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Falklands: Timerman says Red Cross will help with identification of remains at Darwin cemetery

Wednesday, March 5th 2014 - 05:07 UTC
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Foreign minister Hector Timerman said that the International Committee of the Red Cross will help with the identification of Argentine soldiers killed during the Falklands/Malvinas war and whose remains are still in the territory claimed by Argentina. The UK would be informed at a later stage on the matter. Read full article

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  • RICO

    We are more than happy to talk about this Hector. Just open a consulate in Stanley.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    we are going to address the issue before the Government of Great Britain in order to have its cooperation in this worthy cause,” he concluded.

    Yes. Its Great Britain when they want cooperation, what happened to “English Pirates”

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    I believe the answer will be what it was last time.

    “The Government of the United Kingdom has no say over whether the Red Cross or anyone else can exhume bodies on the Falkland Islands. Please address your request to the relevant body that can give you authority - the Falkland Islands Government.”

    To which the Argentine Government will have a hissy fit, sulk, and then accuse the 'English Pirates' of deliberately trying to stop them from examining the body (possible hinting of them trying to 'hide' evidence), and then go into a whirlwind tour of all their sycophants, crying and begging blah, blah, blah.

    Even their sycophants are getting fed up of them though.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    Surely Hectoring Hector, the great humanitarian, would not stoop to playing politics with the bodies if dead Argentine soldiers, would he?
    The fact is that the Argentine sons buried on the Falklands are now the
    Falk lander’s sons.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    3LEPRecon- You are 100% correct! Ans the postiotion of the Falklands people is the same:
    These lads have rested in peace for 32 years in Falklands soil- allow them to continue to do so-or - exhume ALL of them and return ALL of them permanently to Argentina.

    Argentina,s choice.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    Look at the words. “The ICRC will help....” followed by “We are certain that the Red Cross will help.” Not quite the same are they.........one says they will, the other says they think they will.

    Typical Argie spin. And when M/s Castro addresses the UK Government on this what kind of reception does she anticipate, after her ill-judged and hectoring attack on Colin Roberts in the Guardian ? Why would the UK Government assist her in any way ? Silly woman, driven by a silly man to whom the truth is a mystery.

    Falkland Islanders will decide what happens in our country. If you want something, ask us.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    @Islander1 - I wholeheatedly agree. No compromise on that. Stay or complete removal including the fencing and shrine.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    agree totally with 7

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Nothing at all will come of this: Gollum is shit scared of ANY number of Falklanders, even two, so he will NEVER deal with them.

    And of course, without that, nothing CAN happen.

    Why is Gollum so STUPID?

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Why has it taken so long, 32 years

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    After the Illegal military invasion by Argentina.
    The Argentinian officers refused to be identify there own dead troops.

    The UK government should refer Tinman to the FI government and say talk to those people.
    This would force the Argies to recognize the Falkland islanders.
    And as documents will need to be signed for permissions to be granted. The FI government should only accept documents which just refer to the Falkland Islands as that.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Outlawcatcher

    Agree totally with 7&8. As an 82 vet I also concur with 10...why has it taken them 32 years to do this? Disgusting treatment to their fallen and I cannot see them dealing with the islanders direct so nothing will change!

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    LOL, You really could not make this shit up. So the UK must co-operate with Argentina simply because it suites Argentina. Timerman needs to go to some kind of finishing school for diplomacy and yes go and ask The Falkland Island government not the UK government

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Biguggy

    Two points come from the above comments. The following is a link to the funeral of an Argentine airman whose remains were buried in the Falklands, at Darwin, on the request of his family. I am assuming the FIG had to give permission for this to occur?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qmXJCqXag&list=LLK8l9AxzpjM2irKF6DygVGQ&index=11

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @13, Finishing school? Jiminy Christmas, Andy, he needs to go to *daycare* for diplomacy. He'd learn a lot. He may actually learn the words “please” and “I'm sorry” let alone that it's a “bad choice” to throw tantrums and lay lanndmines all over the place. Even the the argentine military would learn something like how to use a proper toilet rather than just defecating all over people's houses.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    One obvious problem comes to mind, you do just turn up and exhume the bodies willy nilly, there are legal requirements which must be satisfied through the legal channels and those are administered by the FIG. My guess would be that Argentina will have to apply through their coroner, therein lies the problem. Would they be prepared to do that?

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    “Soon, we are going to address the issue before the Government of Great Britain in order to have its cooperation in this worthy cause,” he concluded.”

    Correct procedure.....all foreign affairs for BOTS are conducted by UK Govt!!

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    even in death argentine soldiers are still being used as pawns in their governments political games. Disgusting....

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @16 They are terrified that the coroner (and FIG) would say yes.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @17 A_Voice

    The Government of Great Britain cannot authorise the exhumation of bodies in ANY British Overseas Territory.

    So the British Government would tell the Argentinians to pass on their request DIRECTLY to the only people who can give permission - the Falkland Islands Government.

    The Argentines tried this the year before last, and then tried to make it seem that the British were preventing them from identifying the 'beloved sons of Argentina', that they didn't give a crap about in 1982.

    The British Government even kindly forwarded on Argentina's request to the Falkland Islands Government, who sent a very nice letter to the Argentine government, stating that they were willing to talk about it.

    The Argentine government ignored the letter and the invite, proving that Argentina isn't interested in a) negotiating or b) identifying the bodies of fallen Argentine soldiers.

    This is another cheap political ploy by the Argentine government, who are ever desperate to divert the Argentine people's attention, and they are using these Argentine dead as a political tool.

    The Argentine government doesn't respect the Argentine dead, they don't respect the Argentine veterans of the war, they don't respect the families of the fallen and they don't respect the Argentine people.

    They are indeed despicable people.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    all argentinas government are interested in is to have access to the bodies of these soldiers to fabricate war crimes against The UK thus distracting the argentine population further..... ask yourselves why does this argentine government want this so badly right now........ we are not stupid.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    20
    Yes but......
    Argentina being foreign to UK must come under Foreign Affairs....
    FIG cannot conduct Foreign Affairs...they can ask UK to be included in any decisions, but cannot deal with Argentina directly...
    Unless there has been new legislation passed by UK Govt concerning BOTS then my point is correct and this is the correct procedure....
    as for....
    “The Government of Great Britain cannot authorise the exhumation of bodies in ANY British Overseas Territory.”
    ...please provide link for that statement.....

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    I don't see a problem providing Argyland pays for the bodies to be dug up, packed and returned to Argyland for Red Cross to carry out identification process. This shouldn't be a problem as it will help the Families and allow the remains to be laid to rest in their homeland. I fully support this CFK initiative.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @22 A_Voice

    The British Government assists British Overseas Territories with Foreign Affairs. They don't dictate what their foreign policy should be, nor can they tell these territories what to do in their own backyard.

    So you are WRONG on all counts.

    By the way can you provide a link to any of your statements?

    Thought not.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    This is between the argentine government and the islander’s government,

    All requests should be sent to the Falklands,

    The argentine government will have to acknowledge them or Soddy offy for antother32 years.
    .

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @17, 20 Sorry. These rotting piles of maggot-ridden crap are on the sovereign territory of the Falkland Islands. The Falkland Islands Government will make the decision. The UK government “may” support that decision. Or it may not. But only the Falkland Islands Government and the UK government, acting in concert, can agree to let the ICRC on to the Islands. And, if there is enough sense in the FIG, there will be NO argies.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    ”we are going to address the issue before the Government of Great Britain in order to have its cooperation in this worthy cause,” he concluded.

    At which point he will be directed to address all of his concerns to the FIG aaaaannnnnndddd because we know that there is a big streak of YELLOW running down Timerman's back ( where his spine should be ) that will be the end of that...........for another year or two.

    Can we please get off this merry-go-round?? It's starting to make me feel sick......

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    24
    However, under International Law the Territories are part of the UK, so they are represented on international institutions, such as the UN, by the UK Government. They are therefore bound by International law, such as the implementation of sanctions, through the UK.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/217278/british-overseas-territories.pdf

    and.....
    “International Support: the UK is responsible for the external relations of the Territories and uses its diplomatic resources and influence to promote their interests;”
    and....
    “As a matter of constitutional law the UK Parliament has unlimited power to legislate for the Territories.”
    and...
    ”powers are devolved to the elected governments of the Territories to the maximum extent possible consistent with the UK retaining those powers necessary to discharge its sovereign responsibilities.

    and...
    Falklands
    Elected Members have a substantial measure of responsibility for the conduct of their Territory’s affairs. The Governor is obliged to consult the Executive Council in the exercise of his functions (except in specified circumstances, for example on defence and security issues, where he must consult and follow the advice of the Commander of the British Forces in the Islands) and on FOREIGN AFFAIRS ISSUES
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/217278/british-overseas-territories.pdf

    By the way can you provide a link to any of your statements?

    Thought not....;-))))

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    Timerman said that the purpose of the forensic tasks at the Darwin cemetery is “so that the relatives of the fallen in Malvinas can put an end to uncertainty and close a painful wound“.

    When are the “Government” of Argentina going to address the issue of landmines on Falklanders' territory...a far more worthy cause protecting living civilians than IDing the failed terrorists than were neutralised in the cause of freedom.

    Come on Tinman!!

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    A.Voice - As Darwin Cemetery is on Falklands Soil and In Falkland Islands Territory = whatever happens on it or under it is 100% the responsibility of the Falkland Islands Govt

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    1 Foreign minister Hector Timerman said that the International Committee of the Red Cross “WILL” help with the identification of Argentine soldiers.

    2 “The Red Cross, in response to a request from President Cristina Fernandez, “PROMISED” to help us“

    3 ”We are ”CERTAIN“ that the Red Cross will help us”

    Now which one is it!

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @22

    “FIG cannot conduct Foreign Affairs.”

    Oh yes they can.

    Visas and permits for people other than Falkland Islanders visiting/emigrating to the Islands are granted by FIG, not the UK government. British customs are not involved in the Falkland Islands, FIG customs decide who enter the Islands, including people from the UK.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Actually, it is a good move, will provide closure to family relatives, and is quite clearly long overdue.

    The International Committee of the Red Cross ( ICRC ) has been asked to intermediate similar requests before in the world, and undertake the correct diplomatic steps in order to do so.

    The ICRC will be in communication with the UK and Falkland Island governments, if they haven't done so already. Forensic resources in Switzerland are well known, and second to none.

    Politics aside, I would like to think that there are family members in Argentina who would greatly appreciate such efforts in identification, and ultimately the return of said remains.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    I am totally in favour of allowing the Red Cross to take DNA samples from Darwin and I will do all I can to ensure that it happens. If we need to tell the FCO to pass it on I think we should. I don't think we should sit back and wait for them to approach us if they have asked FCO and that request has been passed onto us. Let CFK's government make a political situation of it but I'd rather we didn't.

    The UK does look after our foreign affairs but not without fully consulting with us at all times. Having said that I am not really sure what the scope of “foreign affairs” is because like other posters have said tonight, we set our immigration policy, we decide whether foreign aircraft can land here or not, we handled the planning application (and successfully insisted on the on the original plans being reduced in size) for the Argentine cemetery and we travel the world educating peoples about our situation, etc.

    Mar 05th, 2014 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    30
    I do believe Darwin Cemetery is on East Falkland....it is your opinion that it is Falklands territory, it is my opinion that it is not...
    It is my opinion that West Falkland is where you should live.....
    32
    ....passports and immigration permits is not directly dealing with a Foreign Govt.....
    34
    “The UK does look after our foreign affairs but not without fully consulting with us at all times. ”
    ....since when do the British public in the UK get consulted by the FCO concerning foreign affairs for the UK...?
    This is why there is a FCO...everything is on a need to know basis.....
    They make the decision.... not you....
    Know your place...

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    3- Actually the request will have to come from the Arg Govt to the Falklands Govt - it may well be passed to us by the IRC- BUT the application will be addressed by the Arg Govt to the Falkland Islands Govt- full stop.
    So it will of course not happen as our Govt does not exist according to them!

    The Arg Families Association of those who died in the conflict is NOT in favour of such an operation as far as we know. The whole thing is a political ploy by the Kirschener Govt - who basically asked the individual families directly and more than likely in such a way there would be trouble if they did not answer the right way.
    It could indeed have been resolved 32 yrs ago- when the Arg Officers and NCOS - REFUSED- to assist the British Forces with identifying the dead conscripts(whom the Arg Army did not issue ID tags to).
    It was not and it would indeed be 100% sick politics to dig up all those lads who have laid at peace - and known to God - for the last 32 years just to satisfy the whim of Kristina.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    35

    I'll only talk to Dove Over Dover. A sock puppet is one thing but a sock puppet's sock puppet is gong too far.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @28

    I see A_Voice has taken over the constitutional expert role previously occupied by Commander DoD.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    36
    Did you read the article..? What part of ....“we are going to address the issue before the Government of Great Britain ”
    ....didn't you understand..?
    No mention of FIG at all......
    37
    I am happy to lecture you.....any questions were rhetorical anyway.....
    How or if you reply is irrelevant....
    ....I'll state my case, of which I'm certain
    ...For what is a man, what has he got, if not himself then he has not.
    To say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels
    The record shows, I took the blows....and did it my way...;-))))

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Still boring A_Voice's conversion is almost complete.

    It won't be much longer.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    AVoice 39 Argentina and IRC can raise it as much as you like with UK - the UK WILL REFER Arg and the IRC to contact and communicate with FIG, It is as simple as that.

    As for who owns the East Falklands - well, the UN happens to recognize UK as current Administering Power(your side tried to change that in 1982 but sort of failed I recall).
    The UK derrogates INTERNAL affairs to the democratically Elected Govt of the Falkland Islands,- Got It?

    So the whole issue will go nowhere - same as all those applications a couple of years ago to London about wanting to start commercial flights to the Islands - they died dead when London told Arg they would need to apply to the Falkland Islands Govt!

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 03:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    35 A_Voice

    “...it is your opinion that it is Falklands territory, it is my opinion that it is not...
    It is my opinion that West Falkland is where you should live.....”.

    You or your country are precluded from having any say in the matter as it is purely an internal matter of another nation. As Nootka gave the UK an absolute claim to all the Islands, after Argentina's attempted usurpation. Moreover, the Peace of Utrecht barred Argentina from any pretended claim from from Spain, leaving the UK with uncontested proprietary of the Islands. So Argentina's claim was stillborn from the onset.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @28 - A_Voice

    You are talking about international treaties etc...., and the request from Argentina is a foreign affair....

    ....BUT the cemetery at Darwin is a domestic matter for the Falkland Islands, so therefore the British Government CANNOT give the Red Cross or anyone else permission to exhume remains. ONLY the Falkland Islands Government can. All the UK government can do is what they did last time this despicable Argentine government tried this tack, and pass on their request to the Falkland Islands Government.

    I know that this is a difficult concept for your mind to understand. The UK and it's overseas territories are governed by laws. These laws cannot be overturned (like in Argentina) because they are seen to be inconvenient to the current administration. In fact any attempt by the national government to interfere in local matters can mean that the local council (or indeed the Falkland Islands Government in this case) CAN take the UK Government to court. The LAW is the LAW in the UK and everyone INCLUDING the Government is bound by it.

    So yet again, I stand by the fact that this is the SAME ploy that Argentina used about 2 years ago KNOWING that they had to speak to the Falkland Islanders and refusing to do so.

    Ignoring the Falkland Islanders isn't doing Argentina any favours. It is making them look like the bullies and cowards that they truly are.

    So Argentina can bleat on as much as they like to the UK government, but their reply - which is in line with the LAW will be:

    “The Government of the United Kingdom has no say over whether the Red Cross or anyone else can exhume bodies on the Falkland Islands. Please address your request to the relevant body that can give you authority - the Falkland Islands Government.”

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lou Spoo

    A-Voice

    Authorisation for the exhumation of a body is the responsibilty of the the local burial authorities or, in some cases, the coroner in whose district the remains are lying. The coroner in this case would be the Chief Magistrate in the Falkland Islands.

    As many posters have pointed out the UK will simply tell Argentina to contact the relevant authorities in the Falklands.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    The opportunity to repatriate the bodies of fallen Argentinians was made officially by the then United Kingdom government very soon after the war ceased. This was refused by Argentina, and those bodies were respectfully interned.
    There is no honourable reason for your government not request for the exhuming of the bodies and then returning them to Argentina soil.
    All those honourable dead; both British and Argentinian, would not ask for less.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @45 Room101

    The problem is that the Argentinian government are just using this as a political ploy. They didn't care about their own back in 1982, and they care even less about them now. What they are doing is trying to make so vacous claim that since Argentines are buried on the Falklands then the Falklands are Argentine.

    They are despicable people.

    The relatives of the fallen don't want their sons disinterred and moved to Argentina, because they know that they receive for more care and respect from the Falkland Islanders than they ever would in Argentina.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    36 Islander1 & 46 LEPRecon

    I was also under the same impression that the majority families of the Argentinian fallen dis not want this to happen.

    Surely it should be up to the Argentine families to decide what they would like to happen, after all not all the British fallen were repatriated to the UK as was the wish of their families.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    46 LEPRecon.

    Yes: I'm well-aware of the attempts of the Argentine government to have dialogue avenues created with the UK; to by-pass the Falklands Islander's rights. But I don't agree that all Argentinians are despicable people, any more than any other nation has them. Propaganda is a powerful weapon; especially as diversion from internal troubles and keeping (presently precarious) government seats.
    My contribution was to speak for the dead as any civilised military, or formerly military, would from the soldiers point of view...no politics.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    For the sake of the families of the fallen, I think it would be a good action. If the Argentine gov't is earnest, they will go through the proper channels, ie the Falkland Islands Gov't. If they don't, it only confirms they couldn't care less about the Argentine dead and their families.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @49
    Talking about the fallen, did you know that Pope Francis stole a rosary cross from a dead man ( Buenos Aires Herald story.)

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    48 Room101

    I think what friend LEPRecon meant at 46 when he said

    “They are despicable people”

    Is that the argentine government is using their own war dead as a cheap political ploy rather than out of good old fashion human concern.

    The feeling is they do not care for their fallen, they did not care about the lives of their troops when they were alive. They didn't care for their troops when they were dead, then or now...

    Because if they really, really did care then this would have happened about 30 years ago but here we are. more than 30 years on from the war and the argentine government is still just talking about it rather than actually doing something.

    and if they really, really, really did care then their first stop would be the families of the fallen wouldn't it? to find out what they wanted first?

    Not some second rate foreign minister deciding what they want for them.

    We on this site have seen this all before anyway. It is hard, remembering the last time this issue was brought up, not to be cynical about the whole thing.

    Mar 06th, 2014 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    A voice et al, the burial and maintenance of cemeteries is a matter of public health which is within the purview of the elected government of the Falkland Islands. Any request to mess about with dead bodies on the Islands has to go through the government who will want to make sure it is done safely, with respect, with the consent of the families of the unidentified dead and ethically. I know these concepts are alien to many Argentinians who expect a government to make decisions based upon how much money is in it for them but not everywhere operates under the Argentine system.

    I am sure the FIG will listen with respect to any proposal Argentina brings forward.

    Mar 07th, 2014 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Golfcronie @ 50

    Yes, it's all over the papers. But that was just a tiny little misdeed compared to thefts committed by so many of his compatriots.

    Mar 07th, 2014 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    #50 #53. It is not like he sold it and siphoned of the money into foreign bank accounts. Besides had the deceased known about it he would probably boasted that the Pope has used a rosary cross that used to belong to him. That's Catholics for you. They love their Popes.

    Mar 07th, 2014 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Rico @ 54

    Not all of them. Read about the Sedevacantists. But I agree that Pope Francis probably didn't sell or pawn the pilfered cross.

    Mar 07th, 2014 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Theft is theft in any language. Depends on what spin people put on it. I imagine it is ok by Argy standards to steal off the dead.

    Mar 07th, 2014 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Golfcronie @ 56

    Certain Argentines not only steal off the dead but steal the dead themselves. Case in point: the corpse of Eva Perón.

    Mar 07th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    It does not really matter what you believe,
    Or what brain washing you are told,
    And it does not even matter if the whole Argentina government stands out side the British parliament all night,
    The fact is, you either talk to the islanders or you don’t,
    Your choice..

    .

    Mar 07th, 2014 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    If its genuine the FIG and UK forces will offer all assitance neccesary.
    If its some “patrotic” stunt then no not a chance.

    Mar 10th, 2014 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    59 Martin Woodhead

    “If its some “patrotic” stunt then no not a chance.”

    Why would think it could be anything other than just that?

    You MUST know that KFC and Timerman are just itching to make political capital out of this.

    You also MUST know that you are f**ked no matter how this plays out.

    If you refuse then it will be:-

    “Those nasty imperialist, British pirate squatters won't let us identify our war dead.......wah, wah, wah, blah, blah, blah”

    If you do agree and let them, then it will be:-

    “Argentina victorious over those nasty imperialist, British pirate squatters who have hi-jacked our war dead for so long”

    “Serpents” Cried the Pigeon “There's no pleasing them”

    Mar 10th, 2014 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Knowing the history of such events with the ICRC, if it can be done, the forensic sampling on location will be by a 3rd party.

    The findings can then be compared and further identified at another location, perhaps nearby, which Brasil as a neutral party could facilitate, if asked to. More likely the match testing would be in Europe, specifically Switzerland, also being a long-time neutral, and the origin country of the ICRC. Forensic laboratories there are considered to be second to none.

    The question that arises is what to do then with positively identified remains ? Some families may want them returned, and others may want them to be buried, or interred where they are.

    Dialogue with all parties involved will be needed.

    Mar 10th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    But that unfortunatly would involve the Argentine goverment acting like adults and not expecting the IRC to roll over and let them stamp argentine flags over everything.
    Having the IRC turn up discreetly quitely professional and with respect for the dead and the islanders doesnt really hand KFC and others any victory.

    Mar 11th, 2014 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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