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Spain hassles Gibraltar on UN hazardous waste convention
The European Union is not the only place where Spain punctiliously continues to press its position on Gibraltar as a clause in every international agreement. As recently as November 2013 amendment to the Basel Convention on the control of trans-boundary movements of hazardous wastes and their disposal, Spain introduced, via the office of the UN Secretary General, a communication relating to the territorial application by UK to Gibraltar. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSpain just doesn't get it!
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're actually driving Gibraltar towards independence.
And on that day I will piss myself laughing.
an independent gibraltar means their expulsion from the eu.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what means the gate will be closed.
what means the llanitos could not even survive 30 days
2 paulcedron
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“an independent gibraltar means their expulsion from the eu.”
Is that it? Is that the only thing you can threaten them with?
With incentives like that, it's a wonder they have declared independence sooner.............
Paul
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back up your claim with facts.
God forbid. How does any country survive not being a member of the EU?
Anyone? Norway?
Anyone? Switzerland?
Anyone? San Marino?
Anyone? Monaco?
Anyone? Liechtenstein?
“what means the gate will be closed.
Feb 03rd, 2014 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what means the llanitos could not even survive 30 days”
Yeah. Obvious, that. I mean - look at the way Gibraltar collapsed when Spain closed the border for 16 years (only opening it as a condition of EU entry).
Oh....wait....
*5 SPAIN SHOULD RECLOSE IT AGAIN!! for another 16 years!!
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0don't bother replying to the idiot @6.
No one else does. A well known troll, and worse a complete fool.
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Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 08 Spanish Shoeshine
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Another deep shit from deep space trying to make an intelligent point!!!”
I bet you're the funniest wag at your Technical College cafeteria.
Paul Cedron must bray the loudest, though!!
*9 Glad you liked the line!! hope it made you laugh..its good to laugh every now and then......
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well now we see that not even the Spaniards can articulate an argument for Gibraltar.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's now just too damn hard.... close the border and let them suffer - like that will help Spain get sovereignty.
The problem is that Gibraltar will survive without a border crossing. It will just hasten independence.
@9 TT
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Funny comment, I like it. Thanks! (are you sure that fool even got into Tech College?)
Back to topic. Spain is still busy with distraction tactics as their young people flee from economic turmoil. It is quite usual to meet young Spanish folk in London, often with a Masters degree, fluent in English and German or French, happy to work in the Service Industry whilst seeking better employment because there are no opportunities at home. Do they care about Gibraltar? NO. They are just happy to be in London with the opportunities it provides.
Also I do not respond to the fool @8 because he is beneath contempt and is not worthy of the oxygen he breathes, counting my words (?!?), obviously has no life to speak of! haha!
Come on, people.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everybody knows that aussie shoeshine and Paula Ignorant Idiot Cedron are specimens of pond life.
you are quite correct Doggy Rap. They do tend to fill these threads with their incoherent bile.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 05:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spain won't close the border as so many inhabitants of La Linea would lose their jobs, just adding to Spain's MASSIVE unemployment. Thank God the Brits are still providing jobs for the Spanish both in Gib and the UK. I think they 'owe us one'!
#14: I don't think the Spanish government is really bothered about La Linea and only uses it for propaganda purposes.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0They won't close the border now because they can't under EU law. They may do if the UK leaves the EU - but I doubt it: the existence of the border allows them to cause problems by claiming “tobacco smuggling” and “money laundering” etc to divert the Spanish population from Spain's (and the PP's) problems. It gives them a stick to beat us with.
The employment prospects of the locals are not a consideration, though.
In reality? We can no longer import building materials from Spain. So we get them from Portugal and Morocco. There is a new air service starting from Gib to Morocco. As the border is such a mess these days, we're effectively locked in anyway and all thatwill happen is that links to other countries will strengthen, as we are seeing now.
@2,6,10 I LOVE this idea. A non-EU Gibraltar. UK ships hazardous waste to Gibraltar. Gibraltar adds its own hazardous waste. Loads into various vessels scheduled to be scrapped. Vessels are sunk at various selected points. Off Barbate. Off Cape Trafalgar. Off Cala del Aceite. Off Cadiz. And to the east. Off Estepona. Off Marbella. Off Fuengirola. Off Malaga. Lovely new “artificial reefs”. All at no cost to Spain. Problems? Maybe we could include some unshielded nuclear waste. What a wonderful tourist attraction. Swim in the spanish seas, grow another head, a third arm, a vagina in the middle of the forehead! Travel to spain and become a freak! Or, alternatively, DIE!
Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina, oopps sorry I meant Spain,
Feb 04th, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is getting more desperate every day,
It is now saying it may support Scotland,
It seems Spain will do anything and everything to divert the attention of its people from its very own corruption and incompetence,
Perhaps Spain needs a referendum urgently and dump this government,
And get a better one before things get any worse,
Just saying like...
17
Feb 04th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Briton
Umm, they could support the Referendum for Catalonia...
warmer, nicer beaches.
I think Gib should have an international expert on oil matters carry out an audit on the floating terminals in Spanish waters and send that to the UN.
Feb 04th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We all know that these Spanish clowns couldn't run a piss up in a taverna.
#2
Feb 05th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar to Eddalya in Morroco is 20 miles by sea. Quite an easy matter to close the border with Spain and transfer all trade between these two ports.
All fruit, veg. and other staples can easily be sent from there..and probably purchased cheaper. Remember the border was closed for years and Gibraltar survived quite well. La Linea would all but collapse.
So your idea is ( haha) close the border and watch Gibraltar collapse er, no, it would be La Linea. What the hell, it is worth sacrificing them to make a pointless gesture !
How very NOBLE of you to screw up the livelihood of fellow Hispanics !
closing the gate would solve all the problems.
Feb 05th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that, of course, would mean the expulsion of the several llanitos who in fact live in spain without paying any tax, including fatty picardo.
the less contact with the squatters, the better
@21
Feb 05th, 2014 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell that to the thousands of Spaniards who would lose their jobs-and Gibraltar would forge closer links with Morrocco.
I look forward to the alliance Gibraltar will also have with Catalonia when it tells Spain to go scrounge off someone else.
#21
Feb 05th, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course it would. At a stroke you would have solved Spain's problems.
Unemployment would vanish, the national debt would disappear overnight, the bay off Algeciras would team with fish. The Catalonians would then beg to stay with the mother country so they could distribute the wealth they create to the deserving Spanish govt. Spain would then become the leading economic power in Europe. With one simple act, all your problems are solved. DO IT !!!
Meanwhile Gib. gets on with life, makes new friends and meets interesting people
#21 - Closing the gate would cost the jobs of up to 10,000 Spaniards. La Linea would revert to the drug- and crime-ridden 'Wild West' shanty town that it was during the border closure years.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0The few Gibraltarians who actually live in Spain would have to choose - as they did in 1969. Most preferred to return; some stayed.
Those who live in Spain now should pay what taxes are due to Spain: the few trying to avoid the secondary income tax are breaking the law. But there are not many - as I can attest by the squeals in my office when Spanish tax payment day came round last year.
It would, of course, be easier for Spain to track this if it agreed to exchange information with Gibraltar in the way that every other country in Europe does - but then, they couldn't carry on their ludicrous pretence that this is a 'tax haven', could they?
As to Picardo - he doesn't live in Spain. He has a property there - many here do. And despite the diligent work of the Hacienda in going through his records, they haven't found any evidence of unpaid taxes - not even a parking fine.
In summary: closign the gate would cost Spain far, far more than it would Gibraltar.
#24
Feb 06th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can remember Algeciras in 1962. I went across from Gib. on the ferry.
Everywhere I went I was approached by “spivs” trying to sell me fake watches and to take me somewhere for “a good time”. La Linea was a one horse town where you did a right turn to go up to Marbella -a charming sleepy little town -or inland through the cork groves to Castellar de la Frontera, which resembled a mediaeval village.
The next time I visited La Linea was in 2001. It was full of multi storey flats right next to the border and inhabited solely by N.Africans. A very unattractive place.
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