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Cristina Fernandez is back on stage and announces program to help the young unemployed
Forty two days after her last public speech, Argentine president Cristina Fernandez was back on stage on Wednesday evening on national television to criticize the media, question the opposition and announce a new social plan to aid young unemployed and encourage them to study. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAnd hardly a word about the economy.
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the money problems there, like a poster here said, really are just a “structural” discrepancy.
So much for being a republic. Argentina is now being ruled over by Princess Cristina.
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This “program to help the young unemployed” it had better be well funded.
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The way the economy has been mis handled, me thinks that there is going to be quite a lot of “The young unemployed”.
Spend, spend, spend the money the government does not have. Are Argentines really so cheap they are bought off for US$50 per month?
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A friend just emailed they are getting 13 to the dollar.
4 ElaineB
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So I heard.... Yankeeboy is doing cartwheels ( it seems like ) and, and saying “I told you so” ever so many times.
Of course, you can not move on this forum at the moment for the La Campora trolls desperately trying to talk about something else, ANYTHING else other than argentina's economic woes........
You have to wonder whether this is the end game for KFC..... Or will she try and bow out gracefully at the next election?
I am just waiting for the headline:-
“Dollar trading at 20 pesos. Tango 1 missing from its hanger”
@5 The K's 'model' was always a 'party now and sod tomorrow' plan. Nestor and CFK have plundered the country and no matter what happens now CFK has more money than even she could spend in a lifetime.
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am getting worrying and fearful emails from Argentine friends now and I think the tide has turned. JMO
I'm surprised what was missing from her speech.
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't we also kill four year old girls.... little innocent four year old girls.....
I mean... I look into the eyes of my daughter and it is enough to bring tears to my eyes. Then I tell her to sod off so daddy can spend several more hours trolling on here.....
Four year old girls... in Irak (sic) or maybe it was Afghanistan.... either way the inhumanity of it all.
And don't you dare forget the £3 trillion debt.... that you leave for your children.....
What was the article about again?
Did KFC have plastic surgery?
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Wat the eff are you on about Anglotino?
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think he is talking to Stevie, as he is always saying that the West is killing 4yr olds, or he could be on the sauce.
@8 redpoll
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mimicry re: Stevie or Think perhaps. This is their usual troll response whenever the RG economy/inflation/dollar exchange rate is mentioned on here. They just deflect and start scweaming about alleged “war-crimes” etc UK debt blah blah. Many posters have tried logical fact based arguements only to waste hours of their time.
That is it exactly! Just getting the inevitable in early.
Jan 23rd, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0God forbid we stay on topic. I mean not even the Argentine president can actually address the topics of declining reserves, freefall currency and an inflation rate which is about to take another leap higher - how the he!! would people that support that government stay on topic?
4 year olds murdered I tell you! And debt!
Welcome back Cristinita, looking lovelier than ever =) And with a plan to help the young unemployed, not to kick them like the Tories would, I can see why the Sun/Clarin types on here can't stand her! Btw I was very glad to see this story quite a bit earlier and am glad mercopress have now picked up on it - but what's with the layout/no paragraphs?
Jan 24th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0#2 “So much for being a republic. Argentina is now being ruled over by Princess Cristina”
Well she certainly looks like a beautiful young princess =)
@ 11 re: “on topic”
Jan 24th, 2014 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0When the trolls surface, and then start deflecting, as always, why does no-one just shout OFF TOPIC TROLL! and then ignore them?
Or is it just too tempting to throw a dog a bone just to see their tails wag?
Aside from this, (ahem), to return to the article above;
“She added, ”maybe what is wrong are the polls, full of nonsense, who knows..“. Cristina Fernandez”
Now then, which polls are these,? The one in The Telegraph that her little pet Ms Castro was so keen to praise? The one her acolytes were so quick to manipulate?
Just a thought..............
@ 12 BK -” Well she certainly looks like a beautiful young princess =)”
I not sure what you are 'on' but can we all have some? Sounds like some mind-bendingly good sh*t!!! jajaja!
When was the last time anyone saw a young woman wearing a turkey neck like that?
Jan 24th, 2014 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha Anglotino !!
Jan 24th, 2014 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, that's Stevie, alright!! :-D
ilsen - nope, does not work - their deflections are not do easily deflected LOL!!
Did anyone notice, “ ”because we have an economy working at almost full employment, “
Ha ha, and she is announcing a relief fund for the ”unemployed”.
It's too funny - if everyone is working, and everything is fine in the economy,
why is the Evil Step-Queen desperately throwing crusts to the masses in an elaborately staged announcement, covered by her own media that asks no awkward questions about the economy?
Tell us, Stevie, you're a 'believer'.
Or, is this why BK has stepped in personally, now?
Things are getting a bit shaky in Kirchnerville !
Stevie - distract Troll distract !!! Go get 'em, boy!!!
@ British_Kirchnerist You stupid prat what the fooook are you talking about
Jan 24th, 2014 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reported elsewhere, TMBOA said in the same address that those seeking the 'truth' should turn to TeleSur..... So, who is TeleSur?
Jan 24th, 2014 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0La Nueva Televisora del Sur (teleSUR, English: The New Television Station of the South) is a pan–Latin American terrestrial and satellite television network headquartered in Caracas, Venezuela. TeleSur, C.A. is, according to its website a public company which has some Latin American governments as its sponsors. Its sponsors are the governments of Argentina 20%, Bolivia 5%, Cuba 19%, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Uruguay 10% and Venezuela 51%.
NB: Richard Stallman, (an American software freedom activist and Advisory Board Member), resigned on 26 February 2011, criticising the channel's pro-Gaddafi propaganda during the Arab Spring.
hmmm...
Come on Stevie, you only get a biscuit if you can explain why KFC directed 'her people' away from Argentine Media to seek the 'truth' from the Boliburguesía in Caracas.....
BK needs to get spec savers quick otherwise Gordon Ramsey is gonna cut his dick off.
Jan 24th, 2014 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a petulant, self absorbed speech by Mrs K. Perhaps it's the brain damage she suffered when she got pissed and fell on her head.
17 ilsen
Jan 24th, 2014 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0interesting bit about their support for Gaddaffy.
This is obviously where Stevie gets his info from - “killing women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya”, etc.
One of the Trolls, Alex Vargas, had a rather militant FB site.
In Spanish, but cover pictures of him in Canada, draped in Argie flag and camp-clothing.
Prominent amongst his photos and timeline posts, were logos and banners, slogans for
YPF
La Campora
Campora Juvenil
CFK
Gaddaffy
“NATO out of Syria”
“NATO out of Libya”
“Pirates out of Malvinas”
“No Libyan Oil for US/UK”
“Malvinas son Argentina”
Photos,
-Taliban snipers firing on Allied patrols in Afghanistan
-burning US and UK flags
-Thatcher-Pirate spoofs
-Argentine military photos
-La Campora rallies
- CFK rallies
-YPF rallies
- Chavez
Well, you get the picture, all very militant.
Not just “UK/US out of SA”, but lots of violent imagery and Islamic Extremist anti-West rhetoric about the Middle East.
It all seemed to be part of the same indoctrination, the same package and the same message.
Alex, Stevie, Paul, and Nostrils ( Toby) all repeat the same criticisms and conspiracies about Europe and North America.
All share the same racist/ethnic condemnation of us.
Very violent - very militant - very callous!
And... No compassion for those they consider inferior or sub-human.
There is no indication that their world order would be led by a kinder gentler people.
Such is the power of jealousy and greed.
@19 Troy
Jan 24th, 2014 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you
20
Jan 24th, 2014 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW
I just finished watching, “The Colony”, a sci-FI movie with interiors filmed at an obsolete NORAD base in North Bay, Canada.
Exterior of the facility was created in a Toronto studio.
On his FB cover, ALEX VARGAS has a picture of himself on-set.
Alex Vargas is listed in the credits as “painter”.
Photos were taken over a year ago, I think.
He lists his residence as “Salta” and has been very quiet for months - could have been deported. He talked about living under the radar, with no credit cards.
42 days
Jan 24th, 2014 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's amazing you lot managed...
But here she is!
Cristina.
One at the time please.
A very odd rant indeed. Not very dignified for a Head of State to carry on like this is it? Given that the Argentine Peso has fallen 15% in just 48 hours one might have thought this situation to be worthy of a statement. The Argentine people surely deserve some kind of explanation?
Jan 24th, 2014 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina may be entering a death spiral. The main cause of the Peso’s decline is inflation. However the central bank is running out of reserves to prop the currency up. The fall in the Peso will cause more inflation, increasing the demand for Dollars.
The Argentine government needs to get serious about inflation, or the situation will slip out of its control.
The headline says much. Back on stage. Well yes, thats the problem. Strutting on a stage, making speeches in front of adoring supportors; politics as show business. Politics like Italian opera. . Unfortunately you can't solve real problems by making speeches .
@Elaine B
Jan 24th, 2014 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Damn girl, your prediction was correct: “I was seeing polls some time ago that said people didn't want to see me and now they're the opposite, they want me to talk”.
Following your drinking game rules, looks like i'm gonna become quite drunk after work :-)
Good lot!
Jan 24th, 2014 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0One after another, offering your thoughts on the matter that is dearest to you all and unites you in your desperate searching for attention.
Cristina
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Next!
@24 Alas, I didn't make up the drinking game but posted it from The Bubble Ar. It is a satirical website that usually raises a smile.
Jan 24th, 2014 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@25 Calm down, Stevie. You seem to have forgotten this is a news site that invites comment.
And you just can't resistent the invitation, can you?
Jan 24th, 2014 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I understand, Elaine.
I would talk about South America all the time if I were you as well.
I mean, what better to talk about than us?
I'm agreeing with you here...
So why don't you contribute to the discussion, Stevie? You sound like you are panicking.
Jan 24th, 2014 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Eghrmm... Ok....
Jan 24th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems MP contracted ShadowWalker to write the articles...
@13 I agree with you. We should ignore the trolls. I'm fairly sure that the comments at 7 and 13 are troll hacking. Doesn't sound like Anglotino at all. Besides, it whitters on about a couple of “Stevie's” current “favourite” topics.
Jan 24th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0If we could all agree. Trouble is that there are some that think they can be “persuaded” by calm, rational discussion. Back in 1939, a guy called Chamberlain thought Adolf Hitler could be persuaded by calm, rational discussion. At the end of 1976, Britain discovered the illegal argie Corbeta Uruguay base on Thule. It tried diplomatic, calm, rational discussions until 1982. What was it that happened in 1982? Did the argies learn from having the floor wiped with them? No. They messed around for 12 years and then revised their constitution to say that the Falklands were theirs. Over time, they managed to introduce various resolutions to the UN General Assembly that were both spurious and irrelevant. At the same time, they set out to create various “international” organisations that would “support” their lies and claims. If you research you'll find that they frequently quote all sorts of south american organisations as “supporting” them. What could a broke, cowardly bully do? So many people don't understand that all argies understand is force. Britain can't actually say to them, “Go after the Falklands again with military force and we'll bomb/missile you”. People need to recognise that most of these trolls are from La Campora and/or Quebracho, as well as associated organisations, that are well accustomed to violence. But I can and will tell them that they'll be bombed/missiled. Some people don't like that. So people on “our side” have a go. And you expect everyone to yell OFF TOPIC TROLL and ignore them? You couldn't expect them all to hum “Rule Britannia” or “The Star Spangled Banner” at the same time!
The reason I asked if the Argentine President had plastic surgery was to find out if anyone else felt that that might be the reason why she disappeared for over a month. I mean, she seems to care more about herself than her country.
Jan 24th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 029
Jan 24th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Damn right there....it appears that MercoPress and the forum has been infected with the ShadowWalker virus....see post above...
...tip...Start a new paragraph for each new point or stage in your writing...
Did anyone actually bother taking English language ...in England...?
What are the fluffy yellow things in the photograph?
Jan 24th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“P” filters or a set of argie bollocks from a castration job, they ARE yellow after all?
Looks like I will have to revert to “Turkey Neck” from TMBOA.
It's what's left of the sheep Ossie brought her...
Jan 24th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Cristina Fernandez confirmed that next week she will be flying to the Havana Celac summit”
Jan 24th, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the end game for KFC is being played out. I doubt whether she will come back for this summit....
I mean, what is keeping her in the country? All her money is in off shore bank accounts, the economy is in the toilet. If she plays her cards right she could probably be able to keep hold of Tango 1 as well.
CFK is back on stage. Practising her new job. Sweeping!
Jan 25th, 2014 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 “”“Welcome back Cristinita, looking lovelier than ever =”“” really think so ?? looks more like mutton dressed as lamb.....anyway, her alleged desire to see the young back at their studies is somewhat contradictory....if they do study, don't get brainwashed and learn to think for themselves, CFK will find it harder to fool them with all her lies...but if that day comes, she'll be retired in Paris, with all her stolen millions.
Jan 25th, 2014 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did she have plastic surgery? If so, probably with state funds.
Jan 25th, 2014 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd say this is all pretty well timed. Three more weeks until the winter olympics starts.
Jan 26th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina should enter it's economy into the downhill slalom.
@40. I hear that they have also entered contestants in the figure skating, drawn almost entirely from INDEC
Jan 26th, 2014 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hear that they have entered the 100m walking backwards competition, should win that hands down.
Jan 27th, 2014 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39, Pisco, we'll soon know if they've stretched too far if she appears wearing a moustache.....
Jan 27th, 2014 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or A Van dyke or a Goatee
Jan 27th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A NEW STEP FOR OUR LIFE PROJECT.
Jan 27th, 2014 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many people in this country have a very reactionary view in relation to all those people who are helped by the state with this kind of policies. They are usually stigmatized and considered like lazy people who don't work, by many sectors of middle class. However, none of those ignorants have any idea about the complicated social situation of our country.
I know that the solution for poverty is a job not a subside, but i can't ignore that it's hightly probable that millions of our compatriots never get a job in the formal sector, due to many of them are more than 40 years old, in fact, it's well known that labour market excludes people of that age, beside, most them couldn't study because of particular reasons and due to the hard economic crisis that we had in different opportunities, and now they have to work hard to feed their kids. However, what the state can do, is to assure that although many of those people never get a job in the formal sector, their children will have a better life, giving them the opportunity to study, which let them get a job in the formal sector in the future, with all the benefices that workers have in this country.
If it soposes that those peole are lazy ones who don't work, then how is it possible that the number of people who work without any social safe hasn't changed in a signifficant number?, (34%), in fact, it's one the falencies of c. f. k's government. The stigmatizing view i described, shows that reactionary and discriminatory behavior of many sectors of our society.
On the other hand, as it often happens, some people in this forum make their usuall too partial lectures talking about the state of our public counts, ignoring the fact that despite those objetive problems, last year we had an economic expansion of 5%, i wonder what were the economic expansions of u. s. a., and of some european nations with their austerity plans.
Axel that is the first reasonable post you ever made with the exception of the last paragraph. If you are intelligent then you know well enough the developed countries do not and never have double digit expansion, it's not economically healthy.
Jan 29th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ast year we had an economic expansion of 5%”
Jan 29th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Erm what that the same year you had 10% inflation?
@45, Axel, I reckon that the governments of most countries with decent market economies , provide a safety net for those who for some “legitimate” reason, are unemployed.....the problem is when the government creates these social programmes with the sole intention of guaranteeing votes from significant portions of the population, and perpetuating themselves in power...I'm not 100% sure but believe that is true for Argentina, as it definitely is in Brazil. It's the way incompetent governments manage to stay in power, fool the poor people that you are doing something for them, when in reality they are just becoming more dependent of handouts to survive. Amongst the poor class in Brazil , of which around 23 million (official stats of about 3 or 4 years ago) are recipients of the so-called Bolsa Familia, over 90% who enter the programme, believe they've won the lottery and have absolutely no intention of ever looking for a job again...so a lot of these programmes, instead of serving as a stepping stone to get the people back on their feet, just become a reason for the lazy buggars to sponge off the worker / taxpayer.
Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 048 Jack Bauer
Jan 30th, 2014 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's certainly the case in Greece. In many ways the recent histories of these two countries is similar. Military dictatorship, a failed war. Restoration of democracy. Currency union with richer neighbours, economic collapse
Both countries suffer from massive and engrained corruption by the entire political class. Both suffer from “clientism” Both countries governments buy votes with borrowed or printed money spent on welfare payments and public sector jobs. Both countries also believe in the illusion that they are modern, ”western” countries when they are clearly nothing of the kind.
Sad story really.
CAPTAIN POPPY: Maybe it's true what you say in relation to economic expansions in developed nations, however, i never said that argentina is a developed country. Beside, although those countries don't have two digits of expansion, since 2008 is on recesssion, or it sometimes has a ver mediocre expansion, that's why millions of people lost their jobs because of the crisis. On the other hand, i explained in many opportunities the reasons of inflation, which are very ample, my lecture of this problem, differs so much from the opinions of many people in this forum, whose lectures about inflation are based mostly on monetary emission, and public expenditures.
Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ANGLOTINO: Since more than 7 years ago, we have had two digits of inflation, however, workers have always had payrases which have always been over inflation level.
JACK BAUER: People who are helped by the state with social programmes aren't forced to vote for c. f. k., they don't need to work for the government, they just have their precarious jobs, and charge the benefice given by the state.
@50, Axel, you are right ; “People who are helped by the state with social programmes aren't FORCED to vote for c. f. k.”... presuming that human nature is much the same in Brazil as it is in Argentina, when the people become eligible for social programmes which provide them with the same or similar net revenue as if they were employed, the large majority don't bother going back into the work market...no more expenses with work clothes, public transport, Income Tax, no more getting up early.....Anyhow, as you said, these people who live on government handouts, in Argentina, aren't FORCED to vote for CFK...but do you really think they are going to vote for someone else, who, they suspect might cut the benefits / make them get a job ?? I cannot be 100% sure of the Rgies, but in Brazil, the stats, published only by serious Non-Governmental Organizations because the Government does not want this information to reach the public, prove what I'm saying : well over 90% of the recipients of government handouts , vote for the same politicians, time and time again, just to guaranteee their income, and use these programmes as their permanent retirement....and this only happens because the Government has absolutely no interest in cleaning up the system and make the programmes work the way they should...
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