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UK unveils its latest and most modern and secret un-manned aircraft, Taranis
The most advanced aircraft ever built by British engineers made its maiden flight at an undisclosed test range on August 2013 under the command of BAE Systems test pilot Bob Fraser. According to the Ministry of Defense (MOD) the demonstrator Taranis aircraft made a perfect take-off, rotation, ‘climb-out’ and landing on its 15-minute first flight. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNice aircraft.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have the RG's even finished making their 1st plane yet?
Feb 06th, 2014 - 05:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Deterring adversaries and carrying out strikes in hostile territory”.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be under any illusions Argentines that that means YOU!
Cylon Raider
Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if Wikipedia has it right. Claims it's due to enter service post 2030!?!?
Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I want my personal jetpac by then!
the uk spends millions of dollars in this kind of toy, millions of dollars in the lazy royal family and millions of dollars in the lazy isleños and llanitos.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0not a surprise they have 13 million people living under the poverty line.
no doubts useless cameron should help these families http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/13/homeless-numbers-increase-three-years-england
instead of building this airplane toy.
@ 6 a cold prune
Feb 06th, 2014 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Demonstrating your PhD in idiocy again, wheel barrow man?
The Queen is a bargain at 35 pence per head of the population for what she does for us on the diplomatic scene. 35 pence is worth about a million arsewipes, or it will be as soon as TMBOA fucks off with your money.
The government have not spent the money on this “toy” as you stupidly claim it to be, the companies developing it have with seed money from the UK government.
You had better wish that this “toy” never overflies The Dark Country.
Pathetic little man.
7 there just jealous we have better “toys” then them Ha
Feb 06th, 2014 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Idle, I doubt there'll be fleets of Taranises flying about, it's a technology demonstrator (just like the one BAe EAP made was the technology demonstrator for the Typhoon).
Feb 06th, 2014 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can see fleets of things that look strangely similar starting to make an appearance in the coming decades though...
Having a personal jetpack does sound like a good plan, but can you imagine the traffic jams if everyone had them?
#6
Feb 06th, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Divert and “whataboutery”. Your petty jealousy is shining forth again.
By the way, the currency in the UK is the pound sterling- not the US dollar.
I fully understand your confusion as the US dollar is the main currency in your apology of a country....your peso being all but worthless !
There is not much use in having an aircraft industry if research and development is not carried out. There may well be commercial applications in the future for this type of aircraft.
Of course, Argentina's venture into modern military aircraft and missiles is not a waste of money ? Explain your reasoning if you can.
Your touching concern for the people of the UK is laughable.
As they are used over the frontier here, there is a new saying going around:
Feb 06th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ When you look up at the sky, smile. ”
chris “toilet cleaner” r
Feb 06th, 2014 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0the queen is a bargain...blablabla...
you have to add the whole useless royal family, especially the w@nker little princes, and you have to add the whole bunch of lazy isleños, including yourself of course.
go back to your toilets now.
clyde
the currency of the uk is the pound, but nobody cares too much in the rest of the world.
argentina´s venture into modern military etc, would be a complete waste of money of course.
there is a lot of things to do here instead of buying or building planes.
@12
Feb 06th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ there is a lot of things to do here instead of buying or building planes”, I am sure there is but can you afford it?
#12
Feb 06th, 2014 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still better than the Peso !
there is a lot of things to do here instead of buying or building planes.
So, why is your country doing it?
As for “our Royal family”, still a lot better than the Hispanic equivalent !
the currency of the uk is the pound, but nobody cares too much in the rest of the world.
As a professional business tycoon and economist , this is your unbiased opinion ?
Why bother quoting the exchange rate in the BA Herald if no one cares ?
Why quote that the UK is spending millions of Dollars when it is actually Sterling ?
If you are going to post your usual “spoiler” into unrelated news items, at least get the basic facts correct.
#6 Our version of poverty is equivalent better than normal wealth in Argentina. $7 a day is the normality for vast swathes of your population! There is no poverty on our Falkland Islands.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look on with envy, its destructive. And, mind our drones..
“your” version of poverty and homelessness is the same as in the rest of the world.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0basically, they are poor living in the streets.
in this case they are real british (not british wannabes) suffering poverty.
you should be ashamed of parasitizing the real british taxpayers.
It's not very secret though is it?
Feb 06th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul it's a matter of balance, these aircraft are the future. They can assault our enemies risk free. My inderstanding is that the delivery systems need more work but a future minor war should prove the technology and lead to even better innovation. Whilst the first Falklands War was almost free of civilian casualties (no thanks to Argyland) a second war will likely be extended to Argyland itself and it is important that targets can be carefully evaluated and selected. These weapon systems will allow any Argy casualties to be specifically directed and limited.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0clyde
Feb 06th, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So, why is your country doing it?”
because our government is as useless as the british government
@18
Feb 06th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite so.
Any aggression by Argentina against the Falkland Islands would get a swift and decisive response. Be it by TLAMs launched from our nuclear submarines or by undetectable drones flying overhead and striking with precision on Argentine military and political targets.
Taranis is a technology demonstrator, but as has been pointed out before, British technology demonstrators have a habit of becoming real front line aircraft. Just as the EAF became the Typhoon.
Not only is Taranis close to the abilities of the American stealth drones, it is also capable of carrying out 'autonomous' missions. That means it can be programmed with a target, sent out without a pilot flying it, identify and strike the target, with bombs or missiles and then return to base, without any intervention or action by the pilots back at base.
What this means is that in the future, if Argentina threatens any of the Falklands oil platforms, then a Taranis can be flown from the islands and programmed to attack and sink any aggressor ship, or even shoot down any aircraft that threatens the peaceful oil rigs.
The thing about the Taranis is that it is a stealth UAV, which means that any manned fighter pilot won't see it on his radar. Taranis can hide in the clouds and watch for the radar emissions from hostile aircraft. Or even receive updates from land based radars illuminating the hostile aircraft. The enemy pilot won't see it before he gets shot down. Much like many of the Argie pilots who didn't see the AIM9L sidewinders shooting up behind them until it was too late.
So continue to have your pipe dreams of buying 30 year old obsolete aircraft from the Israelis, because when Taranis comes online (a lot sooner than you think) your pilots won't get anywhere near the Islands before they are blown out of the sky.
We won't even need to send bombers to Buenos Aires. A few Taranis will deal with our priority targets with no risk to British personnel at all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26
#19 Useless? You are joking.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argieland government is useless!
30% inflation
Plumetting currency, no freedom to travel abroad, price controls, currency restrictions
Crime out of control
Widespread corruption
Government ministers and President stealing public funds
Vast Villa Miserias
Cartoneros on the streets
Rubbish dumped everywhere
Crumbling infrastructure and public transport
… and thats just a start!
You are brainwashed and blind.
Somehow the BBC link did not go through:
Feb 06th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26052931
GBP 185 million! That is a bargain.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are private individuals here who spend that much on pet projects. What the unmanned troll fails to realise is that it is not the money that is the issue. Given 10x that much money we couldn't make a demonstrator like that because we don't have the breadth or depth of technical base - there are perhaps only 5 or 6 countries that do have and none of them are in Latin America.
Spending such a tiny amount of money (what would it be, 1 day of the UK health budget?) on staying in the forefront of numerous advanced technologies would seem very intelligent expenditure. Only a troll of little brain would dispute that (or perhaps one seething with envy).
Aerospace is one of those fields in which the United Kingdom has frequently led other nations, but then allowed the others to surpass our achievements. Shortly after the Second World War, Britain was leading the development of Jet engines. Even the United States benefited from British research. That and that the German scientists they managed to persuade to help them.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's well known that the greatest treasure that ever came to American soil came from the British during WW2. Fearing that the Germans might try to invade, Churchill sent a chest full of Britain's greatest military secrets and gave it free of charge to the United States, so that they would have the means to defeat the Nazis regardless of whether Britain was conquered.
It was a very smart move, because one of those secrets was the magnetron, the device used for radar. The Americans were astounded, because their best research labs were years behind the British ( & the Germans) and here in a box they had the very latest electronic equipment and no charge for it!
The Americans went on to develop far better magnetrons that could be fitted onto ships and more importantly into aircraft. These radars were capable of detecting U-boats on the surface and later ones even if the U-boat raised his periscope, which kept the convoys safe and eventually allowed Britain & America to free Europe from Nazi tyranny.
The Taranis demonstrator shows that British engineers are still capable of producing first rate technology. It indicates that the defence of the future will be from un-manned aircraft on constant patrol in the skies of British territory, deterring any aggressor from trespassing or causing any mischief.
Argentina had better take note. You couldn't afford to buy a 30 year old fighter aircraft, but you most certainly cannot defend yourself against a stealth drone. If you continue to threaten or attack peaceful Falkland Islanders, then you will be punished for your misconduct.
what some imbeciles here do not realize, is that it is not just £185 million.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have to add those £185 million to the £100 billion the m.o.d. plans to spend in nuclear weapons in the years ahead.
it seems it is a lot of money for a country that is basically a poor little island with a lot of social problems.
@ 25 The article is about Taranis not Trident.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's put GBP185 million in perspective for an Argie troll:
It is about what the central bank of Argentina is spending per week to hold up the Argie peso. Per week!
New trolls please, this one is hopeless.
@23
Feb 06th, 2014 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The most alarming thing is that you believe it cost 300 million.
LOL... But anyway, nice. I'm sure the millions of British children living in poverty got a nice view of it flying overhead, saying “there goes my lunch money”!
http://www.euronews.com/2013/06/05/one-in-four-british-children-faces-poverty-by-2020
so funny a chilote feels identified with the british wannabes.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the imbecile cannot understand they are not isolated expenses.
and what the useless authorities of the banco central spend per week are +/- 500 million dollars, you dumbass.
“the banco central spend per week are +/- 500 million dollars”
Feb 06th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... making the Taranis comparably even better value.
Is that it?
#28 Hahahaha..... the only correct part in “a poor little island with a lot of social problems.” is Island!
Feb 06th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really shouldn't believe all you read in a the Guardian, a UK newspaper with a totally socialist agenda with less than 100,000 readers, and you should get out a bit more uneducated RG Plonker!
Well paul, the Anglos and the Chileans will now come to tell us that “the poverty in Britain and Argentina are not comparable” (code for them saying “that excuses spending on pet projects in the UK, but not in Argentina...” remember the missile test and all the outrage there) .
Feb 06th, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And that maybe so, but then again how ridiculous does that sound? As ridiculous as me saying “well, the poverty in Argentina and Peru, Guatemala, India, Zimbabwe, and Jamaica don't compare”... so that excuses Argentina to spend on pet projects.
Of course then they blast Argentina for never seeing anything through. But when it does (i.e. the missile/rocket project), they blast it as wasteful spending.
It is obviously clear that with these first class haters it is damned if you do, damned if you don't.
That in turn makes it obviously clear they have absolutely no objectivity or actual interest in debate whatsoever. For all their protestations to the contrary, they are only here to freely insult Argentina and argentines without restraint.
So when people like I come along and play the same game, they get upset.
They like the smell of the cooking kitchen, but ask for the ovens and stoves to be turned off.
Their whataboutism (my poverty is better than your poverty), is so fescennine it completely has buried their scruples under a tsunami of ordure, thus they don't even hesitate to issue arrantly nonsensical, benighted aspersions, that they would otherwise keep to themselves had they actually mused for a little while and taken in the aroma of Pecksniffian duplicity wafting from their utterances.
@troll central
Feb 06th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for heeding my request and sending a better troll so promptly.
@ 31 Toberine
The only posters on here mentioning poverty are you and your cerebrally challenged side-kick.
#31
Feb 06th, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am shattered ! My faith in humanity has gone. You told us quite categorically that you were an EUian living in Europe and not an Argentinian.
Now you reveal that you have been lying all along. How could you do this to your followers ! We thought that the use of obscure English and over flowery language was because you were a French madamoiselle still reading Dickensian novels. I hope you gave Paulcedron a dictionary to decipher your convoluted language.
If you can lie about something as basic as your origin,we will never be able to believe a word you say. I remain, yours, heartbroken at your unforgivable deceit !
Back to the Taranis. I have been reading some of the aeronautical press .
Although the performance is still top secret, it is expected to exceed Mach 1 in flight.
If so, this will be the first UAV to do so.
30
Feb 06th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it seems you are wrong, you halfwit.
it seem it has + 200.000 readers.
300.000 average per year in the last 10 years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_circulation#Circulation_since_2000
and it seems this 5th class newspaper does not even have 100.
anyway, the funny thing is the sun is the most popular newspaper in the uk.
says a lot about the intelect of the average british reader.
31
spot on
@17
Feb 06th, 2014 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah!!! bet you don't see it coming.
Paul should concentrate on Argylands terminal decline and let Britain do what it does best - innovate, invent, make money and win wars.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love how these Argentines are so concerned about what we spend our money on. As a British tax payer I am very pleased that we have the most advanced ships on the ocean and the most advanced aircraft in the air.
Feb 06th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a British tax payer I will be very happy to see some of our advanced technology used against Argentina, you are well overdue another beating and no one delivers an Argentine beating quite like us.
27 Narine T. Nüster
Feb 06th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As per usual, you are missing the point Tobi..... It doesn't matter that this superb, state-of-the-art,21st Century, 100% British made jet costs £300 million. That doesn't matter.
What does matter is that WE CAN AFFORD to buy it.
At the moment ( or in the very near future ) you and yours in argentina, won't be able to afford a pot to p*ss in....
I suspect that, if your 19th Century air force were to try anything silly, they would not know or see what kills them.
@37
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly, it appears that they are beating themselves up before we can do it!
Terminal implosion on the way. Even the Guardian thinks so!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/01/argentina-peso-crisis-shakes-queen-cristina
37
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“As a British tax payer ..blablabla...”
as a “british taxpayer” you should feel like an asshole when you realize where your taxes go:
“Slow, leaky, rusty: Britain's £10bn submarine beset by design flaws”
“Exclusive: Royal Navy's HMS Astute 'has a V8 engine with a Morris Minor gearbox'”
“Royal Navy sub returns to port with nuclear reactor coolant leak”
“HMS Tireless returns to Plymouth after reactor leak”
all you can get with that shit is to contaminate your own waters.
what can you expect from the country that produced the biggest oil disaster in history?
First flight trials of Taranis aircraft
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-flight-trials-of-taranis-aircraft--4
Apparently it will be used for future experiments on weapons testing, and future fighters , and stealth
The Royal Air Force to make decisions on the future mix of manned and unmanned fast jet aircraft
.
40 paulcedron
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh you really are clutching at straws arn't you? there's a little bless poppet...
But seems you want to go there, then......... shall we?
How is argentina's submarine fleet these days? How is the argentine Navy these days?
Do you have any ships or submarines that were made this century?
Do you have any ships or submarines that were made last century?
In fact, do you have any ships or submarines that are still afloat?
Oh, and by the way? HMS Tireless?
“The vessel is expected to be decommissioned this year.”
Being about 30 years old, she's almost as old as your newest ships!!!
Something to think about huh, champ?
HMS Astute: Relic or Revolution for the Royal Navy
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.defenceiq.com/defence-technology/articles/hms-astute-relic-or-revolution-for-the-royal-navy/
40 paulcedron
Not as bad as you think...
tooold
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Do you have any ships or submarines that were made this century?”
no
(you repeated the question, champ)
“In fact, do you have any ships or submarines that are still afloat?”
no
probably the only good thing this govt has done was to dismantle the armed forces.
now they are more dedicated to civil tasks, building bridges in remote areas, etc.
there is not any conflict hypothesis here.
guess britain cannot say the same, they have conflicts with 1/2 world.
tell me, all the Argentinian posters
Feb 06th, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know the Argentine ambasador to London, used to ask pasta or chicken while being an air hostess, do you think she will work at McDonalds when she returns, a failed woman
It will be easier for her than on the planes, at least she wont have to ask if they want ketchup with that
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2552847/Argentina-arms-KETCHUP-shortage-McDonalds-branches-countrys-economic-crisis-sauce-problem.html
@ 6 Paul
Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“not a surprise they have 13 million people living under the poverty line”.
No it's not a surprise at all if you understand statistics. The definition of poverty in the UK is a ‘household income below 60 percent of median income'. This is relative and not absolute poverty. Plus in the UK everyone has access to free health and education and the relative poor have heavily subsidised access to world class Universities, so their below average incomes still give a considerably higher standard of living than for people in an equivalent social position in much poorer countries. Sorry if that spoils your point.
44 paulcedron
Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(you repeated the question, champ)
Now, now, now champ........ Read my post again and THEN tell me where I repeated the question....
Learning to read was something that other kids at your school did huh, champ??
“do you think she will work at McDonalds when she returns, a failed woman”
Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i hope she is investigated for illicit enrichment and jailed.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/396368-denuncian-a-alicia-castro-por-presunto-enriquecimiento-ilicito
@48
Feb 06th, 2014 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haha, no ketchup, it just gets worse and worse but sooo entertaining.
ketchup?
Feb 06th, 2014 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and who cares?
only you, big mac eaters.
that's why you are so obese.
here we eat the real stuff: the best asados.
you don´t need ketchup for that.
@50
Feb 06th, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmm, true, there are far better things to eat than ketchup. But surely the point is that there is none and why there is none. Are ordinary Argentines as content as you with the fact that you are running out of, what should be, a widely available condiment?
Will you be as indifferent if the next item is sugar or washing powder, who needs them right????
@6 Let me help you. If the cost of Taranis were expressed in US dollars, it would be US$301,550,000. Does that help? By the way, if we had used US$, we have plenty and no difficulty in getting more. Good for us, eh?
Feb 06th, 2014 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 Your inferiority comples is showing. So is your inferiority.
@25 I'm afraid you're mistaken. The current estimate is about £36 billion.
Obviously not that poor. But all you have to be concerned with is where the missiles will impact when we fire them.
@31 Hilarious. If you go and pull that piece of corrugated tin (door) to one side, you'll see that you're still in argieland.
Do let us know when you have some objectivity and interest in actual debate.
What we are here for is to remind people like you that Britain cares about the Falklands and the Islanders. We are also here to laugh ourselves sick as argieland destroys itself and numpties like you try, and fail, to pretend that everything is fine.
Will you be letting us know when you reach a mental age of 5?
@34 Bit of information for you. The majority of Guardian readers are like you. Halfwits. Then there's the ones that “subscribe” because it's printed on paper that's soft and absorbent. Guess what they use it for!
@40 I'm afraid you don't quite understand. Problem is that submarine operations are secret and cannot be disclosed. However, whenever there's a reactor leak, we always trail it around countries we don't like. For the next few months, at least, you might be well advised, when eating fish, to turn off the lights. See whether it glows!
@44 And you're buying those jets because............?
@50 Barbecued growth hormones. Explains the size of argie heads. All empty, of course!
@44 PC - one of your best posts/comments.
Feb 07th, 2014 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Like they say, the history of Argentina during the Kirchnerismo would be like the film Titanic:
Two morons fall in love.
He dies, she survives.
And the ship sinks.”
ha leilard
Feb 07th, 2014 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0it is an old post.
i still think pretty much the same
P, Where do you get this story that we Islanders are Lazy and a drain on the UK Finances?
Feb 07th, 2014 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0FACT:
Since the 1880s the Islands have been financially Independent of UK for direct budget aid - ie for the last 130 years we pay our Govt Bills each year and have NO Debt.
FACT From 1880s to TODAY 2014- The Islands contributed large sums to the UK Treasury in Profits Tax on UK registered Islands sheep farms and profit taxes on UK companies who sell products to the Islands.
FACT - The Oil Exploration Programme 2010-2012 earned the BRITISH Economy about Half a Billion Pounds in wages paid to Scottish Oil Workers and UK Companies supplying goods and services.
FACT- Islands Economy gained massively as well in jobs and wages and business and taxes to our Govt on those wages and profits.
FACT- UK would NOT save the £80-100million(less than 0.5 of 1% of UK defence Budget anyway)if Br Forces withdrew from the Islands as they would simply be redeployed elsewhere - that number of troops would not be made redundant!
Oh and yes Friday 7th sees the arrival of a cruise vessel with over 400 Argentine Tourists - over 200 of them will travel out to Darwin Arg Military cemetery - guided there and back by Spanish speaking Islander Guides who will also tell them about the real UNBIASED history and life of the Islands - not the garbage fed by your Govt.
Feedback from the Cruise Ships is that the Arg Tourists really appreciate learning the truth and the other side of the story in a polite friendly way.
@55
Feb 07th, 2014 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done you FALKLANDERS, way to go.
@55
Feb 07th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well said.
Britain is proud of the Falkland Islanders. They've made the Islands a thriving business and community.
The Falkland Islands were formed with people from nations all over the world, but all of them celebrate the fact that as a Sovereign British country, they have the same rights, the same freedoms as all British people do wherever they are in the world and are protected by the Crown.
@55
Feb 07th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0they are all but envious of you.
And it looks like it will do MORE than “vibrate if you put 20 cents into it” -- unlike other countries' pride and joys.
Feb 07th, 2014 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Paulcedron
Feb 07th, 2014 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe we should help out all those impoverished people by redirecting the £2m/year we send in foreign aid to Argentina...
nice technology but does it help the flooding back home?
Feb 10th, 2014 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 06th largest economy on the planet not poor, not powerless and nit declining anytime soon
Feb 10th, 2014 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our flooding will go, but Argentina's economic collapse will continue unabated.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hope you suffer more power cuts and the sewage in the streets!
#61
Feb 10th, 2014 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who knows. It is named after the Celtic god of thunder. Maybe with the advance of software it will be able to soar into the heavens and intercede on our behalf.
64 Hope your comment is precise but in the meantime I would like to see a funraise for charity to help these folks who have lost so much in so little time.
Feb 10th, 2014 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@61
Feb 13th, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The same way that Argentina's 'Pamper' jet trainer helps flooded Argentines.
@61
Feb 13th, 2014 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They never sold that many Pampas jets.
All of them went to the Argentine forces.
No-one else wanted them. Not even the Americans, where it was offered as a full jet trainer rather than a turboprop, which is what the Americans eventually bought.
Maybe they would have done better calling it the 'Dodo!'
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