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Argentina and Brazil fearful Venezuelan crowds in the streets could be contagious
The current political crisis in Venezuela is rattling regional organizations, has two of the leading countries fearful of the crowds in the streets, while Latin American left wing populism believes there is a concerted right wing effort to destabilize the governments of Venezuela and Argentina, according to Argentine political analyst Rosendo Fraga. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAh, the familiar sound bleated out about a “ vast, right-wing conspiracy. ”
Feb 21st, 2014 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I see two Truth Commissions coming, one to my North and one to my South. You can run, but you can't hide.
Sadly , they CAN run and hide !
Feb 21st, 2014 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Go
Feb 21st, 2014 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina and Brazil fearful Venezuelan crowds in the streets could be contagious
IT will happen they will not be able to stop it, the lefties are going down.
Perhaps now for those morons that continue to believe the things these incompetent leaders say, they will begin to start seeing reality for what it is.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have never seen a true leader refuse to take responsibility as much as there bimbos and continue to blame others for their failures.
Even little bird has flown the nest.....Maduro....follow him! Maybe the UN Humans Rights Commission will be paying the Bus a visit next year if he is still around then. I see Caracas catching up the Kiev in body counts.
Socialism works until they've stolen the last penny they can.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0That happened last year in both Venezuela and Argentina
Brazil is not too far behind
I've always said this is going to end with a bang not a whimper.
I don't want to get all pedantic but let us not lump all 'lefties' under the banner of Chavism and Kirchnerism. I wouldn't even call them socialists. Just saying'.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Both the governments of Argentina and Brazil have every reason to be worried.
It is very clear that Mr. R. Fraga is not aware and therefore he omits the real cause of the chaos in Brazil, Argentina, and Venezuela.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BAV's head of State countries are unable to manage their country resources that is why each country has elevated rate of inflation. In addition, Government officials are far away to distribute profit/gains to the public to balance out the equilibrium of equality distribution.
More over, the constant motion of public and private practice of corruption has negatively affected to the national reserve monies, international trade, social services and economic outputs.
After all, the political ideology of the Government in turn is irrelevant, but what is not irrelevant is the fact that each family has not meals to put on their table, no jobs, no education, no proper heath care and of course no security services.
The poor' s cloud of adequate opportunities are on their way, thus they cannot see better future for themselves, while the elite travels overseas, enjoys public funds and they have set such assurance and same motion to keep running for their future generations.
Kirk Nelson,
New York, NY
Students protesting against a right wing government = good
Feb 21st, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Students protesting against a left wing government =right wing students
Intersting how student Zeitgeist is able to change so quickly to suit the political narrative of the left
Based on the demeanor of most people, they will not strike on this scale until the money runs out, or if they are aggressively attacked by pro-government goons in a raid. I feel like the threshold for abuse of the average Argentine's financial freedom has not reached its peak.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I still feel like there are many that will allow themselves to be kicked on the ground for a while longer. Make no mistake, an all out strike is a possibility, and the K's will look for ways to shave away people's freedoms and assets without igniting all out conflict.
9. Hopefully the teachers will start the ball rolling!
Feb 21st, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the truck drivers will shortly follow and I can't imagine the farmers all that far behind them. What is left? The Gendarmerie can't be all that happy knowing that their wage increase only made it through a quarter of the year. Then again, if you recall the kirchnerites paid them off in December....imagine....60% to the Provincial police anyway:
Feb 21st, 2014 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/12/14/argentina-compensation-to-security-forces-that-helped-contain-police-protests-and-looting
Yankee when I return to visit again this late spring, my wife refuses to take any jewelry with her including her engagement and wedding and and she lived in Argentina for 40 years.
Peronismo and Kirchnerismo are not socialist ideologies.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kirchnerismo is mainly based on the left and kleptocratic peronismo wing and peronismo is mainly based on 20th century Italian and Spanish fascismo.
@4 A quote, ”Civil disturbance is typically a symptom of, and a form of protest against, major socio-political problems; the severity of the action coincides with public expression(s) of displeasure.“
Feb 21st, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So there must be major socio-political problems. What are they? Aren't ”governments“ supposed to put major socio-political problems right, so that the people can enjoy their lives? Aren't all these states putting things right by asking the people? Isn't double digit inflation good? Isn't lack of available resources good? Aren't regular power cuts good? Isn't it good to live in a country that can no longer support itself? Might the major socio-political problems be potty, puerile politicians with mad, mendacious ”models“? All these problems can be solved with a number of butcher's hooks and lengths of piano wire! Just a thought.
@10 Which teachers? And how? ”axel_arg“ says he's a teacher and as thick as they come. I read somewhere that, in argieland, ”teacher” is a job you try to get if you don't know how to do anything at all.
“Argentina and Brazil fearful Venezuelan crowds in the streets could be contagious...”...they should be, too. While the storm has been brewing in VZ for years now, it is directed specifically against the President, whom they want removed - and justly so. In Argentina, one gets the impression that despite CFK's incompetence, as long as the government doesn't start shooting protesters in the streets, things wont get as violent. In Brazil, there are dozens of protests, but many participants are being manipulated by interest groups, and don't even know why they are protesting...they've got to get their act together, that is, join forces on specific issues and be relentless until the rot in Congress realizes that the people have had enough. I believe that Congress will only act when it's members feel that their, and their families' personal safety is at stake. All members of Congress in Brasilia, as well as politicians on the State level, cost the country a fortune, with absurdly high salaries and benefits....not to mention what they steal....when the masses wake up, the s**t is really gonna hit the fan ...
Feb 21st, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just heard that Maduro and gang have just sent 3000 trops into San Cristobal. Here are some snippets from The Guardian (London) today
Feb 21st, 2014 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Members of the opposition have accused the government of President Nicolás Maduro of leaning too heavily on the military as well as police and civilian militias to squash opposition to his socialist government.
San Cristobal's vice-mayor, Sergio Vergara, a member of the opposition, said the government had already cut off vital services including public transportation and the internet, to crack down on what had been peaceful protests.
”What does the government want, a civil war?“ Capriles asked at a news conference.
David Smolansky, an opposition mayor of a district in Caracas, said the country was passing through the harshest wave of political persecution in decades with the response to the protests and the jailing of opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez. ”If this isn't a totalitarian system then I don't know what can explain what is happening in this country,“ Smolansky said.
The presence of 3,000 troops in a city of 600,000, Vergara said, was ”effectively part of an effort at repression being played out by the government across the country”.
Cristina Kirchner aimed at the Venezuelan opposition and students today and literally said to them almost literally “Wait to the next elections in 5 years time and try to get your man in….in the mean time you can’t complain against hyperinflation, insecurity, lack of jobs, empty supermarkets, freedom of information” all as if Maduro’s election last year was clean and democratic.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a disgusting and despicable who**re she is.
She is a Montonero # 16
Feb 21st, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 016. She's brain dead, just a puppet. A dangerous one.
Feb 21st, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina and Brazil fearful Venezuelan crowds in the streets could be contagious
Feb 21st, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes yes very true, run run, run for your life they have the,
Lergy , the plague the gymslip , the Zombie bite, measles , chicken pots , fleas ,
What utter cosh, but if this is all it take to frighten these two,
Then they have already been infected, With the truth ..lol
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I wonder if “No Money Pepe”, consort to the arse of TMBOA will be asked to mediate between all the rival militaries?
Feb 21st, 2014 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do hope so; somebody might assassinate the old twat.
Left or right people will not take it anymore they have to learn that if they want a good life they going have to work of course this will only happen when the money of the producers run out and when there is nothing anymore to milk, Set the place on fire “From the movie Good fellows”
Feb 21st, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14
Feb 21st, 2014 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“it is directed specifically against the President”
no, he merely represents and is the target. The anger is because of scarcity of basic foodstuffs and basic goods in the shops, rampant inflation (highest in the world), low and high level corruption, insecurity in the streets/ massive crime (24000 violent deaths last year = the highest non war-related in the world), the 'Cubanisation of the Gov and Society and Police Brutality and the the illegal incarceration of protesters.
Oh, and the 50, Cuban agents in VZLA. evem the Army is getting pissed off with this... (and the Army is not on the streets, it is the ill-trained National Guard, a seperate entity), and the secret police and 'motorizados' a Chavist militia that are shooting unarmed protesters.
Maduro is just the figurehead, the people are sick of the whole show.
@14 I agree with most of the rest of your post though! Thanks!
One has to admire the Ukrainians and other Eastern European nations, they are real hardened people by a history of tragedy, they are not soft and apathetic cowards like the Latins peoples of Argentina, Cuba, Brazil or Venezuela they know how to kick out a regime when they have too...
Feb 21st, 2014 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This venezuelan criminal hog must simply resign for people´s sake, but as the queen of botox won´t, since they are like a pest and being supported by many leeches hired in their governments. As many hired to post propaganda here and in many other sites throughout Latam.
Feb 22nd, 2014 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Venezuela now has a cuban regime controlling the government
Feb 22nd, 2014 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil and Argentina (governments) will soon start to reap what they have sown by allying themselves with the despicable regime in Venezuela.
Feb 22nd, 2014 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interestingly, no other governments of South America are worried about how their people will react to the problems in Venezuela.
Brazil is discretely disconnecting with Vzla, only some ALBA countries are still in support, although they have been fairly quiet too.
Feb 22nd, 2014 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The strong sensible countries such as Chile and Columbia will become more vocal as the situation develops as they need, and want to, distance themselves from the chaos.
excellent article here about the current situation;
http://caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/21/censorship-paramilitaries-abuses-and-some-blood/
http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/esporte/para-9-entre-10-torcedores-copa-deixara-imagem-negativa
Feb 23rd, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Foreign conpiracy? What a laugh. No need for one: Venezuela and Argentina's utterly incompetent and rampantly corrupt regimes have already sown the seeds of their own destruction.
Feb 23rd, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ilsen @22...you're right , I didn't express myself too well....I said the anger was directed specifically towards Maduro, because basically, all decisions emanate from him, and in dictatorial fashion...but you're right, lack of food, inflation, street crime, corruption, although Chavez' fault and now Maduro's , are the identifiable problems all Venezuelans are being subjected to.
Feb 23rd, 2014 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 Pinera has already condemned the government violence against the protesters to which Maduro responded angrily calling him 'carajo'. Such class.
Feb 24th, 2014 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maduro is losing it. .. in more ways than usual.
Feb 25th, 2014 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Massive demos planned for 26 Feb.....
Yes, it is contagious. I hope so for the good of Brazil and Argentina. The nightmare must end!
Feb 25th, 2014 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why not go back to a free market economy; shove the failed “model” right up the arses of them what invented it, and just get on with it. Any place with 2 dollars is beyond belief!
Feb 25th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even if we went back to the free market the government would still screw it up. They need to pay all the government workers and let the mafia do it job. Argentina is like Las Vegas in the 60s: someone once in a while hits the jackpot but in the long run the mob always wins.
Feb 25th, 2014 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristinita looking absolutely gorgeous in the picture I must say - and Maduro pretty dapper here too =) So a nice picture, shame about the biased distorted article and comments...
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