I got the (a?) solution.
Regarding the fact that every expat has a negative opinion on just about everything related to South America, and the fact that the Islands are such a wonder of a place, lets all gather the cash needed for the one way ticket to paradise, the Falklands, that is.
That way, the pensions are used in a British colony instead of in SA and the islanders can finally get a CT scanner, the expats will be happy and we will be clapping your achievements and reunion...
A magazine that promotes real estate investment in Ecuador concludes that Ecuador has one of the best climates in the World. No conflict of interest here right? I have been to Cuenca and although there are some nice temps during the day the nights get cold and most houses do not have adequate heating or insulation. The Mexican highlands, Medellin, etc have better climates. Since International Living does not promote real estate there you may not hear about it.
Any league table for best climate is extremely subjective.
It all depends on your physical make up.
Some people love temperatures of 30c + others are happier at 15c
Some like little seasonal change while others like large variations..
On the few occasions I have stayed in the tropics, I could not get used to the shortage of daylight when it was still warm. I preferred the longer summer evenings found in the higher latitudes. Again, personal preference.
#1
I don't think that anyone realistically would say that S.America is not geographically, botanically and biologically a wonderful diverse continent.
The trouble is with it's governments.
I see CT Scanners has been added to your catchphrases for the next interminable round of postings. If you wish to make a point about the Falkland's being too poor to afford this piece of equipment, then I am sure the Islanders will be only too happy to reply.
Clyde,
I would agree the long summer evenings in the higher latitudes can be spectacular, but I still prefer to live where I am.
For a view on British weather, look up A Song of the Weather by Flanders and Swann
It has rained non-stop since I came home. I went to Milan last weekend and it rained non-stop. I love my country but am really looking forward to getting back to SoAm next month just to dry out.
Personally, I love the eternal spring climate in Guatemala.
@6 I agree Guatemala has the best weather. It never got real cold there and if you want warmer, move from Antigua to the coast or lowlands.
Uruguay weather sucks, super humid and too cold in winter .
I have lived in both Guatemala and Uruguay BTW.
I've lived in Malta and Uruguay and neither is anything like the best climate in the world. Winters in each are cold and wet; summers brutally hot. And in both places houses are not generally insulated, compounding the discomfort, especially in winter.
Now you would think, given 500 years you'd be able to make such a region into a huge success, world leading in innovation, zero poverty and benovalent to the rest of the world.
Or in the wrong hands, a dung heap of festering corruption, poverty everywhere, high infant mortality, zero innovation worth the name and a fuck-you attitude to any other country in need.
I disagreed with this article. I presently live in Montevideo, Uruguay, and it was boiling hot here! I traveled in Ecuador and Malta before. Malta was another blazing hot place in the summer, but this place has more civilized and it is much safer than two impoverish countries ~ Ecuador and Uruguay. Ecuador has a huge variety of the climate because of terrain difference ~ cool in the mountain, hot humid in the Amazon Jungle, and generally hot on the coast.
Climate is not a factor for giving satisfaction of your life comforts. For example, Uruguay is very expensive to live and it is more expensive than New York City! Food, consumer goods, and rents are high in Uruguay due to high taxation. Walking at night is not safe here, and the crime is growing. Ecuador is an anti-Americanism country. Their political alignment is with anti-American fervor Hugo Chavez. anti-Americanism graffiti are everywhere in Ecuador. Poverty is everywhere in Ecuador that makes you feel uncomfortable and misery. If you wear casual western clothes and a watchband, they will go after you because they believed that you have the money ~ they had been brainwashed by anti-American capitalism propagandized educational media.
If you don't speak Spanish, then you never make friends in South America unless you pay them with the money. Money is their interests. Che Guevara - Marxist revolutionary is their favorite heroic idol! People in South America love to smoke their cigars and/or cigarettes to your face because they enjoy intimidating to stir up white-skinned gringos! Don’t be duped yourself by trusting their sinister smiling faces! Do not invest in South America because notorious corruption is common, and crooks are common. Infrastructures in South America are awful because brainwashed poverty-stricken citizens and corrupted politicians turned against privatization and opposed the spending on infrastructure needs such as crumbling roads.
Well l have lived in quite a few countries,
Personally l like the altitude.
Talking only about climate, not infrastructure or people's attitudes.
l like:-
The Highlands of New Guinea, above 5,500'
The Highlands of Kenya at 6000'
And Wyoming in the USA.
All are comfortable temperature wise.
@11 Whilst I agree with your (and others) observation that preferred climate is subjective, I disagree with most of what you say after that.
I have great friends in South America, have never had people attempt to intimidate me with smoke or stir-up the white-skinned gringa. If you travel and expect everything to be like your country of origin you are going to be disappointed. Better to travel with an open mind and embrace the good and the differences.
I agree that in developing countries you can be a target if you flash wealth ( who would do that?) but name a city that is safe to walk around at night.
I too live in Uruguay with my wife and frankly you live in the wrong city.
MVD is all the things you say and more, especially with the increase in crime. But why did you come to Uruguay, surely you knew it was “expensive” compared to the USA? Food is only expensive if you buy from the Supemercado’s (which we do I admit) but is cheap and better quality from the town market (but difficult to park near for my wife). We don’t pay rent we bought a very nice place on the coast and yes, consumer goods are expensive but how many goods have you bought if you are renting?
Before we decided to live our retirement here we came on a fact finding holiday and went to lunch with Total Uruguay, I am sure you know the venue. Nearly all Americans there, looking to live cheaply, especially on tax and ALL moaning their heads off all through the lunch about the proposed tax changes forced on Uruguay by the States among others. Does nobody from America do their homework first?
It will be three years this coming May 9th and we have never been back to a Total Uruguay Monthly Lunch, the moaning Americans spoilt it for us.
If you don’t like the things that you say you cannot stand, why do you stay, surely you must be unhappy?
@16 yes Clyde,
That's the one. At the risk of a drop of another hat, you may remember the Weather Forecast sung in plain chant by the Mastersingers Youtube.com/watch?v=4z2jwDcb9w1
I was in Wales a couple of years ago. They had a lovely summer but I must have missed as I was in the bathroom at the time
As to climate not many polar bears in Brazil or crocodiles in Finland?
It's not good thinking if someone emigrates to a different country that he will find a replica of the one he left. If he does he shouldn't have left where he came from
Lol, I gave that up a long time ago, in my teens.
It was something I used to enjoy doing with my father.
He and my grandparents had large, fairly valuable collections at the time. I was collecting Commonwealth Commemoratives, mostly, and had a friend and his father, who collected, too.
I enjoyed going all over the place on stamp hunts.
I don't remember too much about it, anymore.
All I have left is a Concorde, First Day Cover of the maiden flight.
My father still collects, but he says the market has collapsed.
”High summer (in Malta) can be hot—that’s when expats and locals head to the many beaches.
Not can be hot” - it is almost always too bloody hot ..! And the beaches (such as they are) are pretty lousy - no nice secluded bays and certainly no shade trees. And can you imagine how horrible it would be if what the article says is true and everyone heads for the beaches? Malta has 400,000 people in a tiny barren island much smaller than the Isle of Wight..! It is safe though, I grant that, but so are most islands in the Med. And so is the Isle of Wight, which is also green..!
Shack,
That's sure to make the Maltese Cross!
Troy,
Your dad is right. Philately will get you nowhere! Any Gibbon would confirm that
Stamp hunts? Gave that up a while back when I failed to find a flawless and imperforate Penny Black
Stamp hunts? Gave that up a while back when I failed to find a flawless and imperforate Penny Black
Ha ha :-)
C'mon, Red, those stamp hunts were high adventure, never disappointing!
I remember going to a particular small stamp shop on one trip to the 'States. We crossed the border to downtown Detroit, early 1970's, shortly after the riots.
The older white shop owner was surprised we had dared to come. Nobody comes downtown any more.
Business bad?, my friend's father said.
Yep, gettin' dark all over.
Driving out along Woodward Avenue, the street was lined with the wildest Cadillac and even Lincoln,Pimpmobiles, double- parked. I remember asking why they weren't in trouble with the Police for parking like that.
LOL !!
I can remember in 1950 being taken by my brother to a stamp dealer in Glasgow clutching a fortune...2/6d. He tried to get me to buy British Empire and Commonwealth stamps but of course, I was attracted to the gaudy large Japanese and Italian ones. I discovered the old albums recently and had a look in Gibbon's catalogue...the Bible for those who do not know. Some stamps I had bought for 6d were valued at over £350. Ok you would probably get a third of this if sold, but still a good return on investment
Some of my brother's of the East African colonies would have commanded thousands IF he still had them but his kids dumped them when they reached their teens. I bet they are sorry now.
Was the weather better in those days or was it just because we were young?
I can remember at Easter, we brought out the cricket gear to play in the local park. The actual weather did not matter because it was Easter and that was the start of the cricket season. I had no idea that the weather in the South of England was not the same as in Glasgow...the season had started there so it had to start where I lived. Khaki shorts and a cotton shirt and I wondered why I was frozen in what must have been 6c
Stamp collecting was a great hobby - I still have my entire collection and my mothers too, although I don't think they're worth much except from a nostalgic viewpoint. But I learnt far more from my stamps about history, geography, and politics than I ever did at grammar school and so much more interesting. I even learned who Eva Peron was long before don't cry for me and all that sentimental nonsense. I saw her as a pretty blonde with an angelic smile, - you see, the Peronist indoctrination even worked on me...!
The other great educational hobby was I-Spy - I eventually had and still have about 30 of those little books - boy, were they well thumbed, esp the Cars.
@27 I agree but now it's much easier just to use wiki!
I collect South Atlantic Islands And Antarctica. The people featured on the stamps motivated one to learn more about them and that includes the gent whose name you use
@11 and 15: You might both be right that Montevideo has had an uptick in crime, but I'm sure that it's still nowhere near as dangerous as Buenos Aires, never mind Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Caracas, etc.! From what I've read, Punta del Este is even safer than Montevideo, and in fact, in recent years, Jews from Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo alike have moved to Punta for the reason of safety.
It’s the wanabe gangsters and the drug dealers from BsAs that have caused the present crime wave in MVD.
They have also begun to make problems in PdelE with gun crime on the increase (albeit from a very, very low base).
There is of course a very simple way to deal with this but the murdering, communist, corrupt bastard we have as a president needs to go first (at the end of the year, Yippee).
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Jan 26th, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Regarding the fact that every expat has a negative opinion on just about everything related to South America, and the fact that the Islands are such a wonder of a place, lets all gather the cash needed for the one way ticket to paradise, the Falklands, that is.
That way, the pensions are used in a British colony instead of in SA and the islanders can finally get a CT scanner, the expats will be happy and we will be clapping your achievements and reunion...
Nice to see you want to go to the FALKLANDS to spend your pension, but do take US$ won't you.
Jan 26th, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0A magazine that promotes real estate investment in Ecuador concludes that Ecuador has one of the best climates in the World. No conflict of interest here right? I have been to Cuenca and although there are some nice temps during the day the nights get cold and most houses do not have adequate heating or insulation. The Mexican highlands, Medellin, etc have better climates. Since International Living does not promote real estate there you may not hear about it.
Jan 26th, 2014 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any league table for best climate is extremely subjective.
Jan 26th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It all depends on your physical make up.
Some people love temperatures of 30c + others are happier at 15c
Some like little seasonal change while others like large variations..
On the few occasions I have stayed in the tropics, I could not get used to the shortage of daylight when it was still warm. I preferred the longer summer evenings found in the higher latitudes. Again, personal preference.
#1
I don't think that anyone realistically would say that S.America is not geographically, botanically and biologically a wonderful diverse continent.
The trouble is with it's governments.
I see CT Scanners has been added to your catchphrases for the next interminable round of postings. If you wish to make a point about the Falkland's being too poor to afford this piece of equipment, then I am sure the Islanders will be only too happy to reply.
Clyde,
Jan 26th, 2014 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would agree the long summer evenings in the higher latitudes can be spectacular, but I still prefer to live where I am.
For a view on British weather, look up A Song of the Weather by Flanders and Swann
It has rained non-stop since I came home. I went to Milan last weekend and it rained non-stop. I love my country but am really looking forward to getting back to SoAm next month just to dry out.
Jan 26th, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Personally, I love the eternal spring climate in Guatemala.
@6 I agree Guatemala has the best weather. It never got real cold there and if you want warmer, move from Antigua to the coast or lowlands.
Jan 26th, 2014 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguay weather sucks, super humid and too cold in winter .
I have lived in both Guatemala and Uruguay BTW.
International Living is such a joke there's even a satirical site of it: http://internationaldreaming.info/
Jan 26th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've lived in Malta and Uruguay and neither is anything like the best climate in the world. Winters in each are cold and wet; summers brutally hot. And in both places houses are not generally insulated, compounding the discomfort, especially in winter.
Regarding the fact that every expat has a negative opinion on just about everything related to South America.
Jan 26th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thus meaning that as almost all South Americans were ex-pats at one time or other,
They all have negative opinions then…lol
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Massive natural resources and a perfect climate.
Jan 26th, 2014 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you would think, given 500 years you'd be able to make such a region into a huge success, world leading in innovation, zero poverty and benovalent to the rest of the world.
Or in the wrong hands, a dung heap of festering corruption, poverty everywhere, high infant mortality, zero innovation worth the name and a fuck-you attitude to any other country in need.
I wonder which one our friends ended up with
I disagreed with this article. I presently live in Montevideo, Uruguay, and it was boiling hot here! I traveled in Ecuador and Malta before. Malta was another blazing hot place in the summer, but this place has more civilized and it is much safer than two impoverish countries ~ Ecuador and Uruguay. Ecuador has a huge variety of the climate because of terrain difference ~ cool in the mountain, hot humid in the Amazon Jungle, and generally hot on the coast.
Jan 27th, 2014 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Climate is not a factor for giving satisfaction of your life comforts. For example, Uruguay is very expensive to live and it is more expensive than New York City! Food, consumer goods, and rents are high in Uruguay due to high taxation. Walking at night is not safe here, and the crime is growing. Ecuador is an anti-Americanism country. Their political alignment is with anti-American fervor Hugo Chavez. anti-Americanism graffiti are everywhere in Ecuador. Poverty is everywhere in Ecuador that makes you feel uncomfortable and misery. If you wear casual western clothes and a watchband, they will go after you because they believed that you have the money ~ they had been brainwashed by anti-American capitalism propagandized educational media.
If you don't speak Spanish, then you never make friends in South America unless you pay them with the money. Money is their interests. Che Guevara - Marxist revolutionary is their favorite heroic idol! People in South America love to smoke their cigars and/or cigarettes to your face because they enjoy intimidating to stir up white-skinned gringos! Don’t be duped yourself by trusting their sinister smiling faces! Do not invest in South America because notorious corruption is common, and crooks are common. Infrastructures in South America are awful because brainwashed poverty-stricken citizens and corrupted politicians turned against privatization and opposed the spending on infrastructure needs such as crumbling roads.
Avoid those places if you are seek
Continue please
Jan 27th, 2014 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well l have lived in quite a few countries,
Jan 27th, 2014 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Personally l like the altitude.
Talking only about climate, not infrastructure or people's attitudes.
l like:-
The Highlands of New Guinea, above 5,500'
The Highlands of Kenya at 6000'
And Wyoming in the USA.
All are comfortable temperature wise.
@11 Whilst I agree with your (and others) observation that preferred climate is subjective, I disagree with most of what you say after that.
Jan 27th, 2014 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have great friends in South America, have never had people attempt to intimidate me with smoke or stir-up the white-skinned gringa. If you travel and expect everything to be like your country of origin you are going to be disappointed. Better to travel with an open mind and embrace the good and the differences.
I agree that in developing countries you can be a target if you flash wealth ( who would do that?) but name a city that is safe to walk around at night.
@ 11 Lone American
Jan 27th, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I too live in Uruguay with my wife and frankly you live in the wrong city.
MVD is all the things you say and more, especially with the increase in crime. But why did you come to Uruguay, surely you knew it was “expensive” compared to the USA? Food is only expensive if you buy from the Supemercado’s (which we do I admit) but is cheap and better quality from the town market (but difficult to park near for my wife). We don’t pay rent we bought a very nice place on the coast and yes, consumer goods are expensive but how many goods have you bought if you are renting?
Before we decided to live our retirement here we came on a fact finding holiday and went to lunch with Total Uruguay, I am sure you know the venue. Nearly all Americans there, looking to live cheaply, especially on tax and ALL moaning their heads off all through the lunch about the proposed tax changes forced on Uruguay by the States among others. Does nobody from America do their homework first?
It will be three years this coming May 9th and we have never been back to a Total Uruguay Monthly Lunch, the moaning Americans spoilt it for us.
If you don’t like the things that you say you cannot stand, why do you stay, surely you must be unhappy?
'#5
Jan 27th, 2014 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WujIzsn4ues&list=PL696D33419B4AF2FF
I bought this record as a 45 rpm when it first came out - still true today !!
@8 You should take a look at the Jet Lag travel books. Very funny.
Jan 27th, 2014 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 yes Clyde,
Jan 27th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's the one. At the risk of a drop of another hat, you may remember the Weather Forecast sung in plain chant by the Mastersingers Youtube.com/watch?v=4z2jwDcb9w1
I was in Wales a couple of years ago. They had a lovely summer but I must have missed as I was in the bathroom at the time
As to climate not many polar bears in Brazil or crocodiles in Finland?
It's not good thinking if someone emigrates to a different country that he will find a replica of the one he left. If he does he shouldn't have left where he came from
I always liked this Flanders & Swann number, being a stamp collector and all...
Jan 27th, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://youtu.be/EdY1Y5XNJBY
Yes it's fun that the English can laugh. Philatelist? So am I, wht you collect?
Jan 27th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Redpoll,
Jan 28th, 2014 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol, I gave that up a long time ago, in my teens.
It was something I used to enjoy doing with my father.
He and my grandparents had large, fairly valuable collections at the time. I was collecting Commonwealth Commemoratives, mostly, and had a friend and his father, who collected, too.
I enjoyed going all over the place on stamp hunts.
I don't remember too much about it, anymore.
All I have left is a Concorde, First Day Cover of the maiden flight.
My father still collects, but he says the market has collapsed.
Are you still an active collector, Redpoll?
This is such an absurd comment....
Jan 28th, 2014 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0”High summer (in Malta) can be hot—that’s when expats and locals head to the many beaches.
Not can be hot” - it is almost always too bloody hot ..! And the beaches (such as they are) are pretty lousy - no nice secluded bays and certainly no shade trees. And can you imagine how horrible it would be if what the article says is true and everyone heads for the beaches? Malta has 400,000 people in a tiny barren island much smaller than the Isle of Wight..! It is safe though, I grant that, but so are most islands in the Med. And so is the Isle of Wight, which is also green..!
Shack,
Jan 28th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's sure to make the Maltese Cross!
Troy,
Your dad is right. Philately will get you nowhere! Any Gibbon would confirm that
Stamp hunts? Gave that up a while back when I failed to find a flawless and imperforate Penny Black
Redpoll
Jan 28th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stamp hunts? Gave that up a while back when I failed to find a flawless and imperforate Penny Black
Ha ha :-)
C'mon, Red, those stamp hunts were high adventure, never disappointing!
I remember going to a particular small stamp shop on one trip to the 'States. We crossed the border to downtown Detroit, early 1970's, shortly after the riots.
The older white shop owner was surprised we had dared to come. Nobody comes downtown any more.
Business bad?, my friend's father said.
Yep, gettin' dark all over.
Driving out along Woodward Avenue, the street was lined with the wildest Cadillac and even Lincoln,Pimpmobiles, double- parked. I remember asking why they weren't in trouble with the Police for parking like that.
LOL !!
I can remember in 1950 being taken by my brother to a stamp dealer in Glasgow clutching a fortune...2/6d. He tried to get me to buy British Empire and Commonwealth stamps but of course, I was attracted to the gaudy large Japanese and Italian ones. I discovered the old albums recently and had a look in Gibbon's catalogue...the Bible for those who do not know. Some stamps I had bought for 6d were valued at over £350. Ok you would probably get a third of this if sold, but still a good return on investment
Jan 28th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some of my brother's of the East African colonies would have commanded thousands IF he still had them but his kids dumped them when they reached their teens. I bet they are sorry now.
Was the weather better in those days or was it just because we were young?
I can remember at Easter, we brought out the cricket gear to play in the local park. The actual weather did not matter because it was Easter and that was the start of the cricket season. I had no idea that the weather in the South of England was not the same as in Glasgow...the season had started there so it had to start where I lived. Khaki shorts and a cotton shirt and I wondered why I was frozen in what must have been 6c
Clyde,
Jan 28th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I collected the stamps celebrating the Soviet Sputnik and Space Program, too. I may even have had a 'Gagarin' - can't remember now.
In the days before Internet surfing, it was a fascinating look at the world at times.
Stamp collecting was a great hobby - I still have my entire collection and my mothers too, although I don't think they're worth much except from a nostalgic viewpoint. But I learnt far more from my stamps about history, geography, and politics than I ever did at grammar school and so much more interesting. I even learned who Eva Peron was long before don't cry for me and all that sentimental nonsense. I saw her as a pretty blonde with an angelic smile, - you see, the Peronist indoctrination even worked on me...!
Jan 28th, 2014 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The other great educational hobby was I-Spy - I eventually had and still have about 30 of those little books - boy, were they well thumbed, esp the Cars.
Bogota is cool year round, just perfect.
Jan 29th, 2014 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27 I agree but now it's much easier just to use wiki!
Jan 29th, 2014 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I collect South Atlantic Islands And Antarctica. The people featured on the stamps motivated one to learn more about them and that includes the gent whose name you use
@11 and 15: You might both be right that Montevideo has had an uptick in crime, but I'm sure that it's still nowhere near as dangerous as Buenos Aires, never mind Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Caracas, etc.! From what I've read, Punta del Este is even safer than Montevideo, and in fact, in recent years, Jews from Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo alike have moved to Punta for the reason of safety.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 30 yd1982
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It’s the wanabe gangsters and the drug dealers from BsAs that have caused the present crime wave in MVD.
They have also begun to make problems in PdelE with gun crime on the increase (albeit from a very, very low base).
There is of course a very simple way to deal with this but the murdering, communist, corrupt bastard we have as a president needs to go first (at the end of the year, Yippee).
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