Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II will meet with Pope Francis at a private audience in the Vatican on Thursday afternoon. The Queen, who’ll be accompanied by her husband, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, will also have a private encounter with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano during the one day visit to Rome. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAs befits her role and grace; she won't be blabbing to everyone about what was discussed.
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL, she'll be lucky, better expect a long wait. He's too busy these days dealing with numerous RG visitors calling in, looking for favours and interventions for this that and the other. This is no ordinary Pope, its an Argentine Pope.
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 FI_Frost
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Her Majesty doesn't wait. The Pope and the Holy See are falling over themselves to have such a distinguished visitor. Especially one that won't be ranting on about unimportant matters and then immediately turn around and blab about everything that was discussed, and then add some lies in there too, for good measure.
It will be like a breath of fresh air for them all.
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Apr 03rd, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ LEPRecon
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0She will have to wait and according with what is published on the press she is not going to have courtesy protocol or treatment as a head of state in the Vatican.
And she will be received in at little room close to the Pablo VI room.
Its just an informal audience like could have Shakira, but at least Shakira sings what your queen does by the way?
Obvious that is a big contrast with the visit of Obama, Cristina, etc whom were escorted by the Swiss guards and have received all the honours as a any important head of state has.
Seems that Britons have a new king and is called Francis according with this picture.
http://bucket3.clanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/45/malvinas-1861745w300.jpg
ha ha
really humiliating, very humiliating...
And another clear show of the irrelevance of GB for the western world and how isolates is in the world.
Sad really sad...
I just wonder how the crown and the corrupted politicians in GB (that like to commit voting fraud) have managed to destroy a nation like this.
No so long GB had an empire, dominated the political world, the world commerce, etc.
And look now just declining and declining and becoming more and more irrelevant for the west...
Danny, envious again,
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0it will be a good for the pope to meet who bring abt the best of British,
and certainly wont be crying for Argentina..
Dany
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reread the article. It's a state visit. Just the audience is private.
Yes yes the UK is isolated and yet you can't talk about it enough.
He is no common Pope... He is the Anti Pope
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGBHfXPqbgI
She has seen off four popes already and I dare say she will see of this one. Glod bles you.
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Big mouth Conqueror, Dollar DanyBerger, Nazi LEPRecon...for God's sake..how can you be so ignorant ??? !!!!
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's a meeting that joins the Catholic Church, the Anglican Church and the Freemasonry...almost the whole Western culture will be toghether (in an informal meeting)....and you keep on discussing about FI? You cannot be more ignorant !!!
The irony of this meeting, the anecdote of it, is that those who represent the West were born in the UK and Argentina. Two former ally countries now quarreling for a small and tiny Island with less than 3,000 people.
#5
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0See you are back to full trolling mode now.
Poor attempt...must try harder.
For a start, it is not a State visit but a private meeting.
Quote:-
The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh will arrive in Rome at lunchtime and have a meeting with Giorgio Napolitano, Italy's octogenarian president, before crossing the Tiber for their private, half-hour audience with the Pope.
Officials said the visit would be informal with minimal protocol and that the Queen would not wear black or a veil a requirement for women meeting the pontiff on more formal occasions.
The level of protocol will be far lighter than on previous visits, a British official said.
Instead of taking place amid the grandeur of the Apostolic Palace, the meeting will be held in the Pope's study, not far from Casa Santa Marta, the Vatican hotel for visiting prelates in which he lives.
I can see why Christina was escorted by the Swiss guards, she would try to steal anything that was not nailed down.
I am sure there are a lot of people in the UK who think that the visit is of no great importance....but only a polite acknowledgement of the Pope's position as head of the RC Church.
The Pope could have said he was not available at this time as he was too busy sorting out paedophile priests and sexually frustrated nuns.
I have this on authority of my Catholic friends who were brought up in this regime..
However, as YOU think we are humbling ourselves to the R.C.Mafia, the words of an old Ulster song may be apposite.
If the pope says no, then we'll have another go on the banks of the Boyne in the morning”
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Apr 03rd, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0can you repeat that in modern text please..
@Anglotino
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reread the article. It's a state visit. Just the audience is private.
It is not man... is and informal audience.
Which part of informal you don't understand?
“The informal meeting with the head of the Roman Catholic Church will not be held in the Apostolic Palace at the Vatican but in the Pope's Study, part of a suite of rooms within the Pope Paul VI Audience Hall.”
This is a modest little room...
Head of states when have state visits to the Vatican are received at the Apostolic Palace that is the protocol.
“The Queen will not wear black or a mantilla - a lace veil - for the meeting in keeping with the informal nature of the visit, a Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said.”
Can you see the informal nature of the visit?
The diplomatic Ambassador Baker is playing with words because he smartly forgot to mention that this arrival and departure events will be at Rome in Fiumicino airport over Italian soil not the Vatican which is another state.
She is not going to have any recognition, treatment or protocol courtesy as a head of state in the vatican visit.
The poor Ambassador Baker is trying to do his best job to give some sense of importance to this for internal mass consumption in GB because otherwise will be seen as a real humiliation.
What really is...
May be he is going to copy, paste and edit same images of the plane to locate it into the vatican.
Who knows?
I can see why Christina was escorted by the Swiss guards, she would try to steal anything that was not nailed down.
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well, that may be true.
about the paedophile, it is weird that the protestant and anglican church do not say a thing about their own cases.
it is even weirder that the press (except those specialized in that matter) does not say too much either.
most of all when the vast majority of the cases of sex abuse comes from those two churches.
Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/06/18/80877.htm
anyway, not a surprise britain has so many cases of paedophilia.
even their finest general was one of them.
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/06/18/80877.htm
not to mention the number of abuses in iraq and afghanistan.
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/06/18/80877.htm
in schools
Wave of Sexual Abuse Allegations for Private Boys’ Schools in Britain
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/06/18/80877.htm
or in detention centers
A true horror story: The abuse of teenage boys in a detention centre
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/06/18/80877.htm
I dont understand KK commenters like DanyBerger who use the Pope for their own agenda
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The official media of the government and Kirchener identified the Cardinal as a enemy of the regime and the model
La Nacion, November 2011
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1421437-bergoglio-kirchner
Cristina about Bergoglio in July 2010
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1421437-bergoglio-kirchner
Official Media 678 attacking Bergoglio in 2010
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1421437-bergoglio-kirchner
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1421437-bergoglio-kirchner
A spokesperson for Queen Elizabeth has just said that the Pope backs the stance that the UK has as regards the sovereignty of the FALKLANDS and asked the Queen where the Malvinas were.
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dany,
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of your great problems is that you appear unable to see the world through other people's eyes. You live in a Catholic country but we don't. So what narrow political point-scoring your political leaders might want to achieve back home from a papal audience, is utterly different to the purpose of the Queen visiting the vatican.
Similarly, you weep and wail for us that we no longer rule the world because you couldn't imagine the shame of losing face. But for us the empire is ancient history, it ended long before I was born. So today we make our way in the world as a medium-sized country that makes significant global contributions not least in science and technology. I have no regrets about that at all. We all have to pay our way, well most of us anyway.
#14
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought I would feed you that line so you could dredge up more on the subject.
Yes, there are paedophiles in the UK but it is not mandatory.
The difference is that we find them out and prosecute them.
I presume from your holier than thou attitude that it is unknown in Argentina OR that no one would dare to say anything against the Catholic Church OR that it is just ignored by the populace because it is common practice.
The reason that it is always protestant churches involved is because of the vice like grip the Catholic church has on its members.
Anyway, the bulk of the accusations came from Ireland, an almost 100%
Roman Catholic country. Everything was hushed up with priests just being moved to another parish.
Dany
So what you are saying is that the Argentine Pope is deliberately snubbing the Queen by refusing her a meeting in the Apostolic palace.
So, the Pope would alienate the Roman Catholics in Britain by downgrading her visit ?
Can you quote the Vatican spokesman who told you this OR is it just another Dany fabrication from the book of Trolls..
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Apr 03rd, 2014 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0clyde
as always wrong dear clyde.
The difference is that we find them out and prosecute them.
it seems you find them when they are already dead.
like the finest general, jimmy savile, and the list goes on.
not a surprise when you start the investigation 40 years after the case occurred.
Police investigating sexual abuse at a Durham detention centre say they believe they have uncovered an organised paedophile ring operating in the 1970s and 80s with more than 500 potential victims.
the cons of living in a tiny island, i guess.
must be the same in malvinas, or even worse.
#19
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As always peddling one sided stories.
You categorically deny systematic abuse by Catholic clergy and the decades of cover up by the Church.
WE recently had a Cardinal outed by catholic priests at a seminary. The abuse having taken place 30/40 years prior. This had been hushed up for all that time as it would have shown the church in a bad light
So when your lot are as pure as you say, then maybe I will take your one-sided posts seriously.
The Chief Delusionist will no doubt ask Her Majesty for her blessing, particularly as there is no one “above” him to do it, including “god”.
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DIRTYDANNYBURGER ,by all accounts the Pope is ITALIAN he is born of Italian parents in one of the many Slums in B.A
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The difference is that we find them out and prosecute them
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prove it,
you scroll our papers,
show us your papers stories of all the prosecutions you guys made ..
Oh no the Pope sat around waiting for Her Majesty to turn up.
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She was a tad late.
But at least he did no cry and complain to the UN, like CFK ...lol
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From the Daily Telegraph 3/4/2014
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It was the first meeting of the Queen and Prince Philip with Pope Francis, 77, since he was elected pontiff last March. As they swept into the inner sanctum of the Vatican they were met by an honour guard of a dozen Swiss Guards in traditional striped red, blue and yellow uniforms.
From the Daily Mail:
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try again Capt
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pope Francis was often quiet on Argentine sex abuse cases as archbishop
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/pope-francis-was-often-quiet-on-argentine-sex-abuse-cases-as-archbishop/2013/03/18/26e7eca4-8ff6-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html
I saw the meeting on the news. When the Pope arrived, he made a slight bow to the Queen. Charming well mannered man,,,,unlike his compatriots
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you see the Pope whisper into the ear of The Queen with the wordsignore that bitch Cristina she will rot in hell
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Life became a bit of a picnic for Pope Francis on Thursday when the Queen presented him with a luxury hamper during her historic visit to the Vatican - and in return he gave her an orb for Prince George.
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The monarch and her husband Prince Philip had a private audience with the pontiff, the fifth she has met, for 17 minutes. Smiling brightly, she apologised to the Holy See after she was 20 minutes late.
The hamper contained 18 items from Buckingham Palace, Windsor, Sandringham and Balmoral including two types of honey, a bottle of whiskey, 'Coronation Best Bitter, 'Grandad's chutney' and 'Sandringham handmade aromatherapy soaps'.
In return the Pope presented the Queen with a lapis lazuli orb - a semi-precious stone - decorated with a silver cross of Edward the Confessor, the 11th Century English King who was made a saint, as a gift for the eight-month-old prince, with an inscription on the base that read ‘Pope Francis, to His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge’
@ Gordo1
Apr 03rd, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BS as always from your propagandistic British media as usual....
You just have to see the video of that...
First video shows when she arrives and departed from the meeting as you can see none is even escorting her and seems to be lost.
The escort of the Swiss guard are for the pope residence whom salute him easy to understand when he comes out from his residence and he goes to the little room for the meeting with Elizabeth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_m50AHrg0s
In the second video you can see more clear that your queen got lost and was heading toward the guards as if them were expecting for her, but not and she was guided by the man to the other side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_m50AHrg0s
Didn't know Dany was such a royal watcher. It's as if he hangs on every thing she does.
Apr 04th, 2014 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh well we got the Queen, you got Cristina. Bahahahahahahahahaha
Everybody loves the Queen of England, even the foreigners.
Apr 04th, 2014 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 05
Apr 04th, 2014 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dany....
Obvious that is a big contrast with the visit of Obama, Cristina, etc whom were escorted by the Swiss guards
....have you ever been to the Vatican Dany..?
It's no big deal being escorted by the Swiss guards....
I was escorted by the Swiss Guards, when I was escorted (Thrown out) of the Popes Crypt.....
........don't ask....
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Apr 04th, 2014 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everybody loves the Queen of England, even the foreigners.
yeah, right..
her neighbours love her
lol
Clashes break out in Ireland protests against Queen
http://jafrianews.com/2011/05/19/clashes-break-out-in-ireland-protests-against-queen/
She felt so lost in that small simple room and look so jealous of Francis's popularity.
Apr 04th, 2014 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@36 A_Voice
Apr 04th, 2014 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0So what did you do??? Moon the Pope? Break out the chorus to Sympathy for the Devil? Proposition a Swisse Guard? Don't leave us hanging...
That was a long time ago but I remember it well. Those chaps just wanted a days leave from prison to go and cheer the Queen and buy her some flowers. Many Irish still regard the Queen as their Queen and are vociferous in her support. God save the Queen. The Pope gave her some very nice gifts.
Apr 04th, 2014 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@A_Voice
Apr 04th, 2014 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok! I won’t ask...
But you have been lucky compared to your poor lonely queen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv2YIfAvl-A
#41
Apr 04th, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We must be watching different videos or you need to go to Specsavers.
He watches them in-between Debbie does Dallas….lol.
Apr 04th, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very dignified and polite man I thought.
Apr 04th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did not realise he was so big.
He's built like a Vatican Outhouse!!!!!!!!!
Good job he is a man of god.
paulcedron, etc
Apr 05th, 2014 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whilst I'm sure the topic of paedophilia never reared its ugly head in the meeting,
there is a BIG difference between the religious clergy buggering little boys and non-religious disc-jockeys having their way with under-age girls.
Whilst condoning neither, it seems to me that the position of God, his personnel and the Faith is a much greater issue when it comes to 'protecting the flock'.
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