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Russia welcomes Gibraltar to the UEFA family
Pravda, Russia’s political newspaper associated with the Communist Party, welcomed Gibraltar into UEFA’s family in an article publish online on Thursday. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesyes. two real powerhouses: russia and... gibraltar.
Feb 14th, 2014 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0who cares??
You don't so why bother to comment?
Feb 14th, 2014 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gibraltar national football team...
Feb 15th, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0so funny. they are not a nation and they don´t have the slightest idea about playing football.
do you have a “national team” in the islets too?
@paulcedron Ya poor jealous miserable bastard .
Feb 15th, 2014 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Gibraltar, more recognition.....Its all good!
Feb 15th, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 1,3 out of morbid curiosity hows spains economy doing??
4 andy65
Feb 15th, 2014 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0really, you have a football team there??
do they play against the sheep or against the penguins?
i bet the penguins are a lot better than you lot.
they should play against the trolls, there's certainly enough of them about all the time...
Feb 15th, 2014 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0#6. Paul I would like in on that bet, but you are an Argentine so it's a safe assumption you will not pay.
Feb 15th, 2014 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 03 paulcedron
Feb 15th, 2014 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why shouldn’t Gibraltar be members of UEFA. They have one of the oldest Football associations in Europe; older than Germany Spain and Italy. San Marino, The Faroe Islands and Malta are member so why not Gib? I guess the powers within UEFA are more liberal and less bigoted than you. After all Gibraltar has its own parliament, government, laws, tax system, currency, postage stamps, judiciary, police force, immigration and customs policies etc, This is more than some UEFA members such as Lietchenstein or San Marino.
What do you mean Gibraltar knows nothing about football? They know enough to draw against Slovakia. They have even beaten Tibet! Your just being petty and mean spirited.
The Falklands are active participating members of the International Island Games Association. . Other members include island communities from Sweden, (Aland, Gotland) Greece (Rhodes) Estonia (Saaremaa ) Norway (Froya) the Caribbean (Caymen Islands), Spain (Menorca), the Channel islands (Jersey, Sark) plus Bermuda, the Faroe Islands and others.
The Falklands have sent representative teams to the Commonwealth games as well as representative cricket teams to tour the cricket playing islands in the Caribbean and elsewhere.
You do appear very small minded in your bigoted views. You should try to be more of a free spirit. The people of both the Falklands and Gibraltar are decent people and deserve better than your churlish spirit.
Not, of course that your petty spirit is going to bother anyone there.
@9: As much as I agreed with your comment, I have to point out that Åland (Ahvenanmaa) is actually Finnish and not Swedish. It's Finnsh territory with Swedish speaking people and has been since around 1922. In the agreement (under which they almost went to war...but not quite) they agreed that the territory should be Finnish as long as the population could keep their culture and traditions to which the local population agreed. This is the main thing: the population were consulted :) The league of nations did do a couple of things right!
Feb 15th, 2014 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Feb 15th, 2014 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0You won't get an answer from the Argy Paul on the Spanish economy. It is flatlining, they have managed growth of 0.3 % but they are crippled with 26% unemployment.
In stark contrast, the UK has been growing at 2.8 % and increasing rapidly.
Paulcedron
Feb 15th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“gibraltar national football team...
so funny. they are not a nation and they don´t have the slightest idea about playing football.
do you have a “national team” in the islets too”
Look up the definition of NATION so you look less like an idiot next time.
10 Boovis
Feb 15th, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite right. I stand corrected. I was aware something like this was the case. I culdn't remember which way around the settlement was. Some Argentinian s have suggested an “Aland” like solution to the “Falklands/Malvinas” problem. Of course, as yu say, this must be with the consent of the local population, which if highly unlikely.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26201013
Feb 15th, 2014 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“They have even beaten Tibet!”
Feb 15th, 2014 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 09.
rupert
that was the best answer, a bit naive but the best no doubts.
it does not mean too much in football terms, you know.
it means nothing really.
but at least you were the only one who was not off topic.
the rest of the halfwits, as always, talking nonsense.
Paul Cedron obviously hasn't yet learned to research before making trollish inane remarks around here.
Feb 15th, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0shut up gordo trolo
Feb 15th, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 Paul
Feb 15th, 2014 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“t does not mean too much in football terms, you know.”
Correct. The Gibraltar team enjoy playing football but I doubt they will be worried about not winning major competitions.
@3 Far more right to be called a “nation” than your corrupt, criminal, deviant, genocidal, larcenous and mendacious “state”. Been there for a hundred years longer for a start.
Feb 15th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, the Falkland Islands has a national football team. It also has a national cricket team.
Of more interest to you will be that the Falkland Islands Rifle Association dates back to the 1880s.
@6 The Falkland Islands national team plays by the “old rules”. Under the “old rules”, corpses have to be removed at regular intervals. Many members of the Falkland Islands national football team are also members of the Falkland Islands Rifle Association. Want a game? Check out the supporters club!
@12 “Nation may refer to a large group of people who share a common language, culture, ethnicity, descent, or history.” Rules out argieland. No culture. No shared ethnicity. No shared descent. No history. Due to the fact that they keep changing it. But they are common. Like mongrels. Mongreland!
@17 Lame. Like your state. Lame gonorrhea!
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Feb 15th, 2014 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0scary...the keyboard warrior strikes again while he shits his pants
lol
#3
Feb 15th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It doesn't matter if they are useless at football. They have been given International recognition. That's what irritates your miserable soul and you just have to accept it. Tough titty !
Russia welcomes Gibraltar
Feb 15th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As does the rest of Europe,
its just a game number 20,,
but as far as you are concerned,
its just not cricket is it lolol
21
Feb 15th, 2014 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the thing is that like the kelpers and the rest of the parasites / squatters, they are useless at everything,
22
cricket?
lol
So now that they recognize Gibraltar, Communism is OK with the Anglo-crowd marauding this board.
Feb 16th, 2014 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, do they have consistent, unshakeable core values...
Check Mate.
Non sequitur!
Feb 16th, 2014 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils is nothing if not consistent.
YOU CANT ARGUE.
#23
Feb 16th, 2014 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Au contraire ! They are rather good at getting up Argieland's impotent nostrils.
They just get on with their lives while folk like you desperately jump up and down ineffectually insulting them because of your innate jealousy.
You see a little community peacefully trying to make a modest success of their lives and you don't like it because your lot have made a complete arse of theirs.
#24
Is Russia a communist country now ? It doesn't look like it from the distribution of wealth in the population and their attitude to business..
@23
Feb 16th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the thing is that like the kelpers and the rest of the parasites / squatters, they are useless at everything,”
If the Falkland Islands Rifle Association is useless then why don't you volunteer to be a target? They're sure to miss you from 25 yards if they are as bad as you say, but if I were you I would insist on a 3 mile gap between them and you and lie with your face kissing the ground.
The Gibraltarians are good at giving Spanish workers employment that Spain is too useless to provide.
The world’s aircraft carriers and LPHs compared
Feb 16th, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://twitter.com/stephengib1/status/424702477490225152/photo/1
I can identify all but one,
Bottom row 4th from the right,
It looks like Spain and ? not sure, [anyone]
click on page,,it will grow..
Briton
Feb 16th, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Aussie's have the other one.
http://www.navantia.es/ckfinder/userfiles/files/sala_pr/folleto%20LHD_marzo_para%20navantia_ingles.pdf
http://www.navantia.es/ckfinder/userfiles/files/sala_pr/folleto%20LHD_marzo_para%20navantia_ingles.pdf
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Feb 16th, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exports $125 million
Export goods wool, hides, meat, squid
Main export partners Spain 77.4%, UK 9.4%, US 4.9%
Imports $90 million
Import goods fuel, food and drink, building materials, clothing
Main import partners UK 63.2%, Spain 30.3%, France 3.6%
FDI stock N/A
it seems spain still is the main export partner of the islets and one of the main import partners.
gibraltar on the other hand is just a tax and smugglers haven
29 Patoruzu
Feb 16th, 2014 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you very much for that,
It looks a little square,
But the cut away is very good,
I should have known it was Australian, but I just could not think,
But a very nice ship,
Thanks again.
.
@30 Paulcedron
Feb 16th, 2014 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you very much for that post.
You proved two things:
1/ The Falkland Islands run a trade surplus and are therefore economically viable as they are.
2/ Spain is quite happy to trade and deal with the Falkland Islands contrary to all efforts by Argentina.
If we start comparing things than Spain obviously has one of the best world health rankings in the world.It is the 7th best in the listing of 190 nations while Great Britain is in 18th. So what is better two carriers or a good health system for all. I know for which I would vote.and you?(and the USA is placed 37th!) and FRANCE NUMBER ONE./ Argentina is listed in 73 place.
Feb 17th, 2014 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0source:Thepatientfactor.com
#33
Feb 17th, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would not dispute the rankings you have quoted in any great depth however different sites have different results. Not withstanding, Spain figures high in the lists.
I would make the following observations.
Do these figures relate to efficiency or clinical excellence ?
Looking at national expenditure, Spain has been in receipt of large subsidies from the EU.
From it's accession in 1990 to 2012, Spain has received a net figure of :-
93,631 million Euros from the EU
In the same period, the UK has made a net payment of 99,083 Euros TO the EU.
So, Spain has had a massive amount of free money to spend on it's infrastructure and presumably it's health service, partly gifted by the UK !
hear hear,
Feb 17th, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ross
Feb 17th, 2014 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How healthy is 25% unemployment?
Not very I am guessing.
*34 Great Britain also received its share of aid after WWII from The Marshall Plan.4 billion USD in aid to be exact.Whereas Spain received NIL and had to pick itself up by the straps of its boots during the 40s,50s,60s and 70s before it joined the EU.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0so it is fair that The UK had to pay in more into the Eu as they were an affluent nation by the time Spain joined the EU.or did you expect Spain to pay in more into the EU than GB after the financial help they received from the Americans?
Oh no. Spain was fascist and neutral during WW2 and then didn't get to share in the Marshall Plan!!!
Feb 18th, 2014 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whose fault is it that they were poor and Britain wasn't.
Fascist Spaniards on one side and freedom fighting Brits on the other. They each got what they deserved.
#37
Feb 18th, 2014 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are trying to compare apples and oranges.
Our country bankrupted itself in WW2 taking on the fight before the USA finally joined in. You could say that we paid our debts with lives.
$4 billion equated to £1 billion. Trifling compared to the 93, 631 billion Euros Spain received
Why did Spain need any help ? Their damage was self inflicted. In what way did WW2 affect their economic performance ?
Why could they not recover and prosper with decades of peace ?
Why is it fair that the UK taxpayer should pour money into developing Spain ?
We could have used this money to improve our roads, railways and NHS service.
Spain got a free ride for 20 years and now look at it.
Anyway you were vaunting the Spanish Health service. All I said was that they got a huge subsidy -partly from the UK -to bring up the standard of their healthcare. If we had had the same amount , we could have been at the top of the list.
#37: “Great Britain also received its share of aid after WWII from The Marshall Plan. 4 billion USD in aid to be exact.Whereas Spain received NIL ”
Feb 18th, 2014 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0- The UK received about 3bn USD from the Marshall plan, about 85% of which was aid. This was to assist in rebuilding after the devastation caused by fighting against a tyrannical Nazi regime and thus ensuring that there was a free Europe after the war.
Spain did not take part (apart from the Blue Division, but the less said there the better). Franco later pursued a policy of isolationism and thus Spain is solely responsible for its own poverty until it joined the EU.
“So it is fair that the UK had to pay in more .. as they were an affluent nation by the time Spain joined the EU.or did you expect Spain to pay in more into the EU than GB after the financial help they received from the Americans?”
This is the precise purpose of the EU Development Fund: to bring up the poorer nations to the level of the richer ones. Howver, the salient point made is that Spain's Health Service has been, in the large part, funded by the rest of Europe, while the UK has to fund itself.
In fact, looking at the figures, it could be argued that Spain has directly received about €93bn from the UK (as the net receipt / contribution figures are so similar) which has been spent on infrastructure.
I'm not arguing with the reason for the funding - but to claim credit for Spain building a health service 'on its own', or to claim that the aid the UK received was in any way comparable, is false.
*38 we are discussing the ECONOMICAL not the POLITICAL.Leave the politics aside.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*39 4 billion is worth around 40 billion in today´s figures (please, correct me if I am wrong). This is a lot of money that quickly put The UK and Germany back on the economic track. A huge advantage over Spain which had no economic help to rebuild its infrastructure after the Spanish Civil War.There would have been mass starvation if Argentina had not given Spain a huge amount of aid.So by the 1989s when Spain joined the EU, Great Britain was an economic power house compared to Spain.It is only logical that Germany and Great Britain helped out a poorer country like Spain just like the USA did with Germany and Great Britain.Everybody has had outside help just like Spain is now helping out other poorer Nations in the EU.
*36 I also find it remarkable that a country with an unemployment rate of 25% has one of the best social health systems in the world.
My point was and still is that Spain ONLY has a health service due to countries like Britain which have pumped Billions of THEIR money into Spain.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When we joined the EU, our people understood it to be a free trade area.
Nobody told us that we would be pumping billions of our tax money into a country that sat on it's backside for decades dreaming about maňaňa.
By the way, we were still paying off a loan from the USA in 2006, in addition to the EU payments.
In 2012, Spain actually contributed 216 Million Euros to the EU--the first contribution since 1986.
My arithmetic was wrong, Spain actually received 95,151 billion. The UK PAID 113,120
http://www.money-go-round.eu/Year.aspx?year=0
britain's debt mountain reaches £1.39 trillion, equivalent to 90% of the entire economy.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so, the uk has the highest gross foreign debt of any european country
they are the largest debtors to the eu.
and they still owe to argentina for the supply of food during ww1 and ww2 , not to mention the 4000 argentines who fought for the uk during the last world war.
and all of that less than 100 years after the last british attempt to invade buenos aires.
so stop whining britontos
#43
Feb 18th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, what does this have to do with Gibraltar and UEFA.
Explain to me why Britain is the largest debtor to the EU. Have we borrowed the £1.39 trillion from them. We have handed out almost that amount to the EU to give to beggars like Spain.
It is nice to think that there were some Argentinians with a moral conscience.
Stop moaning Hispanicos.
chuckle.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#41
Feb 18th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was dealing with pounds Sterling. The rate of exchange then was $4 to £1.
So your $40 Billion would equate to £ 10 Billion today which is a useful amount but only a tenth of the UK's contribution to the EU in 2012.
I would have to agree that the British ARE fools. Could you imagine Spain or any Spanish speaking country handing over this amount of money to an Anglo ?
Ross says:
Feb 19th, 2014 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0“*38 we are discussing the ECONOMICAL not the POLITICAL.Leave the politics aside.”
I say:
No! I'll discuss whatever I wish.
“Whose fault is it that they were poor and Britain wasn't. ”
Feb 19th, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0britain is poor by definition.
it is a small, poor island.
the richness they used to have, was product of the several lootings to their former colonies.
guess that does not count.
#48
Feb 19th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happened to all the loot that Spain forcibly extracted from their colonies ?
#41/36
I also find it remarkable that a country with an unemployment rate of 25% has one of the best social health systems in the world.
Why ? It has been paid for by contributions made by the EU.
Any country getting massive freebies could do the same.
It is a small, poor island.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, very small, tiny minute its so tinsy weenie you need a magi glass to see it,
And yet this tiny weenie island beat and humiliated a great big country bully like Argentina.
Still,
Not to bad,
..
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