The Paris Club said it would study an outline from Argentina for repaying the more than 9.5 billion dollars it owes the group of creditor nations. Argentina is eager to resolve the problem of its outstanding debt with the group in order to regain access to international capital markets from which it has been shut out since its 2002 default. Read full article
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Doesn't sound like Argentina's answer to Elvis has been very convincing.Jan 23rd, 2014 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
He was all shook up, telling Cristina any day now, with the club saying are you sincere and his reply being its beginners luck and the club saying, you might be blowin in the wind. So he is going back home in the ghetto to go cryin in the chapel, with the club saying don't cry daddy and his reply don't be cruel and the British contingent saying, they really do live on the edge of reality and in a fairy tale.
So he is going to flip flop fly on aerolinas argentinas, listening to the British members of the club saying finders keepers losers weepers and his response being don't be cruel and I just can't help believing, but its the impossible dream and it hurts me, but will you reconsider baby and the club saying, no, you better runaway solitaire because we have suspicious minds, but he says tell me why and the British say too much monkey business.
I thank you.
The PC already came out with a statement denying everything positive that the RgElvis said.Jan 23rd, 2014 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I don't think he realizes when he's getting the brush off.
@1Jan 23rd, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
...surely he will be reporting all to the hound dog
I would be scratching my head as well, how am I going to pay the Paris Club 9 billion when we only have 30 billion in reserves.Jan 23rd, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
There seems to be something wrong with this, but I may need to go and discuss it with my bank manager. To pluck a figure out of the air, let's say I've owed my bank £9,500 for the last 11 years. I've decided that I want to clear the debt so that I can get another loan. But there are some conditions. I'll accept that I owe the money. But I'll only make repayments when I think I can. And I can do what I like.Jan 23rd, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
There's something wrong with that. Where's the interest? Based on a 10% compound interest, the sum now owed is $28,409,789,036.08. Even if the compound interest rate applied were 5%, argieland would still owe $16,447,099,479.50. And more interest would be added every year! Another attempted argie scam. How about $16 billion up front and we'll talk about the rest? And let's tell Kisitoff that we can lock argieland out of international money markets permanently.
I blew my calculator up when I tried to work out how much $US 90 billion is worth today.Jan 23rd, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@conqJan 23rd, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I think the loan was approx $6.5 billion and the rest is interest. I could be wrong on that.
Well, whatever the reality is it will be a HUGE win for Kickitoff!Jan 23rd, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Presumably he managed to lay out the offer before the Paris Club made one of their own! Urinate while you leave the building OR, FOR THE ARGIES WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH: piss off.
More likely Heartbreak Hotel. Jan 23rd, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Sr. Kicillof explained that Argentina holds debt with 16 of the 19 countries in the group. Not much traction around the world today.with your Marxist fantasy, nonsensical ideas for repayment.
( I feel so lonely Baby, I could die... ).
@7 Condorito. You're quite right. You're wrong. Not that it makes a lot of difference. The interest rate can be suitably adjusted. What does it matter? Argieland is going to have a heart attack when it finds out how much it owes. And that nobody is willing to take a haircut. We want every last penny!Jan 23rd, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
What ?? Rgland owes US$ 9.5 billion, and since 2002 ????!!! Nooooo! By reading the posts from the Trolls one would think they had paid every cent......and that figure is only the principal....plus 11 year's interest ? Interesting !Jan 23rd, 2014 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
somehow one tends to get the impression,Jan 23rd, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
that Argentina don't want to pay its debts,
yet still wish to borrow more..
Should have paid when they had more reserves then it wouldn't have been so obvious that they are only paying it in the hope that they can borrow more to default on again.Jan 23rd, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I don't think anyone is fooled. If Argentinas credit rating improves then someone has bought the propaganda. My prediction is Argentina will drop down below its main competitors for biggest economic basket. South Sudan (a country that is just a few months old) and Greece (a country where no one pays tax and people can retire at 55 on 80% of salary.
They have requested a loan of US$1.8 billion and I am guessing they are pretending they are good for it by negotiating with the P.C. Reading Businessweek's article on the crashing peso, the future is more than gloomy for Argentina.Jan 23rd, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
They should have sent a man not a boy to speak to the P.C.
@13Jan 23rd, 2014 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
RICO It is typical of a gambler mentality, they will always beat the table. Or in this case the Markets.
Hmmm,Jan 24th, 2014 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
No Trolls on this thread. I wonder why?
Is it too delicate a situation to risk comments of cynical disdain from Think, Paul, or Stevie-boy??
Interesting that they ALL seem to have got the same memo from Head Office !!!
@ 14 ElaineB - yes, interesting article, I read that too. May I also ref: Argentines Mad Dash for Dollars April 28, 2013 Bloomberg Business Week. Can't say we/they haven't seen it coming...Jan 24th, 2014 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@16 TT - Although a very divisive figure in the UK, (... and let's not go off topic guys, we are currently troll-free!)
A quote attributed to Margaret Thatcher goes along the lines of
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money [to spend].
quite pertinent I feel... Is that enough of a juicy bone? oops! shouldn't encourage them!!
17ilsenJan 24th, 2014 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I would think that the PC would want to see some sort of Business Plan before they would consider lending money.
For that plan to be effective enough to generate the $$$ required to pay off both the 'old' debt and the 'new' debt, the lenders may want to see a change in ideology, away from National Socialism.
There's no way the PC could even consider a plan until Arg becomes in alignment with their commitments as a member of the IMF.Jan 24th, 2014 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
That includes, allowing audits, have believable stats, pay all the ICSID judgements etc.
CFK will be out of power before they have an agreement with the PC.
As I have said before, investors, countries etc know the economy is failing and when it implodes she'll be gone and they can deal with someone sane ( hopefully) there is no pressing need to bother with this regime.
I think I'm gonna hop on a plane and go have some good meat and wine in B.A., while the peso is in the crapper, and before they turn the lights out...Jan 24th, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Hi Jack B -Jan 24th, 2014 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You might be right, but you could also get stranded in the country when banks, and airports all shut down.
I suppose Patagonia could be taken as part payment.Jan 24th, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
CBC Radio One:Jan 24th, 2014 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Air Canada and other Internationsl carriers have suspended flights to/from Venezuela - no tickets will be sold, and no payments have been received.
Venezuela wants to limit funds leaving the country.
@21,BOTINHO, tks for the heads up.....Jan 25th, 2014 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@19 I do hope you're right. At least you usually are. Question is, which members of the Paris Club are desperate for money and have the largest amounts owed by argieland? Let's hope the PC isn't inclined to write the debt off. And argieland should be required to repay IN CASH. If it can afford to buy aircraft, it can afford to cough up. Should be easy enough. Re-route a few suitcases and/or holdalls.Jan 25th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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