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Majority of Argentines want Cristina Fernandez to finish her four year mandate

Wednesday, February 19th 2014 - 22:50 UTC
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Over half the Argentines want president Cristina Fernandez to remain in office and to finish her four year mandate and at the same time reject conspiracy theories which pretend to force the exit of the controversial leader. Read full article

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  • British_Kirchnerist

    “only 17% support the official version that “concentrated power groups” are responsible for those problems. Another 37% point to a combination of both arguments”

    In other words over half of even this poll sample (and probably bigger percentages in the country given the way polling favours the better off) agree with Cristinita that there is destabilisation at play, and a full 17% don't see any other factors to blame at all. But even if the 37% are right and there's things the government could have done better (show me a government of which that isn't true? Cameron?!) that doesn't make the destabilisation right! And I'm very heartened by the people's overwhelming rejection of the real “conspiracy theory”, that Cristinita will or should leave before the end of her term =)

    So happy birthday to Cristinita, not her last in office and I still hope perhaps not even her second last =) Just had an brainwave, not a serious constitutional insight alas, but if they measured a four year term by the incumbent aging four years, Cristinita would be there indefinitely as she really is forever young and beautiful =)

    Feb 19th, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    “Given the anomic situation that is provided by the national government and under the circumstances of looting and chaos that the executive cannot solve nor knows how to do so, it is essential and urgent that Dr. Fernando De la Rua presents his resignation to the President's Office and give the government peremptorily. Otherwise, he will be responsible for the dramatic consequences provoked by his impotent management ”.... Signed. Sen. Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner December 2001

    This poll should have asked “Do you think CFK should finish her term or call for anticipated elections?” Instead of asking if she should step down or not... People dont want a another 5 president week.

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    @Stevie (the gayest user of Mercopress)

    You can also add up the 36% with the 37%, instead of the 36% with the 17%...

    Nixon was not even impeached after Watergate when he claimed down. Nowbody then claimed it was a destabilization or a Coup d’Etat. If you commit a crime while in gov't or you are unable for health or have pure incompetence

    Feb 19th, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    BK doesn't mean all that stuff. He is just a troll having fun pushing people's buttons.

    Feb 19th, 2014 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #2 The lovely Senator was right in 2001. Now what is the relevance - I know she hasn't aged a day just got more beautiful, but the situation is completely different. And Nixon, Watergate, come on - what “crimes” has Cristinita committed? Having different policies from your preferred ones doesn't count =) (And btw I'm not Stevie...)

    Feb 19th, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    @British_Kirchnerist
    We're close to 80% inflation and you still - STILL - support this horrendous subhuman? For the next months hundreds of thousands MORE Argentine children will have to go to bed with hunger, only because of inept governing from a corrupt fake-lawyer from hell.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    2 Cont-(Pressed enter unwillingly ) If you commit a crime while in gov't or you are unable for health or have pure incompetence to administrate the country properly, then you must resign office. Its plain simple. Congress should held power to remove this incompitent bi*ch.

    Enough of this bitching around seeing enemies and conspiracies everywhere. She has to call for anticipated elections now.

    She is a first class hypocrite for she truly was those peronist lawmakers who gave the Kiss of Judas to DLR in 2001.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    I wouldn't take these poll results at face value. Based on the voting results of these past elections coupled with the events that followed 2/3rds of the people I talk to are expecting her to step down within the year. There is fear that the corruption will continue, and that the next leader won't be any better.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #3 I'm no troll, I believe in my beliefs. Of course I could express my beliefs more boringly, but why would I want to do that...

    #5 What do the opposition propose? Austerity, neoliberalism? And you think that will REDUCE hunger and poverty more than Cristinita's policies of social inclusion and stopping the destabilisation? Seems most Argentines don't agree - in fact 64.8% of those polled want her to keep rocking on =)

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Looks like this poll was taken in the La campora office.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    @British_Kirchnerist
    Because 64,8% don't know what's next. In a couple of months this number will be cut in half and the ones still “supporting” her by then do it because they are afraid of complete mayhem or are brain washed.

    If you believe that 73% inflation generates social inclusion you are more pathetic than Comical Ali. You don't come across as a true believer, you come across as WEAK. Face it: It's all over.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    @2 CabezaDura2

    ”@Stevie (the gayest user of Mercopress)”

    Actually I am the gayest user of Mercopress and am quite proud to say so.

    Because gay really isn't an insult now is it!

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    11
    Anglotino
    But you dont go around saying things like “”We might not agree on much Cabeza but on this we're at one =)“”

    Bhrrr...

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #7 “I wouldn't take these poll results at face value”

    No in fact its probably biased to your side as polls are easier to take among the middle and upper classes - of course your personal circle of friends is likely even MORE biased towards your view than the poll but that means even less representative of the country...

    “There is fear that...the next leader won't be any better”

    Indeed, she's a hard act to follow =) Hope she picks a good candidate for 2015, like Timmerman, and continues to play a role in their new administration, if she can't run again herself. And then comes back in 2019 =)

    #10 “You don't come across as a true believer”

    Thanks, by true believer I take it you mean like a cult member, or brainwashed, so I'm glad you don't think I'm that...

    “you come across as WEAK”

    Weak how? I'm a Scot in Scotland so I personally am neither strong or weak in Argentine politics. But my side is still in power, last time I checked, and this poll says most people want it to stay there =)

    #12 Man if I knew my peace offering would lead to some homophobic slur on someone else, I might have kept it to myself! Though maybe not as the Snowden issue is pretty important - but since you brought that thread up can't you see a contradiction between saluting Snowden's courage and taking hte side of the people who persecuted Snowden by hating on the courageous Cristinita?

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    11
    Sorry, you are quite right... I wasn't thinking properly.

    13
    There is absolutely nothing courageous about CFK. You are deluded completely Stevie to compare her with Snowden.

    She is a fake lawyer, who came to be the president because she was the wife of somebody in politics.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Jonas, don;t bother with BK, he's a horney teen, enamored in lust for kirchner. What he know's of her policies? Nothing, not only does he not live there he has never been there.

    Bushpilot is correct that he is but a mere troll that loves to kick the hornets nest.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #14 “Sorry, you are quite right... I wasn't thinking properly”

    Good to see you be a man and own up to that. Though just so you know, I'd stop short of calling it a turn-on =)

    Not only would I compare Cristinita to Snowden, if he'd got to South America as he planned, she might well have been his host rather than Putin. Either way its like the exile of Miranda of Venezuela - they both resemble his host Catherine the Great in some ways, though different ones =)

    #15 I actually know quite a lot about her policies from experience - that is from the bad experience of their opposite in Britain!

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    CabezaDura2

    Thank you and forgotten already!

    As for British_Kirchnerist, don't worry about him. He finds CFK hugely attractive and living in Britain he knows nothing about how her failed policies affect the average Argentinean that has not be able to fleece the public like she has.

    I mean look at his logic:
    “In other words over half of even this poll sample... agree with Cristinita that there is destabilisation at play”

    Because if you use his logic, then nearly 3/4 actually do NOT believe it - 36%+37%=73%!

    Using British_Kirchnerist's logic of course.

    Thanks BK, all you did was make CFK look bad!

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    16
    CFK would have sold Snowden out to the Americans at the blink of an eye whenever she needed the US gov’t support for the pressing the courts in the US against the holdouts, wanted and needed dollars or even a photo or hand shake with President Obama.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l57rnMiahxg
    LOL’s

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (1) to (16) British_Kirchnerist

    Loving it ;-)))

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    Majority of Argentines want Cristina Fernandez to finish her four year mandate

    The headline is missing the last word of the sentence and should read:

    Majority of Argentines want Cristina Fernandez to finish her four year mandate now.

    Wocca wocca wocca!

    Chuckle chuckle

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @17, While he's no Stevie, you gotta admit though, Anglotino, BK IS all over CFK like a drag queen on Liza. So much so, I hear Liza's so depressed not being the real deal anymore, she's started wearing flannel and sweatpants.

    @18 Heck, she'd have sold him out for a sudden sneeze from Obama which she would have lauded and magnified as undying support for her claim on “Las Malvninas” and her take on the holdouts.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    So lovely to see Anglolatino getting along with cabeza :-)

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Who is Anglolatino?

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    A lot of Argy peeps claim to be Scots living in Scotland. Maybe its fresh air or Scotch mist.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    @24 - All too true..

    The Argentine Trolls pretend to be from wherever they feel they can achieve the most leverage.

    Leverage or influence is something they continuously fail at achieving :)

    This is a Brit taking similar Argentine action:

    I'm actually Cristina Fernandez. I'd like to say a big thank you to the Falklanders for showing me the error of my ways.

    I admit there is no genuine factual claim to your Islands, the lies and misinformation are a critical tool in my governing box to manipulate the unwashed masses (like my darling child Think, A_hole, Brit_Chic/Kirchenrist).

    I wish to openly apologize for the decades of aggression and unlawful discrimination towards your peaceful and prosperous 3000.

    I have learnt my lesson and will now concentrate of fixing the crumbling, corrupt nation that is Argentina.

    I would also like to apologize to Great Britain for the numerous lives lost as a result of Argentina's hostilities.

    I would also like to apologize for the financial costs incurred to ensure the Falkland Islanders remain free from my, and my predecessors plans for regional domination and colonialism.

    May I take this opportunity to apologize for the attempts at discrediting a proud nation who throughout history has always taken the necessary actions for the greater good (the UK ).

    My own strategies and strategic understanding cannot compare to the economic, cultural and military minds of the UK, or the UK's descendants spread throughout the globe.

    Most of all I apologize for my continued brazen behavior, I am neither considered, humble nor cultured in the ways of the world.

    Actually tell a lie (another one), my biggest regret is my complete lack of factual historical knowledge. I am only part to blame for this though, it is also the fault of big business and the manipulative private interests around the globe.

    Yours sincerely,

    Cristina Fernandez

    p.s. you can reach me on Twitter @bigblowylipsforyou

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @8 British_Kirchnerist

    Yes, you believe in your beliefs. From your comfortable Scottish home. Where you don't have to cope with police strikes and the subsequent looting. Or extended power blackouts during a heatwave. Or hyperinflation. Or be deprived of purchasing the foreign currency necessary for travelling abroad.

    Where you don't require private security patrols to ensure your safety. Where you don't have a leader who will schedule a football match at a very late hour to be televised exclusively to compete with a current affairs programme providing details of where your ill-gotten gains are secured.

    And the irony? The object of your romantic ( satirical? ) devotion isn't even a real socialist. HER marxism has the depth of a marketing slogan.

    She displays more devotion to her shoe collection.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    These Argies are easily pleased, you have to wonder just how bad a president has to get before they would want rid. I can't think of one foreign, domestic or economic policy that she has been successful in..

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    l hope she stays in power,
    She's the best General that we've got! lol!

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    three out of four believe “things in the country are bad or really bad”.

    ...and yet “64.8% don't believe Cristina should step down”

    I don't even know what to say about such stats. It's just difficult to believe or understand from a non Argentine perspective. Do they fear whatever comes next will be even worse?

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @8
    Good luck. You reap what you sow comes to mind. Good job you do not live there EH!!!!

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Whoever compiles the questions did a great job confusing the issues.

    As stated above, the ONLY question should have been was:
    Should TMBOA be removed from the presidency before we all starve to death?

    LOLs.

    I hope she stays on, who else could be so funny?

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    Dam if you took some of these Argentine trolls to the races they would loose a fortune -does backing a looser come natural?

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    She'll never make it to 2015.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    the thing is that cfk has to finish her mandate.
    hand over the power before her mandate ends would be a complete disaster, even bigger than what she is doing currently.
    we have already had that experience.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @ paulcedron, you guys must be kinky for humiliation and economic failure, you should have your asses out on the street to speedy her downfall

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Masked and Armed thugs taking over grocery stores, simply gov't controlled brownshirts intimidating everyone.

    For the Rg idiots who will claim this is democracy you have been brainwashed and are now braindead.

    Gov't will by decree raise teachers pay 1/2 of the current inflation rate.

    Axel, where are you? Axel, Love to talk to you about this! I told ya this would happen years ago.

    I have this feeling this is going to look like Caracas very very soon.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    The Argentina gov’t is nervous and loud about the events of Venezuela because it fears a contagion effect like the Arab spring

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_neuTroll_Observer

    ALIENS OUT!

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #37 is that actual facts you can present or is that circumstantial facts?

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    39

    That the Argentine government is very sensitive about what is occurring in VZLA is a fact; due to Many declarations of Argentine government spokesman like starting with the foreign minister
    http://www.perfil.com/internacional/-Timerman-Total-y-absoluto-apoyo-a-un-Maduro-contra-EE.UU.-20140217-0024.html
    http://www.perfil.com/internacional/-Timerman-Total-y-absoluto-apoyo-a-un-Maduro-contra-EE.UU.-20140217-0024.html
    http://www.perfil.com/internacional/-Timerman-Total-y-absoluto-apoyo-a-un-Maduro-contra-EE.UU.-20140217-0024.html
    http://www.perfil.com/internacional/-Timerman-Total-y-absoluto-apoyo-a-un-Maduro-contra-EE.UU.-20140217-0024.html

    To the declaration of D’Elia himself yesterday… So yes those are the facts and the lecture I make of it is that the Arg gov’t fears a contagion effect…. Ohh btw I've just found out, Rosendo Fraga actually agrees with me in his column in LNOL today.

    http://www.perfil.com/internacional/-Timerman-Total-y-absoluto-apoyo-a-un-Maduro-contra-EE.UU.-20140217-0024.html

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    I see the government is refusing to disclose the salaries paid to the president and the cabinet.

    http://www.cronista.com/economiapolitica/El-Gobierno-se-niega-a-informar-el-sueldo-de-Cristina-y-su-Gabinete-20140220-0093.html

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    41
    true.
    an absolute shame.
    it should be published because we pay their salaries with our taxes.
    it is public information, but the govt says it is a private issue.
    let´s see which judge takes the case.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    I can recommend the current(20/2/2014) copy of The Economist.

    The main report is “The Parable of Argentina” - What other countries can learn from a century of decline. Excellent reading!

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Am I right in saying that these 64% is really the 64 people out of a hundred people they asked,,

    am I also right in thinking they did not ask the millions of Argentine people,

    perhaps a quick referendum would solve the issue better.

    just a voting thought..

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    44Good question

    I assume the consultants know what they are doing if they get to be paid for these polls.
    I’m certain if the question was “do you think Cristina Fernandez should not finish her 4 year term and call anticipated elections? “ you would have a very different results. Argentines associate a president leaving early with chaos. It doesn’t necessarily have to be that way.

    The people like calmness in the atmosphere though limited as it may be under the current gov’t… Sooner or later the conditions and reality pushes them to take the street one way or another.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @5 Shouldn't spend too much time “associating” with an amoral, demented, deviant, perverted, paedophile faggot. That's BK. He has this overwhelming urge to obtain a pair of the pants he thinks CFK wears. In reality, she doesn't. There must be no delays. Pull out the dildo and the butt plug. What he really wants is for her to break wind over his face. And suck it!
    @10 Just look at the brainless no-hoper. Does he suggest honesty or truth? Still after the CFK break-wind.
    @13 “I'm a Scot in Scotland so I personally am neither strong or weak in Argentine politics. But my side is still in power, last time I checked, and this poll says most people want it to stay there” And there you have it. A “thing” without an ounce of “reason”. Anyone think a fourth-rate “state” with 1/10th the population of its neighbour can “force” that neighbour to accede to their wishes? Wonder what it would take to obliterate such a challenge? If you watch the latam bloggers, you will notice the desperation and panic. We can only hope that, in time, they will kill themselves and leave our planet free of arse. Unlikely to happen, because they are cowards. We'll just have to kill them ourselves. I'm ready. Are you?
    @24 Correction. It's “Scotch pissed”. “Scotch means ”pertaining to Scotland“. Nothing wrong with ”Scotch“ skirt lifters. They do it all the time. The usual result is gales of laughter. ”Dicks“ need to be able to ”enter“. Most Scots women have to rely on Englishmen. But there is a problem. Most English men are reluctant to shag something indistinguishable from a sheep. Especially when farting is considered by Scots to be ”romantic“. The ”origin“ of ”bagpipes“!
    @29 Perhaps the ”correct” answer is that 95% of argies belives that CFK should fall down and smash her face against anything destructive. Perhaps there a national need to stamp her into slurry.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    So 64.8% of the Argie population is made up of Trolls.......quite frankly, I don't think she should step down now either ...it'd be too easy...she's got to stay until the bitter end and see the country implode under her feet.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_neuTroll_Observer

    @47

    We simply believe in democracy, something as obviously shown by your history, the UK does not.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    48. Toby, you don't know what democracy is, whatever you have in Arg is not anything close to what exists in the civilized world.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_neuTroll_Observer

    @49

    “civilized world”

    In that case why are you giving your opinion?

    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/eric-holder-says-mass-shootings-up-300-since-obama-took-office_102013

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    5 a year to 15 yes okay if you do the math its 300%
    whoopty do

    I hear there were 20 “virtual” kidnappings in Mendoza YESTERDAY alone!
    How many are not virtual?

    You'll never know what it is like to live in a civilized place.

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_neuTroll_Observer

    @51

    Yeah, sure 20 kidnappings, virtual or otherwise. I'm sure you are right.

    Why do you have the mentality of a 11 year old in thinking that just making up a completely confabulated figure will earn you more credibility?

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    http://tn.com.ar/policiales/mendoza-trece-secuestros-virtuales-en-cinco-horas_452006

    oops your are right it was 13 in 5 hours.

    Do you even live in Argentina?

    BTW in BA there are 17 protests going on right now, in case you are wondering:
    http://tn.com.ar/policiales/mendoza-trece-secuestros-virtuales-en-cinco-horas_452006

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    they have sussed her escape plan she will have to go down at the helm of her country

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_neuTroll_Observer

    @53

    I knew you would mention that. Half of those were proven already to be covers for drug deals, and the rest some enterprising con artist using the tactic to make some quick money. Once people catch on to the trick, it won't last.

    So what you really are saying that not a SINGLE person was kidnapped, much less harmed. Can't say the same about the USA can we?

    Feb 20th, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Most crime in Argentina goes unreported since everyone knows ultimately the police are involved.

    Feb 21st, 2014 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @11 Anglotino
    I'm the gayest poster etc. Take it to them !!!
    Best post ever!!! Massive respect!!!!

    You have more kudos than any silly troll here!

    Please keep posting your insights, esp. Chile etc. but please never get too involved in the trolls, they just want to bring you down!
    One day they may join us in the 21st Centuary, jeje!
    Stay strong, these trolls are so weak as they prove with homophobic comments, they have no ideas nor arguments...
    You are fantastic!

    Feb 21st, 2014 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Lots of talk in Argentina of expropriating companies that are “destabilizing the gov't” by raising prices.
    Heads of private business getting intimidated for speaking out against CFK
    All out of the Chavista playbook

    I've said this for a few years, look to Venezuela for your immediate future.
    And it is never more true as it is today

    When oh when will the sleeping Rg public wake up?
    Probably when its too late

    Feb 21st, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    @13 The people that I talk to are the ones supporting the country. We are called the working class. Ranging from lawyers, taxi drivers, to people harvesting crops for slave wages. A true leader endeavors to do what's good for the internal milieu of the country (opposition included), not to create a sharp divide while enriching themselves.

    The poll looks like it was conducted with government office workers. There are people that don't believe in anything except enriching themselves. They will change their political alignment, and stab anyone in the back to get what they want. These people are the reason why Argentina keeps going through these cycles. No matter who is in charge, these types will pollute the country.

    @British Kirchnerist- Why don't you pay us a visit? Work here for a few months? Live among us? Deal with the same problems? I'm willing to bet you will not maintain some of your beliefs after that.

    Feb 21st, 2014 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tim

    Jonaz_BsAs I don't know where you got the figure of 80%; credit cards are taking a 43% (I think) to which you add 21% VAT plus life insurance and this is coming out near 84%. This article in the FT calculates 63% which surprised me, but seeing where it comes from it has to be believed.

    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/6b36d7c8-845e-11e3-b72e-00144feab7de.html#axzz2ty8t8WGY

    Feb 21st, 2014 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @48 Trollie...“We simply believe in democracy”.....is that a joke ?? democracy implies total freedom of the press... plus a few other things, absent in Argentina.....so, according to you, CFK did not try to close down or dismantle the Clarin group, or to silence her critics ...you have a distorted idea of democracy. It's like VZ's Maduro, trying to tell the world that his government is democratic...sure, depends which side you're on...if you oppose him, you've got a good chance of facing the firing squad....but carry on, if you like your presidents BS, it's your choice.
    And your #55..“Once people catch on to the trick, it won't last”.....it will last, because the problem here is that in a bad economy there is a growing number of con-artists, and they will always be one step ahead of the not particularly bright masses....there's a fool born every minute. Plenty of raw material for the con artists to survive comfortably.

    Feb 21st, 2014 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jonaz_BsAs

    @Tim
    Go to PriceStats.com. The 19. of February it was 5.627% monthly. Compounded monthly throughout the year, that is (1+5.627%)^12 - 1 = 92.89%. God knows what it is today, the trend is even accelerating.

    Feb 21st, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin

    59 Optimus
    Obviously that poll is distorted. The people that supports the country wan't to see CFK gone. They are just afraid to say it out loud.

    I couldn't agree more about your appreciation of what the working class is (and obviously how hard these clowns are trying to divide us based on worthless ideological statements). Just this morning I took a taxi and started talking to the driver to kill time as usually. This guy -early sixties and obviously a hard working person all his life- provided a brilliant insight about this gov't. Look, he said, I don't think these people are stupid or inept, they are purposefully destroying us, the ones that work.
    Everybody Argentinian should take a good look at Venezuela right now. What kind of idiot can seriously call Chavist or Kirchnerist rule a “democracy”?

    Feb 21st, 2014 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @63 TF a note on Venezuelan 'democracy'
    The PSUV is the 'ruling party'.
    Rafael Ramírez is the president of PDVSA. (the Nationalised Oil Company).
    He is also PSUV Minister for Energy and Petroleum. (Oil represents 96% of foriegn exports and is therefore almost the only source of $US.)
    He is also PSUV Vice-President for the Economy.
    So technically one of the most powerful men in Venezuela.
    He recently stated that he will bring peace and stability by denying gasoline supllies to the staes of Merida and Tachira (where protests have been most vehement).
    What a w*nker!
    Anyone reading this, could this happen in your country? (Argentina excluded for obvious reasons!).

    Feb 22nd, 2014 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    This poll is a bunch of BS. There's an old saying......“figures don't lie, but liars figure”. While December 2015 cannot come fast enough, It's highly likely she cannot finish her term. Tinman (A Jew) is in Saudi Arabia, the land of Wahhabi Arabs begging for oil for the coming winter. How desperate is that? He is lucky he is not buried to his waist and stoned. Is she is still in office by this coming winter, the winter's fuel shortage and power outages will end it for her.

    Feb 22nd, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    OBJETIVE FACTS VS WISHES AND WRONG LECTURES.
    I must say that i felt quiet when i read that the 64% of people thinks that c. f. k. should remain in office, and wait untill constitutional times in 2015, where we all will choose the new president for the country. The result of this poll shows that unless we have learnt something of these long and blessed 30 years of democracy and freedom, due to most people manifested that the president must remain in office.
    The other side of this result, is the fact that unfortunatelly many people still don't have enough dimension of the fight for power in the country.
    I'm not going to waste my time criticising the bastards who wish c. f. k. to leave office before 2015, this time, i just want to analize that beyond the respectable ideological differences that anybody can have with c. f. k's government, there are objetive facts that nobody should ignore.
    Economic coup d'etats have always existed, and powerful corporations apply that mechanism in the country every ten years, in fact, a financial coup d'etat made fell raul alfonsin's government in 1989.
    On the other hand, since 2007 untill 2013 there were six economic runs, however they couldn't made her fell, because the country isn't in the same deplorable situation that it was in 1989 and 2001, in fact, c. f. k's government isn't weak in absolut. Sadly, i must recognize that the last hard devaluation of the peso, was a battle that was won by economic power, due to the government couldn't continue to loss reserves, which are usually used to pay debts. Beside, it's necesary to say that powerful agrarian producers weren't selling their harvests, because they wanted to force the government to make a hard devalutaion.
    C. f. k's administration has walked on the precipice since it took office in 2007, due to hegemonical power won't never forgive the president her decision of recovering many of the recources that we had lost after 2 decades of neoliberal policies.

    Feb 22nd, 2014 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Axel please stop your awful incoherent noise.

    Feb 23rd, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Axel, you are a wasted space.

    Feb 23rd, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Lol!

    Feb 24th, 2014 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    Its encouraging to see that the majority of Argentinians support constitutional democracy.

    Feb 26th, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Lord, forgive axel, for he knows not what he does. Axel your CPU and OS is dated and no longer supported. Give it up.

    Feb 26th, 2014 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 70 Hepatia
    ”Its (SIC) encouraging to see that the majority of Argentinians (SIC) support constitutional democracy.“

    Yes, and ALL the Peronistas support TMBOA and all her fascist goons in the ”government”.

    Since we have had the pleasure of your absence for some time now, when did they let you out of the lunatic asylum?

    Feb 26th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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