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Falkland Islands: Tory MPs furious with Cameron over aid programs to Argentina
Even when there has been no official reply from London to Argentina's message to mark the 181th anniversary (January 3) of what it considers “the usurpation of our Malvinas Islands”, there was a strong reaction from Tory MPs when it was revealed that UK contributes several million pounds in aid programs to Argentina. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesPaulCedura
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Where did you read that Britain gives Argentina Aid Money, the Telegraph?”
There you go.
See. The British ARE giving you money.
Isn't that nice of them? It's certainly something that might benefit a few ordinary Argentinians each year.
I suppose you must be able to find something nasty to say about it.
Am I right?
Tbis needs to stop immediately.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Only to be expected of lily-livered Politicians.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0No backbone at all.
The whole shower of them should be horse-whipped.
Timerman states ‘Perhaps this was the expression of a failed attempt to confuse the world as to the colonial and military occupation of Argentine territory, and the result of the lack of legal and historical arguments.’
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0He should read the following!
http://www.falklandshistory.org/false-falklands-history.pdf
Disgrace indeed!
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina should not be accepting blood money!!
Stevie
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0You do realise that in the course of the past two months you have turned from a “massively undereducated ignorant angry Uruguayan student” to “Internet troll”.
As every single one of your ludicrous racist arguments have been torn apart, and you have time and time again been made to look foolish, you have ceased to make incorrect political comment but slumped into trolling.
Well done...you now exist in the dirt with Jose malvinero, Dany Bugger, Trolly and marcos.
It took time but your true level has been reached.
Haha should see how much blood money Uruguay sucks up every year.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does that show a lack of morals as well as poverty?
Monkey
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain to me what I could have possibly said or done in order to give you the impression that I ever spent an ounce of a second caring what you believe in, think of or manage to conclude...
Argentina receiving foreign aid from Britain. How humiliating for them.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglolatino
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Between you and me, you are the poor one...
Maybe you should try having a job before talking about poverty...
They need the aid and you never know may help to bring about barely adequate goverment rather than hopelessly incompetant.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Until Argentina winds itself in, all aid money earmarked for Argentina should be diverted to the Falklands , even though a few £m won't make a huge impact on the deep water port, it would help.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0We should say sorry, but while your country bullies a country of 3000, they will get the money instead.
This would prove a great diplomatic raspberry.
Why is the aid needed when CFK owns a huge property empire? Let her fund her own people if she is so passionate about them.
You could also stop stealing it, giving Argentina Afghan money makes no sense...
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0ofcourse you don't care...thats what is funny.
your entire racist indoctrinated rants make you appear a loon. Whereas before you appeared to believe in them yourself..you have now decended into trolling...it fun to watch your humiliation.
Stolen Afghan money...pmsl...what a loon.
Monkey
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm having a great time reading your delusions, keep them coming.
I will also continously expose your hypocrisy, mainly because I can. I've been around you lot enough to read you like open books.
And yes, stolen Afghan money. That's what you lot do. Steal.
You are thieves and common criminals. You attack sovereign nations, steal their natural resources, killing women and children in the process.
Want to hear it again?
#15
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have asked you this before. What natural resources have we -the UK -stolen from Afghanistan ?
No vague dogmatic mantras BUT actual identifiable, verifiable natural resources, amounts and values. You may also identify the UK companies involved. I am sure that you can supply this information instantly.
Human life to start with. And isn't the Afghan mineral reserves amongst the largest in the world? Or was that before you lot started looting?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0We also have rebuilding contracts and that growing opium market, which seems to grow like every other narco market, in the presence of yanquis...
I wont even mention the vast NG reserves...
Stevie, you are a deluded liar. If you believe that tripe, post some evidence, otherwise shut up... The only thing I remember about Opium farming is our troops helping to divert farmers away from it by growing pomegranates or other crops.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Put up evidence, or shut up your racist bile.
@17
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And how would you be able to steal NG from a foreign country, I mean look at Argentinas success at producing NG. A country like Afghanistan does not have the investment that Argentina has. Yes we have drilling rigs dotted around the country, massive amounts of mining equipment, and raping the country. You must be about ten yrs old if that, if you think that.
Biggest cocaine producer: Colombia
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Biggest cocaine consumer: USA
Biggest opium producer: Afghanistan
Biggest opium consumer: USA
USA has 7 military bases in Colombia and a massive force in Afghanistan.
Not a coincidence.
You lot? You are vassals...
@20
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely if the USA/UK wanted cocaine they would not be in Afghanistan they would be in Columbia, dickhead, by your own admission
This is what I imagine speaking everytime I read one of Stevie's bile-filled wackjob rants :)
Jan 06th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/sep/12/blobfish-world-ugliest-animal
These a push in DC to stop funding nations that don't like us or do what we want.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And its about time!
I love how Stevie aims his bile at a general 'you lot'. He doesn't stand for anything and has no discernible morals. He just has a deep hatred of anyone he considers successful.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie, you should go back to sleeping at the controls.
Let's not be too hard on Stevie, all he has done is follow the standard Malvinista trajectory, which always ends up in vituperative gringophobia when all else has failed.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cognitive dissonance is a terrible thing.
Stevie
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is the sort of thing that confirms to people that your jealousy overrides any thinking process.
Life must be joyful for you.
Stevie... Fray Bentos.. that's all you lot ever gave the world. That gives your nation loads of influence. Where do you work..control desk of a sewage farm, is that what makes you angry, being an impoverished failure..you do continuously spew out bile and shite so it figures :-)
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17 Do you think it would be a good idea if you backed up your brainwashed mumbo-jumbo with some good old-fashioned FACTS? You start by gibbering about “human life”. What “human life”? The UK supplies a contingent to ISAF. ISAF was mandated by UNSC resolution 1386. Since we have to bear our own costs and put in our own natural resources in the shape of our personnel, we could do without that. But it is a UNSC resolution. Just to remind you, UNSC resolutions ARE binding on members. A small matter that your pals in argieland overlooked when it came to UNSC 502. You might note that ISAF's mandate to free the Afghan people from oppression and terror. Curiously, only ONE latam member of the UN contributes anything. Little El Salvador. Now, personally, I don't consider terrorists or oppressors to be human. So there's no question of “human life” there. Perhaps you could provide details of the immutable law that says women and children can't be terrorists or oppressors. In which case, all women who have acted as suicide bombers and all women and children seen with weapons must be figments of our imagination. Perhaps you could comment on the situation in uruguay between 1966 and 1985? I believe your current president was very active in political kidnappings, “armed propaganda” and assassinations. So you'll know all about oppression and terrorism. Moving along to other resources, it seems that Afghanistan, in 2011, signed and oil exploration contract with the CHINA National Petroleum Corporation. In 2007, a 30-year lease was granted for the Aynak copper mine to the CHINA Metallurgical Group for $3 billion. The state-run Steel Authority of India won the mining rights to develop the huge Hajigak iron ore deposit in central Afghanistan. In a 2011 news story, the CSM reported, “The United States and other Western nations that have borne the brunt of the cost of the Afghan war have been conspicuously absent from the bidding process on Afghanistan's mineral deposits”. ?????
Jan 06th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course I work Stevie. My tax dollars make up some of the A$85 million in Australian aid to Latin America over the past 3 years.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most of it aimed at poverty reduction and education (sorely needed in some countries as proven time and time again on here).
No need to thank me. No, no I insist. It is the least a well managed and wealthy country like mine can do to those less fortunate.
Not bad for a vassal state.
@Stevie looking at Timerman's comments I take it you also agree that its OK to slaughter your own people with chemical weapons (Syria) which is the only country in The middle East that was threatened with military action,did he support Argentines throwing Argentines from military planes also??
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good grief little Stevie is turning into Little Tobie Brownshirt Bait, ain't he?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is that Stevie is thick. He knows his arguments are ludicrous and he knows he has made a fool of himself...so he has turned to trolling.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is an example of Stevie sytle trolling.
On the 6th June 1944 evil British, US and Canadian troops attacked the peaceful sovereign state of Vichy France. Women and children we massacred in this unprovoked bombardment against the peaceful Vichy French and their German Allies.
The nasty Allies only made this vicious attack in order to gain access to the mineral rights of France and the beautiful French coastline, and they also plan to steal the Nazi gold when their merciless onslaught heads onwards to Berlin, further slaughtering helpless woman and children on the way.
See Stevie...as you have proven, you can take any situation and apply a moronic racist slant to it...you carry on doing it, it doesnt wash with us any more than a rewriting of D-day would. Becaiuse you a a racist troll and a moron.
The more worrying thing Stevie is for you, wasting your time spewing racist indoctrinated ignorant bile on here must be taking you away from your plans to revolutionise uruguays energy and political landscape. We are all on tenterhooks waiting for your Nobel prizes in Physics and Economics...or perhaps you are just full of shit.
I know where my vote is!
Argentina - A Decade of International Isolation
Jan 06th, 2014 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.atfa.org/a-decade-of-international-isolation-editorial/
Bob...and what an inditment of Timerman. He has been a total disaster for Argentina. He has alienated friends, neighbours and allies. No wonder he is reviled everywhere, and, he is unfortunate enough to closely resemble Gollum !
Jan 06th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 033/34
Jan 06th, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I expect he would argue that he was only following orders.
@34 True - will he sue for libel? - Lol
Jan 06th, 2014 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Always worth having a gander at the ATFA website.
@35 Yes - just like all the others
#17
Jan 06th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You still have NOT answered my question. I am awaiting proof that the UK has stolen resources from Afghanistan. It has cost my country billions and about 500 lives so far for zero return.
All you reply with is unsubstantiated rhetoric.
In principle, aid should be given to whoever needs it, regardless of nationality. The only criteria being it should get to who needs it.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Taking revenge on the neediest section of the population, for the actions of their government, makes us little better than their government.
However in this case it would be appropriate to re-direct the money to developing the Falklands, for many reasons, not least because I would question how much get to where it’s needed in Argentina.
As far as the Malvinistas are concerned, it would still be going towards developing what they consider “part of Argentina”.
I'm well known in this site for my positions against CFK and her “gang”. She, and her “partners”, are a disgrace not only for Argentina but also for the whol South Cone.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But, I would like to remind both, Ian Liddell-Grainger and Tory Peter Bone, that the UK is using regularly Argentine Air Space on its advantage.
As I don't have the right to fly over London if the UK doesn't allow me, Argentina has the right no to allow a direct connection to the FI since flying over the Argentine territory is not a “universal and granted right”.
It might sound quite unfriendly but both, Ian Liddell-Grainger and Tory Peter Bone, must make figures firstly and estimate the cost of linking the FI with London compare to the FI to SA.
In addition, it seems to me that the money is being used to build long-term partnerships with Argentine future leaders. They might prefer to promote “revisionistas” leaders so they can show off their “hard line”.
@ 39 pgerman
Jan 06th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Direct flights from the UK to Fl will greatly increase as the oil boom takes effect. And this needs to happen, Argentina cannot be relied upon in this respect.
However Argentina closing its airspace would not stop flights from Chile or Uruguay, as it is not necessary to overfly Argentina from either country. The main effect would be on Argentinians visiting war graves.
I agree pgerman. The UK has always had a good sense of taking the long view. Having links with future captains of industry and potential political leaders in BA seems a perfectly sensible idea. I can't imagine it will make a great deal of difference either way as Argentina is going to be no more than a bit player for the forseeable future (and it might be much worse than that) but what is the point of having any diplomatic presence or British Council activities in Argentina at all, if we have no intention of ever wanting our relations to improve even a decade or two down the line? Of course we can call johnny foreigner ugly and stupid and get a nice editorial in the rightwing press but so what? What exactly does that get us?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Linking the FI with Continent while going to the UK is more efficient and cheap than using a non stop flight from the FI to London. That's the reason why it's the regular connection.
It's true that a flight from Uruguay or from Chile could eventually avoid using the Argentine Air Space but for political and diplomatic reasons Uruguay doesn't allow flights to the Islands and LAN Chile won't flight to the Islands if Argentina doesn't allow the route.
It will affect the visits to the Argentine War Graves but, you know quite well, that the main effect will be to make FI connections more expensive by far. Both Chilean people living and working in the Fi will be affected. The Islanders will also be affected and the UK Government will have to pay more pounds for a longer and direct flight from the Uk territory to the FI.
So, I would live things this way. In addition, promoting Argentine future politicians with new point of views is a good idea.
its the least they could do when they are pillaging our resources in the south atlantic.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What really bothers me is that comments of people like Troneas, Think, DannyBerger or Conqueror spoils any attempt of rational, and respectfull, dialogue in this web site.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42 pgerman
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes it would be more expensive, and not the best solution at the present time. However the oil business will not notice the increased cost in their budgets.
It is a situation that at some point will arise, and contingency plans are needed at the very least.
Future Argentine politicians with a new point of views is most definitely a good idea, however it is not for the British to promote them. Aid to the needy is ok, but show me a needy politician anywhere.
Yes why does Argentina permit a monthly direct flight from Rio Gallegos to their mythical Falkland Islands?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's have for intance the new “Insituto de Revisionismo Hisatorico Manuel Dorrego” that is led by politicians instead of historians and is affording (with public money) the publishing of books that “twist” history and promotes anger against the UK. If you are Peronist and you want to have “some press” all that you have to do is to write something against the UK.
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Having some money promoting politicians in the opposite direction of the “revisionistas” won't harm the UK, the FI and Ar gentina at all.
@42. “So, I would live things this way. In addition, promoting Argentine future politicians with new point of views is a good idea.”
Jan 06th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pgerman: Presuming that you are indeed Argentine based on past posts, THAT task starts with YOU and (not ~or~, mind you) your fellow countrymen of yours who would see normalization with Stanley as forward thinking AND more importantly, politically rewardable and praised TODAY.
Currently all your political hacks have to do is rant about “your” Sudetenland and East Prussia and they get instant street creed and, as per the plan and intent, domestic distraction from the Malvanistas in a pavlovian drool -- like ringing the bell in the classic experiment.
That proven tactic is not going to stop until people like YOU do something about it. Stop rewarding them for ringing La Malvinas Bell. Instead of obediently drooling maybe you-and-yours should bite them. That certainly would have given the original Pavlov pause!
@48
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are historical facts that put both of us in the current situation. We, both again, can ignore them or try to fix things. In some way it is something both of us must do.
Some months ago a group of public people, called “grupo de los 17” (artists, writers and journalists) wrote a letter with new ideas, point of views to the Argentine people about the FI. I didn't agree 100% with the content of the letter but if something new.
These are the kind of people that must be promoted. People with new ideas, in Argentina, in the FI and in the UK.
Britain gives up her back bone, at her own peril,
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We may yet regret appeasing these 3rd world little wannabies..
But alas, hopefully CFK will lose power, long before the British government gives em everything,
Hey Justa thought,
The British government is trying to get rid of millions of pounds of equipment from the afghan campaign,
Perhaps Argentina would like it all,
Just send your requirements to the ministry of defence,
c/o argentine defence department Whitehall 1212….lolol
sausages...
@48
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are historical facts that put both of us in the current situation. We, both again, can ignore them or try to fix things. In some way it is something both of us must do.
Some months ago a group of public people, called “grupo de los 17” (artists, writers and journalists) wrote a letter with new ideas, point of views to the Argentine people about the FI. I didn't agree 100% with the content of the letter but if something new.
These are the kind of people that must be promoted. People with new ideas, in Argentina, in the FI and in the UK.
@49
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed you're right. The Group of 17 are a brave bunch, but if anything the climate is even worse now than it was when they wrote their letter. You have to ask why exactly the Argentine political class persists in making the Falklands issue a zero-sum gum they cannot possibly win. Is it deliberate, or are they really this irrational?
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1450787-una-vision-alternativa-sobre-la-causa-de-malvinas
@48 The only fix that matters is the one driven by the Islanders. International law and the UN charter are pretty darned clear on it. They have overwhelmingly said “yes,” for now, to their association with Britain which seems to be the fastest and most agreeable track towards any independence should they wish it and have repeatedly said, “no, No, NO!” to colonization and annexation by Argentina well before 1982 (which according to “Axel” makes the invasion partially the UK's fault for explicitly complying[!] with 2065, something your governments refuse to do, hence vacating the resolution).
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the woman says “no”, she means “no.” Prisons are full of people who think otherwise (see my parody on what-not-to-do-at-a-parole-hearing analogy from this weekend for further demonstration, #101 in the :“Lion” thread).
Accepting that is the first step to turning the “Hell NO!” to a “no thanks, but we can be cordial, albeit cool, neighbors for now and we can experiment with mutual trade agreements,” which is probably about as good as Argentina is going to get from the Islands which given '82 and the recent childish behavior of your government is pretty darned good AND, mind you, what Sawle and Cheek were available in London to do when Timerman ran away (further vacating UN resolutions) and blew it (yet again to the CHEERS of your countrymen).
As for the Grupo de los 17, what then WAS the chunky milk that you were asked to swallow? You aren't going to agree 100% with everything. But at minimum the 17 should have been given 100% support not for the content but for standing up and challenging the status quo. At which point, a 2nd or 3rd or 4th grupo de los [increasingly more and more folk] can write their own statements and open the door a future of partnering (as opposed to annexing) the Islands as Nixon did to China -- because that sort of thing just isn't on your governments agenda and won't be until they are rewarded for acting like the leaders they should be.
If we used the very same rules, agreements, political ambition, and argy rule of law and perspective,
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We would be claiming Argentina is ours,
And funny enough,
Have Argentine full support over it,, ha ha .lol
..
@54
Jan 06th, 2014 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't remember exactly the letter but I remember having not agree with it 100%. Anyway as you mentioned I don't need to agree 100% with them. This is just a detail.
I need...we all of us need people that make us think about this matter.....people that “open our minds”.
37 Clyde
Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Stealing resources from Afghanistan - stealing opium for UK/US customers”
Clyde,
We have already hashed this out with Stevie, just 3 weeks ago!
He was insistent that we are there to steal the opium crop to supply our demand. He even went so far as to say, “ because the US wants a large percentage of its citizens and soldiers to be zombies” or something very similar.
The conclusion of his scientific research was to post one link that showed that when Afghanistan went to war with the US, Opium production increased.
Of course he ignored that civilian farmers need to survive in wartime and it was a great “cash crop” that the Taliban was selling to raise money for weapons.
I gave him 4 links from 3 different news sources to counter his 'scientific' deductions.
He never responded, but he did back off.
Now, 3 weeks later, he seems to think we have forgotten what an ass he made of himself the first time
LOL!!
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Jan 06th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If every Argentinian were like you , no wonder it is in such a mess. You will NEVER get the FALKLANDS dummy
Troll @ 57
Jan 06th, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are laughing at you, José
57
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does that even mean. Are you trying to say “shove your pounds up your arse you poofters”
That's not very nice of you. Talk about shitting in the hand that feeds you.
Chuckle chuckle
Has anyone worked out what the hell happened to Stevie over Christmas?
Jan 06th, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The last person to degenerate so quickly and completely was Nostrils. And that was a much slower process than Stevie's.
Toby at least has some entertainment value because he's batshit crazy. Stevie, meanwhile, is just spam - boring, monotonous, repetitive, pointless.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglolatino
Jan 07th, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0It just hit me you are a bunch of fascists with no regard for human life other than your own.
I tried sense bit it didn't work.
Now I'll just laugh at you. Blatantly.
Oh, Stevie...
Jan 07th, 2014 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Remember, “Stevie the Anarchist”?? :-D
Communists know very well what Anarchists are, the idealistic, but stupid stooges that they employ to tear down government institutions, schools, courts, transport. They carry out the war AGAINST THE PEOPLE, to destroy the fabric of society and create a vacuum of desperation and despair.
A vacuum to be replaced with Communism.
Stevie, the gullible, mindless, puppet on a string.
As Troy Tempest, I know a puppet when I see one !!
LOL!!!
55 pgerman
Jan 07th, 2014 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0If your 'new idea' is to cut off the Falklands air link to South America, then sorry to be the one to break it to you but it isn't new and it isn't much of an idea. Oh and it isn't dialogue, it isn't rational or respectful, and it isn't going to 'fix things'.
“As Troy Tempest, I know a puppet when I see one !!”
Jan 07th, 2014 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0You got that right...alrighty...
Many a true word is spoken in jest....try the mirror...
Thanks, A-Voice, our Dunoon Buffoon.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0You were so quiet after Christmas, we thought you'd been incarcerated.
“As Troy Tempest, I know a puppet when I see one !!”
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marina(Juliet)
O, wilt thou leave me so unsatisfied?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqOYEeAqYuM
“”“”You are thieves and common criminals. You attack sovereign nations, steal their natural resources, killing women and children in the process.“”“”
Jan 07th, 2014 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like the Argentines with Patagonia then Stevie?
someone get this bretard turd a world map, and if they still think Malvinas Argentina is part of lalaland shot him in the head for theft, piracy as well as ignorance.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#70
Jan 07th, 2014 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is your argument seriously “just because it's close to us, it's ours”. That would explain Argentina's history of theft and murder.
You, my friend, are an ignorant expansionist.
@55 Pgerman: The point being that as long as the 17 are met with silent nods behind closed doors or in the closets of peoples hearts, they are just going to be left hang. “Sepoys” as Malvanizi-Lite Axel Org just did in the other thread. As long as people like you don't stand up he and his kind of play-safe-by “tan shirt” will continue to carry water for the hard core Malvanazis and Fascists and your governments will continue to validate their demands for the mythical Argentine West Prussia because it is an easy way to distract from domestic issues.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a saying that dictatorships (and on a lighter and more relevant note note, BAD and immoral policies) fall once enough people realize that the people around them aren't keen on the status quo either. And that's where the 17 and what people should have done in response to them should have been.
The 17 should have been joined by a group of 18... then another group of 19... etc. There is a place in one of those groups for you even if as you say it's not 100% on everything... And until they are, nothing is going to change and Argentina will continue to look like embittered ex-nazis demanding their East Prussia, and raging every time people in their “Danzig” vote for something without their permission (or for that matter, vote).
what money?
Jan 07th, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0trusting in this newspaper is like trusting in the telegraph, the sun, the mirror, or our local versions: pagina 12, cronica, tiempo argentino, etc.
only the brainwashed could think this sh*t is true.
just google this new, you only can find it in this kind of 3rd class british pasquinade
#73 are you asking about the money that the UK gives Argentina? (sorry if not, I've missed some of the comments).
Jan 07th, 2014 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have a look here:
http://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/where/latin-america/country-cooperation/argentina/argentina_en.htm
This suggests that the UK has provided at least €0.9M with an additional at least €68.6M from the EC. Assuming the EC money comes out of the general EU/EC pot then this suggests around €10M comes from the UK (though this is difficult to estimate because of the way the EU funding works, a lot of money that gets put in comes straight back out).
So, yes, it appears the UK does give money to, an extremely ungrateful, Argentina.
Argentina really should stop receiving blood money. It's not right.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 074inthegutter
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look @73 Paul Cedron
“ Money? Where's our money??!! It's a lie !!”
Good job putting him in his place.
In his twisted way , I'm sure he's more angry that we did pay them. Doesn't fit his model.
What a 'victim'. *rolls eyes*
#75
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If some of the UK's wealth is “ill-gotten” then what about all of South America's? The entire continent was stolen from the original inhabitants, who were then mostly exterminated.
@74
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so they are making all this noise because britain sent 900.000 euro (more or less the cost of a luxury apartment) and we are extremely ungrateful.
we are still waiting for the gratitude of britain because of the 4.000 argentine soldiers, pilots and nurses who help you in ww2.
78 paulcedron
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, yeah, don't you remember that we covered that subject exhaustively yesterday - it was hardly a gift from the Argentine government that certainly did more to profit from us than help us.
@44 What really bothers me are smug, cowardly comments by “people” like you. There, I've given you the benefit of the doubt. Make no mistake, there isn't one single argie war criminal that I would give an amnesty to. There's about 40 million of them. Being Jewish didn't justify extermination camps. Being argie DOES. 255 British servicemen killed, dead, while argie war criminals danced in the streets. They should have been nuked. I would nuke the animals tomorrow.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57 Would you like to shoot yourself in the head? Before we do.
@63 You wouldn't know what “sense” is. Are you actually in latam? Can you give me an address that I can find you at. I'd really like to work out whether I can afford to travel to where you are and kill you. You are undoubtedly non-human and brainless. I don't see a problem. Where is it against the law to kill a zombie?
@68 What's the matter? Has “Think” abandoned your arse?
@73 It's not a “newspaper”, you moron. It's an agency. There are ways to reach “the truth”. And so I call you a moron. That's because you're a moron. It takes about 2 seconds to recognise you as being a moron. Morons are easily spotted. Trust me, you're a moron. Have you ever tried to progress to being a wanker? Assuming you have anything to wank. Sorry. You need to be a man for that. Not a huge chance of an argie being a man. Wonder why you didn't send your troops to compete at the Olympics. Really fast over a mile or so. Mind you, they did have the advantage of dropping weight. I don't think crapping every 20 feet was really fair. Still, divots will believe anything.
@75 Pay it back. Isn't argieland your “brother”? Is getting butt-screwed by your “brother” incest? Do you “gobble” it as well? Do you have a prize for “argie deep throat”? Can you do “argie deep throat” and “argie butt screw” at the same time? Bets that's where you're going this evening.
those 900.000 euro (lol) are hardly a gift from the uk govt.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in any case it would be an aid from the eu
Sure conq
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just don't take it out on your poor wife and kids...
#78
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see you ignored the fact that a significant fraction of the EC money probably from the UK via contributions to the EU/EC budget.
@47 pgerman
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems that is pretty much what is happening now, only it’s called the Malvinas Secretariat.
Certainly the “grupo de los 17” did a brave thing, however if they had been promoted by the British, or connected to the British in any way, they would have been labelled as cipayos and traitors even more than they were.
#83
Jan 07th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How dare you quote facts to Mastermind !! It does not fit in with his theory of the world. It seems that TTT has more reincarnations than Dr. Who.
Interestingly.
Jan 07th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0when we come out of the Euro gravy train,
most, if not all over seas aid will stop .
at least for a while?
LOL at the Argy basket cases....no pride...no honour...no shame...no guts...no class..and no balls...Like all welfare cheats they don't care where they can score a couple of bucks.....Beggars...!
Jan 07th, 2014 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 080
Jan 08th, 2014 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0When I find you, I shit you to blows.
88 Jose
Jan 08th, 2014 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ja ja ja ja ja
@88 José,
Jan 08th, 2014 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0There, there, dear.
Go & lie down, there's a good chap.
Nursey will be along with your medicine, soon.
“I shit you to blows.”
Jan 08th, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually sounds scarier than being blown to shit.
Bahahahahahaha
God Mercopress has been funny the last couple of weeks.
88 José
Jan 08th, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You and who’s army, you big girlie!!!!
Having seen the bullying tactics of Argentina I can honestly say that should ever meet one of the childish idiots I would simply
Jan 09th, 2014 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Shit them all to blows.”
Take that to el banco , hombro's.
@84
Jan 09th, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since the beginning of Mankind those who promoted different poin of views and new ideas were qualified as “traitors”, “enemies”, “criminals”,
“heretics” etc....this is part of the task of trying to open other people minds.
I prefer people with new ideas, people that try to make new things, people that try to find solutions to old problems.
@94, well like I said earlier, the only way to end that is grow the 17 into a number that matches the people who approach that sentiment (and I suspect it's not going to max out at “20”). Until then, the goosestepping Malvanistas and people who see agreeing with them as the “safe” road or way to curry favor with a given,net that sees pandering them to be a good distractive strategy are going run the agenda to Argentina's ruin and a goodly sized block of people (uh you) are just going to keep their heads down not knowing that the person next to them agrees with them that the Malvanista “strategy” / unending tantrum is just never going to work for Argentina.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dude, you gotta stand up. I don't think you'll be alone.
@94 pgerman
Jan 09th, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There can never be any “new ideas” that do not accept on the views of the Falkland Islanders that are they do not want to be part of Argentina.
It is simple - the Falkland Islanders to not want to be part of Argentina.
@96
Jan 09th, 2014 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0New ideas are this..new things. At the beginning are not easy to accept. But all of us will have to make the efford to change our minds if new ideas work. “All of us” includes the islanders.
@97 The islanders got new ideas rammed down their throats in '82 at gunpoint. You will have to remember that. They DO. They also see how you celebrate it on that coin that shows an iron claw around the Islands (we talked about that before, remember?), how your people accidentally let it slip that you'd do it again if they weren't defended. Simply put they don't want you there, and international law and the UN says what they say goes. You can't force them to say yes, nor can you pretend they only have a “right to shut up.”
Jan 09th, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile, they've had lots of other new ideas made available to them due to their positive and forward relationship with London, compared to their “reformed but unrepentant” stalker in Buenos Aires. One that I think looms inevitably on the horizon is independence and commonwealth membership, and that will always look a heluvalot better than forced annexation to people who treat them as people to be conquered, occupied, coerced or just “ethnically cleansed.” And boy, that just isn't a good look for Argentina when seeing all of this from the outside.
Until Argentina realizes that the Falklanders have a UN-affirmed right to say NO, Argentina will and deserves to get absolutely nothing. They will never get the Islands to control. Which is why your government won't even meet with them since it will put the final nail in the 2065 coffin in their eyes (even though they vacated it years earlier in 82, repeated afterwards and once again this February).
At this point, you have really only ONE conduit forward with the Islanders. A peer-to-peer trade diplomatic and relationship, with some facilitation from London but primarily between Buenos Aires and Stanley. They are willing to try this new thing. That's why they were in London in February. Timerman ran seeing that his bluff was called, your “street” did NOTHING to chastise him for that childish failure and empty stunt.
When you are willing to try truly new ideas, you know who and WHERE to call.
@97 Pgerman
Jan 09th, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Islanders have stated that they do not wish to change their current status.
Argentina has only one policy in mind that is to take sovereignty control of the Islands without out taking the views of the Islanders, the British policy is to allow the Islanders to choose their own and their Islands future.
The only new idea would be for Argentina to amend it's constitution and drop it's claim of sovereignty.
The Islanders should not be forced to accept these so called “new ideas” of yours.
Its simple, the Falkland Islands belong to the Falkland Islanders and it is up to them to decide on their own future, not Argentina or Britain.
How is “i shit you to blows” any different than “take that to el banco, hombro's”?
Jan 09th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take that to the bank, shoulders... That shat me to blows...
“ I shit you to blows.”.... works for me.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have T-shirts ordered with this on the front and the argentine flag on the back
“All your base are belong to us.”
Classic.
@100
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bloody Hell Stevie, why don't you talk to the new“ Brasiliero ” as he is now coherent. He could give you the name of a Good “ Professora of Ingles ” if one existed. Your rant at @100 makes no sense in Ingles
Don't you worry your little head. It makes little sense in Spanish as well...
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But of course, Stevie.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And indeed why should it?
Malvinistas make little sense,
Argentina's ridiculous “claims” make no sense either!
Something that we have to live with---idiocy
@94
Jan 10th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”I prefer people with new ideas, people that try to make new things, people that try to find solutions to old problems.
That's exactly what the Falkland Islanders have done since 1982 as the UK have followed de-colonisation mandate by devolving more powers to the FIG, and taking their interests into consideration taking into account the provisions of the UN Charter.
Thus allowing the Islanders to formulate new ideas while the Argentines seek the old idea of Imperialism.
The Islanders have sought discussion with the Argentines to discuss mutual conservation and the idea of trade (meaning the Argentines benefit too).
But these new ideas are rejected by Argentina which makes every effort to live in the 1830s.
#103 Stevie.....
Jan 11th, 2014 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0No Need to get personal , our kid.
By mentioned the fact that some has a little head you are insuating that this is a bad thing.
When my daughter was born she had what you might call a little head and although it was perfectly in tune with the rest of her body , it was to be considered to be little in comparison to say , for example , a grey african rhino's head..
Both my wife and I were grateful of the fact that she wasn't born with a “ massive head” ( my wife considerably more relieved than I , as you can imagine due her still being in the stirrups) so your comments with regards to people having small heads are both ill-inormed and conceited.
On a more cheery note , a second Christmas parcel arrived for me today , albeit late , and in it was a a Christmas card from my Mother , one from my brother and I am also now the proud owner of not one but two pairs of Christmas socks. One pair with a snow-man on and the other with a red-breasted robin , both wearing Christmas hats.
I intend to save them for when I get home as I need to wear two pairs of socks as I recently broke in my Converse desert boots and they seem to given a tad too much.
Can anybody recommend a good movie for this evening as I am having a night off from the gym and we have found a guy in the recreation tent who will loan us movies so we can rip them and return them.
I watched “LONE SURVIVOR” last night with Mark Wahlburg and it is a very good movie although it has a few of us scratching out heads as there are no trees in Afghanistan that I have seen.
I will google it later and see if there are any forests over here but like I said , I haven't seen any.
On a final note , will the person who keeps drawing a big penis on my frozen gator windshield give it a rest. Your skills are not required and the hairy balls look unrealistic to say the least. and don't get me started on the jizz firing out of the end...pathetic and childish....and your head is too small.....
waait a minute.....hmmm...
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Jan 11th, 2014 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0See that... Fresh blood will sort that kind of stuff.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0And I don't mean vampire style...
How do you mean Stevie?
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