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  CaptainSilver

  The thing is…. When is Argentina going to do the same? They claim that the Indians they slaughtered came from Chile, but in the days before Spain colonised Patagonia there were no borders. Borders were the invention of the European colonists, the same people that now call themselves Argentines. Perhaps the venerable Think or academic Axel can explain?

  Mar 14th, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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  ChrisR

  Batchelet is saying the right things, we will see if she manages to “rectify” the matter against the companies who own the land now.
  
  Tough call, that one. I guarantee she will never please everybody no matter what she does.

  Mar 14th, 2014 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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  Chicureo

  I'm not against the Mapuche people for their claims, but I'm very much against the brutal violence that includes killing of innocent individuals in the south. Here in Colina (Chicureo is a part of the municipalidad) the city recognizes the Mapuche and Spanish language... in that order.

  Mar 14th, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  Brit Bob

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/13/argentinian-founding-father-genocide-row
  
  When the British settled the Islands, before the nation of Argentina existed they oppressed nothing but the natural population of penguins and seagulls. Meanwhile I don't see too many indigenous south Americans amongst the Argentine power-mongers. Still, that's genocide for you.

  Mar 14th, 2014 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  CabezaDura2

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  “ Meanwhile I don't see too many indigenous south Americans amongst the Argentine power-mongers”
  
  I do errr Zanini??
  http://www.urgente24.com/224708-el-llanto-de-zannini-la-desesperacion-de-quedar-%E2%80%98pegado%E2%80%99
  
  The Mapuches invaded the eastern side of northern Patagonia in what is today Neuquen by the 1700s and 1800s, displacing local aboriginal groups and culturally suplanting them. The white man had already settled up north in the early 1500s. Constant indian raids and attacks were common through most of the XIX Century, rape, pillage of cattle and sacking of towns and cities was an all usual drama in the frontier. Alsina the defence minister at the time builded the longest trench to that day to prevent this by 1876-77
  http://www.urgente24.com/224708-el-llanto-de-zannini-la-desesperacion-de-quedar-%E2%80%98pegado%E2%80%99
  
  The trench was proven ineffective and Alsina died soon after, Roca was assigned minester of war and defence.
  He had no option but to destroy the warrior tribes. After his campaign the raids stopped.

  Mar 14th, 2014 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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  the_Truth_shall_B_Trolld

  @1
  
  When Britain does it?
  
  Well, that saves us some face, since that mean never.

  Mar 15th, 2014 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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  pgerman

  @1 CaptainSilver
  
  As it is quite clear that you are not argentine you does not have to know about the history of the country I will give you some basic tips.
  
  Argentina does not need to apologize the Mapuches simply because it has never taken Mapuches land. In fact, taking into account historical facts, the Mapuches would have to apologize other tribes for having invaded their land, having killed thousands of their ancestor and, basically, for making some cultures dissapeared from history.
  
  The Mapuches (led by Calfucura) crossed the Andes, invaded Boroganos land, fought and defeated them, killed most of Boroganos population and the surviving population was anexed as part of Calfucura tribes.
  
  By the way, we are talking about boundaries established by tribes, not by europeans, since the Andes are such a big group of mountains that have always been a natural boundary between the East and the West.
  
  The Mapuches, led by Calfucura, anexed, either by defeating or by negotiation, almost the whole tribes on the East since then onwards making thier cultures dissapeared (including lenaguages) and starting the “araucanization” process.
  
  Calfucura became in such powerfull chief that was almost unbeatable and was defeated, decades ago after taking plenty of resources by genocide or by extortion, in San Carlos. He survived and died seven year before the Desert Campaing launched by President Nicolas Avellaneda and the Argentine Congress.
  
  In case of needing any additional information, please, don't hesitate and let me know. I'll be more than happy to assit you and to suggest books to increase your knowledge on the topic.

  Mar 19th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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