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Fears in Brazil: police group apparently involve on vengeance killing rampage

Wednesday, January 15th 2014 - 00:09 UTC
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Twelve people were killed in the Brazilian city of Campinas, the second biggest in São Paulo state, on Sunday night with police investigating if the murders were linked. All of the murders occurred during a three-hour period in the Ouro Verde area, in the city’s periphery, and were followed by the torching of three buses and a car by hooded men. Read full article

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  • Captain Poppy

    Ohhhhh Brasiliero

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @1
    Brasiliero will be ecstatic by this news, can't wait to hear if this typical
    behaviour of the police ( if it is the police ). I would certainly try and persuade people to avoid going to the World Cup. I wonder how many of the footballers will suddenly have health problems.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Another warning. Avoid Brazil. Nothing “good” in Brazil. No-one is safe in Brazil. How to see the World Cup and Olympics in safety? Television. Stay home. It's cheaper and safer.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    #2, with the Brazilian legal system geared towards protecting criminals - because the “politically correct” human rights' pussies have taken this issue to extremes - the police, every now and again, tend to take the law into their own hands ...it works very well...the cops know who the criminals are, and no one's gonna miss them.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Agustin Tomas O'brien Caceres

    For those who still want to travel to Brazil during the World Soccer Games. Even locals are flying out of the country. I was raised there. I speak the language as a native and I don't want to go. 5% of chances of being killed and even burnt alive as they do there often nowadays. A lot of state and private criminal organizations such as PCC, CV, PT, Foro de Sao Paulo, MST, FARC, Via Campesina, Campora, and other criminal organizations will all be ready to commit as much as crimes as they can during that moment of big tension in that country. Here in South Florida, lots of Brazilians are already coming during the Soccer Cup. They are right.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    What a shame. But still need to die 500 000 bandits for us to have peace.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2014/01/15/fears-in-brazil-police-group-apparently-involve-on-vengeance-killing-rampage#comment298883: If you believe that the PM actions are the result of recent 'politically correct' policies then you need the explain why such actions where standard operating procedure under the military administrations - which were most certainly not politically correct.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Hepatia (#7)...I was referring to a very specific and most recent episode ...but yes, you are right - the PM has a long history of doing justice with their own hands...but let's not get into the Military's actions, otherwise you going to need to address the so-called “guerillas” who try to convince the general (ignorant) public that they only rose up against the government because it was military...these guerillas were already being trained in Cuba in 1961, well before the military coup, and unfortunately for them, the government changed hands when they thought they were ready to try to implement Cuban-style “socialism” in Brazil.....and if you want to go on about these poor innocent guerilla fighters, when did they ever consult the Brazilians about which type of government they preferred ?.....just like the PT is doing now, and I cannot omit the fact that the “Comissão da Verdade” , sponsored by the PT, only investigates the atrocities committed by the Military, but not those committed by their own “cumpanheiros”.....

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    muito verdade, Jack.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Geoff, não há de que.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Seems like the end to the Alba nations all from their own bad management and corruption.
    I couldn't be more pleased if I did it myself.

    Jan 15th, 2014 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    OMG fear...lol..9 of the dead 12 were criminals. In my opinion, if it's the state police, they did the right thing. Same thing they should do here in the states.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    6 Brasileiro (#)

    'What a shame. But still need to die 500 000 bandits for us to have peace.'

    This seems like the old 'the ends justify the means' argument.
    That's fine if someone else decides it and does it; it's not for me.
    Would you do it?

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    There you go fifo dildo, let the police be judge, jury and executioner without repercussions.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    and so near the world cup,

    brazil must sort this out.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Well we know who is in charge of the main cities of Brazil and it isn't the government, that's for sure.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Agustin Tomas O'brien Caceres

    @yankee God hear you! ALBA future is a chaotic and random civil war that can take decades to end. The future of Brazil, Peru, Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Uruguay, Colombia, Mexico, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, and all these Barbarian nations of what the world calls Latin America is the same as Angola after 1975: civil war. Those societies are already all self destroyed. Those people like Dilma, Lula, Cristina, Xuxa, Pele, Maradona, and all those Third World Celebrities are simply ghosts who live in their own world of psycohpathy. Sooner or later, all this people will be killed by themselves, through suicide, or by some any other random Third World shit they will invent, such as the mass poisoning they are doing in Syria. Those countries have the same future as Syria or Angola. Year by year they go in deterioration and they do not like civilized and peaceful nations.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @13 Geoff,

    I favor to toughen the rules. It seems to me that there are only human rights to the thugs. And the victims? Every day we see our family and friends being slaughtered in our streets. And where is the NGO Human Rights?
    Bandit in this country have more rights than the good guys!
    These bandits are unrecoverable. They kill us, rob us, rape us, and what we do? Pray?

    “Pena de Morte JÁ!”

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    I understand, Stevie.

    My previous partner came to England when Caetano came out - 'asked to leave' by the military; but these issues are not Left and Right.
    My present partner was hounded out of Belize by a Guatemalan drug gang leader; these are issues of humanity.
    If you fight you risk death. You either fight or leave. But you do not become silent. To be silent is to be dead.
    Calderon tried “Pena de Morte JÁ!” but 'killing in the dark' is no way to go.

    Listen to La Negra. Music has charms to soothe a savage breast.

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 19 Geoff,

    'd Like to add some politicians in my list of offenders eligible for the death penalty.

    PS.: I'm Brasileiro, not Stevie...................................Thanks

    Jan 16th, 2014 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    4 Jack Bauer

    What a bunch of of self-opinionated rubbish, my wife is a journalist and well aquatinted with the activities with this particular police force. Which is answerable to none of the “rules of law” that other Brazilians are subject to, that last year alone killed 350 Brazilians in the state of São Paulo. While I agree with the old adage that “a policeman's lot is not a happy one”, they are persons that are extremely dangerous.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Police_(Brazil)
    ombrazil.blogfolha.uol.com.br/2013/01/29/blue-murder-sao-paulo-police-accused-of-massacres/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Police_(Brazil)

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Terence Hill, I'm not sure if I understood what you're trying to get at - whether you condemn the police who work 'outside the law', that is, those that do society a favour by killing off the bad guys , OR, whether you think they should fight crime strictly within the law....sure, that's gonna work just fine....but quite frankly, by the sound of your little tirade, I'd say that you are one of those radical human rights activists, who believe that all those homicidal muggers and drug dealers are 'human beings' too, and that the police should treat them with kid gloves ...and as for the fact that your wife is a journalist and “well aquatinted with the activities with this particular police force”, d'you think she's the only person who really knows what's going on ? I've lived in Brazil for decades, and have friends who worked in the “ROTA”, as well as family members who worked in Homicides, so don't come along with all your crap, as if you were an expert on the subject. I know damned well the police can be dangerous, but usually, only to criminals, or if you're on their hit list.

    Jan 17th, 2014 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    I do believe in law and order and expect those that are entrusted with administering the law to at least obey the law otherwise we will have no faith in a system that allows criminals in uniform to be the administrators. I know what your views are re: 4 Jack Bauer. “... police, every now and again, tend to take the law into their own hands ...it works very well..”. Apparently it doesn't because the criminals exact their own tribute in kind, which in no way betters the society. Also, re: 8 Jack Bauer, “..but let's not get into the Military's actions, otherwise you going to need to address the so-called “guerillas”...”. There's a certain irony in you using the same reactionary view that Hitler held, that we are all being saved from communist revolutionaries. As you reactionaries are just as arrogant as the radicals you despise. As for me I prefer the political centre, the so called “murky middle” and have no time for extremists like yourself, whether left or right. I make no claims of expertise, but I do have some familiarity with law having done legal research for my first wife, so in spite of puffing yourself up with “hearsay”, I do have some direct knowledge of the subject at hand.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Terry,
    I know what you are saying, but there is some truth in Jack's pov.
    One side is rarely uniformly 'right' and the other side rarely uniformly 'wrong'.
    Polarised politics where one polarised party takes power and then sets about destroying the opposition ... it leads to action AND reaction.
    Subsequent 'truth commissions' and 'peace and reconciliation' should address the excesses of both the action AND the reaction.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Terence, I don't know if you were born in Brazil, or if not, how long you've lived there (São Paulo ?), but I lived through the Military vs. “os guerrilheiros”...my opinions are not all based on hearsay, nor do I think they bear any similarity to Hitler's tactics...that said, you say that you “prefer the murky middle”....that's just sitting on the wall... I can see your point, it's just that I don't agree with it. If in Brazil, the criminals weren't so unnecessarily perverse, I might feel less intolerant towards them...however, in a country where criminals rarely pay the fair price for their crimes - whether political or street crime - you become sceptical of the justice system's will and capacity to lock them up, so you end up cheering when you hear on the news that a bunch of criminals were shot-up. So, let's just agree to disagree.

    Jan 18th, 2014 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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