MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands oil industry will have its 'Made in USA' dock facility in Stanley harbor
The Falkland Islands budding oil and gas industry advanced a further step this week when the Falklands' Planning and Building Committee gave planning permission to a temporary dock facility (TDF) in Stanley harbor that will provide logistics support to exploration drilling. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCue: plans for holding/destroying the dock, by both sides, in the (unlikely) event of an Argie invasion.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems there's plenty of businesses that are willing to do business with the Falkland Islands.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0No matter what Argentina threatens.
How are those court cases against oil companies going, Argentina? :p
Jan 10th, 2014 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina, the loser in all this.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Other countries now taking up the slack.
They had their chance, but tore up the agreements because they didn't want to share.
They wanted it all,
And now get nothing! lol
Could have been built in Argentina, never mind I am sure it won't sink like the Argi navy.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I said on another thread, anything the Falkland Islanders want or need they can get from the USA. They don't need the Alba nations for anything.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Jan 10th, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I agree, but could have gone to the UK for the TDF but of course Noble Energy is after all an American company.
What about those Argentinians who have savvy and who'd like to do (sovereignty -accepted) business with Falklands- and can't, because of the present powers behind the CFK Jacuzzi. It's a waiting game.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8
Jan 10th, 2014 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you are right, nothing will happen until the wicked witch of Argentina goes, which I hasten to add will be sooner rather than later.
Why does everything have to have an acronym? Is there anything wrong with referring to the ”temporary dock facility (TDF)“ as ”the dock“? Shouldn't we have expected the wording in italics to use ”FI“ for Falkland Islands, ”FPBC“ for Falklands Planning and Building Committee and ”Sh” for Stanley harbour?
Jan 10th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA' dock facility in Stanley harbour,,
Jan 10th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does this now mean , that Argentinian police will arrest any of these Americans if they dare land in Argentina,
will Argentina sue the USA , stop trading with them,
or was all the threats by CFK just all mouth..lol
And consulates in Stanley of the USA, and yes, Chile will be needed sooner than later.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
They must be very desperate to announce this news.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about the British Tory Telegraph poll?
Should the Falkland Islands be British or Argentinian ?
British------ 24.03 % (6,353 votes)
Argentienan ---- 73.82% (19,514 votes)
Shared sovereignty --------- 2.14 % (567 votes)
#13 A poll that was widely advertised in the Argentine media to a population that has been widely* brainwashed into believing that an evil colonialist empire has stolen an integral part of their existence despite the evidence to contrary.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YOU must be really desperate to even suggest that this poll has any kind of meaning. Face it, Argentina has no rights to the Falklands.
@13
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos, you are completely missing the point. It isn't a question of being British or Argentinian, it is about their right to detemine their own future with or without the interference of Britain or Argentina, it is called SELF DETERMINATION. If they want to be Independant, then so be it. I have not heard one Argentinian blogger on here saying that they agree that the FALKLANDS can decide their own future. Do you want to decide your own future or do you want someone else to decide it for you?
#13, the results of a poll in which the same person can vote as many times as they want, are not reliable....and , am pretty sure that 99% of the votes in favour of Argentina - 74% - came from Argies living in the UK...which is strange - if they are living in the UK, and they hate the Brits so much, why don't they just f**k-off back to the Argentine, to CFK and all her radical supporters ?
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't expect an answer to post @15 I know the answer.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 The “standard answer” from the Malvinistas is of course that they do not constitute a “people”. They are just an “implanted” european population. Just like the Argentines themselves. Only 600,000 persons of the 40,000,000 now living in the Argentine Republic are descendants of the original Amerindians. All other are “implanted”. Using the “Malvinista logic” almost no Argentines have a right to self determination”.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They just had a poll in the Daily Mash on whether Marcos Alejandro is a complete twat or not?
Jan 10th, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 093% agreed that he was a complete and utter brainwashed twat
5% agreed he was a twat
2% were from Argentina and answered Que?
There were no votes against.
The Daily Mash pointed out that the poll was open to anyone and everyone could vote as many times as they like.
A resounding result for common sense, just like the Daily Telegraphs poll.
@19
Jan 10th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can I vote? A twat is useful, have used one a few times, Marcos isn't LOL
Why are Falklands dealing, With USA I believe they wanted Britain to hand Falklands to Argentina, feel free to correct me if I am wrong
Jan 10th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 hjarta
Jan 10th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are wrong and have been corrected.
@3
Jan 10th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“How are those court cases against oil companies going, Argentina? :p”
Ditto.
@5 golfcronie
“Could have been built in Argentina, never mind I am sure it won't sink like the Argi navy.”
Yes-they lost out on some work there- it would be lucky to get from Argentina to Stanley without sinking.
@13
“They must be very desperate to announce this news.”
Progress is desperation?
Just wait until the permanent deep water port is built.
@21
“With USA I believe they wanted Britain to hand Falklands to Argentina”
You will find the USA take a neutral stance on the Falkland Islands, not a pro-Argentine stance.
Let us not forget that in 2007 Nestor Kirchner voided a 1996 UK/Falkland - Argentina hydrocarbons deal.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sad.
13,
Jan 10th, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do you realise that if your precious Argentina,
ever gets its hands on the Falkland's,
it will cost Argentinians billion and billion just to bring you lot up the Falkland's standards..
Briton,
Jan 10th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty sure that they'll never get their thieving paws on the Falklands.
They are shit scared of HM Forces.
And when their country implodes, they'll have plenty of other things to worry about.
lsolde ,
Jan 10th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very true indeed .
Argentina's Economic Policies:- The Definition of Insanity
Jan 10th, 2014 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.atfa.org/argentinas-economic-policies-the-definition-of-insanity/
all this noise because of a “marina flotante” lol.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we have one very similar to that in the boating club.
This is just the very small start.
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Massive revenue, massive wealth for these islanders that so many of our boys gave their lives to save from colonial slavery in '82.
Read it and weep argentina.
@29
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“we have one very similar to that in the boating club”
I'm impressed its still afloat-your navy should attach weapons to it to replace your ships that roll over and sink in port.
31
Jan 10th, 2014 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0warships? who cares. and we dont even have 1 now.
we use those marinas for sailing boats and yachts.
your warships are not in the best condition either, are they?
http://rt.com/news/uk-nuclear-subs-defense-402/
Much like the UK, the US has no real fear of Argentinian threats of working in Falkland waters. And if they attempted anything remotely threatening to US nationals a pair of US and UK frigates side by side would send the Argentine navy paddling as fast as they can back to the mainland in whatever tin can contraption the Argentine “navy” could muster.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12
I've been wondering for some time now when consulates might be established in Stanley by other nations. I think it would be a safe bet that the US and Chile would probably be the first to do so if London was agreeable to it.
that colony is a joke.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0they must think this floating dock is the solution to stop being a poor little island in the middle of nothing.
keep dreaming kelpers
#35 Keep dreaming about getting your grubby little nationalist thieving hands on the Falklands.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Royal Navy ships are fewer in number but far more advanced than they were in 1982. Many feel uncomfortable in the reduction in overall numbers but as Argyland is not perceived as being a credible threat to UK supremacy in the South Atlantic, there is no urgency to build or deploy additional units.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@34
Jan 11th, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 01) The FALKLANDS are not a colony
2) If it is “ a poor little island ” why worry your pretty little head about it
3) The floating dock is for the Oil companies to service the Oil Production.
VERY WELL DONE FALKLANDERS
Paul Cedron, when I read your #34, I though exactly the same way golfcronie did - then why in hell are you so concerned with the Falklands ? logic and coherence don't seem to be your strong points, do they ?? and whether YOU like it or not, in the near future the islanders will enjoy a far higher standard of living than you ever will.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 034. You're making fun of this when your gov't puts out PR about tiny o/g investments or factories that will employ 100 people being built.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like you are jealous to me.
so funny the kelpers ask why we are concerned about the little islands.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the only thing this tabloid and its readers do is to be concerned about argentina
the islanders should be more concerned about improving their genetics.
tiny island, tiny genepool
giant country,
Jan 11th, 2014 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0small brain.
says it all really.
#40
Jan 11th, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sweetness. You do jest?
Your larger gene pool has produced KFC and Toni Lopez etc, and has also been infected with an implanted outbreak of the nasty strain of Timerman.
Choose your mate very carefully!
@40
Jan 11th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“tiny island, tiny genepool”
Yet the FIG runs the Falklands (i.e. more wealth per head capita) than massive tiny brained Argentina runs Argentina .
Your gene pool isn't impressive either to produce CFK , Gollum, the failed senator (ha ha) Filmus and the Trolley Dolly.
If Argentina's gene pool did not have so much Spanish DNA, it might be producing people with less talent to self destruct.
Get some more native Indian genes in your make up-you will do better ;-)
One day,
Jan 11th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands will be the jewel in South America,
.
#44
Jan 11th, 2014 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's been a jewel in the south Atlantic for many a year.
back to guzz and his blood dependant trolling
Jan 11th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 034 Paucedron- you are so out of date- We ceased being a Colony a generation or so ago! A Colony( as the world knows them) is where a territory and its people are ruled by another country and often against the will and wishes of the people of that country.
Jan 11th, 2014 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We- the Islandes opulation who are on the electoral role- rule and run OUR Country - the Governor is appointed from London as the Queen,s representative here - like her - he signs laws etc - hge has ZERO power into how they are formulated and agreed - all that is done by our elected representatives in the Legilslature.
The Governor and through him the UK Govt only have power when it comes to issues of foreign Policy and defence. In all other areas we have internal selfgovernmnet. We control and receive 100% of all revenue from Fisheries and Oil Licences etc - UK receives ZERO.
Now of course if we were to be taken over by Argentina then Yes indeed - the Islands would be a Colony - of the old Imperial Type - ruled by a foreign power against the wishes of the population who live here.
Get the picture?
Trolley
Jan 11th, 2014 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For once, you throw up an interesting point.
The oil industry will bring a whole new dynamic to the Falklands. The first thing it will bring them is economic independence, the second thing is long term prosperity. It is an excellent thought, that come 2020 the islands will be producing around 100,000 barrels of oil EVERY DAY.
However, you point is interesting for the following reason:
The oil industry will bring hundreds of workers, the guys directly employed on the rigs and FPSO, but also a wealth of engineers, geologists, environmental specialists, and a representatives of the whole supply chain.
Now, of course, these new people will be representatives of their own nationalities, be they Americans, British, French, German, Italian, Canadian, Chilean or any other Nationality.
But it is not impossible to consider that some of these newcomers may find partners amongst the existing islanders, and indeed, as you so delicately put it....add some variation to the gene pool.
So, there's the thought.
Whilst the Falklands has always had “new-comers”, be they military, business or people marrying islanders from outside, and certainly there is no evidence of inbreeding depression on the islands which you disgustingly eluded to...but, the oil industry probably offers the greatest volume of long term newcomers ever to the islands.
So, had Argentina wished to win the hearts and minds of the islanders, what a fantastic opportunity. Imagine the impact of even 20 marriages between islanders and Argentine engineers, geologists, business people or oil workers.
Imagine that Argentina could have showed the islands their professional side. Imagine that Argentina could have showed their integrity and worked with the islanders for mutual prosperity.
Who knows where we might have been in a generation.
Pity Kirchner had a hissy fit, tore up the opportunity, and showed Argentinas true colours......yet again.
Missed Opportunity..LOL
P.Cedron, your #40 really shows what a minute brain you have...I don't think anyone is really concerned what happens IN Argentina - that's your and CFK's problem - the issue here is the Falkland Islands, and the fact is that the Kelpers don't need you, nor do they want anything to do with you...why insist ? Why don't you focus on your own problems at home - plenty of them - and let the the islanders get on with their life ?
Jan 11th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are no “ problems ” in Argentina, as someone said before on one of the other threads. They sit in a corner swaying back and forth mumbling “ everythings ok ” anyway someones elses fault.
Jan 12th, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Why? It is IMPORTANT news. It is important news for Falkland Islanders as it shows how THEIR community is progressing. It is IMPORTANT news for people around the world as it shows that WE are giving our support to people who will not be bullied, inimidated or beaten by a state more than 14,000 times their size. It is IMPORTANT news for argieland and those that support it because it shows that they are LOSING and that there is nothing they can do about it.
Jan 12th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your other point is just dumb. We know you're dumb. And mentioning that “poll” farce just confirms it.
@15 If you mean recently, I'd agree. But there are Argentines, as opposed to argies, who do agree. Thing is that they don't go in for repeating it ad nauseum like argies do.
@29 Where did you steal it from?
@32 Our warships are fine, thanks. They regularly sail all over the world. Even down to the Southern Ocean. That's both the ones you can see, and the ones you can't. Ever wondered what's sitting out there under the sea? Right now. This minute!
@34 Let's get some things straight. Calling you an educated, intelligent, sane person doesn't make you one. There's three adjectives in there that are incorrect for a start. The noun is questionable! In the same way, calling the Falkland Islands a colony doesn't make it one. In fact, the Falkland Islands were a colony from 1841 to 1981. But now, as from 2002, it's a self-governing British Overseas Territory. On the subject of poverty and location;
GDP (PPP) per capita Arg US$18,552 FI US$55,400.
And it isn't in the “middle of nothing”. It's in the middle of an ocean. But doesn't argieland illegitimately claim “territorial integrity”? There I can agree. Argieland IS nothing!
@40 Argieland - Big territory, small genepuddle. Be careful. Removing unwelcome genes in the argie genepuddle would necessitate exterminating 93% of the population. Your last “cull” was in the 70s. Isn't time for another one?
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Jan 12th, 2014 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Colony definition....
a. A group of emigrants or their descendants who settle in a distant territory but remain subject to or closely associated with the parent country.
b. A territory thus settled.
2. A region politically controlled by a distant country; a dependency.
Falklands.....A group of emigrants or their descendants who settle in a distant territory but remain subject to or closely associated with the parent country.
Sounds like a colony of Brits to me...
“”“””Describing Argentina and Venezuela as “economic basket cases, with high inflation and weak government finances,” Luhnow warns of the painful lessons these countries have ahead. “Brazil is becoming Argentina, Argentina is becoming Venezuela, and Venezuela is becoming Zimbabwe,” he quotes a Brazilian as saying. Like all nations, Argentina has had a choice of which path to follow. Rather than follow the so-called Pacific path (such as Mexico, Colombia, Peru and Chile), Argentina has enacted short-term populist policies that have progressively led to a spiraling economic disaster for its citizens. - See more at: http://www.atfa.org/argentinas-economic-policies-the-definition-of-insanity/#sthash.dMLir7Qh.dpuf “”“””
Jan 12th, 2014 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh how sad for the european colonists of south america - otherwise called Argentinians.
Hows that colonisation of Patgonia going Voicey? Or, remind me, when did they indigenous population there vote to become a member of your country?
they didnt? really?
You conquered them by military action?
Really?
erm... isnt that colonisation? ;-0
How's that colonisation of North America going Anbar? Or, remind me, when did the indigenous population there, vote to become a member of your country?
Jan 12th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or Hawaii....Alaska..(No you ask her)
How about them Southern States....did they vote to become part of the USA?
Or was it......
You conquered them by military action?
...The land of the (enforced) Free..and the home....of the Brave....;-)
why would you honestly want something,
Jan 12th, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0under UN rules , you would have to give independence to in the end ,
why waste billions of dollars, whilst your own county is heading down the drain,
CFK is fine, she can sod of with all her billions, and you lot with have to carry the can .
AVoice 52. Do please explain to me the close association you reger to-
Jan 12th, 2014 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I go to UK - I require a medical health Insurance just like if I went to Argentina or USA. I am not entitled to UK Health Care Free.
I have the same basic right of entry into UK - as does an Argentine who holds a british Passport - and quite few do - and I have no more rights than that.
I go to the Bank in Stanley here and ask for Britsh Currency to go there with- I pay a commission on purchase as it is a Foreign Currency - the Falklands are OUTSIDE the Sterling area - purely for practical reasons we follow UK Bank interest rates etc - we could set our own!
But at least I can buy Foreign Currency at the official rate!!!!!!!!!!!!
Somebody from Britain wants to come here - they are 100% subject to the same Immigration rules as if they were from any other nation - they have to have a job and employer to come to - otherwise they can only have a short term vistors permit in their passport.
Britain does not enforce any rule over me in any way shape or form - if she does please describe it to me?
Suggest you think again about the definition of a Colony - remember there were NO settled indigenous people here to be forced out by any European settlers.
While living in Argentina, I remember that many “Argentinos” as well as “Anglo-Argentines” used to joke that the Argies were Italians that spoke Spanish and wished they were English....many a true word spoken in jest..
Jan 12th, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 056
Jan 12th, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do me a favour....
Save it for those that are not aware that You as a British subject are entitled not just to visit the UK, but if you so wish, move there... live there... get housing benefit, national health and any other benefit that any Brit can claim...
There are no restrictions on how long you can stay there...you go straight through customs as a British national....not the foreign queue....
Can foreign nationals do that?
“Somebody from Britain wants to come here - they are 100% subject to the same Immigration rules as if they were from any other nation - they have to have a job and employer to come to - otherwise they can only have a short term vistors permit in their passport.”
...Exactly you apparently have more rights and freedom than a UK national living in the UK.....
So accept the plain and obvious Fact that you and the rest of the islanders are a pampered British Colony that only exists on the whim of the British paying public....without them you would be Argentine..
..These facts are undeniable...know your place....
When those islands start paying their way and are not a financial burden on the UK public...then I'll start listening...
Until then ....talk to the hand Benny...
Sounds like the best of both worlds Islander1.
Jan 12th, 2014 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kudos.
@58
Jan 13th, 2014 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Islander1 is a FALKLANDER not a British subject.
Voice- You have still failed to tell me where is that Britain tells me what to do etc in my own country?
Jan 13th, 2014 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0As regards who pays for who - The historical records show that the Falkland Islands have been financially Independent from UK as regards money to run the normal expenses of a Govt since the late 1880s - some 130 plus years ago!
We remain so today. For a number of years - like other british territories and Independent Commonwealth Countries we were from time to time awarded Assistance towards certain capital projects - not just us - many Independent Commonwealth countries - but never have we been financially dependent on UK for about 180 years.
In the last 3 years alone the british Economy has benfitted by over £5 million of jobs and materials and equipment as a result of the oil exploration programme. The next 15-20 years are projected to see some £3-5BILLION pounds spent on exploration and development here - and most of that will be to the benefit of the British economy in jobs, materials and supplies and equipment.Most of that is down to Argentine stupidity - had your side been less pigheaded - a lot of that business would naturally have gone to Argentine businesses etc!
So where is the cost to Britain? Defence? a mere £70-100million that would NOT be much less if the troops etc were not here - they would still be in the forces,fed housed and trained etc. here they can due valuable 3-service training, very difficult elsewhere - that is why there are likley to be more troops here in future for short times - on training exercisies.
AS regards a foreign national entering and settling in the UK- of course you can - all you need to do is get there and shout “Asylum” I am threatened in my home country!!
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Jan 13th, 2014 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0British subject...British Citizen, same thing, just a name change...since 83...
“Though the term British subject now has a very restrictive statutory definition in the United Kingdom—and it would be incorrect to describe a British citizen as a British subject—the concept of a subject remains in the law, and the terms the Queen's subjects, Her Majesty's subjects, etc., remain in use in British legal discourse.”
...see...
....shit by any other name would smell so sweet....well maybe not sweet, but still shit...
'When those islands start paying their way and are not a financial burden on the UK public...then I'll start listening...'
Jan 13th, 2014 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, Voice, it's you who should prove the Falklands are a financial burden on the UK public. You must provide evidence that the amount taxes and/or other revenues collected from the UK public would be less if the Falklands had never been British.
@52:
Jan 13th, 2014 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0If this is your concept of a colony, could you please explain what is morally wrong about the very existence of colonies?
Yeah seems Australia is a colony now!
Jan 13th, 2014 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0And New Zealand. Canada too. Even the US when you look at it. Though parts of it might considered a colony of Ireland perhaps.
Must be something missing from that definition me thinks.
@58 A_Voice
Jan 13th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Save it for those that are not aware that You as a British subject are entitled not just to visit the UK, but if you so wish, move there... live there... get housing benefit, national health and any other benefit that any Brit can claim...”
Incorrect we have to live in the UK for 3 years before we could get benefits.
Thinkitdover tried the same divisive argument but in a slightly more gentle and subtle way. Look..... if we are going to spend billions on aid and pointless wars on behalf of ungrateful foreigners, a few million protecting our own kith and kin isn't a problem. If the UK benefits from trading with the Falkland Islands and I'm sure it will then great.
Jan 13th, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@A_Voice (58)
Jan 13th, 2014 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“know your place....”
That is a bit of an ironic statement. All of the effort and time Falkland Islanders put in while debating with Argentines about the Falklands is educating them on the reality of what actually happens in the islands. Argentines seem to think they know better when the are 1,000 miles away and have never visited the islands than the islanders themselves.
It is the ignorance and arrogance that is instilled in Argentina as a nation that makes them to talk down to the islanders like we are second rate people with no human rights (no right to self-determination).
A_Voice, you are wrong. Simply put. And acting like an arrogant idiot and patronising Islanders does not enforce your comments and statements, it only makes you look like an arrogant idiot. You cannot claim or boast to know more about the Falklands, than the people who were born here or live here.
Educate yourself because you look foolish.
M_of_FI, Voice's “know your place”, is typical of a tiny brain trying to assert itself....his gibberish is hardly worthwhile reading, other than to have a good laugh...
Jan 13th, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 069
Jan 13th, 2014 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No I believe..what is typical of a tiny brain is using a fictional tough hero character's name to reflect how you would like to portray yourself on a anonymous based forum...
Was it a toss up between Jack Reacher...Jack Bauer and John McClane???
...what a fanny....your posts are more Jack Shit....I think that name just might stick...;-))...like...shit to a wall....
you should invest that money in building schools, colleges, unis, in hiring professeurs, etc.
Jan 13th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that is the only way to stop being a parasite of the uk
@ 71 paulcedron
Jan 13th, 2014 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For “world expert on everything” you don't really know a lot do you.
Where is your proof that the Falkland Islands are a parasite of the UK ?
There are excellent schools on the Falkland Islands, any student that wishes to go to college or university can in the UK fully funded by the Falkland Islands government.
Damn! Leiard beat me to it.... well said Leiard.
Jan 13th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(66) Benson
Jan 13th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say ( to Mr. A_Voice)…:
”Incorrect we have to live in the UK for 3 years before we could get benefits.”
I say…:
I believe that the same rule applies to ANY UK citizen that has been absent from UK territorry for more than 5 years… Ergo, Mr. A_Voice is NOT incorrect…
(68) M_of_FI
You say ( to Mr. A_Voice)…:
”Argentines seem to think they know better when the are 1,000 miles away…”
I say…:
Well…...............
I’m Argentinean and I know that the Malvinas/Falklands are less than 200 miles from the rest of my Country… So I guess I know better…
(70) A_Voice
I can see why you do recieve so much “FlaK” from the Kelpers...
If there’s something them modern Kelpers dislike is eating seabirds and hearing the “Naked Facts”... (The Oldtimers were quite different though.)
The “Naked Fact” of the 2,000 of them costing their English brothers a fortune in “Thiefence” every single year... (100 Million £, my left foot…. 6-700 million £ would be a much more realistic calculation.)
The “Naked Fact” of the 2,000 of them going to cost their English brothers a fortune in lost business & goodwill in the whole of Latin America....
The “Naked Fact” of the 2,000 of them being a prolonged appendix of some of their English brothers’ archaic colonialist ambitions in the Southern Hemisphere…
The “Naked Fact” of the 2,000 of them being completely controlled by the English Government in all significant matters… (I’ve lost count of how many times their request of becoming a “Tax Haven” has been utterly denied by the Crown)
74 Think
Jan 13th, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dagnabbit Mr Think....I had them all by the balls..I was waiting for a few others to have their say.....before swatting them all....
...as you say, they are not keen on facts...;-)
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5 million in jobs..revenue to the British coffers...some verifiable figures and not your pluck a figure from the air opinion please....anyway 5 million ...whoopee do!...compared to...how much has been spent on the Islands since 82..?..A rough plucking one out of the air figure will do....How about a Billion?..more?
64
.....“If this is your concept of a colony”
...not my concept...the dictionary concept...
68
.....“You cannot claim or boast to know more about the Falklands, than the people who were born here or live here.”
Redpoll knows a lot about Bees...yet he is not a Bee....
Also I must inform Professor of Egyptology John Baines at Oxford University that Egyptians are likely to know more about Egypt than he....
“Educate yourself because you look foolish.”...no I think it may be you that looks foolish...
@74
Jan 13th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fact Argentina is over 400 miles from the Falkland Islands. And I said 1,000 miles in reference to the vast majority of Argentines living in the River Plate. I am told this is the case as it is too cold for Argentines in the South... makes you wonder how you people will adapt if you ever colonise the Falklands.
@A_Voice/A_Fool
If an ancient Egyptian who lived through that time and was around now would possess a great deal more knowledge and information than someone who claimed to be an expert and wasn't around then (e.g. John Baines). That is my point A_Fool.
76
Jan 13th, 2014 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”If an ancient Egyptian who lived through that time and was around now would possess a great deal more knowledge and information than someone who claimed to be an expert and wasn't around then (e.g. John Baines). That is my point A_Fool.”
How ancient? 5000 years old?
..and this ancient, is he a scholar..most people go about their lives blissfully ignorant of their heritage...
Your point is as ridiculous as you...how many of those islanders have been around 180 years....most of them were interested in only sheep until the economy was rescued by fishing licences...Courtesy of the British Navy...
.....Bennies ...historians/scholars indeed...don't make me larrf...;-)
(76) M_of_FI
Jan 13th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“ In fact Argentina is over 400 miles from the Falkland Islands”
I say...:
192 miles to be exact... Do you know how to use Google Earth....?
You say...:
“The vast majority of Argentines living in the River Plate.”
I say...:
Do they teach that at FICS......? “IN” the River Plate...?
You say...:
“ I am told this is the case as it is too cold for Argentines in the South”
I say...:
Ask Kelper “Islander1” about his time on a Estancia Santacruceña.... Colder and windier than the Malvinas he says..... as we like it down here in Patagonia ;-)
Voice, #70 is too stupid to waste time with. Good riddance, ass-hole !!
Jan 13th, 2014 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your concept of a colony is by no manner of means the only available one. When people condemn the very existence of colonies, they almost always have a different concept in mind. And you have not answered my question. What is morally wrong about the very existence of places which are governed from distant capitals? What is so bad and sinful about that physical possibility? Do you believe in a twisted version of the Aristotelian theory of natural places?
Jan 13th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 079
Jan 13th, 2014 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...yeah..I'll give you 24 hours to come up with a better retort than that...
...ever get the feeling that you keep coming second best with these little tête-à-têtes...?
....out classed...you are dismissed..close the door on your way out....;-)
(79) & (81)
Jan 13th, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRKjY9NijY
:-)))
Good evening, all.
Jan 13th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l see that sr Think has surfaced again.
And as usual is trying to stir the pot with the assistance of his new sidekick, sr A_Voice.
Trying to drive a wedge between the UK & the Falklands.
How transparent, Think.
You'll have to do better than that.
So, terrible Think, you want the UK to abandon the Falklands.
Well, we might need a protector, who would you recommend?
Let me guess, ah Argentina? Not on oh devious one.
l can think of many countries that we'd like to be associated with & Argentina is lower than last! lol!
Anyway, what business is it of yours, to rush in to defend the UK taxpayer?
lf you are that concerned then you(Argentina)should refund, in full, the UK's cost of recovering the Falklands from the invading Argentines.
Hypocrite.
You really don't get it? Falkland Islanders know more about the Falklands than you or other Argentines.
Jan 13th, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know more about the Falklands than you. My knowledge is based on close to 3 decades of living in the Falklands. It is based on seeing things with my own eyes. It is experiencing Falklands events and being involved with them. It involves my career as I work in the Falkland Islands public sector.
What is your knowledge based on? Argentine curriculum and Google.
I rest my case.
(84) M_of_FI
Jan 13th, 2014 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yet............ You don't even know that them Islands you are squatting on are mere 192 miles from the rest of Argentina...
And yet........... You don't know that the climate on them Islands is milder than in most of the rest of Patagonia...
What is your knowledge based on? The Encyclopaedia Britannica?
@74
Jan 13th, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know what all the fuss is about. Argentina has ensured it will never get what it wants. Which is exactly what it wanted.
@75 and 81:
Jan 13th, 2014 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have not answered my questions. I would venture that you, not Jack Bauer, are the outclassed party.
What? Tinkavoicedover trying to drive a wedge between Falkland Islanders and Brits........again. Not for me to tell him how to waste his time but he might as well forget it.
Jan 14th, 2014 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Think (85)
Jan 14th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have checked the great circle distance from the Falkland Islands to Argentines, and it is over 400 miles.
Your two examples of trying to prove I know little about the Falkland Islands is more about Argentina than the Falklands. Why don't you ask me a question that is solely about the Falklands? Maybe politics. Or business. Or infrastructure. Or Camp. Or sport. Or the economy. Or Government. No, the choice you make to try and prove I don't know much about the Falklands is the weather in Patagonia.
I have told you what my knowledge is based on. Shall I repeat?
You are only proving my point Think/A_Fool.
89
Jan 14th, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mmm..... a question solely pertaining to the Falkland Islands.....
It's a small place...so everyone must know everyone else...
Got it...
....do you know Isolde and is she tasty or what?
Hahaha...you may think it's a silly question, but I've noticed that none of the supposed islander posters appear to know the others...
No camaraderie...no greetings...no “hey Joe Bloggs how's the sheep doing” or “hey islander1 did you see the folk off that cruise liner today” or “hey M of FI were you at the public meeting today about...the so and so...”
Nothing...zilch...I would have you all sussed in a heartbeat ...if I was an islander....
Weird is what I say....
#81, so now you're giving me an ultimatum ?.....what a 'macho' man ....still don't have time to waste on you..
Jan 14th, 2014 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 091
Jan 14th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OMG!!!....Look how slow this guy is.....
24 HOURS.....Jack Bauer...
Hahaha....the one person that should have got that one...and didn't....
What do you think...Mr Think...;-)))
....have I got me a live one or what?
#92, I “got” your joke alright...pretty weak....how many neurons d'you have left after 'thinking' it up ? two ?
Jan 14th, 2014 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 093
Jan 14th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh No!... it gets even worse...first pretending to have got the joke....evidently by his post @91....
...and now confusing brain cells with nerve cells...is there anything you do actually know?
Give it up...you are no match for my “ Little Grey Neurones”...;-))))
(89) M_of_FI
Jan 14th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“I have checked the great circle distance from the Falkland Islands to Argentines, and it is over 400 miles.”
I say...:
Didn't know you used a “Great Circle” to measure distances in Malvinas...
The rest of us, in the outside world, measure distances through straight lines.....
Do yourself a favour......
1) Open Google Maps.
2) Activate its ”Distance Measurament Tool”.
3) Locate the Island you squatters call West Falkland.
4) Measure the distance from its southern tip to the eastern tip of Isla de los Estados.
5) Wupti…… 186 Miles.
6) The eastern tip of Tierra del Fuego…?…: Wupti….: 215 Miles.
7) The eastern tip of continental Argentina…?..: Wupti….: 260 Miles.
All neat, straight lines between two points.....
(90) A_Voice
:-))))))
May I include sweet Monty96 in that inquire of yours?
And Honoria , my kelperette musical soulmate in Jethro Tull….
# 94, Voice, a nerve cell, or 'neuron', IS a brain cell.....by the crap you manage to think up, looks like you don't have many left, and those that you do, are probably located somewhere up your ass...
Jan 14th, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 096
Jan 14th, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lesen und verstehen....
”Neurons are nerve cells that transmit nerve signals to and from the brain at up to 200 mph. The neuron consists of a cell body (or soma) with branching dendrites (signal receivers) and a projection called an axon, which conduct the nerve signal. At the other end of the axon, the axon terminals transmit the electro-chemical signal across a synapse (the gap between the axon terminal and the receiving cell). “
GLIAL CELLS
Glial cells make up 90 percent of the brain's cells. Glial cells are nerve cells that don't carry nerve impulses. The various glial (meaning ”glue”) cells perform many important functions, including: digestion of parts of dead neurons, manufacturing myelin for neurons, providing physical and nutritional support for neurons, and more. Types of glial cells include Schwann's Cells, Satellite Cells, Microglia, Oligodendroglia, and Astroglia.
Neuroglia (meaning “nerve glue”) are the another type of brain cell. These cells guide neurons during fetal development.
...you were saying?
97, I don't have to say anything, except for the fact that you want everyone to know that you can access google or wikipedia....the problem with you, nincompoop, is that you try very hard to impress everyone, when the truth is you don't know your ass from your elbow....now there, I've given you a chance to lecture me on how your asshole is the most important organ in the body...
Jan 14th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 098
Jan 15th, 2014 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0...another dumbass that obviously doesn't know Jack Shit...you might have said..“Oh I didn't realise 90% of the brain is made up Glial cells and not neurones” and saved a bit of face...
I already knew before I posted and verified with the facts...
..and you did what?...babbled more shit....
..anytime you feel the need to look like a complete uneducated moron...let me know...
24 Hours...right over the top of your flat head....Jack Bauer...a classic...;-)))
90 A_Voice
Jan 15th, 2014 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“hey Joe Bloggs how's the sheep doing”
:-))))))))))
@90 A_Voice,
Jan 15th, 2014 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0You'd like that, wouldn't you?
Personal inside information that could be used to identify specific people.
l've no doubt that Argentina has got agent(s?) on the ground here.
Anyway, how do you know whether we know each other or not?
We could be all members of the same Coven, for example.
You know nowt & ye'll be told nowt.
FYI, A few years ago an obnoxious, insulting malvinista who went by the name of Martin Fierro, was identified by his Facebook entries & mocked so much that he stopped posting.
Good riddance as he was a thoroughly disagreeable person.
Good try A_Voice, but you will have to do better than that.
(101) lsolde
Jan 15th, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Feeling a bit paranoid today chère Isolde?
One knows the identity of, at least, three of the most diligent Kelper posters in here.....
One has even given his/her name voluntarily...
But.... Has one ever mocked any of you, squatters...?
See you at the Chandlery....;-)
@71
Jan 15th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“you should invest that money in building schools, colleges, unis, in hiring professeurs, etc.
that is the only way to stop being a parasite of the uk”
The Islanders built a new school over 20 years ago.
No need for colleges and unis-Falkland islanders get sent to these in UK FREE of charge.
The Falkland Islands are not in debt (in fact, the opposite) and employ British (and other nationalities) people-that is the OPPOSITE of parasitism.
Unlike Argentina which is one of the largest parasites the amount it bums off other countries.
99, I do apologize Professor Voice.......any more lectures ??
Jan 15th, 2014 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have all noticed how very efficient the Argies are at deflecting. First class, trouble is they cannot engage in serious debate as they are always shot down in flames.
Jan 15th, 2014 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@102 Think,
Jan 15th, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not at all Cher Think,
l just don't trust malvinistas or Argentina in any way, whatsoever.
We all know what you want & what you're trying to do(& we despise you for it)& l, for one will not make it any easier for you.
Au contraire, l will willingly throw a spanner in your works & laugh at your confusions.
You mock & insult us continuously, Thinkus Horribilus.
Why, even in your last post you called us “squatters”, when in fact, we are not but you are.
Your countrymen murdered people then squatted on their land.
Can you not see how hypocritical that you are, Think, my boy?
Something is eating at your guts & it is not the Falklands.
Why do you hate us so, Think? Perhaps you have a shady past?
Anyway, we are here & you are not, & thats all that matters.
10 years time the FIG can buy the argentine goverment.
Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well everybody needs a hobby bit like playing sim city with the settings set to hard.
Country should function big lots of resources no wars or insurgencys enducated population if Argentina lived up to its potential be the islanders would be knocking on the door to be part of it as its heroically mismanaged no chance.
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