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Police acted lawfully when they shot a man whose death triggered London's 2011 rioting
British inquest found that police acted lawfully when they shot and killed a man whose death sparked a wave of rioting in 2011 in the worst civil unrest in the country in decades. Mark Duggan, 29, died after he was shot by police who suspected he was armed at the time. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNo mention of Duggan's gang affiliations not the gun found metres away.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any loss of life is tragic, but this man was part of the criminal world of drugs and guns. What was he going to do with the gun he had in the taxi, was there a chance he could have used it on another civilian and 'executed them'.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where did his mother think he got his money from, understandably she views him with rose tinted glasses, but she should take a good hard look at herself and the way she brought up her son.
And to those people that rioted on his behalf who ruined the livelihoods of entire families and 3 people were killed, in support of a gun carrying thug and criminal, they must be very proud of themselves.
I wonder how many shop will be destroy, how many tennagers will day and how many buldings will burn in the new saga of the UK riots.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0A unnarmed guy executed in the middle of the street.
What a joke of a Island.
I told you guys, that is what happend when you procreate with your family members.
J waiting for the marcos,s of this world to come on and scream English Murder etc! The Pilice have a difficult job - just like the Servicemen- they have information the guy is armed - and you do not carry a gun unless you are prepared to use it - they have milliseconds to decide - was that the gun he threw away-has he another one to grab-or what?
Jan 09th, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Logical and CORRECT answer- we are not 100% sure - but we do know he is a dangerous gang member etc and may shoot us- therefore simple- we shoot him.
His mother simply needs to ask herself - Why did her son carry a gun at all and thus BREAK the Law- Full Stop end of discussion.
AH! - I see someone has already started! Warteiner- do please ask your own Police what would they do?
A unnarmed guy executed in the middle of the street.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0sounds very similar to a lot of south American countries,
and the rest of the world,
sticks and stones come to mind..
Sick of seeing this kids family on the news channels saying they’ll fight on for justice for their little angel Mark. He was well known to the police, leader of a gang and had just been to collect a gun when they stopped him. The Police did the public a service, chances are if he wasn’t stopped he would have ended up killing or hurting someone else. The Police should be praised and not condemned.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done!
Justice done for all the people he killed maimed and those whose lives were blighted by his drug organisation. Well done British coppers! In comparison to throwing Nuns out of aircraft over the River Plate its minor and it WAS tested in a court with a randomly selected jury. We don't need any lectures from RGs who have so much to be ashamed of. There isn't enough characters to list it.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those police officers have family too, they are peoples sons and daughters, they shot him because they had no choice. If you play with fire you get burnt. Well done MET police, the British people completely support you and hopefully this will be a lesson to anymore prospective gangsters.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The man was known to carry a weapon and was linked to the Man Dem gang have been involved in at least ten shootings and murders.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The police did not know that he had thrown gun out of the taxi.
As tragic as it is for his family he was a drug dealer who carried a gun, if you are known to carry a gun you give the police few options when you confront them.
@3 Warty
Jan 09th, 2014 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I wonder how many shop will be destroy, how many tennagers will day and how many buldings will burn in the new saga of the UK riots.”
So far, that'll be none at all, none at all and none at all in the new saga of no UK riots.
“A unnarmed guy executed in the middle of the street.”
Who the police KNEW had bought an illegal firearm earlier that day, which was recovered from within a few meters of his body.
The family will never believe they have 'justice'. Justice is exactly what they have but they don't like the verdict. The mother has been in the victim stance for too long to change now. She is a grieving mother and will never accept the truth about her son; a leader of a murderous gang who had just bought a gun, had it in the vehicle with him, was pulled over in a police operation, did not co-operate and was shot when the police had to make a split second decision when they believed he was about to shoot at them. I feel for the officer who had to make that choice.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Not sure where you get the “unarmed” bit from. Tossing a gun 6 foot away doesn't make you “unarmed”. And if he was “unarmed” why did he try to escape? Did the police KNOW, for certain, that he didn't have another weapon? How do YOU know? While we're at it, don't the argie police regularly execute indigenous people, for no other reason than that they are indigenous, and get it covered up?
Jan 09th, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing that SHOULD have been done was to shoot dead the rest of the rioters.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They were cowardly scum then and remain a wart on the UK, just like the Peronistas on Argetine.
“Wart on his weiner” knows all about that, don't you girl? Coward to the end.
Apparently this man wad graded as the 48th most dangerous man in Europe, a known Gangster and a Criminal. That does not mean that he deserved to be killed, but it does go some way too explain why an armed officer discharged his fire arm. No doubt a risk assessment was done prior to the hard stop and Duggan was assessed as being a real threat to life or limb, the officers would have been briefed on that risk.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'the 48th most dangerous man in Europe, a known Gangster and Criminal'.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The mother reminds me of Alex's mother in 'A Clockwork Orange'.
She exhibits the same total suspension of belief - that her son was a vicious serial criminal.
Her son was judged - extensively, over three months, by his 'peers' (or, in his case, his betters).
But judgement is merely the process by which ordinary humans (or 'Plebs', as they are more accurately known) test 'The Accused' against the Law.
The LAW was applied to the evidence and circumstances, and the Judgement was made by the common man; not by the president, the Senate, the judges, or the Administration ... by 'you and me', 10 'good men and true'. Well, that's the general idea.
The process of judgement is a closed and secret process; we shall never know the 'weighing of the scales of justice' that these ten people undertook, but the Law works on the assumption that the jury operated according to the tenets of probity - assessment with honesty. They were advised of The Law that pertained in the case, and they judged honestly.
The Judgement was that the police - the upholders of The Law on behalf of the nation - were not considered by the jury of the people to have acted outside the law.
Had the jury been made aware of Duggan's 'Previous' (his criminal activities, his past and his convictions), the same judgement might have been arrived at sooner
... but that is neither The Law or the Judging that pertains in England.
It's legal in England for the police to shooting and kill innocent men. Especially if those men have a criminal skin colour.
Jan 09th, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All is normal.
Oh fuck off you idiot! What the police in Latin America never soot anyone I suppose?
Jan 09th, 2014 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your making yourself look an even bigger fucking dick than usual!
Honestly, what the hell happened to Stevie?
Jan 09th, 2014 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The transformation is absolutely amazing. And comical. He just gave up.
He's become Sussie with better spelling.
“All call signs this is one. Victor one moving onto plot.”
Jan 09th, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“One this is two, victor spotted, pulled up near Bravo.”
“One this is three. Victor spotted, pulling up near Bravo”
“One this is four, Victor spotted, near Bravo.”
“One this is two, Alpha one exititng Victor towards Bravo.”
“Two this is one confirm Alfa one armed.”
“One this three, confirm Alfa one armed with hand gun, approaching Bravo”
“One all call signs, standby, standby, standby”
“One this is two. Alfa one is coloured, repeat, Alfa one is coloured”
“One to all cal digns abort, abort, abort. All call signs return to station”
Fucking idiot stevie, that's how it works is it?
Not when they legally murdered a Brasilian tourist, it wasn't...
Jan 10th, 2014 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh fuck off. get real, bombs going off in back packs all around the city, trains and buses, people being killed and maimed. A fuck up by a regional police forc a young man tragically killed, and you turn it in to a state assasination.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'll ask you again. how many people are killed by mistake in Latin America?
How many innocent people are killed by the police on your subways, not during a terrorist attack, but every day of the week?
Set your own house in order before you judge ours!
Doubt I will get a true answer because it does not meet with your political agenda .does it?
Why are you constantly bashing Argentina, if you believe in that only a clean house entitles an opinion.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shut up and start cleaning or, better enough, take it.
Clean up our house you serious! jesus christ, you have the bare faced balls to tell us to clean up! You, a fuckinfg south american!
Jan 10th, 2014 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Caps on. I am gonna shout!
HOW MANY GOD DAMN COUPES HAVE YOU HAD IN YOUR UTOPIAN SOCIETY LATAM IN THE LAST CENTURY, HOW MANY OF YOUR OWN, THATS RIGHT, YOUR OWN PEOPLE! HAVE YOU KILLED. SORT YOUSELF OUT FIRST LITTLE MAN, BEFORE YOU EVEN ASPIRE TO COME UP TO OUR LEVEL. YOU ARE WAY, WAY, WAY BELOW OUR STANDARDS AND WHAT BEATING YOU UP, “IS YOU DAMN WELL KNOW IT TO”
Clean up our house, funniest thing I have ever heard, “Hey Fred, when was the last century you saw a firing squad in the High Street?”
You are above no one, you uneducated little man.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0You think you are, but you are nothing more than one in 7 billions.
Save your belly button complex for your wife.
@18 Anglotino
Jan 10th, 2014 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Honestly, what the hell happened to Stevie? The transformation is absolutely amazing.”
I'm wondering if someone else with less intellect has taken over for “Paulcedron/Stevie/Guzz”.
But, there was a good poster, CabezaDura, who was warning “TruthPatrol” to “Get outta here, get outta here, this board is going to ruin your mind if you don't get away from it”.
Maybe that is what has happened to ol' Guzz. His posts used to have more substance to them.
Tugged a heat string did it, shame. the truth often has a way of doing that.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0We were behaving five hundred years ago, the way you were behaving fifty years ago and are still behaving today.
Of course your not afraid of the Brits, they are not your enemies, your own people are, ever since you got independence, you've been fighting yourselves. lol, call me a liar, but it's the truth!
Tell me clever man. how many external wars have you had? Hmmm. none.
How many internal wars have you had?
Sorry off to bed, it would take to long to go through them all.
So, you put your house in order, then perhaps we will take your advise.
Truth hurts does'nt it?
Stevie- Do you know WHY that Brazilin guy ran from the Police? I will tell you - not because he was innocent!
Jan 10th, 2014 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0He ran because he was in the country ILLEGALLY - his Visa had expired and he had done NOTHING about it! So he ran because he through they wanted to arest him and deport him!
Naturally as he ran - the police thought he was the terror suspect they had been told about - and acted accordingly.
Sad for him and his family - but inevitable
@25 Bushpilot
Jan 10th, 2014 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I know. It is like they finally blow a fuse when the world just refuses to conform to their warped views.
But Nostrils was a slow descent into paranoia. Stevie obviously underwent a trauma over Christmas. Perhaps it was Think dying? Wife leaving? His wife Think leaving?
@ 18 Anglotino
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The transformation is absolutely amazing. And comical. He just gave up.”
Yes, I have been expecting this for some while because this is how he went in his “Guzz” persona towards the end.
After some months “Stevie” appeared but I soon sussed him for “who” he was.
With a bit of luck it won’t be too long before we have a break from this phase of his “life” though his rants will get worse as will his logic before he chucks the towel in.
Typical Tupa, no forethought whatsoever.
Islander
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Visit England should write in their folders that not renewing ones visa is a crime that will trigger the death sentency. Extra-judicial, of course.
Normal...
Wasn’t that Brazilian guy killed just after the 7/7 bombings?
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0From what I remember he was running from police in a crowded Tube station wearing a back pack, they thought he was a suicide bomber so they couldn’t take a chance and took had to shoot to kill?
Tragic what happened but at the end of the day it was the guys fault for acting suspiciously at a sensitive time in a public place.
You lot always find excuses as to why it is legal to extrajudicially execute people with a criminal skin colour...
Jan 10th, 2014 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is it because he was of your skin colour that you are upset?
Jan 10th, 2014 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another dead criminal in Afghanistan. This time a 4 year old boy whos crime was to leave his house. This one was a bit darker than the one in the article but make no mistake. He was for sure a future terrorist.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My daughter is 5.
I look at her and pain strikes me.
Murderers.
Bloody murderers.
Violins, anybody?
Jan 10th, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cover your eyes while playing it, still it chances nothing.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Murderers of kids, invasors of peace.
Spitting on you lot would be to waste good saliva.
Duggan was stinkin' drug dealer - how many people (unfortunately, stupid) - wound up dead after consuming the shit he sold on the streets ? the police did the right thing. One less criminal to contend with.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you arm yourself do not expect to be treated without the same response.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why did this thug buy a gun, his supporters would have us believe it was to protect himself against the armed police state in the UK and he was really just an nice peace loving person that would not hurt a fly.
All parents will tragically suffer when one of their children die, for what ever reason, and will want to hit out at whatever caused that death.
They will be blinkered because of this - we all think (hope) our children could not be so bad. The problem is that many radical groups will latch on to their misery and extort it for their own agenda.
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