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Drug-trafficking controversy in Argentina involves several ministers
As the debate over drug-trafficking in Argentina heats up, a leading official from the government of President Cristina Fernandez Security has said he supports Uruguay’s decriminalizing model that recently legalized the growing, sale and smoking of marijuana. Read full article
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Feb 18th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they are all to busy arguing over Scotland at the moment...lol
“Drug-trafficking controversy in Argentina involves several ministers”
Feb 18th, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No?????? Really?????
They import 700% more ephedrine ( for meth ) than they did a decade ago. I think most it goes to Spain.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the many Rg “models” or should I say mules confirm.
Berni was swift to reject Rossi, for mostly political reasons but he said something correct, but he forgets to add that the kitchens and factories who refine the cocaine are here. In fact it has being for quite some time as paco which flooded the streets over 10 years ago is made from the left over’s of cocaine refinement.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This problem has an exceptionally simple solution: EXTERMINATE the demand, and the supply extinguishes itself.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have identified the source of the demand:
http://www.washingtonstatesearch.com/United_States_maps/United_States_map/maps/United_States_map.jpg
http://www.washingtonstatesearch.com/United_States_maps/United_States_map/maps/United_States_map.jpg
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Feb 18th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Somehow the victims of islamic terror attacks remain overwhelmingly Muslim too.
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Feb 18th, 2014 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your insinuation is absolutely retarded, pathetic, and utterly and irrevocably UNTRUE.
To compare Argentina with Colombia, Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, or Central America in drug-violence completely disqualifies you as a thinking sapient.
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Feb 18th, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep dancig to the tune of the “Angelitos de la Yaqui” in Mendoza... You will be in Mexico in no time.
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1664466-quienes-son-los-angelitos-de-la-yaqui
Argentina is the process and refinement center of the Bolivian and Peruvian cocaine that goes to Europe. Argentina consumes 40% of it (UNODC 2012).
Chapo Guzmán must be good friends of Capitanich as Chaco has a important a hub for making and distributing new synthetic drugs as well, under the guidance of the Sinaloa drug cartel.
You can blame Europa and the US if you like, but the origin is in Peru, Bolivia and Colombia. And the dead, the crimes and ALL that comes along with it will be Argentine for the Argentines... As you like it.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20787714,00.html
Feb 18th, 2014 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, nice societies they got up there.
WOW!!! clear thinking!!!
Feb 18th, 2014 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's like Kryptonite to you “La Campora” Trolls isn't it Tobi???
Looks like CabezaDura2 has just taken you back to school.
Why did I say “taken you back to school”??? It's clear from you comment at 5 that you never attended one.
Toby,
Feb 18th, 2014 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are plenty of dead eyed kids juggling etc in traffic all over the country so they can buy their paco.
Rosario has shoot outs for gosh sakes
Drug Dealers stormed a newspaper in your home town to stop the press
Are you deaf dumb and blind?
LOL!
Feb 18th, 2014 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So this is why Think is hiding on the thread about the missing fishermen giving it hell for leather. PMSL.
...and on this thread Toby has decided that his country has found itself a drug-producing nation through the fault of the USA.
it is true that there are more “cocinas” of cocaine managed mostly by peruvian and bolivian cartels now.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0anyway, how much can they refine when you compare it with bolivia, colombia or mexico?
it is also true that cocaine is not produced here because neither the climate nor the soil are apt for that.
now, for the imbeciles who opine knowing nothing about the issue, the ephedrine was imported to be exported to mexico and the u.s., not to produce methadone here.
read la ruta de la efedrina, you yankeetw@t
Yes it was exported back out as meth.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree completely
but not all of it.
13) The cocaine that arrives in Argentina is mostly Bolivian and Peruvian. The Colombian cocaine is aprox 90% of the cocaine the USA consumes. The rest of Colombian drugs travel by Venezuela who's gov't is allied with the Farc. Argentina has a good connection with Europe so obviously its Peruvian and Bolivian cocaine that ends up in Spain and onwards.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby I thought you'd be happy. Argentina uses drugs and produces its own. No need to rely on importing from other countries.
Feb 18th, 2014 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a joke Tobers; don't get your knickers in a twist. LOL!
Meanwhile, what is happening to TMBOA? Haven't heard anything much that has actually come from her in recent times and the rumours are mounting that all is not well. There is an ever-increasing amount of speculation that she is ill and given the dire economic state her State is in it is little wonder. To think how popular she was just a short time ago and now it is really hard for even staunch supporters to her recovering. Tick tock.
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/rosarios-rising-violence-and-its-roots-in-mexican-cartels
Feb 18th, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The governments of first Nestor Kirchner, and then his wife and successor Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, proved unwilling to regulate this trade -- unsurprisingly given it was the source of much of their campaign financing. Pharmaceutical companies were some of the Kirchners' biggest campaign donors, particularly during Cristina Kirchner's presidential campaign in 2007, according to a 2013 report by International Assessment and Strategy Center (IASC) fellow Douglas Farah (pdf). Kirchner's campaign and affiliated party received almost a third of publicly declared campaign donations -- about $1.5 million -- from individuals connected to pharmaceutical companies with rumored cartel affiliations. Accusations are that the local partners of the Sinaloa Cartel bankrolled a large portion of Fernandez's campaign, playing a significant role in her victory.
ephedrine imports shot back up again after 2010 -- to 18.6 metric tons in 2011, and 17.3 metric tons in 2012. As of June 2011, Maruba, the Argentine-owned import company often used for precursor shipments,
I've said it before, I think the easy way to get rid of CFK, FatMax and the dirty 1000 is to give the USA DEA open season. Let them all rot in our jails.
“I've said it before, I think the easy way to get rid of CFK, FatMax and the dirty 1000 is to give the USA DEA open season. Let them all rot in our jails.”
Feb 18th, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well, we could make a try at least
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Feb 19th, 2014 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Meanwhile, what is happening to TMBOA? Haven't heard anything much that has actually come from her in recent times and the rumours are mounting that all is not well”
Could it be that the democratically chosen leader of Argentina is no longer in charge?
A “silent coup” by “Drug boy” Capitche and “we're not paying” economist Kissitoff, who are embarrassing Argentina inWashington and Paris?
CFK never made it to 2015.
Will the real government allow her to leave with her wealth?
Leave, alive?
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Feb 19th, 2014 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0The bulk of her wealth has already left Argentina
20 There's plenty of time to find it while she rots in jail.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW how many Marxist Billionaire Caudillos does SA have to have before they realize this might be one of the reason their countries fail?
“BTW how many Marxist Billionaire Caudillos does SA have to have before they realize this might be one of the reason their countries fail?”
Feb 19th, 2014 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0it is the 2nd time i agree with you.
it starts to worry me.
Me too
Feb 19th, 2014 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I only came here to discusss Scottish Independence... and most people are staying on topic. Unbelievable! What is happening to MP threads?
Feb 19th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should I sulk, or just start with random personal insults? Or maybe talk about Iraq instead?
What would an Argie Troll do?
But, but, we don't do drugs Captain Dismal said only recently!
Feb 19th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0You don't think he was telling porkies, do you?
Ha, ha, ha.
They can all kill themselves with drugs, booze and tobacco for what I care. A bullet in the head is quicker and cheaper though.
There are four sisters living with their grandmothers because their parents were killed by the cartel. The oldest was used as a mule when she was 11 until the grandmother took her in.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both of the parents took bullets to the head within the same 3 month period. Those scum bags won't be missed, but it represents a bigger problem.
How many dead beat parents are selling their children's well being for drug money? I guess being paid for sitting around and doing nothing wasn't good enough for them.
26. I think the most shocking thing for Americans is the filthy dead-eyed kids begging in the traffic, restaurants, shopping centers etc. It is something we do not see in the USA. It would not be allowed.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is very sad, has it always existed or just since 2001?
weird, the usual imbeciles are suddenly horrified about the drug problems in argentina, when argentina is not even between the 200 most addicted countries.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0even weirder, the ones horrified are british wannabes and americans.
world´s most addicted countries:
1. iran
2. UNITED KINGDOM
7. CANADA
8. U.S.
9. brazil
10. mexico
you lot are a joke.
28. The only reason Argentina is not on the list of addicted countries is because nobody is monitoring it there.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since you've obviously never left SA, I will tell you in civilized countries we DO NOT have children begging at car windows at stop lights.
Before 2001, those kids mostly consumed toluene based glues. Paco is a relatively new epidemic, it was unheard off before 2001.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also, starting in 2002, the number of these kids in the streets quadrupled. The same as marijuana consumption and hallucinogens in middle class teens.
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Feb 19th, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as i said, either you are another isolated islander or you are just a plain imbecile.
America's Forgotten Children
Homeless and Street Youth
http://web.archive.org/web/20030307072448/http:/www.stanford.edu/group/nightoutreach/streetforum/volume1/Issue3/Focus/forgotten.htm
The secret lives of Britain's child beggars
http://web.archive.org/web/20030307072448/http:/www.stanford.edu/group/nightoutreach/streetforum/volume1/Issue3/Focus/forgotten.htm
Paul, Have you ever traveled outside of SA? Or Argentina?
Feb 19th, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My guess is you have not.
I can say unequivocally that in the USA UK there are not filthy dead eyed shoeless children banging on car windows at stoplights.
Or masses of them sorting through garbage all night long
Or selling trinkets in Restaurants
and on an on
It is something everyAmerican comment about when they get back from South America.
It is shocking to us.
well, i visited both the u.s. (new york -the bronx rings your bell?-, chicago - englewood rings your bell?-, and l.a.), and the u.k.(london, edinburgh and glasgow) and of course, except in edinburgh, i saw begging children like in most of the big cities of the planet.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you first deny the addiction problems in the u.s., when clearly they are one of the main consumers, exactly like the uk.
so you have drug addiction problems and begging children.
stop being so brainwshed
You are a liar.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 034
Feb 19th, 2014 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that is your argumentation?
that i am a liar?
lol
you think you are the big thing and you are just a poor fool.
It is impossible to argue with someone who blatantly lies.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been to London at least 25x and never, not once saw kids begging.
NYC, Chicago, name any US city you want I've been to most of them and have never ever seen a kid begging.
So yes you are a liar.
Have you been to BA? Have you seen kids in the street begging? Have you seen the swarms of them at night going through the garbage?
Yeah you have.
PC if you even bothered to read the article you linked to before gobbing off you would have read that the 'British Child Beggars' are actually Romanian gypsies who have the right under EC regs to go and beg anywhere they fancy in the EU. You will also find them in Dublin, Berlin, Paris, and particularly Rome.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I visit the UK 2 to 3 times a year and like otheres on here I personally have never seen children begging. not at traffic lights, not in shopping centres, not in petrol stations not anywhere else either but unlike you I visit there regularly. You I suspect have never been to the UK.
it seems you both are not the brightest of the bunch, are you?
Feb 19th, 2014 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0of course we have both problems here, and of course the govt has a lot to do with that.
now, the problem is when you, as we say here, se suben al palito, watching everything from the above, as if it was not a common problem.
the excuse of the gipsy kids is as cheap as the excuse of the bolivian and peruvian kids in buenos aires.
the problem is not who, but where those things occur.
and again, either you have never left the islands, or you are too blind, or too liar or not too inteligent to realize this problem.
The Roma gipsy beggars of Park Lane: 30 Romanians camp out with soiled duvets and cardboard boxes in exclusive London street
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330542/The-Roma-gipsy-beggars-Park-Lane-30-Romanians-camp-soiled-duvets-cardboard-boxes-exclusive-London-street.html
Romanian travellers arrested as police swoop on West End street beggars
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330542/The-Roma-gipsy-beggars-Park-Lane-30-Romanians-camp-soiled-duvets-cardboard-boxes-exclusive-London-street.html
Any visitor to London must have noticed the large number of beggars one comes across in the streets.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330542/The-Roma-gipsy-beggars-Park-Lane-30-Romanians-camp-soiled-duvets-cardboard-boxes-exclusive-London-street.html
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Feb 19th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With your lack of intellect it is no surprise that you have missed the point: they are Roma, the dregs of Europe.
Just to make it clear: they are NOT English, Scottish, Welsh or N. Irish.
Idiot.
38. That link was posted from an article written in 1929!!
Feb 19th, 2014 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fool
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Feb 19th, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they are 1000 times more british than you. uruguayo del orto.
and their kids are 1 million times more british than you.
as if being british was a privilege...lol LOL
I bet that if we had a poll here asking if Argentina should become british, we'd be in for a big surprise
Feb 19th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@paulcedron
Feb 19th, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“it is true that there are more “cocinas” of cocaine managed mostly by peruvian and bolivian cartels now.”
“as cheap as the excuse of the bolivian and peruvian kids in buenos aires.”
Refreshingly honest that you recognise just blaming the Peruvians and Bolivians is cheap ... even if you do it yourself.
PD:
“it is also true that cocaine is not produced here because neither the climate nor the soil are apt for that”
“Cocaine” is produced in a lab or “cocina”. Coca is (normally) grown at altitude. You are an embarrassment to the education system. Please leave the defence of Argentine dignity to the intelligent and educated Argentinian posters like CD, Optimus and Magnus.
Thinking the trolls have been dipping into their own supply of low-grade coke, their brains are melting. ..
Feb 19th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 043.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i am not blaming the peruvian and bolivian kids nor qualifying them as the dregs of south america, like your friend chris did.
the responsible of that situation is the govt.
probably you don´t understand the difference between begging children and drug cartels, do you?
drug cartels here are peruvian, bolivian and colombian.
that is a fact.
and yes i blame them and the govt for the current situation here.
guess you need to get more informed before posting.
The headline makes it sound like the ministers are accused of drug trafficking themselves - maybe in Paraguay...
Feb 19th, 2014 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've seen people begging in both the UK and USA but I have NEVER seen children begging in either country like I have in BA. I've also seen a lot of “professional” beggars in the UK. They aren't begging because they are hungry, but because they are lazy and they can actually get a decent income by doing it! I suspect a lot of Romas are in this category - they could clearly afford to travel to the UK.
Feb 19th, 2014 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've seen beggars in the UK with mobile phones!
I even knew a group of beggars who would commute from their homes 15 miles away in Livingston into Edinburgh each day in order to ply their “trade”. They were most definitely not starving!
If you are ever in the UK try offering a beggar a meal or drink instead of money and see what response you get!
The true ones in need are the ones left on the street in Edinburgh at 2am on a bitterly cold January morning - and you will see very few of those.
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Feb 20th, 2014 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting post. I gave a young teenage girl who was begging in London £5 once. She had me hook line and sinker; she looked filthy and had really old smelly clothes on. She told me her parents had thrown her out of home. Anyway, the moment I handed her the fiver she ran off laughing and joined two other girls who were clean and dressed in fresh clothes and the three of them kept running and giggling their heads off all the way down Victoria St.
I saw another young woman get offered a hot drink and a meal, also in Victoria St, and she asked the lady (who was actually an MP) who was offering if she could just have money instead. The lady said no she would only buy a meal and a hot drink to which the woman said 'okay buy me a cappuccino from Starbucks or don't fucking bother'.
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Feb 20th, 2014 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0”well, i visited both the u.s. (new york -the bronx rings your bell?-, chicago - englewood rings your bell?-, and l.a.), and the u.k.(london, edinburgh and glasgow) and of course, except in edinburgh, i saw begging children like in most of the big cities of the planet.“
Paul,
I don't think you travel much.
I have never seen children begging in London or the UK.
Nor have I seen them in North American cities, LA, Detroit, San Francisco, Miami, Portland, Toronto, to name a few.
When I recall seeing children begging, certain cities come to mind, Lima, Bangkok, Havana, and more.
Lima was the worst. Driving from the airport to my hotel, I saw emancipated skeletal bodies laying in the gutter.
However, nothing like what we hear of Brazil,
”There are, according to UNICEF, around 12 million children living by their wits on the streets of Brazil. Some have families they see from time to time, but a huge number are simply abandoned. Sleeping in doorways or on beaches at night, they swarm over the big cities in packs -- there are tens of thousands of them in Rio de Janeiro alone, and Sao Paulo and Recife have thousands more.”
http://www.stephenbrookes.com/international/2006/4/18/the-murder-of-rios-street-kids.html
Paul, little question, if you were traveling as a tourist why oh why would you travel to the bad/ugly parts of cities? Its like an American taking tours of the Slums of GBA. Hardly something most would do unless you were part of an NGO and they don't come here.
Feb 20th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0So please explain.
50 yank
Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0because i was interested in seeing the rebuild of the south bronx area even more than seeing the typical tourist circuit.
now we would like to visit detroit, but i guess we will go to carhue in the province of b.a.
are you sure you live in the u.s. and not in the islets?
Do you mean re-birth not re-build?
Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even that makes very little sense. What exactly did you go to see?
I am genuinely curious because I have heard that the Bronx is becoming trendy but I have never been there. I keep to nice parts of town. I don't venture out of them very often.
Yes I live in a major US city. My family, on both sides, have been in North America for almost 400 yrs.
so you are a yank and you don´t know a thing about the south bronx area, the grand concourse and stuff?
Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0there is always something interesting in the decadent parts of the cities, at least if you are related with architecture or engineering.
and no doubts there are some interesting old buildings there.
Nope but why would I? I have no interest in going to that part of town. What would be the point?
Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd much rather spend my time in gorgeous Manhattan w/ shopping, theater and dining.
I am sure there are parts of Lanus that are pretty too but I'd never go there.
lanus?
Feb 20th, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i doubt it.
but barracas, la boca, constitucion, yes.
they have to be areas that had some splendor in the past and now are in total decay.
anyway, you are just another snob
I actually considered buying a Petit Hotel in Constitution when I lived in BA mistakenly thinking the neighborhood would turn around. Thank goodness I didn't! It is a mess now and horribly dangerous at night.
Feb 20th, 2014 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0La Boca is gross, it stinks, its not pretty and if is SUPER dangerous. I went 1x and would never go back.
Never been to barracas.
I admit I may appear snobby but it is more like I am set in my ways. When you reach a certain age you can choose to avoid things you know you won't like. Its just like food, I love to try new things but I know the stuff I don't like and won't try them again.
“I admit I may appear snobby but it is more like I am set in my ways. ”
Feb 20th, 2014 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i know, i was just kidding.
you did well in not investing a coin in constitución.
like many transfer centers in south america it will be a complete disaster for ever.
i know you are not interested in argentina at all, but barracas and parque patricios are a good option to invest.
in barracas there are a lot of good buildings from the revolución industrial era, built mostly by the british, some of them transformed in housing complex.
and in parque patricios there are some interesting projects, but nothing finished.
both places are/ were pretty cheap.
57. I wouldn't invest there again. There's plenty of opportunity in the USA to keep me busy for the rest of my life.
Feb 20th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I saw some AMAZING property while I lived there. I made offers on some spectacular properties to live in not just for investment. One of a kind places with quality that you rarely see outside of Paris, London or NYC. I am still in love with a few of them.
I was very close to buying Corina Kavanaugh's apartment but after thinking it through it was too big and a huge restoration job that I didn't want to deal with. The people that ended up buying it absolutely ruined it. The took all the beautiful, original detail out of it and replaced it with contemporary. It is a tragedy.
BA is really not good about maintaining their beautiful private ( some public) architecture. When I lived there they demolished an amazing Petit Hotel a couple doors down from me and put up a cheap looking condo building. That should never be allowed. In the USA we have very strict rules, regs on what you can do with historic properties. BA should adapt some of them otherwise it will lose its character.
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Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The people that ended up buying it absolutely ruined it.”
well, that is what the “nuevos ricos” and “grasas” do, at least in argentina.
they have the money to buy it, but not the knowledge to appreciate some things.
many buildings, like the kavanagh, are patrimonio histórico, so you cannot change their facade, but you can do whatever you want in the interior.
it is impossible to fiscalize, but it should be forbidden to change their interiors too.
many of the different city authorities demolished or allowed the demolition of some valuable buildings and monuments.
still remember a wonderful house designed by wladimiro acosta in belgrano r, a labyrinth designed by burle marx in figueroa alcorta and salguero, a buidling designed by antonio bonet, all of them knocked down during the administration of “topadora” dominguez.
a complete twat
I used to love Los Patos (palermo I think?) and Estrugamou Palace. If I had to move back I'd probably live in either of those or the Kavanaugh. I like The Plaza San Martin Area a lot. Although it is pretty dangerous at night now.
Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW What the heck is happening in Palermo? I am shocked at all the violence there lately? It used to be a fairly safe area.
yes, los patos is in palermo (ugarteche and cabello) and palacio estrugamou in plaza san martín or retiro.
Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the palacio estrugamou is like the luxury version of los patos, but both are great.
anyway my favorite by far is the kavanagh.
what it is very poor in terms of design, are several of the new buildings in puerto madero.
some architects i know, also did a very poor job with some of the historical docks.
again, wonderful british buildings from the revolucion industrial, ruined by some developers and architects.
I hate Puerto Madero. It reminds me of The City Centers that are being built all over the USA. They're cheap construction, no style, sterile neighborhood with no soul. PM is remote and hard to get to too.
Feb 20th, 2014 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is the same reason I hate gated subdivisions ( country clubs in Arg). Terrible people and terrible construction.
You would have loved the 2 houses I had in Znorte. Both were owned by people who's name you'd know. I've been told they were famous houses. Although I never saw them in any publications. I would love to rebuild both of them here in the USA when I retire.
The Quinta was set on 25 hectares and it was Spanish Colonial outside and British Inside and gardens. I loved it, the only problem is it took 5 full time staff to maintain it and all of my friends thought it was a bit far out to go everyday.
well, it is always good to know that somebody has good taste for architecture and buildings in general.
Feb 20th, 2014 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0many people like the palacio estrugamou, for instance, but not too many like the kavannagh because they consider it as “boring and depressing”
clearly they do not know too much about architecture.
the other prob with puerto madero is the people who inhabit it, from boudou to the last ñoqui of la campora, passing by new vedettes and new rich.
agree about the barrios cerrados and many countries
with the exception of tortugas, hindú and few others, they are like an artificial recreation of a suburban neighborhood.
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