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Argentine government picks on Swire interview to attack opposition leaders
Argentine cabinet chief Jorge Capitanich claimed that UK's preference to talk about the Falklands/Malvinas dispute with opposition presidential hopefuls, clearly means that “these leaders are willing to a greater flexibility regarding foreign interests in the dispute”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesDoes a day pass where the Argentine government doesn't verbally attack someone?
Mar 15th, 2014 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think for a want of a better phrase this could be described 'as the UK putting the boot in'
Mar 15th, 2014 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the Argentine reply?
Make some stuff up surrounding non-existent UN resolutions.....
Pitiful.
I told you Macri and Massa were done!
Mar 15th, 2014 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK mentions you = political kiss of death in Argentina.
D'Elia 2015. He agrees with me 100% on “Europeans”.
@3 This D'Elia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_D%27El%C3%ADa
Mar 15th, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Charming fellow...
As for Macri and Massa being “done”, do you have any evidence of this?
“abide by UN resolutions that urge both parties to hold talks over the sovereignty of the Islands.”
Mar 15th, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, and to abide by them the interests of the population have to be taken into account, which means the islanders have to be present at any talks (as in the 1970s/early 80s according to the Frank's report),
So, no Islanders at talks = the resolutions are being broken-=therefore no talks.
Over to Argentina.
Told you so in the other thread...
Mar 15th, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Swire has given Massa and Macri a free bomb with out any of them actually ever commenting about the islands.
I think Swire should keep on digging on that hole.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We want to hear more of what they think of Massa and Macri...
;)
TruthPatrol and Stevie. Funny thing. Over last few years I have led tours for many hundreds of Argentine cruise ship tourists to visit the Darwin cemetery and other places.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not one of them has ever had a word of support for your Govt,s attitude and position towards the islands and us Islanders. They all say bridges need to be built-peoples start to get to know each other and become friends as the current policy gets nowhere. Then one day - a generation or two down the line - we might be able to get over the past and consign it to history.
Seems Argentine people are thinking different to your President and her Minisyers.
Islander
Mar 15th, 2014 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice...
Swire should still push on that agenda...
@3 I was confused at first. I thought you might be talking about Delia Smith. A good cook and very nice lady.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The I realised that you were referring to Luis D'Elia, the thieving, violent, assaulting, criminal, pro-Iranian holocaust denier without a braincell to call his own. He even looks like what he is. A brainless thug. What nice people you associate with. And both anarchists as well! Does he poke your arse?
Funny how Minister Swire's remarks can cause such a stir at Cabinet level in the Argentine Gov.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK just chooses to ignore or engage with them at will. If it's not too busy elsewhere....
now that must be really annoying. ... lol!
Does anyone else get freaked out with the old drag queen's ( Capitanich) bad eye lift?
Mar 15th, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a terrible job this guy has. He's got to translate crazy into Spanish.
It's like poking a stick into a cage full of cats.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at the hissy fits Capitanich and Timmerman are having. These two are virtually unknown in Europe but at home they are complete divas.
#3 & 7
Mar 15th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You two have been duped.
You do realise that the UK government want the ninnies of this current argentine regime to stay in charge after KFC is dumped.
It suits the UK to have this lot slowly, but incrementally downing argentina both domestically and abroad.
Then we agree ;)
Mar 15th, 2014 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie- Yes that is the only and logical way that some progress and peacefulness can happen - after the aggression attitude of the last 10-12 yrs though it will take a long time - but it is the only way.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 05
Mar 15th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN resolution calls for bilateral talks, not trilateral talks....
There is no mention of including the Islanders at the talks, only their interests...
The UK have added the extra proviso, whilst Argentina demand only what the UN states....
The UK conducts foreign policy for all BOTS, this is a known fact ...why should they be present...?
Why doesn't the UK adhere to the UN resolution....?
If they thought it needed to be amended why didn't they ask for it to be amended at the time...?
The UK doesn't need the UN to conduct affairs on it's behalf.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK has clearly stated that it will attend tri-lateral talks or none at all.
It's called a negotiating position.
The Argies can like it, or lump it. The UK has an extremely strong position.
Why not forget about the UN and take it to the ICJ?
:-)
18
Mar 15th, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In other words the UK has ignored the UN resolution...exactly as Argentina states...
Why should the UK be able to set conditions that differ from those asked...?
...because UN resolutions are only enforceable by the UN Security Council and with a Veto not enforceable on the UK at all....
UN is a joke....
Take it to the ICJ....? You do of course realise that Argentina has never signed up to adhere to ICJ judgements....
@19
Mar 15th, 2014 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why are Argentina so frightened by talking with the Falkland Islanders present ?
19 Think
Mar 15th, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Make up your mind lad. One minute you say the UK should abide by a non-binding UN Resolution and the next you say the UN is rubbish. How long can you scrape the bottom of a barrel for before you wear it out? Deadbeat!
On another subject altogether. Can anyone tell me what the general attitude to the wearing of vehicular seatbelts is in Argentina?
Why has Argentina not signed up to the ICJ?
Mar 15th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 18 Lunatic of Chew Butt / A_Voice
Mar 15th, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WGAF what the argies want?
The so called UN resolution is not mandatory so Timmerturd Gollum and the rest can go fuck themselves as far as I am concerned, and unlike you I am a tax paying Brit.
But it is funny that Macri has been handed a nice little thorn to stick up the arse of TMBOA and her little helpers. And all without costing the UK anything: well done Minister Swire.
20
Mar 15th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Afraid..? I would imagine it's the principle....organ grinder...monkey...
Why should they when UK conducts foreign policy for all BOTS...
When talking to the UK they are already talking to Brits, why talk to more Brits..?
21
UN is a joke when it is ignored by members that feel that it has no relevance to them...like the UK....how stupid are you if you can't see that...?...Cuckoo....
22
Don't know.....
23
I don't believe you....WTF are you paying tax on....You have Fcuk all....
Just because you say things...it means everyone has to believe you...yeah right.
I pay tax in three countries.....so what....is that supposed to mean something...?
@24 Voicey...“I pay tax in three countries.....so what....is that supposed to mean something...?””
Mar 15th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps....that you like paying taxes ?? that you are a complete asshole ??
'Take it to the ICJ....? You do of course realise that Argentina has never signed up to adhere to ICJ judgements....'
Mar 15th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice,
Wrong.
You misunderstand how the Compulsory Jurisdiction of the Court in contentious cases works. It is only one of the ways the Court can have jurisdiction
It simply means that where State A (which has signed up to Compulsory Jurisdiction) presents a suit against State B (which has also signed up to Compulsory Jurisdiction), then the Court can proceed without getting prior consent from State B
If one or neither State has signed up to Compulsory Jurisdiction, they can consent to the Court's jurisdiction by
a) reaching a prior agreement to take the case to Court. (Special Agreement)
or
b) State A presents a suit and State B gives consent for the Court the decide the case. (Forum Prorogatum)
or
c) A treaty may have provisions for settling disagreements on its implementation through the Court.
Once consent has been given the Court's judgement is binding on both States (and any other State taking part in the suit)
If a State presents a suit, then it is signing up to adhere to that judgement, regardless of whether it has previously signed up to the Compulsory Jurisdiction or not. Argentina presented suit against Uruguay in the Paper Mill case in 2006.
17 Think and sock puppet A_Voice
Mar 15th, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why doesn't the UK adhere to the UN resolution....?
Oh...well, if we are going to talk UN resolutions...... How about UN resolution 502? and this resolution came from the security council, so it actually carry's weight.
argentina didn't adhere to that one did it? Actually. argentina didn't adhere to resolution 2065 either did it?
I've read it and no where it does it say anything about invading the Falklands if you can't get what you want, so never mind about about Britain not adhering to UN resolutions, 'cos argentina don't either.
I just love it when you silly little trolls f**k yourselves in public.... It just never gets old!!!
@ 24 Lunatic of Chew Butt / A_Voice
Mar 15th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, come on!
A self proclaimed “businessman” who can’t figure out where my pensions and those of my wife are seated?
Never mind the rump of what is left in the UK.
So your three countries would be Sweden, Chile and The Dark Country then.
The schizophrenia is showing!
I am an opponent of the government, I have never voted for CFK. But the policy implemented to the islands is correct, because it defends our interests. That means Mr. Swire, when he speaks of a “more mature vision”?. Saying that Argentina's foreign policy is getting her ass finger the British ..! They want the next Argentine governments defend the interests “pirates ”and not ours ..! expect seated Well, it's a fact that we will be here next to the islands long time .. I do not know how much longer he will be supporting UK 3000 squats, but only at the earliest is England, Wales and northern Ireland (that sure at some point it will be part of Ireland, out of respect for their territorial integrity) So islanders, sooner or later, have fewer friends than Pinochet ..!
Mar 15th, 2014 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't believe how powerful the UK has become.
Mar 15th, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It only has to utter a single sentence and it changes the entire course of a nation like Argentina.
Cristina would love to have that sort of power and influence.
@17 A (this should be an) underscored Voice.
Mar 16th, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0“There is no mention of including the Islanders at the talks,”
Where is there mention of them being excluded from talks?
Why were the islanders allowed to be present at talks during the 1970s/early 1980s?
“whilst Argentina demand only what the UN states...”
Like the bit where Independence of colonial countries is mentioned in the resolution? Argentina is not (according to 2065) the colonial country involved.
Like the bit that refers to the UN Charter which Argentina ignores?
Argentina ignores both of these, plus the Islanders interests, therefore Argentina breaks the resolutions.
And that little chestnut 2065? It was broken by Argentina's aggressive act of 1982. (The resolution mentioned settling the dispute peacefully).
Plus Argentina broke resolution 502 which was mandatory.
“why should they be present...?”
Because the Falklnd islanders are the rightful inhabitants having been born there-the Argentine delegates present are unlikely to have been born in the Islands. They'll have a problem with Alex Betts as he doesn't live in the Islands and chose to leave of his own accord.
Also the Islanders must be present to hear their interests being represented-the UN resolutions do not say 'taking into account the interests of Argentina or the UK“.
@29 Xavierv
” do not know how much longer he will be supporting UK 3000 squats“
Probably as long as the millions of Argentines continue to squat on native Indian lands .
”and northern Ireland (that sure at some point it will be part of Ireland,“
At the moment that is unlikely according to friends of mine that are Northern Irish citizens.
”They want the next Argentine governments defend the interests “pirates ”
I doubt it-Galteiri's pirates of 1982 would never be defended by he UK
@24
Mar 16th, 2014 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why has Argentina not signed up to the ICJ?
22
Don't know....
Well, you claim to know so much about everything else but you can't answer a simple question like this?
Need I say anything more?
You have nothing.
All your arguements have been proved wrong by much more erudite and well-informed posters than myself.
But when little Ilsen asks one simple, straightforward question...
You “ Don't know” ??????????????
So why does not Argentina recognise the ICJ?
Too much too hide?
I insist, Swire should push on with his agenda, use all his Brit influence to tell the Argentines what to do.
Mar 16th, 2014 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0That should help...
;)
@ 24 A-voice
Mar 16th, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'I don't think Security Council members are breaching 'relevant' UN resolutions' Ban Ki-Moon 12th November 2012
On 24th October 1945 Argentina signed the UN Charter.
Article 73 of the Charter - Declaration regards non-self-governing territories, says, 'interests of the inhabitants are paramount' (Supreme, superior to all others). As a Charter, it is a constitutional treaty, and ALL members are bound by its articles.
33 Stevie
Mar 16th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I insist... ”
Ha ha,“insist” all you like, Troll - I'm sure Swire will do or not do, whatever he likes if he feels it's in the interests of the Islanders.
Why is Argentine gov so scared to talk with the Islanders?
Mar 16th, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is the Argentine gov so scared to go to the ICJ?
These questions never seem to get answered. ...
@17 “THE UN resolution calls for bilateral talks, not trilateral talks”. I wonder why uneducated, unintelligent provincials think they should comment. Some misplaced sense of self-importance? An overwhelming desire to show their ignorance? “Look at me, I'm a stupid, ignorant Scot with no idea what I'm talking about, but I'll stick something in because I'm a Scot”.
Mar 16th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ALL General Assembly resolutions are, by definition, NON-BINDING. Therefore what such a resolution says is irrelevant. As is the resolution itself.
@19 The UK is entitled to ignore UNGA resolutions. All UN members, except the U.S.A., are sutomatically “signed up” to adhere to ICJ judgements. More ignorance from the barbarian.
@24 Scottish. Pissed. Probably shoving haggis up the “wrong” end and loving it. I am much encouraged about the result of the Scottish referendum. I want them to piss off! Then we can stop being polite. Why can't we tell the knobs what we really think of them? New sport. One scottie bends over and another tries to lob a caber up its jacksie. And if the cuntestant gets it wrong, crushed nuts!
@29 Have you thought what happens when the UK decides to use its technology to split argieland into several different pieces? I do hope there will be a video!
@30 WE are always powerful. Different times, different ways.
@35 I agree. What makes these SA slugs think they can “demand” and “insist”? But, let's face it, a slug is a slug. WE should fly over SA dropping slug pellets by the tonne. They may be adequately poisonous. But. Nice sweeties!
#37
Mar 16th, 2014 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Check on your FACTS. He said in earlier posts that he is not a Scot.
#37/24
Now, no need for your usual politeness, tell us what you really think.
As if we cared what a deluded psycho like you thinks.
“We”. Is this the royal “WE” or do you speak for the whole of England ?
Do the voices in your head tell you this and force you to write it ?
If you really have the courage of your convictions, post your comments in the Herald or Scotsman, with your name and address.
You want a fight ? You would certainly get one and I don't think you would win. But again, cowards like you are only good at boasting at what you would do while hiding in the background.
Have a nice day!
A_VoiceofThink
Mar 16th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I pay taxes in 3 countries”
ha ha - where did THAT come from??!!
VoiceThink - always desperate to impress, always wants attention!!
LOL !!! fake!
38
Mar 16th, 2014 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My dear Clyde everyone on the forum that has read my posts... knows fine well I have never stated my Nationality....
39
“I pay taxes in 3 countries”
ha ha - where did THAT come from??!!”
....I'd like you to engage your brain on that one and think laterally....
I'm sure Clyde could work it out.....
...but then again he has benefited from a British Education....
@40 Voicey, going senile ? got alzheimers ? It was YOU, you limp noodle, that said you pay 'tax' in 3 countries....take a look at your post # 24 of this string.
Mar 17th, 2014 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or was it one of your sock puppet aliases ?? Cabeza de choto !!
41 Jack B.
Mar 17th, 2014 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Alzheimer's? Yeah, maybe.
More likely he's pissed off that we brought his gratuitous bragging to everyone's attention.
so the UK is using its influence to control the actions of the Argentine government lol
Mar 17th, 2014 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Personally i don't mind the current government they make themselves out to be fools and are a huge embarrassment on the international community and the longer they keep it up the less likely anyone will care how they feel.
Go Argentina Ha
Bauer, you are literally inept to comprehend the word literally...
Mar 17th, 2014 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0As no one else has mentioned it I will.
Mar 17th, 2014 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The last 4 UNGA resolutions (1985-1988 inclusive) dealing specifically with the Falklands did not mention compliance with ANY UNGA or UNSC resolutions. They only stated that any agreement had to be in accordance with the UN Charter.
Now as the C24, and the Fourth Committee consider the Falklands under the 'decolinisation' banner and the GA notes the Fourth Committee's comment one can only conclude that the UNGA still consider it a 'decolinisation' matter. That means that under the UN Charter Article 73 applies plus Argentina keeps emphasizing to the C24 that the Islanders are not yet fully self-governing (I agree they are not, but I do believe that they comply with the requirements of the 'Fourth Option as detailed by UNGA resolution 2625).
Article 73 of the UN Charter reads, in part:
“Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for the administration of territories whose peoples have not yet attained a full measure of self-government recognize the principle that the interests of the inhabitants of these territories are paramount, and accept as a sacred trust the obligation to promote to the utmost, within the system of international peace and security established by the present Charter, the well-being of the inhabitants of these territories, and, to this end:”
Contrary to what many malvinistas claim I have yet to find any UN Charter, UNGA resolution or any ICJ Ruling or Advisory Opinion that places any limitation on how the 'inhabitants' arrived or their other citizenship privileges, or their ethnic origins. In other words they just have to be inhabiting the territory.
That being said UNGA resolution 2621 does place an obligation on the Administering Power not to allow the demographics of the territory to be radically altered.
41/42
Mar 17th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL ...what was that...a dumb and dumber double act?
Ever heard of quotation marks..they are used to quote other peoples comments...as in....@40
“I pay taxes in 3 countries”
ha ha - where did THAT come from??!!”
...was a quote...I wasn't asking where it came from....
As both of you are incapable of thinking laterally..I'll make it easy for you....
US...School tax and County tax....
Scotland...Council tax....
England...Road tax...Income tax, VAT, Corporation tax...
Three countries.....
This is why the Scottish Govt want more fiscal control.....
Swire ”suarez' es estupido!
Mar 17th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:D
A_voice
Mar 17th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yer OFF-TOPIC on the Scottish crap, El Hamish.
Attention-seeking, Approval-wanting Troll,
We're laughing at your gratuitous bragging.
We're wondering why you are making such inexplicable outbursts - ie. “what made you say such a thing?”
You're so defensive and so childish about showing off that it's funny. And a bit pathetic :-)
...I don't understand...my reply was to Chris R with his need to tell me he was paying tax to the UK.....
Mar 17th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..here it is...“I pay tax in three countries.....so what....is that supposed to mean something...?”
Don't you follow discussions...of course not...you just like to take comments out of context and make a bid deal of them....
...a true Troll.....
Clyde pays tax in two countries Scotland and England....
ChrisR probably pays tax in two countries Uruguay and England....
I pay in three.....so what???
Are you jealous or something?...because you only pay in one...
I love listening to your, “I'm better than you” rants - you are so insecure and childish.
Mar 17th, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-D
@46
Mar 17th, 2014 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Inaccurate as usual, Road Tax was abolished in the 1930's. Its Vehicle Excise Duty! And, its based on emmisions. With the amount of hot air you generate you should probably be paying more.
Stevie@44, Yr remark “Bauer, you are literally inept to comprehend the word literally...”...WTF is that ?? Comprehend the WORD literally, or maybe, the WORLD ?? either way, makes no sense. Please explain...won't take the the piss out of you, would really like to understand.
Mar 17th, 2014 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And why are you feeling sorry for Voicey ??....go and shack up with him, you'd make a sweet odd couple.
Voicey@46& 49...you really think you're the bee's knees, don't you ?? ..when you see you've crapped yourself, instead of wiping your fat ass, you attack ...well, they DO say that “attack is the best method of defence”...but it won't help you, you can't sweep your crap under the carpet.
Your “”As both of you are incapable of thinking laterally..I'll make it easy for you..US...School tax and County tax“...we can't think LATERALLY ??
Is that your excuse ?? trying to sound sophisticated, are you ? Just learn how to express yourself , numbnuts.
And, your ”I pay in three.....so what??? Are you jealous or something? ...because you only pay in one...“” why jealous ? what lopsided criteria are you using to think that it's good to pay tax in more than one country? a matter of fact, when working abroad, I managed to negotiate terms with my company which meant I only paid Income Tax in the country in which I resided as a citizen... you pathetic poofta !!
Don't take it literally, Bauer...
Mar 17th, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Point one Jacky boy......
Mar 18th, 2014 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't have a fat arse....
Point two....
The lateral thinking wasn't the US tax....
Obviously... it was that folk that are in Scotland pay tax in two countries.....
Simple to comprehend...unless of course you are not a Brit.....
What are you Jack a wannabe...?
Do you suppose in future I should explain to you in Janet and John terms...?
PS...Stevie doesn't feel sorry for me, although I would imagine he may feel sorry for you....the way I highlight your stupidity.....
He likes a good larff....
...and Voicey rambles away with general baseless derision and yattering about his favourite subject, himself... yadda yadda pfft....
Mar 18th, 2014 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Back on topic. ...
Mar 18th, 2014 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0has everyone forgotten that a Junior UK minister sent the Argentine Cabinet into a complete tizzy with a few off hand comments to a couple of dubious news reporters?
The useless trolls are so off topic they're taking about where they might be paying tax.
No wonder Argie land is falling apart if this how they conduct themselves.
Argentina: Making people laugh since 1810
“Swire considered that the opposition’s Massa and Macri would have a “more realistic and mature” vision over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands dispute than the Kirchnerite administration.”
Mar 18th, 2014 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is perfectly understandable. It is difficult to think of anyone more unrealistic and immature than the Ks (and the trolls here).
As the trolls have proved with their bickering above.
Mar 18th, 2014 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0#46
Mar 18th, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0At the risk of being pedantic, Vehicle Excise Tax is administered in SWANSEA which is in Wales. So, payments are directed there and then transferred to the Treasury. Also, taxation is not paid in England, but in the U.K. It so happens that the administrative departments and the UK Treasury are situated in England but are not “English”
59
Mar 18th, 2014 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right that was pedantic....
Soooo...to summarise Council Tax is collected and used locally in Scotland and the rest of the taxes go to England....so that is...let me see ermm...two countries and via a third country...
60. Except that doesn't follow your logic of paying School tax to the USA. You are paying it to your local jurisdiction and maybe to a state not certainly Federal.
Mar 18th, 2014 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I paid VAT in the 3 the countries I visited last year with barely a refund. Does that count?
Pedants of the world unite!
Mar 18th, 2014 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't remember the number countries I have paid VAT in...
Yankeeboy and ilsen,
Mar 18th, 2014 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@61, 62
As I pointed out to A_Voice @48
“Yer OFF-TOPIC on the Scottish crap, El Hamish.”
He's not interested in the topic at hand, and he has striven to stay OFF-TOPIC, whether as a DISTRACTION, or to centre the conversation on himself.
Re. Swire - certainly his comments should make the Argentinian public pause to think, “ will we have more fruitful discussions with the ”Malvinas“ using CFK as the conduit, or the alternative, Macri and Massa?”
I agree, Troy.
Mar 18th, 2014 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Make that man speak more often and louder...
61
Mar 18th, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yeah that's right school tax and County tax is local jurisdiction....I don't pay any federal tax as I don't earn....there.
I didn't actually include paying VAT in other countries I visit or different State tax on purchases in different States...I mean that I am VAT registered and pay VAT direct to the Govt.... everyone technically pay VAT on normal purchases unless it is zero rated like...basic food items; books, newspapers and magazines etc...
I don't know if you are entitled to a refund...I don't know how VAT works in the US in the UK if your turnover exceeds a certain figure, VAT registration is compulsory, but you can claim VAT back on business related purchases but not for personal use...
Also EU countries VAT is not applicable on direct imports if VAT registered....depends what trade relationship the US has with other countries....
@53...Ok Stevie, Let's just drop it....I'd probably get more sense out of a wall.
Mar 18th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voicey @54 :So you don't have a fat ass...OK, I'll have to take your word because I've never seen it, nor do I want to.
But your “lateral” thinking is just a load of hogwash...the fact I do not live in the UK, does not mean I'm not a Brit...I might be, I might not be, but I don't see what that has to do with you...you may live in Scotland, but YOU are not a Brit.
Me, a wannabe ?? don't think so - I have all I need, and I have all I want...
As for Stevie, he feels sorry for himself...it's easy to see he is an envious individual, with little or nothing to offer....but that is HIS problem, and if YOU want to comfort him , be my guest.
One last thing : you said you didn't have a fat ass, but you did NOT contest the “poofta”.....the truth's coming out, isn't it ??
Inmature is Swire (arse biscuit) making such comments to talk to Macri and Masa.
Mar 18th, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The next argentine president might be like Galtieri.
#67
Mar 18th, 2014 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bring it on !!! Then we will have a real excuse to knock the crap out of you !
67 Sussie
Mar 18th, 2014 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”(Arse biscuit)
Immature is “Sussie”.
What's an “Arse Biscuit ”, Pederast ???
@ 68 Cloudy15
Mar 18th, 2014 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'to knock the crap out of you!'..
really?...
You cannot find your way back home, stupid old man!
@69 Mr. Trojan Rubbers
1o hours posting in this web site but cannot find the meaning
of 'arse biscuit' in the internet....?????
@69, Troy, “arse biscuit” is what civilized folk call “dingleberries”....that inconvenient piece of crap that sticks to the arse hair on bums...OR, what Sussie eats after his dog biscuits run out.
Mar 18th, 2014 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 071 Jack B
Mar 19th, 2014 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yuck !!
“Sussie” is one sick guy...
Oh dear. ..
Mar 19th, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0the trolls have achieved their purpose and dragged this thread into their own sewer of distraction.
Let's not forget that the topic is about how the casual verbal power of a UK Minister can derail the focus of a squid Republic and send it's trolls into a tailspin.
Ha fuckin ha loser trolls.
Proven to fail. Time after Time.
#70
Mar 19th, 2014 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0If that is the case , idiot, how come I am sitting at my computer in my own house at 11:50 am after working in the garden ?
We knocked the crap out of Argentina in a civilised manner in 1982. Do you wish a re-run ?
I suppose a “home ” for you is some trash can up a back alley and then a trip to the internet cafe where you clean the toilets in exchange for a burger and a go on the internet.
#71
Bum trinket is another expression for same... even classier !
@ 73 British Fanny....
Mar 19th, 2014 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'sewer distraction' ....
Is Swire comments...
'casual verbal power of a UK Minister'....
Only drunks make such comments
'derail the focus of a squid Replublic'...
How many people knows who is Swire?
@74 Cloudy 15
Argieland killed islanders...
and 300 british soldiers...
and
still the UK wants diplomatic relations ?????????
It does not make sense...
Islands or no Islands
CFK or no CFK
Argentina is anti-british!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ooh!
Mar 19th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Argentina is anti British. Oooooh...
Like anyone in the UK actually cares?
If they even know where it is!
Argentina: The Almighty Squid Republic; being ignored since 1810.
@ 76 Daft COW...
Mar 19th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the UK does not care, why to keep diplomatic relations?.....
why Swire made such comments?
#77
Mar 19th, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Germany and Japan killed 100's of thousands of British troops and civilians but we have diplomatic relations with them BECAUSE they changed their political systems and took aboard democracy. What was the alternative ?
Hating a country for generations only leads to further conflicts and more deaths
Is it not better for counties to talk to each other than risk military confrontation.
As far as I am concerned it doesn't matter to me if we have diplomatic relations with Argentina. I consider the country neither a friend nor an enemy.
If YOU wish to consider the UK an enemy that is your choice and no doubt it makes you feel good to cover your own inadequacies.
@78 TOSSER
Mar 20th, 2014 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK and USA invaded Iraq killing thousands for NOTHING.!!!!!
From Bush 'Mission Accomplished' supported by the UK PM Blair
to
'Is time to turn the page' = No victory = statement made by USA Obama.
No doubt the UK and USA felt good to invade Iraq to cover their own inadequacies.
'79
Mar 20th, 2014 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK and USA invaded Iraq killing thousands for NOTHING.!!!!!
Correct, we got nothing out of it except the removal of a despotic tyrant who destabilised the Middle East. In doing so, it cost us the lives of our service=men and billions. Other countries sat back and did nothing then went in to get oil and contracts after S.H. was removed.
Yes, we have inadequacies as a country, but ARGENTINA is in a league of it's own.
As someone who purports to live in the USA and is OBVIOUSLY hispanic/latino, why do you live there whilst hating the country ?
Why not return to the paradise of Argentina ?
The article reads:
Mar 21st, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Capitanich insisted that UK hopes for “flexibility” in the bilateral row with the opposition leaders pretends to deny the fact that the government of Cristina Fernandez continues to call the coalition government of British Prime Minister David Cameron to abide by UN resolutions that urge both parties to hold talks over the sovereignty of the Islands...
Let me see... This Capitanich is attempting to attack the opposition candidates by saying that they might be willing to be “flexible”. Which of course means that the current administration remains “inflexible” and considers flexabilty towards negotiations something that should be condemned.
Then this Bozo (a classic US Clown character) further condemns the opposition for failing to acknowledge the Administrations continued demand for “talks” with the UK!
WHY on Gods earth would the UK want to enter “talks” with a group that is not only inflexible, but condemns any suggestion of flexibility?
Whats there to talk about? And if they did have a talk, wouldnt it be a very short talk? Argie: “We demand.” UK: Well, maybe we could... Argie”NO! We demand., UK: Possibly we could..., Argie: NO! We demand!
That conversation would be over in about 2 minutes.
79 sussie@usa
Mar 21st, 2014 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So how is that trailer park working out for you? Tell me sussie, is yours one of those “extra luxury” models with a proper bathroom?
Or is it just a standard one with a hole cut in the floor?
@81
Mar 22nd, 2014 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the Islanders are not present at these 'compulsory negotiations' then perhaps there should be a letter from them...
Argentina: At last (sh1t Argentine/Spanish trumpet fanfare) we meet without the kelpers, we are so scared of them we would sh1t our pants if they were present-let's 'dialogue'- when are you going to give us the Falklands?
UK: It mentions in the resolution, the Granting of Independence to colonies so as the people there are not Argentine nationals we can't. Besides it says according to the UN charter that self determination is applicable.
Argentina: But it's in our constitution the Islands are ours.
UK: Not in ours though. It also says in the resolution that the Islander's interests have to be taken into account, so we have a letter from them to express their interests.
Dear Gollum,
It is not in our interests for you to colonise the Falklands , and Ban Ki Moon (you know, the geezer in charge of the UN) said it's up to us to decide what to do.
Also, we would be financially worse off if we were a part of your country that hasn't really got going in 200 years, has it?
And we don't want to wait another 200 to see if you can get your act together.
Love and kisses
FIG
Argentina: Implants! That cannot be anything to do with it!
UK: So you reject the interests of the Islands?
Argentina: No! We have a lot to offer the Islands, that they couldn't get from you, or for themselves.
UK: Like what?
Argentina *Stunned Silence and brain seizure*
UK: Same time again next year for the foreseeable future until the Islanders declare independence?
Argentina: *Still silence-desperately thinking of a good reason for the Islanders to want Argentine sovereignty.*
The next day-Senors can you leave this room now, the British delegation left last night.
Argentina: Malbec! They all get free Malbec! That is clearly taking their interests into account!
(Gollum picks up phone): Senor Hague, we have a new proposal regarding the interests of the Kelpers.....
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