Falklanders, who are not only richer but also way more reliable than the Argentinians.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well maybe if Arg gov't put out real murder rates it would tell a different story.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0San Isidro is one of the richest suburbs! I hope it would be clean. It's not too safe though and it is really scary at night by the train station.
Really Scary!
Too bad the nicest neighborhoods are surrounded by slums. I wanted to live in Horqueta but my handlers wouldn't let me. Far too dangerous for an American.
to put the things clear, neither uruguay nor chile, with bachelet in charge, will send any help to the falklanders.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and they are not going to do business with them either.
the opinion of the latin american countries about malvinas is this: ”Struggle to end with 'shreds of colonialism' (Malvinas) must continue, said Mujica”
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/12/21/struggle-to-end-with-shreds-of-colonialism-malvinas-must-continue-said-mujica?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=main&utm_campaign=facebook
so forget about doing business here and be ready to import all your inputs from the uk.
it will be a bit expensive for the brit taxpayer, but who cares?
Hasn't Chile been trading with The Falklands for 100+yrs? Don't they also have a lot of Chilenos working there?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem disoriented.
Are you standing too close to the tire fumes?
@112
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Given the strained relations between Mujica and Crissy, what would you expect him to say. Christ do you not know what diplomacy means? He lives next door you twat.
do you read spanish, yankkedumb?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then read this and stop posting bullsh*t
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1446528-ya-se-sufre-en-malvinas-el-bloqueo-comercial
@109
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would say all of Globescan, the University of Maryland, and the BBC World Service are more likely to be credible than a foam-flecked gringophobe such as yourself, whose only response when confronted with a contradiction to your world view is to shout out “Liar”.
In fact you don't need to be Albert Einstein to figure that Argentine anglophobia, as induced by the Argentine education system, is not generally shared by the rest of the world at all. Indeed it's not even prevalent throughout Latin America.
and if mujica statements were not sufficient, here you have the declaration of bachelet.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bachelet reafirma apoyo a demanda argentina por Islas Malvinas
http://www.emol.com/noticias/nacional/2010/02/26/400676/bachelet-reafirma-apoyo-a-demanda-argentina-por-islas-malvinas.html
i think it is fair enough.
the brits have the islands, but they do not have the support of the rest of latin america.
it is more or less the same in other british colonies, isnt it?
The Falklands can get whatever they need from the USA. If they've been blocking them for over 2 years I guess they should give up since it doesn't seem to be affecting them at all.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oil business keeps chugging along.
$$$ for them and none for the Rgs
They can't even get their own oil out of th ground
Stupid corrupt Rgs nobody wants to do business with them
So sad.
Anyone hear how the Repsol negotiations are going? I hear they want U$ not bonds. That may prove a bit problematic for Argentina since they are out of cash.
@117
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I totally agree with you paulcedron, Latam countries will certainly agree with you to your face, but you know the truth, they are dealing with the FALKLANDS behind your back, you cock
“In fact you don't need to be Albert Einstein to figure that Argentine anglophobia, as induced by the Argentine education system, is not generally shared by the rest of the world at all. Indeed it's not even prevalent throughout Latin America.”
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it was induced by all the looting and pillage committed by the british around the globe, not by the education system.
so you think it is not shared, for instance, by the people of spain, republic of ireland, venezuela, germany, pakistan, iraq, iran, india, afghanistan, syria, etc.
then you are a deluded poor thing.
@120
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me who takes any notice of what the LATAM countries think, Argentina will be thrown out of the G20 shortly, and how is the currencies doing down there? Not well, i understand.
not well, indeed.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and how´s everything in the uk?
not well, i understand.
“Compensation claims for London riots damage remain unpaid, says Labour”
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/04/london-riots-damage-compensation-claims-unpaid
Iraq Iran syria Pakistan...good company. You're a bit mistaken with Germany and Ireland though since they're both HUGE trade partners and very close allies.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My guess is your standing downwind of the burning tires and garbage.
@117 paulcedron
Jan 06th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our position has not changed with respect to the Falklands. Piñera has maintained the same position as Bachelet, so when Bachelet returns in March the status quo will remain.
The Status quo is that there is a weekly flight from Punta Arenas to the islands. The status quo is that we have an excellent relationship with the UK as we do with most countries. The status quo is that 200 - 300 Chileans work on the Falklands.
We know, like all rational people do, that the FI are not yours and will not be until they decide otherwise. You have neither the military strength to take them nor the legal strength to win at the ICJ. There is nothing you can do to make the islands yours.
Chile will continue to verbally support your cause because it is free and of no consequence. We also continue to strengthen economic and cultural links with all nations, including the UK who we have very significant military ties with. It is WIN-WIN for Chile and LOSE-LOSE for Argentina.
We will play you for a fool as long as you continue to be foolish. I hope that is not too long, but like I say it makes little difference in Chile.
yank:
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do you really think that ireland (the people, politicians, historians, etc) think that england is a close friend of them?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
being a yank, maybe you dont know who ronan o´gara and brian o´driscoll are, but this article summarizes what the irish feel for the english.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
“ENGLISH QUEEN SHOULD NOT SET FOOT IN REPUBLIC”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
Yes I do. I go to Ireland have you ever been there or do you just look at 200 year old history.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a dolt.
Missed this one.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14256280
yankeedumb i go there once every 2 years at least .
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i still have some relatives there.
so you better shut up
This one too.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11807769
Paricularly like the bit where he says, “It will be paid back.”
Even if realtions have been strained, at least you can count on the Irish to keep their word, unlike some!
Sure you do.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Slum dwellers don't travel.
Which slum do you live in the one near horqueta or the jocky club?
lol. “jocky” club, you mean jockey club?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and which slum is near the jockey club, you retarded?
and you said you have lived here for 5 years? lol
you have never left your filthy cave in the bronx.
Ooh sorry
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last resort for retards calling out typos.
the fact is that you are a retarded.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no offence intended. it is just a description
and it has nothing to with your typos, but with your genetics.
http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=4288
@120
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Insofar as the behaviour of one's ancestors some centuries ago has any bearing on issues of today, I am surprised that a descendant and/or beneficiary of the most rapacious and genocidal of all the european colonial empires, thinks he's in any position to be giving lectures to anybody.
Indeed it's curious how the “looting and pillaging”of the Brits around the world has left the victims, for the most part, in control, friendly, members of the Commonwealth, and in much better shape, politically, economically, and developmentally, than the alumni of the former Spanish Empire, which have been almost without exception laid low by thieving oligarchies and clerical-military dictatorships whose attitudes and practices they are still struggling to escape from.
It's also curious, in my experience at least, that I only ever hear this view of history as a list of bad things done by villainous Brits, with nobody much else involved, coming from Argentines. And it's so consistent, and so untouched by even the slightest glimmer of self-awareness, that I assume it's being taught that way. Everybody else seems to get some grasp of ideologies, historical processes, other actors, but you guys have nothing much more than cartoons and eye patches.
But at least you've noticed that we aren't friends with with chums of yours such as the murderous Assad regime in Syria, or the Pakistani Taliban, or the Afghan Taliban, though it must have escaped your attention that we are fundamentally allies with Germany, Ireland, and even Spain, despite the Gibraltar dispute.
Meanwhile, of course, you can count on Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Belarus, and other members of the C24. I guess you can tell countries by the company they keep, huh?
#133
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK population approx. 63 million with immigration last year at 500,000+ --probable underestimation
Argentina population approx. 41 million - immigration 300,000.
Using these verifiable figures I think that statistically the web reference applies to YOUR country !
I am from the USA you dolt.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are picketing stand upwind from the toxic fumes if you can.
Fury over cash-strapped Britain sending Argentina £9m in aid
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CASH-strapped Britain is sending more than £9million to Argentina this year
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/359054/Fury-over-cash-strapped-Britain-sending-Argentina-9m-in-aid
“Why on earth are we sending aid to Argentinia? It is absolutely ridiculous. They are behaving outrageously towards the Falklands and hardly need the money”
Tory MP Ian Liddell-Grainger
Falklands War hero Simon Weston added: “I find it abhorrent this money is being given as the Argentinian government is constantly harassing Falkland Islanders.”
[[A Foreign Office spokesman said the £7m was part of a European agreement drawn up five years ago.]]
We obey, we obey, masters in government and EU ask, and we obey,,we obey..??
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#133
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is this your alter ego ?
http://eskup.elpais.com/paulcedron
When CFK goes, so will their stupid claim,
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Fury over cash-strapped Britain sending Argentina £9m in aid
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CASH-strapped Britain is sending more than £9million to Argentina this year”
says a 3rd class british tabloid. lol
we have never received any help from britain.
britain on the other hand received the help of 4000 soldiers, pilots, nurses, etc to save your arses from germany in ww2.
guess the british tabloids don´t say a sh*t about that, no?
http://santostefanocarlosalberto.blogspot.com.ar/2012/06/800-pilotos-argentinos-contra-la.html
http://santostefanocarlosalberto.blogspot.com.ar/2012/06/800-pilotos-argentinos-contra-la.html
@140
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder how the 4000 who volunteered to fight fascism feel about Peronism?
Malvinas vs Falklands: Negotiations with the U.N
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-vys78sGB7Y
brill…lol
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i think they felt really bad after knowing that churchill was just another fascist and murderer.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.infowars.com/winston-churchill-war-hero-or-war-criminal/
http://www.infowars.com/winston-churchill-war-hero-or-war-criminal/
words,,, just words,,.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then again argentine dirty war was more relevant was it not..
@133 Yep Clyde, thats him. Press secretary of the Buenos Aires Shit Shovelers Union
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Holy Crap the Peso is at $10.50!!!
Jan 06th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They'll be lucyk to keep inflation under 50% this year.
@143
Jan 06th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“debate continues to rage” .... what's the debate about e.g Peron, the two Mrs Perons, Videla, Galtieri? How do you think your WWII heroes would have lined up there?
@140 4000 brave men and women that stood up against Hitler, the fact the majority of them lived in Europe in the first place is not important eh, the fact they were fighting for there own lives, land and futures, how many actually actively travelled from Rgenweener to Europe to fight against Hitler, I bet you money now VERY FEW. Rgenweener actively sided with Germany in WW2 and only “joined” sides with the allies after they realised Germany was beaten and declared war on them in ..................wait for it MARCH 1945 so don't talk crap
Jan 06th, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Around 600 Argentine volunteers, mostly of Anglo-Argentine descent, joined the British and Canadian Air Forces, many in the 164 Argentine-British RAF squadron, which motto was Firmes volamos (Determined We Fly) and its insignia was a British lion in front of a rising sun representing Argentina. Some pilots adorned the side of their aircraft with a picture of a popular Argentine cartoon character called Patoruzú, an indigenous Indian with incredible strength.
See I can Google things as well pay particular attention to the mostly Anglo Argentine bit
the funny thing about the escuadrón 164 is that ,when you search it in the raf site, they dont even mention that all its pilots were argentinian.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/164squadron.cfm
but your 3rd class tabloids say that britain sent money to argentina, when there are not any records about it, neither in the b.c.r.a., a.f.i.p., m.econ, nor in the media.
poor brainwashed britontos
@148
Jan 06th, 2014 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol.
The only thing more comically unfounded than the Argentine claim to the Falklands, is the Argentine claim to the moral high ground.
149.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, but this one does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N4cIh__tnc
@149 just type in Argentina Britain ww2, and you will find that as I said above the majority were ANGLO ARGENTINE, not all Argentine, do you comprehend what anglo argentine is or do you need an explanation? You have found the wiki page before as you quoted part of it in your original post of crap
Jan 06th, 2014 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what anglo - argentine, you moron?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that definition ceased to exist 1 century ago here.
they were argentinian period, some of spanish, italian and french heritage, some of british heritage and a lot of irish heritage.
the thing they have in common was having assisted to some british schools - st george´s, st andrew´s etc
but they were 100 % argentinian
the pilots were just a tiny part. there were 4000 more who helped your nation.
@153 paulcedron,
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't think that we are not grateful, we are very grateful for ALL the help that we got to stop the Nazis.
Thank you 164 Squadron.
However had we been overwhelmed, most probably the world, AND eventually Argentina, would have been conquered by the Nazis--remember that, paul.
Even so, it still does not give Argentina any rights to steal British land in the South Atlantic.
@isolde
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i do not agree with you at all, of course, but at least you seem to be an educated person (and a bit funny too: thank you 164 squadron-), not like some of the other posters here.
now argentina was not involved in ww2.
there were not any risk for argentina, being almost 16000 km from the theatre of war.
and the volunteers helped your nation, period. not a humanitarian cause.
finally, the islands are british because of an invasion, i really dont care at this point if the are british or not. all we want is not having to deal with the warmonger british prime minister, your military base there, etc.
The Malvinistas on here, well paulcedron seems to be the only one at the moment, are crying about our defence capabilities and saying the UK is paranoid for insisting on it. But I pose this question, again, to anyone who would care to answer it:
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you honestly believe that if the UK withdrew its military garrison from the Falklands that the Argentine Goverment wouldn't send some sort of force (military or otherwise) to the islands and attempt to gain control?
” the Argentine Goverment wouldn't send some sort of force (military or otherwise) to the islands and attempt to gain control?”
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what force?
this vessel for example?
http://www.clarin.com/politica/historico-Malvinas-hunde-Puerto-Belgrano_0_851315037.html
or this one?
http://www.clarin.com/politica/historico-Malvinas-hunde-Puerto-Belgrano_0_851315037.html
“Only force sustains the fact they can keep hostage the 2.000 ‘malvinenses’ (Islanders), condemning them to isolation and submission when they are 14.000 kilometres away from their political reference in London”
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arturo Puricelli, former Defence Minister
When belligerent nutters like this can attain ministerial office, I'd be inclined to rely on my 1500 man Death Star and my 4 scary aeroplanes.
@ 153 No your Moron, they were a 100% ANGLO ARGENTINE, read your own link again, Argentine wives' of British men or vice versa, which makes them and their children Anglo Argentine ie half British half Argentine, or in your fooked up world because they lived in Britain they must have been British. If your mum was from the US and you Dad Rg you'd be US/Argentine, same as my sons an Anglo Scot, I'm English and my wife's Scottish. Got it to difficult for you? However well done to them all they have my deepest respect for what they did
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0157
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As usual, you didn't actually answer the question. Which one of the old regulars are you a reincarnation of? Maybe even Think?
158
Thank you. I was going to quote that deadbeat but forgot to add it into my post.
Methinks its another Toby creation. He's used the same talking points before. I get confused sometimes because they all seem to have gone to the same terrible schools to be brainwashed. So sometimes its a little hard to tell at first.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0161
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One thing is for sure; he won't be new to the site. He's either Think or one of his many other names OR, Tobias or one of his many other names.
Credibility check anyone?
@161 who cares whoever it is ain't very clever
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@159- i know many of those families from my old club, many of them had a british mother or father, but they were born here, they were educated and formed here, hence they are 100 % argentinian. it is not that difficult to understand.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0with your criteria all the argies would not be argentinians but irish argentinian, spanish argentinian, anglo argentinian and so forth.
many of them were volunteers for this country during the malvinas war, not for combat, but for logistics and stuff.
anyway, the funny thing is that the raf has never mentioned it.
@ 164 Derr that is what I'm saying thicko, the only real Argentinians are the ones you wiped out, all rg's are part Spanish/ Italian BRITISH, your statement was that they were 100% rgenweener but they weren't they were people living in Britain that happened to have rgenweenian parents on one side which made them ANGLO / Argentines, anyone who has parents born in two different countries has dual nationality whatever country they were born in, comprendi, ie if my mother was Argentine (god forbid) I'd be ANGLO / Argentine, if I had a German father and Dutch mother I'd be of German /Dutch descent not difficult is it?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0138 Clyde
Jan 07th, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good find - Paul Cedron, Internet nutter!
163 Slsttzzz
“who cares whoever it is ain't very clever”
- no, but “rabid” would be a better description.
He seems to have a very personal 'issue' with the English-speaking world, the English and Americans in particular.
I bet he's a joy to live with.
“ oh, Pater, when will young Paul get married and move out of the basement for good?”
“Now, now, Old Girl, you know that no young girl is virtuous enough for our Paul.”
LOL !!
“the only real Argentinians are the ones you wiped out”
Jan 07th, 2014 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0what's your level of education?
kindergarten?
have you ever in your life read a history book about argentina?
no?
then why you opine about things you dont know / understand?
have you ever heard of la conquista del desierto and the role of the british railway company, the british farming companies, etc?
have you ever heard about the guerra de la triple alianza and the role of the baring brothers bank and other british companies there?
read a book once in a while, you halfwit.
not to mention the role of england / britain in the massive killings around the world.
here you have a little example of the valuable contribution of england to the world:
The High Seas, 1600-1734.
English Privateers murder, rape, and sell into slavery over 50,000 women and children. The practice is endorsed by the Crown, with most looted profits returning to London.
New York. Pequot War 1634-1638
5000 women and children Pequots and members of allied tribes slaughtered or sold into slavery by the English.
Cromwellian Conquest of Ireland 1649-1653
200,000 women and children starved. 12,000 Sold into Slavery.
English colonization of America 1607-1776
undocumented millions of Indians slaughtered or sold into slavery.
English seige of Quebec 1759
3000-5000 women and children starved, raped, tortured or sold into slavery.
American Revolutionary War 1776-1781
approximately 5000 women and children systemically murdered, raped, tortured or sold into slavery by British occupiers.
Napoleonic Wars 1800-1812
British Ships shell hundreds of Ports throughout Europe, indiscriminately killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians.
United States, War of 1812
several thousand civilians murdered, raped, tortured by British occupiers. British Occupiers burn original copy of Declaration of Independence and the U.S Constitution.
Opium Wars, China, 1839-1860
50,000 Chinese civilians killed by shelling of Chinese ports. Unknown millions die of Opium
I don't know if he is another Sockpuppet. Mainly because he hasn't actually hasn't said one single original thing.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0He has just gone through the entire LA Campora (my iPhone wanted to autocorrect that to armpit..... oh the irony) handbook: evils of colonialism, the Irish, defence cutbacks, riots or social issues in UK, how supposedly dirty NYC is...... it is as if I have read it all before.
El día de Groundhog!
Anyway he is settling in for the longhaul. Seems we may have lost Think after his ventilator or iron lung or dialysis machine stopped working during the blackout. And Nostril's parents forbid him getting on the internet on their annual parole.... I mean vacation.... Though last year he snuck away and appeared for a day before disappearing again. Stevie's lithium prescription needs to be refilled.
So now we have Paul. That is a very European name. Surely he can't be a product of this evil colonialism that only England was guilty of. Why that would make him an anglo.....*gasp!
What is his native name? “Best bit fell on floor”?
continuation:
Jan 07th, 2014 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ireland. The Great Famine 1845-1852
660,000-1 million starved to death. England denies all food aid to Ireland from Europe. Millions of Irish flea Ireland, most bound for America and South America. English descendants in America attempt to limit refugees and immigration.
India. Systemic starvation against rebelling population between 1765-1947 claims between 10-15 million lives. Much of the atrocities undocumented.
Second Boer War 1900-1902
30,000 Boer women and children starved in English concentration camps. Another suspected 100,000+ Black South Africans starved in English concentration camps.
Bombing of Dresden, Second World War 1945.
220,000-300,000 German civilians murdered by Churchill. Most historians and military strategists doubt the purpose or effectiveness of the Dresden bombing raids a few weeks from the end of the war as the Nazi regime was collapsing.
1947 Partition of India. British lines seperating various parts of Pakistan and India result in the deaths of millions of Sikhs, Muslims, and Hindus.
Total: 50 million people murdered, displaced, raped, or sold into Slavery by England in the last 400 years.
you can add the massive killings in iraq, afghanistan, etc.
Paulcredenza
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, Paul, we've heard it all before - our vast litany of crimes against all the lesser, undeserving races - many of them hundreds of years old, all of them out of context with other events and other empires.
All are your incomplete one-sided version.
Tell us again about the “undocumented millions of NA aboriginal people murdered”.
“Undocumented”? - can't back it up??
“millions”?? - were there really millions of aboriginals, and millions killed??
Paul, what is this indignant tirade against the English??
Your deep personal anger is really evidenced by your apoplectic ravings.
The British have always been an easy target for nut jobs with their own agenda or an axe to grind.
Yes, we've been the buffer between opposing groups plenty of times, with nobody happy about the end result.
That's what they call “the White Man's Burden”. Note that they don't say “The Spanisrd's Burden” or “the Argentinians' Burden” - you guys never lifted a finger for anyone.
Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Philipines were far better off under the US who built hospitals and schools and initiated health progrsms for the indigenous populations than they were, under the Spanish Empire.
I can see why you have such a bond with your claimed Irish relatives who also have a culture of blaming the English for their shortcomings or lack of opportunities.
Take responsibility for yourselves and your own societies.
Perhaps you can find website that FEATURES 24 hr whining about the Anglos. This one is about the news of SA and the South Atlantic.
Malvinas 1833
Jan 07th, 2014 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thousands slaughtered, raped and sold into slavery.
You forgot that one.
I heard the English turned off the electricity in BsAs over Christmas.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0They're so evil......oh and colonialist.
The most remarkable thing about Argentina anglophobia is the apparent assumption that British crimes, real or imagined, mean that Argentina must be right about something, or entitled to something, or guilty of nothing. This is the logic of toddlers.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Trolley
Jan 07th, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for you list of british “sins”..some of them reasonable, some of them fanatically insane.
Please could you provide an alternate list of global lives saved through the smallpox vaccine (developed by Edward Jenner) or perhaps peniccillin (developed by Alexander Fleming)
I am sure that your 50 million deaths (real and imagined) are less than 10% of the lives saved by these two developments alone. Smallpox used to kill 5m people a year worldwide. British medical science has a number of these which have been shared with the world.
Could you also counter your ravings with the number of people who no longer live under tyranny and oppression, or perhaps have had their lives saved by British military intervention. Of course these data doesn't suit your ludicrous arguments.
If you would like to add any Argentine medical advances, or where Argentine military intervention has saved folk from oppression feel free. I have included the full list in brackets below.
(.......)
#169
Jan 07th, 2014 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bombing of Dresden, Second World War 1945.
Just following an old German custom...Guernica, Warsaw, Amsterdam, London, Coventry, Plymouth, Exeter, Clydebank, Volvograd, Leningrad Moscow, Stalingrad Malta etc., etc,
There are two schools of thought about Dresden....both arguments have merit in the context of war.
Your favourite Spain.
Countless acts of genocide and theft from what is now the Southern States of the USA ,Mexico, Central America and South America.....including a small sojourn in the Falklands.
It is obvious that you do not know what you are talking about.
For example, the partition of India was insisted on by the Hindus.
We got the short straw trying to make it work.
Partition of India: Legend and Reality (1989) challenged the existing view that blamed the partition of India on M A Jinnah and the Muslim League. He argued that it was the latent bias on the part of Indian National Congress leadership which resulted in partition. It is a painstakingly accurate exercise of sifting through the Transfer of Power Papers, apart from dozens of other books on the subject of Partition, after which like a true jurist, Mr. Seervai has given his verdict and it is an interesting verdict but also a journey towards discovering the truth for Mr. Seervai. The journey, Mr. Seervai says, started for Rajmohan Gandhi with his fascinating inquiry into the life of Mr. Mahomed Ali Jinnah in which the author did not shy away from criticizing his famous grandfather Mohandas Gandhi for introducing religion into politics and refusing to accommodate the Muslims to share power. Rajmohan Gandhi’s thesis was considerably developed by Seervai, who after his indepth research and study on the subject, came to the conclusion that the INC, rather than the Muslim League, and Gandhi, Nehru & Patel, rather than Jinnah were primarily responsible for Partition by not accepting parity for Hindus and Muslims and other safeguards for Muslim interests.
”If you would like to add any Argentine medical advances, or where Argentine military intervention has saved folk from oppression feel free. I have included the full list in brackets below.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(.......)”
who told you that military interventions save lives?
only a deluded english or american could think that sh*t.
as a small example, you have the consequences of the invasion of iraq
only the u.s. and the u.k. could be even worse than hussein, with a result of:
4 million displaced people, the destruction of Iraq's economy, destruction of Iraq's cultural heritage, 100 killed daily, 1/3 of population living in extreme poverty, and immunity for the occupiers.
about argentine medical advances, we have the pioneer of heart-bypass surgery (rené favaloro) probably some members of your family were saved with his techniques,
julio montaner’s implementation of the seek and treat for optimal prevention of HIV/AIDS initiative, which will utilize hiv treatment as an hiv prevention strategy. the initiative seeks to drastically decrease hiv related morbidity and mortality.
luis federico leloir, nobel prize in chemistry, his research has led to significant progress in understanding, diagnosing and treating the congenital disease galactosemia.
bernardo houssay, nobel prize for physiology or medicine for his discovery of the role played by pituitary hormones in regulating the amount of blood sugar.
cesar milstein, nobel prize for theories concerning the specificity in development and control of the immune system and the discovery of the principle for production of monoclonal antibodies.
trolley
Jan 07th, 2014 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps you believe that military intervention in Bosnia didn't save lives..when the Bosnia Muslims were being massacred?
Interestingly, the current democratically elected governments in both Afghanistan and iraq dont share your animosity and are grateful for our assistance. Perhaps their view is more worthwhile than some cretin from Argentina?
Nice list of pathetic Argentine medical advances..I gave you the first one on another thread, compare and contrast with British medical advances...your countries contribution is a pathetic joke.
As you are keen to list Nobel laureates as some form of guide...Argentina has a PATHETIC 5.
the UK has 115 and the US has 350. I believe it is an accurate representation of the relative worth of each countries contribution.
Five PMSL........pathetic!!!! A joke...just like you
Toby, Hows the beach? Couldn't stay away from spewing your insane rants could you?
Jan 07th, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you doing to spend your whole summer in a locutorio?
Apparently according to Trolley...military intervention doesn't save lives.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However is much hated US and UK military both were on the scene in the Philipines providing humanitarian aid in the aftermath of typhon Haiyan as recently as two months ago.
Where were the Argies? Terrified to leave port in case their ships were impounded by folk they owe billions too?
Or couldn't give a shit as it didn't affect them...?
Or both...!!!
One example of several thousand of similar actions....poor trolley...made to look a DICK...YET AGAIN
@176
Jan 07th, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The invasion of Iraq has been a catastrophe perpetrated by two idiots, one with a Messiah complex. However, it still entitles Argentina to exactly nothing. The same applies to pretty much every crime ever perpetrated by Brits, or in which a Brit was involved. You could start your own wikipedia or even Internet to list them all, and if you weren't exhausted by the end you could do the same for the French, and the Spanish, and the Dutch, and the Japanese, and the Chinese, and the Russians. and the Mongols, and the Arabs, and the Persians, and the Romans, and the Zulus, and pretty much anybody who was ever anybody, and at the end of it all, you would have learned precisely nothing worth learning.
Of course the Argentine version would be much smaller than anybody else's since uniquely among the nations, Argentina has apparently never been responsible for anything. Thus we learn from your earlier post , for example, that the Conquest of the Desert was all somebody else's fault (the dastardly Brits), as was the War of the Triple of Alliance. We've previously learned fronm yourself that the military dictatorship(s) were also all somebody else's fault, too, and at various other times we've also been assured that the Falklands invasion was all Thatcher's fault, the original Argentine default was the fault of the IMF, and let's not forget of course the monstrous crime whereby an innocent warship was sunk in a war zone in wartime by its intended target after only two warnings.
I guess it's no wonder that Argentina complements its unique brand of anglophobia with the world's most developed Cult of National Victimhood. You poor things.
Nice to see British Ghana in UNASUR while The Falklands/Malvinas is trying..trying..trying...to cozy up to UNASUR but to no avail........
Jan 07th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Interestingly, the current democratically elected governments in both Afghanistan and iraq dont share your animosity and are grateful for our assistance. ”
Jan 07th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you don't even deserve to be nicknamed monkey.
you are a lot less intelligent.
so the people of iraq is grateful for your “assistance”, you retarded?
http://www.globalpolicy.org/humanitarian-issues-in-iraq/consequences-of-the-war-and-occupation-of-iraq.html
yes, right...
GPF was founded in New York in December 1993 by a group of fourteen progressive scholars and activists, among them James Paul, Erskine Childers and Joel Krieger. GPF is a non-profit, tax-exempt organization, with consultative status at the UN. In September 2004, Global Policy Forum Europe (GPF Europe) was founded as the sister-organization of GPF. GPF Europe is registered as a not-for-profit organization in Germany (“gemeinnütziger eingetragener Verein”). GPF Europe's primary aim has been to monitor and analyze German and European policy-making relating to and within the UN. The office of GPF Europe is located in Bonn, Germany.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scolars and activists.
Yeah, right!
trolley
Jan 07th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the internet is full of nut-jobs claiming all sorts of propaganda shite. Your link is another example. You may as well have linked a site talking about pigs on the moon, or an Argentine who wasn't a lazy twat...neither exist in reality.
Iraq has a democratically elected govenment, for the Irqi people, by the iraqi people. That government would list the UK and US as its allies. it is a government that doesn't use chemical weapons against its own people, a government that respects the rule of law, a governemnt that doesn't invade the sovereign territory of its neighbours.
I am sorry that the new Iraq disgusts you....Is it perfect, of course not...will it take time to rebuild after the years of Saddam...yes.
Argentina is happy to watch genocide in the Balkens and do nothing.
Argentina is happy to watch thousands dying after natural disasters and do nothing
Argentina is happy (and indeed proud) of it tiny contribution to anything positive in the worl
You are the guy who would stand and watch a vile crime being perpetrated, and worse criticise any one who tries to stop it.
You are all that is wrong in the world...you are an Argie!
And you are proud of killing women and children using drones...
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How many families have you lot “accidentally” slaugthered as for now?
Is anybody counting? I bet you know exactly how many Brit assassins have died the attempt....
@185 Stevie
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Loss of innocent lives is a tragedy, but how many lives have been saved by the actions of drones.
Once again you spew rubbish
What has Argentina done for the world, except steal land and money from the innocent.
Lets face it, you moan about lives lost because of the British, how about the lives lost at the hands of your own government.
How many innocent nuns and children were thrown from planes over the sea
Stevie, you really are a muppet
Oh Stevie do I have to give you the 'Imperial' bollocking again? Remember that you usually crumble like a sand castle in the rain when you debate me.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever you say. Just stop killing women and children, it's bloody not right!
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know it's Argentinas fault, together with those Islam nations that oppress women... except Saudi Arabia, their women are plain mean and need to be oppressed. But anyway...
Stevie you need mental help.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0stevie, did you agree with the policy of killing your own countrymen?
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i suppose its the only way you would win a fight, against yourself, eh
Vulcan
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you agree with you countrymen killing 6M Jews?
As for today, your nations should really stop killing innocent people for money.
You would all feel better as human beings...
#176
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would you like me to list the advances in medicine from the UK ?
Even Scotland with a tiny population has done more than Argentina
#181
Where is British Ghana ?
@stevie.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it seems these deluded, brainwashed britons think they are the salvation of the world, when all they have done for centuries was looting, raping, massive killings and slave trade
Nah cedron, they know they have just a few years left, and it hurts them. Remember, they are old...
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh for gosh sakes you two need to up your lithium.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ask CFK for a couple bottles
if she can spare it
stevie, when do you allege we killed 6 million jews, but without me having your instance, i cant comment, but what about the millions of jews rescued from Hitler in 1945.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK welcomed them into the country during the war and liberated them from the killing camps, what did Argentina do, oh yes that's right, they accepted the high ranking germans and their stolen loot into Argentina and treated them as kings.
There are even places in Argentina where German is the spoken language and they celebrate Hitler's assention. What a sick company
The biggest problem with accusations,
Jan 07th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is the teller, proving it,
Otherwise its just words,
Envious maybe, jealousy possibly,
But words just the same…
.
“what did Argentina”
Jan 07th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argentina has the biggest jew community of the americas, after the us and canada and the 6th of the world.
“There are even places in Argentina where German is the spoken language”
the spoken language of the whole territory is the spanish. there are a lot of places where they also speak german, french, english, polish, gaelic, etc etc etc as their 2nd language.
unlike the uk, gaelic language was never forbidden here.
and unlike britain, we are not a safe place for war criminals now.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/war-crimes-207-suspects-living-1762053
Wow!
Jan 07th, 2014 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Centuries of looting, raping, massive killing and slave trading and how do they decide to deal with us?
They set up the Malvinas Secreteriat, very civilised these Argies, stupid but civilised.
Filmus. “We demand you dialogue with us!”
Cameron. “Fuck off before we loot, rape, massive kill and enslave you for centuries!”
@199
Jan 07th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And by the way David Cameron is Luke Skywalker's father!
Did you even read the article.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Last year immigration officials at the UK Border Agency recommended action against 207 war crime suspects.”
How many has you country taken action against in the last 78?
Let me guess? Duhhhh, none!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uk border agency is a joke.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they are really hard with those immigrants from romania and bulgaria, but they are like loving girls with war criminals.
So that will be none then.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thought so.
@203
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We're awfully nice to our friends from Argentina too, I guess it's because of your momentous contribution to the defeat of Hitler.
“Last year immigration officials at the UK Border Agency recommended action against 207 war crime suspects”
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0recommended action?
and what the f*ck is “recommended action”? lol
doing nothing?
That's still a none then?
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@207
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“recommending action” would be the first stage of a legal process. It's the kind of thing that goes on when you're concerned about the rule of law. Of course some people would just throw those they disapprove of out of helicopters ....
Perhaps he should pop dow to the Adolf Eichmann Library located on Joseph Mengele Plaza and look it up?
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we are not receiving war criminals for the moment.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the ones we used to have, are dead
so no action is required.
britain has the monopoly for producing and protecting war criminals now.
@210
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a shame it's not a legal monopoly, because then we could be suing the arse off Bashir Assad, dog lover Kim Jong-Un, assorted flavours of Taliban, and various other friends of the Democratic Republic of Argentina.
What all 5.000 of them doubt that?
Jan 07th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117093/Secret-files...
i strongly distrust in those british pasquinades.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and you should do the same.
but if that is right, that was 70 years ago.
and all those nazi are dead.
britain on the other hand are producing and protecting war criminals now in the 21st century.
but the best thing is that one of their greatest heroes, churchill, was also one of the greatest criminals.
british are weird.
@212
Jan 07th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gosh. And how many British war criminals have been indicted by the International Criminal Court, or indeed any other court?
This thread was supposed to be about the oil industry in the Falklands & it has developed into a slanging match about who killed who & who is paying the rent.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So l'll put my 2 bob's worth in too! lol!
ALL Nations have dark periods in their history.
ALL of us have done things that we shouldn't have done.
Even the underdog has in the past, perpetrated crimes against humanity.
1) Bombing of Dresden etc--bombing of Coventry(or Warsaw, Rotterdam etc)
btw, paul@169, the Germans absolutely destroyed Minsk, my grandfather's hometown in 1944.
2)British “crimes” in lreland---lrish pirate raids on the west British coast in the 6th century, in which “women & children”(take note Stevie)were either killed or more commonly, sold into slavery.
3)And as for lndia, what a complicated subject that would be.
Hundreds of fragmented states, mired in religeous ignorance & misrule when we arrived.
Of course we didn't arrive as crusaders, but as traders to make a profit.
And we took advantage of lndia's inability to rule itself.
What would you do, sanctimonious Stevie & Paulcedron?
Rush forwards, to enlighten lndia? Doubt it.
We only just beat the French & Dutch.
But many lndians preferred our rule, still some do.
l have had some lndians in lndia say that they wish the British still ruled them instead of their own corrupt politicians.
We could go on all day, but whats the use.
I am afraid India is turning into a country that can't manage itself. It's too bad
Jan 07th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you know they print a 0 denomination bill just for bribes!
Bloody hell, now you have done it, the trolls will all be running back to Christina claiming that it was their idea!
Jan 07th, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pauledron, You say Chile and Uruguaty will not deal with the Islands? Get up to date- both Countries trade and deal with us and trade levels with Uruguay increase all the time! Both Countries refer to us directly by our correct name in their dealings with us - not the one you use- sorry - it is a FACT.
Jan 08th, 2014 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Companies in both Countries are expressing interest in bidding for infrastrucure contracts related to the oil industry that are likley to materialize over the next year or tw0.
Falklands looks to South America and Scotland to service its oil industry development
Jan 08th, 2014 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0says it all really ..
Islander
Jan 09th, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You mean like Pepe saying “Las Malvinas son Argentinas”?
Because some businessman or lawyer from the opposition does not precisely represent Uruguay...
For gods sake Stevie, do you really believe what Pepe's says?
Jan 10th, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody here does
You are an expat.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can assure you us Uruguayans believe a bit more in our Presidents words than in yours...
@221
Jan 10th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More fool you then.Come on, everyone knows that PEPE is a puppet of Argentina. And I might ( and I coin a phrase here ) “ the whole world supports us in thinking that ” Just a little poetic lisence here
Your problem is that your “World” is 30% the decisions of your Prime Minister and 70% the decisions of your wife...
Jan 10th, 2014 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie (#223) why is it that you - and your xenophobic friends - resort to name calling and deviationg from the subject every time you are cornered ? you conveniently try to avoid the issues by spewing hatred and nonsense..
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one question unanswered by all of you : forget the Brits for one second and tell us all why you think Argentina has any right over the islands ? please reply with proven facts, o'wise just keep quiet.
I don't know if Argentina has any Rights over the islands.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But I do know Britain doesn't.
@221 & 223
Jan 10th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Och aye. Expats. Uruguayans who have a nice wee hoosie on the shore of Holy Loch and a second on the Isle of Bute. No quite what one would expect from a far left Socialist who obviously doesn't keep up with what's happening in his ain country.
country
Hence Uruguayan believe in your words...
Jan 10th, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It makes sense, redpoll.
It really does.
Uruguayans believe in your words and not in their chosen President because you know of a guy that has a house next to a lake.
Of course, how could I miss that!!
@225 Stevie,
Jan 10th, 2014 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) What are your reasons for saying that Britain doesn't have any rights in the Falklands?
Keep in mind that 99% of us here believe that they do.
Also keep in mind that Britain discovered & claimed these lslands many years before Argentina existed.
Also keep in mind that Argentina has consistantly lied about its involvement in the Falklands & that has been proved many times.
Finally realise that we do NOT want Argentina to have anything to do with OUR lslands.
2) You might like to comment on Argentina's “claims”to South Georgia.
Bearing in mind that Britain also claimed the lsland long before Argentina existed & that no Argentine has ever lived there.
lt is also over 1000kms from the Argentine coastline & l'm sure that there are no women & children there for Britain to kill.
l await your revelations, Stevie, with bated breath.
Can you do these simple tasks, Stevie, without the usual boring accusations?
@225
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie
“But I do know Britain doesn't.”
You have no evidence for that.
Whereas many of the posters here can point to it frequently.
Just stating you know isn't very convincing.
However, if you can definitively prove that the UK have no rights whatsoever historically concerning the Falkland Islands, I'm all ears.
If the UK had no rights the Argentines would not have been asked to get their asses off the Falklnds in 1982, by the UN.
Evidence please.
229 Pete bog
Jan 11th, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hang on, Pete.
Stevie is too busy to reply, he's trying to run his Braziliero puppet on another thread.
I'm sure he won't get back to you, even though he is “sure”.
Wait for the enraged monkey to start screeching and flinging his pooh, though!!
@230 Troy
Jan 11th, 2014 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm going to be in for a long wait if I expect Stevie to be capable of proving that the UK has never in the past, any claim on the Falkland Islands.
If his answer is that the UK do not have a claim on the Islands now (i.e. 2014), because they belong to people that were born on the Islands (oh, what a radical concept), I will not argue.
Stevie, yr #225 contains about the first thing you've said that has 'some' sense to it : “ I don't know if Argentina has any rights over the islands. But I do know Britain doesn't”. If you read back through the last 300 years of history, you will find out that various European powers, at one time or another, actually occupied parts of the islands, sometimes simultaneously ...for the most part, the British. That's an undisputable fact. Despite that, the Brits are quite prepared to accept the right of the islanders to self-determination - if that's what they want.......but that's something Argentina doesn't want to accept, because IF they did, what would your nondescript presidents use to distract the Argies from their own pathetic domestic situation.....think about it....
Jan 11th, 2014 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0225 Stevie
Jan 11th, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for your input............
Now let's have an answer from someone who is not a complete retard.
231
Jan 11th, 2014 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm going to be in for a long wait if I expect you to be capable of proving that the UK has ever in the past, any claim on the East Falkland Island.
Now remind me again...what is the capital of the Falklands and on which island it is located and where is the greatest concentration of population...?
...and what historical right they have to be there and was this the settlement that was established by Vernet with authorisation from Buenos Aires...?...Yes or No?
Expat Stevie,
Jan 12th, 2014 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I was here . I had some admiration for the Tupamaros as RRobin Hoods against the corrupt government of Pacheco
The country was in a complete mess with 500% inflation. Then they started executing people, including a peon de campo who had come across one of their tatuceras (hideouts), so I turned against them.
You are one of the lucky ones with parents exiled rather being dropped over the Plate under Plan Condor
So just thank your lucky stars you have survived and live in Dunoon
235
Jan 12th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does Stevie live in Brigadoon?
Well I never!....
Brigadoon? Fantasy land? Tir nan Og more his line methinks.
Jan 12th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But dinna fash yersel. Hes no a Mackem/Yakker living in Hartlepool to be sure
237 redpoll
Jan 13th, 2014 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's easy for Stevie to play out his fantasy of being a SUPA TUPA when never lived there and his friends just nod their heads in Dumbass agreement.
Guys like Think string PaulGullibleCedron and SteviePuppet along, with false idealism, as it serves the “K's” purposes and keeps her thrives in power.
Did you notice that Think is giving us 'Government News Releases' - “weeks” before the official announcements? :-D
Did you notice the personality change in Stevie when Think returned?
Jan 13th, 2014 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was quite a sight. Like he finally found focus and direction again.
Such an extremely weak personality.
Stevie has gone extremely quiet when we've asked him for evidence that the Falklands & South Georgia are Argentine(or not British at any rate).
Jan 13th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can it be that his handlers in the Argentine Secret Service cannot come up with any actual evidence?
Well, who'd thunk thet, MaryLou?
Steeeeeeeeeevie, halloo, we're waiting for some answers.
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