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Falklands' referendum a year ago remembered at the Australian parliament
One year on from the Falkland Islands' referendum and public diplomacy efforts are paying dividends according to Members of Legislative Assembly Mike Summers and Michael Poole, reports the latest edition of the Penguin News. Read full article
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Mar 14th, 2014 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guess we're not getting a Christmas card this year from Tía Cristina.
@1 - haha, I'm pretty sure Argentina cannot afford the postage stamp
Mar 14th, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#1
Mar 14th, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh well. It's like an Aesop's fable.
This is a win win for the Falklands. The more that the ninnies of the regime in Argentina bleat, the stronger the message that the referendum sent is heard all around the globe.
Cameron's referendum a year ago.
Mar 14th, 2014 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Putin's referendum in a few hours.
Malvinas and Crimea’s farcical referendums.
@4 And of course the Junta you proudly celebrated on a coin would have gladly given them not to mention your fellow Argentines the right to vote on their status. What a lie you Malvanazi live.
Mar 14th, 2014 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Marco a free referendum by a people who have lived on their island for many many generations., who have been victim to an imperialist regime in Argentina,is exactly the same as a Russian invasion of crimea, breaking the constitution of the Ukraine, and breaking the agreement they had to respect their national integrity, and then to hide it by a military enforced referendum.
Mar 14th, 2014 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your powers of observation are amazing. What you really should say is Russia and Argentina both want what is not theirs, both have and are prepared to use military force to obtain it, and both are paranoid of the USA and Europe. Oh and that's not mentioning the human rights and freedom and prosperity of their people.
How many people did Russia kill in Afghanistan...... 1.5mil? Now that is messed up
ARGENTINE BLADES ON ARGENTINE LAND:
Mar 14th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKaiQ3iRZIY
@7 And Germans in Poland. You fascists never change, do you.
Mar 14th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 and didn't they do well? Not.
Mar 14th, 2014 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And wouldn't you like to explain to everyone why the Falklands is somehow Argentine because I find this remark rather puzzling.
#4
Mar 14th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are these mystical Malvinas? When did they have a referendum?
@4
Mar 14th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/un-confirms-that-britain-is-not-in-breach-of-resolutions-over-the-falklands/
and Ban went on to say, 'The impression is that people who are living under certain conditions should have access to certain level of capacities so that they can decide on their own future.'
The Falkland Islanders have spoken.
And you called the Falkland Islands referendum farcical. Lol.
Hey Jose! Argentinians have big mouths - and the Falklands are British. And, it doesn't matter what Arentinians think of that - know why? BECAUSE ARGENTINA DOESN'T MATTER
Mar 14th, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#7
Mar 14th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's one for you Jose. Argentinians crashing on British soil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vg2RTXZmoY
I can keep this up longer than you !
#7
Mar 14th, 2014 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beautiful video of our helicopters there Jose. Would those be the same helicopters that the army was giving thousands of your fellow civilian citizens free rides out over the Atlantic, back in the 70's and 80's? As I recall, all those rides were one-way, of course. Shameful.
Marcos Alejandro - kindly explain the connection between the Falklands/Malvinas and Crimea and the Ukraine. Two different situations although Argentine tries to bully the Falkland Islanders(unsuccessful) and Russia is trying the same tactic with Ukraine.
Mar 14th, 2014 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really are a boludo!
4 Marcos Alejandro
Mar 14th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a tiny bit different as the Islands is an issue that originates from the attempted illegal usurpation by Argentina that failed. So even if Argentina was able to put the issue before the ICJ it would be decided by the treaties and international law in effect in 1833, which are all in the UK's favour. Therefore the Islanders were simply exercising their Charter given rights. Moreover, Argentina by not legally challenging the Islanders referendum, is a tacit acknowledgement of it's legitimacy
Whereas, Russia is attempting to annex the Crimea which is contrary to the the UN Charter by putting their armed forces there. Specifically, CHAPTER I: PURPOSES AND PRINCIPLES Article 1 4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
Cfk will never learn,
Mar 14th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She is totally deluded, just ask the UN.
Malvinas vs Falklands: Negotiations with the U.N.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-vys78sGB7Y
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Mar 14th, 2014 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still spouting the same old rubbish....no treaties favoured the UK....
Just because you keep repeating it, doesn't make it true......
What!....no Australian support on the competing claims......haven't they read Terry Hills convincing evidence....
Apparently not......or maybe they don't have your faith or insight....
18 A_Voice
Mar 15th, 2014 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still attempting to the deny the irrefutable, based entirely on your unqualified humble opinion. I guess a person as arrogant as you doesn't take kindly to being absolutely flattened.
Lets show the original thread, some of the comments where decidedly favorable to my position, on it, and a subsequent thread. Like ”you didn't even land a punch; he rolled right over you; he handed you your ass
So let others judge whether treaties, experts and international law uphold my assertions, and show you as simply another liar from the land of liars or not? starting at post #159
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/02/05/argentina-grateful-to-grenada-for-malvinas-claim-support-promises-cooperation
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Mar 15th, 2014 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really do feel embarrassed for you...such a glutton for punishment.....
You failed to prove any of the treaties applied to Argentina.....such a sad case...
Not even Australia has faith in your position.....
Come to think of it, why not name the countries that support historical British claim to the Falklands...how many was that...?...none?
How many countries support the Argentine claim.......;-)))
.....you are on your own Terry better stick with the self determination ploy....no one believes the British inapplicable treaties with Spain....treaties are not transferable to new states......
haha is this you Terry......
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UKxbhMCIw4E/T-RjJ_WmNvI/AAAAAAAAGOE/a8rOLz37xxA/s1600/scaled.jpg
I Would like that Julie Bishop supports the same principle with the Australian aborigines which are abandoned, poor and living in the worse poor condition that people can live.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well this shows how still Australia is puppet of the Ukistan policies...
19 Terry
Mar 15th, 2014 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Once again,
More unbacked “opinions” from “A_Voice”, a “stateless”, nameless, Troll.
@20 A_Voice=DoD
”How many countries support the Argentine claim.......;-)))“
LOL, this is too rich!!
Do you mean countries like, Venezuela, Grenada, Cuba, Iran... ???
Welcome to the ”Tier 3 Trolls” club, A-Voice - along with Nostril, Marcos, Puto Argentinas, Sussie... etc.
That's an argument worthy of them
What did Einstein say about repeating the same thing, over and over again, hoping for a different result... ?
20 A_Voice
Mar 15th, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since the issue is strictly a legal one, vox populi in the present day is irrelevant. What would be important legally, is what was the view of nations in 1833, remembering that silence is legally acquiescence to the UK. Guess what? every nation accepted UK sovereignty, and not a single nation supported Argentina's spurious claim.
If what you say about the treaties is true then one has to ask why don't you show the post that proves it, or, is it simply just one more piece of Argentine BS? Remember you bear the burden of proof, not me since your the one who originally asserted my statement wasn't true. So prove or be revealed as a liar yet again.
Thats true about treaties, and since all three were between Spain and Briton, only they could benefit from them, to the detriment of Argentina a new state.
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Mar 15th, 2014 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0You had best stop trying to change your tune...the links to previous posts shows clearly that I asked you to show any legal proof to the British Claim to East Falkland.
You failed miserably and now you are asking me to prove it.....
I am wasting my time with you...
Why state something that is not true ...all the previous posts shows clearly what I asked of you.....
Which means either you have a poor memory or you are a fecking liar....
Which is it...?
@21 DanyBerger
Mar 15th, 2014 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm no fan of our foreign minister and I'm always willing to listen to informed criticism of how our indigenous population is treated, but your entire statement, from it's syntax to it's conclusion, makes no sense at all. It's trolling at it's least imaginative.
24 A-voice
Mar 15th, 2014 - 04:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Insulting, name- calling, and brow- beating Terence Hill repeatedly, is not going to make him give up or back down to you, a dubious malcontent.
The Falklands, all of them, have been possessed and continuously occupied by Britain for about 200 years now, with no serious legal challenges.
Terence has given of two expert legal and historical
opinions of the Islands sovereignty.
You have nothing but your own uneducated opinion.
How can you be so conceited and arrogant?
Once again, you look like an obstinate fool.
@Heisenbergcontext
Mar 15th, 2014 - 04:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well if you want to talk about my “Syntax” better watch yours first because really sucks...
Where have you learned English in Afghanistan?
Anyway back to your post...
Lets me see again....
Oops makes a lot of sense...
BBC
Child abuse, alcoholism, extreme poverty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2eWHDZ-E14
Sky News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2eWHDZ-E14
Now don’t be lazy and try to write something understandable so I can reply to you whatever you try to ask or say.
Would you please?
Thank you
@28
Mar 15th, 2014 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rampant child abuse and alcoholism in Aboriginal communities are both things I have witnessed at first hand - neither are the fault of the government.
As to poverty, Aborigines receive the same benefits as everyone else...and then some. FYI that means a basic rate of A$501 per fortnight ( unemployment benefits ), $699 ( single parents pension ) or $751 ( disability support pension ). Pharmaceutical benefits as well as healthcare and pension cards provide for cheaper prescription medicine and public transport. There are also health and legal services specifically set up for Aborigines.
Various state and federal govts have spent billions and billions of dollars building accommodation, starting and supporting Aboriginal run businesses. I have seen brand new houses - three bedroom, two bathroom, air-con - trashed in months because they simply didn't know how to maintain a dwelling. And most aboriginal businesses have failed. The ones that have succeeded have done done so by capitalising on what aborigines do best. They have always been great stockmen for instance.
As I have posted before it's not financial poverty ( or government abandonment ) that has informed the living conditions of Australian aborigines. It's a poverty of spirit.
b.t.w. Never been to Afghanistan, but if you walk through the streets of Alice Springs you will see many aborigines with Afghan blood. They are the descendants of the Afghan cameleers who lived here from the 1860's to the early 19th century.
20 A_Voice
Mar 15th, 2014 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I will again answer for the umpteenth time as I haven't changed my position one iota, and offer in rebuttal the historians and international jurists or their writings as follows Dr. Graham Pascoe, Professor D.W. Greig, Professor Jörg Fisch, Professor Dolzer, Dr. Diego Luis Molinari. Who will clearly show that under Nootka Article VI and the the Secret Article are so intrinsically related that the violation of the latter triggers the the release UK from any prior territorial constraints. Thereby, giving the UK clear claim to the Islands over all other pretenders. So you again ignore the burden of proof with unsupported assertions devoid of any proof, which according to the rules of logic proves you are the only liar here.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/03/05/malvinas-negotiations-will-take-place-sooner-than-later-forecasts-cristina-fernandez
Well said “ voice” and well put .........Forever Falklands ..Forever British !!
Mar 15th, 2014 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Jose
Mar 15th, 2014 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder you lost deploying all those electric guitars-didn't most of those 'blades' get shot down or end up in service in the UK?
You could argue it was Argentine land for 3 months because you illegally invaded it, but 3 months out of over 200 years isn't at all convincing.
For all the Argentine trolls to enjoy! Especially A_Voice!
Mar 15th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklandshistory.org
@7 that's what you think, got any modern videos? living in the past just before you got your arses kicked!
Mar 15th, 2014 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that referendum is like a bad joke for the international community.
Mar 16th, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0it would be like asking a bunch of thieves if they are guilty or not.
or asking a bunch of squatters if the place is theirs or not.
Far from it, it gives not only clarity to the situation regarding their interests but more importantly shows how the falklanders want their political status to be represented. Just as a side note what is stopping Argentina asking for the ICJ to give an opinion? I mean that is what Argentina wants; a legal position that the Falklanders and Britain cannot get out of?
Mar 16th, 2014 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 034 paulcedron
Mar 16th, 2014 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The inconsequential from the insignificant.
@34 paulcedron
Mar 16th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“or asking a bunch of squatters if the place is theirs or not.”
In that case the squatters in Patagonia had better head North to BA and allow the Indians the land back that was usurped by Argentina.
that referendum is like a bad joke for the international community.
Mar 17th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it would be like asking a bunch of thieves if they are guilty or not.
or asking a bunch of squatters if the place is theirs or not.
[ if one was talking of Argentinians, then one would be correct..]
@34
Mar 23rd, 2014 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“it would be like asking a bunch of thieves if ”
So are you saying the present inhabitants of the Islands are 181 years old?
How can the present inhabitants have stole land they were born on?
That is exactly like saying that the Spanish stole South America from the natives-therefore that makes Argentines thieves by your logic even though I doubt there are many Argentines(as indeed there are no Falkland Islanders ) over the age of 200//300 years.
If a thief has a grandson, that does not make the grandson the thief, only the actual person that has stolen can be termed a thief.
If the grandson is not a thief-he is not a thief-it's that simple.
No Islanders living today have stolen any land.
It's theirs because they were born there-they didn't all move in mass from the UK a few years ago.
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