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Argentina thanks Papua New Guinea for its support in the Malvinas claim

Saturday, April 5th 2014 - 03:00 UTC
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Argentina's deputy foreign minister Eduardo Zuaín made an official visit to Papua New Guinea to establish closer political, cooperation and trade links and to thank the local government for their standing support for Argentina's Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty dispute at the UN Special Committee on Decolonization. Read full article

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  • paulcedron

    not even papua new guinea, a member of the commonwealth, supports britain regarding malvinas.
    neither the u.s.a., nor the rest of america, the whole africa, almost all europe, rusia, the list goes on and on...
    the u.k. is isolated as a lunatic in this matter.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    The Argentines should set up a nice tractor fsctory to show their gratitude to Papua New Guinea.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tik Tok

    Gee whizz Paul, an international heavyweight supporting Argentina Government, that will make you feel happy and the world won't give a shit. But probably as usual this will be Argentina propaganda and PNG have no idea of the bullshit being spun by idiots like you.
    Why is it that every Argentine I speak to is resigned to the notion that there is little current hope under the Argentine regime of Kirchner, the country is going down the toilet due to the madness of the government. Yet by virtue of your statement you support these idiots!!! Yet it's no point in trying to explain what a crazy bunch of complete twats that Kirchner and crew are, you will learn the hard way, because you are wearing blinkers.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    All this nonsensical “support” being announced is just another ploy to divert the the attention of the Argentine public from the real problems.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    like how was the crop harvests,

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @1
    I am bitterly disappointedly that Papua New Guinea is purportedly “ supporting” Argentina in its claim to sovereignty over the FALKLANDS. I am relaxed in the fact that Tristan da Cunha has not yet voiced its “support” in a similar fashion. Although I heard a whisper that the Isle of Wight is to hold a referendum as regards SELF DETERMINATION as they would like to add their “ support” to Argentina. Isle of Man is next I hear, remember you heard it here first.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Paul

    I keep telling you, the issue of self determination for nSGTs was voted on by the UNGA in 2008. Contrary to your rant the UN decided that sovereignty disputes were not a reason to deny self determination and the MAJORITY voted with the UK.

    Argentina was supported by only Latam and a few rogue states like Syria and Iran.

    Isolated....? not us....not when countries are actually asked properly.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    This was what the representative of Papua New Guinea said at the 'Special Committee on Decolonization Considers ‘Question of the Falkland Islands' 14th June 2012, this is the latest statement they made in the C24 I can find. So it supports peaceful negotiation, with the Falkland Islanders and the UK, how is that supporting your claims Argentina? They were also politely saying that the C24 are out of touch and they should be working towards 'fulfilling the rights of all peoples to self-determination'. They also reiterated that the Isslanders wishes should be taken into consideration. Don't think they are actually on your side argentina, sounds like they are on the side of self determination.

    'ROBERT GUBA AISI ( Papua New Guinea) supported the view that the working methods of the Special Committee must be “retooled” in order to better achieve its goals. If not, it ran the risk of being marginalized within the United Nations family. The Special Committee must put together an innovative work plan with clear benchmarks to make progress towards fulfilling the rights of all peoples to self-determination. A “one size fits all” approach was not appropriate; cases should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.

    However, he said, that could only be accomplished with the active participation of all stakeholders, and the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas) was no exception. Papua New Guinea had joined the consensus today in the belief that the only way to break the impasse was through negotiations and dialogue. While respecting the views and positions of both parties, the people of the Islands themselves should not be “idle spectators” in the process. “The Falkland Islands have had a voice,” having participated in the work of the Special Committee; Islanders themselves had been heard today. He felt that those wishes should be an inclusive part of the negotiation process.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @8 Loooool

    This is clearly part of a pattern. Whenever an Argentine Minister visits country X, a press release is issued immediately afterwards stating that country X supports the Argentine position. Typically there is no corresponding press release from country X.

    In reality, it will turn out that when asked, country X has stated itself to be in favour of peaceful settlement and dialogue. This is hardly surprising, since the only country in the world that has ever opposed peaceful settlement and dialogue, and indeed continues to oppose the latter, is none other than the Republic of Argentina itself.

    If country X was asked, on the other hand, whether it supports Argentina's rejection of law, democracy, and human rights in pursuit of its territorial aims in the South Atlantic, you can be sure the answer would be 100% different.

    This is a typically short-sighted Argentine move. While it may help to keep the wool pulled over the eyes of the domestic population in the short term, in the longer run countries will soon get fed up of being misrepresented in this manner.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Paul its always sensible to have the headhunters on your side!

    Bahahahaha

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I really hope PNG isn't looking to emulate any part of Argentina.

    Especially considering Australia gives A$527 million a year in aid. Yep that's right, half a billion dollars.

    The last thing we need is for them to blow their wad like Argentina has.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Argentina thanked PNG and stated they would now get a head with their claim.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulecdron- Is it possible for you to understand that nations that ask for a peacefull settlement to a dispute between 2 countries - are doing just THAT.
    They are not taking sides - just stating the blindly obvious.
    It is such a pity that you are totally Blind!

    Australia and Canada take the same position - are you going to come on here and claim they support Argentina!
    Show me please where USA supports Argentina - it does NOT - nor does it support the UK .

    Show me where Chile supports Argentina in practical measures please. They give you some meaningless verbal support at the UN in a Committee which has zero international power. They also recognise the existence and the name of the Falkland Islands Govt and call it as such and have regular trade and communications with us- ie they RECONISE we are here.
    Uruguay does exactly the same- remember any vessel from the Falklands can go to Chile or Uruguay- all it does is swap the FI marine flag to the Britiish marine flag at the border- which they are entitled to do.
    Brazil- ships go in there under whichever flag- Brazil again gives you a bit of verbal support where it is meaningless - but where it affects their economy they could not give a damn about Argentina.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @Paulcdron Take a look at the real world and not the world according to Argentina and the botox queen.

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/09/07/falklands-referendum-recognized-by-cpa-members-and-south-africa-as-free-and-fair

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bubba

    Where does Cristina and company stand on Peru and Bolivia claiming land lost in the Pacific War, or Bolivia and the annexation of the Pantanal by Brazil?

    Just asking....

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Why has Argentina ignored this obviously vital and important ally for 38 years!

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jwolf

    Good Lord, Argentina has New Guinea on its side? Well that's it, it's all over. Might as well sign the transfer of sovereignty paperwork now.........

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    3
    no, you dimwit.
    i am totally against kirchner and i couldn´t care less about the islets.
    it is just a description of the situation.
    nobody supports the uk in this issue.
    they are alone as “locos malos”.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cognitio

    No please no...not Papua New Guinea. All is surely lost....

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Bear in mind that this is “a release from the Argentine Foreign ministry”, which should usually begin with “Once upon a time”. I think the 3rd paragraph confirms that: “Argentina's economic development...an example to follow in Papua New Guinea.” I mean, of course - what country *wouldn't* want to follow Argentina's glorious example and become a corruption-ridden, thieving cesspit?

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @1 Here's link to their defence force maybe they can help you, after all it's probably in better nick than yours.outhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papua_New_Guinea_Defence_Force

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    paulie, it would be more accurate to say that the White House or Washington supports Argentina, but I think even that is pushing it. The only way you can accurately make that statement is to point to a poll of the American people that indicates the people support Argentina against the Falklands.
    The USA is not a populist government.....never has been and never will be. That being said, enjoy what you perceive as US government support of the Falklands.....for two more years at best, because the best you're getting is an under the table handjob from barney osama. In two years.......thankfully for our laws he is a library in the making.

    So I repeat.....what polls indicate that the USA (not the executive branch of goverment) supports Argentina?

    BTW.......what map is the Malvinas on? The Emerald City map? The map with USAMEX...whatever that is? The map with Atlantis? Did the Malvinas sink with Atlantis? Where there antediluvain kings that sent people out to all corners of the earth to keep the legend of the Malvinas alive?

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “That being said, enjoy what you perceive as US government support of the Falklands....”
    i do not enjoy anything related with the islets.
    as i said, you can keep them for... 10, 50, 100 years more if you want.
    couldnt care less about those pieces of rock, obama, his bitch cameron and all that sh*t.

    but it is funny to see how it hurts to the english / british that their masters, the americans, do not support them.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #23
    Sorry to burst you self inflated balloon but the British public could not give a flying f'##k whether the USA supports them over the Falklands or not.
    If they started to interfere in Argentina's favour, then there would be a burst up not necessarily in the USA's favour. If we distanced ourselves from US policies then we may have an easier life.
    Don't confuse the British public with their twats of politicians.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

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    Apr 05th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    1 paulcedron

    As far as I recall the UK has always been prepared to go it alone when they are in the right, as per the early part of WWII. Especially when all the legal rights are on their side, there is no legal way to change the status quo. Argentina seems to believe it can win by whining, which isn't going to happen.
    Simply because “there is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes”.
    Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Professor Ian Brownlie
    “The precise scope of the obligation is, however, that states should settle disputes peacefully, not that they should settle them. In other words, there is no general rule requiring a state to settle its grievances. Rather, the rule is that if a state does decide to settle, this must be done in a peaceful manner.”
    page 275
    Textbook on International Law By Dr. Martin Dixon
    http://books.google.com.br/books...

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Shit chaps the unmighty CFK has now got the unmighty PNG on their side,
    RUN, Run for your lives....
    chuckle, chuckled , mmmmm

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    @23 paulie

    “ that their masters, the americans, do not support them”

    I don't know if the UK/US relationship is so one sided. The UK's foreign policy seems a a bit more level headed, practical, and long term. They don't respond at all to many years of Argentine “malvinas” lies, rhetoric, and outright tripe . Nuclear weapons in the Falklands?, the Belgrano was outside the “established solely by their adversary” exclusion zone? The UK doesn't spend a second responding to this, they know to respond would gain “not a thing”. They are just more level headed about American “boisterism” as well I think.

    I'd like to ask your opinion, “after the UK, what is the next most militarily powerful ally that the US has?” (Japan and Germany are allies but have limited military capability)

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    26
    “As far as I recall the UK has always been prepared to go it alone when they are in the right,..”
    lol
    LOL
    good one

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    Is this yet another case of an Argentine politician thanking people for support they haven't actually given again?

    With regards the USA, thankfully we've also got the power of veto in the UN, so we dont need anybody else...just like Russia doesnt.

    In the case of the Falklands though Argentina cant invade again, the Islanders have armed all the Penguins now...and are capable of striking well into the heart of South America with their stealthed nuclear beaks of doom.

    Well, according to Argentinas president anyway.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rich_Martin

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    @ 30 I totally agree, they probably said yes ok whatever, just to get rid of the Argies boring them with their Malvinas bullsh*t.

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Ok. Enough .
    let's ply a hypothetical war game without the USA.

    Hmmm...

    sbut it paulie. .

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    With regard to the US as an ally, here are a couple of questions for those of you who know about military matters:
    1. Has the US brought any war to a satisfactory conclusion since 1946?
    2. Could the US have re-taken the Falklands in 1982 without becoming involved in a wider confontation, and kept the peace for 30 years in the face of a belligerent power right next door?

    Apr 05th, 2014 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “Zuaín met twice with the New Papua Guinea foreign minister to promote bilateral contacts”
    Does the PNG foreign minister have a name, or is it just that the argentine deputy foreign minister couldn’t be bothered finding out?
    But the Argentine foreign ministry has also issued a release that (breathlessly) asserts that the following countries:
    East Timor, PNG, Cuba, Venezuela, Grenada, Pitcairn Island and Iran have all expressed standing support in principal for the right of Argentina to exist as a sovereign nation – subject to certain stringent conditions.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    The reality of the situation is that after being asked whether they believed that the dispute between UK and Argentina should be decided by 'dialog' or 'negotiation' someone from the PNG government said 'yes.' This goes a long way to please the 'simpletons' back in Argentina. Fact is, they remain 'simpletons.'

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Paul

    It seems you don't want to answer the actual facts.

    You claim the UK is alone...but the last UNGA vote on the matter saw the UK secure a majority with mostly LATAM and rogue pariah states supporting Argentina.

    If the UK is alone....how do you explain this?

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    1 paulcedron

    “the u.k. is isolated as a lunatic in this matter.”

    Another well thought out and well researched argument. I stand in awe ( actually, I'm sitting down at my computer ) at the weight of your conclusions.

    Clown.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    “ For centuries past, the idea that a state could be ” sovereign “ was always connected to it's ability to guarentee the best interests of it's own citizens. Thus if a state could not act in the best interests of it's own citizens, it could not be thought of as a sovereign state.”
    Tell me why Argentina ( thinks ? ) that sovereignty over the FALKLANDS is in the best interest of either country. A reasoned response would be helpful to all.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    I am sure Timmerman could get Somalia to back us as well.
    All he has to do is handout a few Empanadas and glass beads in Mogadishu.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Quick! Line up the penguins!

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • knarfw

    41 - Never mind the penguins, send in the Johnny Nukes.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Lol

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @18 Canada. Explain.
    @29 Explain.
    And back to
    @1 Let me explain for the benefit of someone of subnormal intelligence. The Falkland Islands and associated lands are British territory. They will remain British territory until the Falkland Islanders determine otherwise. Out of 193 members of the UN, 192 have no say. Given that Britain is capable and courageous, I wonder which little fart-arse country would try to force its way. Certainly nothing in latam. Bearing in mind that latam is nothing. Why does latam create so many organisations? Are they hoping that, one day, they'll find one with guts? Not in the next thousand years.
    Here's a simple point. The United Kingdom has over 63 million people. Discount scotland. 58 million. About 40% are adult males. That's a little over 23 million. And how many would only ask for transport and an assault rifle?

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    44
    you are not the brightest of the bunch, are you?
    the thing is nobody supports little britain, that is a fact.
    not even the commonwealth members.
    and not even the u.s.a.
    and as everybody knows, little britain is less than nothing without u.s. support.
    they saved british asses many times, probably they got tired.

    as for the islets, i dont give a sh*t for them

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @45 You have allowed yourself to become brainwashed by Argentine propaganda. It is perfectly reasonable to believe that when PNG government official(s) were asked if they 'supported a peaceful dialog between UK and Argentina regarding the Falklands' someone simply said ' yes'.

    The last time the UN General Assembly voted they voted 73-54 against a motion from Argentina and Spain to put restrictions on the right to self-determination.

    Simple things please simple minds.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Paul

    So answer my question.

    If “nobody” supports the UK, how did they gain a majority vote last time there was a decision in the UNGA.

    Why were the words “where no sovereignty dispute exists” removed at the request of the UK and totally at odds with Argentinas position?

    You can't answer can you shit-for-brains?

    As for Britain being “less than nothing without US support”....it is better than Argentina on virtually every measure, both social and economic...and has better education, better innovation, more successful companies better healthcare....
    So, if Britain is less than nothing...Argentina is what?

    So..your facts are like your brains....full of shit.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @47
    Paulcedron is just a windup merchant as he has nothing intelligent to say, you only have to look back at his previous posts. I lived in Argentina for 3 years and found them ( normal Argies ) very friendly, but fiercely arrogant about their country, it is their nemesis I am afraid. A bit like an ostrich sticking their head in the sand.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tik Tok

    Paul
    Your arguments are completely nonsensical. Plenty of countries support the British position, it's like you want to come across as if you know something, yet your education about the true facts lacks. Dogged and confused is what you are.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    29 paulcedron
    26
    “As far as I recall the UK has always been prepared to go it alone when they are in the right,..”
    lol
    LOL
    good one
    ,,,,,,,,
    Interestingly and historically true old chap.
    Not so true with Argentina apparently…lol
    /////////
    34 ynsere
    1-no
    2-no.
    ,,,,,
    40 Klingon
    I am sure Timmerman could get Somalia to back us as well.
    [And we can get semolina to back us lol .]
    ,,,,,,,,,
    45 paulcedron
    The thing is nobody supports little Britain, that is a fact
    ,,
    One would suggest you read British history a bit more..

    .

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #45
    So Canada , Australia and New Zealand don't support the UK ?

    From where did you find this gem of information. Are you and Dany casting the runes ?

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    they try bless em, they really do try...lol

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Swede

    If an Argentine delegation during a visit to a foreign country says something like “We just want peaceful negotiations with the UK to solve the 'Malvinas problem'” the other country perhaps just politely agrees. “Negotiation” sounds rather innocent, and most countries do not care very much about this conflict. But the Argentine government interprets this answer as a a strong support for their territorial claim.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    grandpa clyde
    new zealand?
    it seems the maori people and authorities do not support britain too much.
    including many of the pakeha

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tik Tok

    Paul what do you really know about anything, democracy in New Zealand means that anybody can have a point of view, i.e if a person believes a certain way they can air their views and declare their support for a side in the argument and they won't be thrown out of a plane late at night in the Tasman Sea never to be heard of again. However I am quite certain the authorities, i.e the democratically elected Government of the day certainly supports Great Britain. You come across with these sweeping generalizations as if you are some sort of academic mind, but your statements are ambiguous and your suggestions very misleading. For example what is a pakeha and what of this group don't support Britain? What maori don't support Britain, the maori party are part of the government? What is too much in support, is this 5% supporting not too much or 95%? If the authorities are in Government how do they not support Britain and the Falkland Islanders position. Where is this evidence, otherwise you come up with cockamamee bullcrap to support your feeble position and you aint got an Argentinian swamp to stand on.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nololly

    Paul, we don't need support from anyone, but we have plenty including many Argentinians. One only has to read that on Twitter. There are many Argentinians who think your President is stupid and your Foreign Minister is a twat too. They, unlike stupid oafs like yourself, are intelligent enough to realise that the Mythical Malvjnas are just a distraction strategy these failures employ whilst picking your pockets.

    Bahahahaha !

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    56
    “There are many Argentinians who think your President is stupid and your Foreign Minister is a twat too.”
    yes, of course.
    me included.
    so?

    “They, unlike stupid oafs like yourself, are intelligent enough to realise that the Mythical Malvjnas are just a distraction strategy blablabla...”
    lol you all repeat the same discourse as if you have a chip in your brain.
    anyway, your knowledge of argentina is less than zero.
    so, shut it

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #54
    You think for a minute that the Maoris would favour Argentina ?
    According to you bunch of twats..“the whole world supports Argentina ”...does it
    Have you actually spoken to any Maoris. They have given you their unequivocal support ?
    You get more and more delusional. If you actually believ what yousay you are in a bad way.
    Yes, I am a Grandpa and my grandaughters have more brains in their little fingers than you have in your dense skull. I was going to be rude at this point but you are not worth the physical effort of keying the words.

    #55
    Don't you know he is the world expert on everything pertaining to the UK
    No, he isn't even close.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    58
    it seems you all are cut from the same cloth.
    you all repeat the same bullsh*t over and over again & you all always respond with personal attacks.

    guess it must be that genetic issue.
    tiny island, tiny genepool.

    Apr 06th, 2014 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    59 Pablo

    Working as a waiter at the Hotel Miramar in Spain for the summer does not make you an expert on world affairs.

    Maoris ?? LOL, what would you know about them, or New Zealand, for that matter.

    Any militant Maoris coming across an opinionated “white boy” like yourself, would likely kick your teeth in for the crap you spout.

    I'm stopping now.
    As Clyde says, you're not worth the energy to type a response, let alone argue your points.

    Isn't there school in the morning?

    Oops, I “know nothing about Argentina”, I was assuming Axel Aarghh and the teachers had finished their strike.

    I expect you're sticking around the house watching the Government TV stations.

    What do they say about Venezuela ??

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    60 troy
    have you ever been to new zealand, you bigmouth?
    or you are opining as always “por boca de ganso”, that is without knowing a damn thing.

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    61 Pablo niño
    “have you ever been to new zealand, you bigmouth?”

    Have you?

    You are making things up.

    Your government is full of crap - and so are you.

    You are supporting CFK and her BS.

    You look like a knee- jerk anti-British fanatic, and an absolute idiot.

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Please don't speak for New Zealand paulcedron, you are only showing your ignorance if you do.

    For the record I support Argentina's legitimate claims to. The Falkland Islands and the South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands.

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 04:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    61, 63,

    I too, support Argentinas legitimate claims to. The Falkland Islands and the South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands.

    Now, what about Self- Determination for the people of Venezuela?
    Is Cuba going to allowed to take their oil, and their sovereignty as well??

    Sounds oddly similar to another story...

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #59
    guess it must be that genetic issue.
    tiny island, tiny genepool.

    You keep posting this racist remark and say that WE resort to abuse.

    I suppose the Grandpa remark is a term of endearment ?

    I have had to deal with bullshitters all my working life and I can smell one in your posts.

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ManRod

    Argentine politics... please never cease to exist!
    You are such a great source of entertainment and comedy!!!

    MUAHAHAHA!!!!

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jwolf

    I don't get why so many people on here take the bait when a dipstick like Paulcedron makes the unprovable claim that most countries support Argentina against the UK when it comes to the Falklands. He might of well just thrown in the Romulans and the Klingon Empire support them too. A silly, nonsensical and immeasurable claim to make. Yet people want to argue with the fool. Why not just ignore him?
    As far as the US support is concerned truth be told most Americans could care less about the whole thing. Complete apathy over the issue. But a reminder that in 1982 the US publicly was neutral during the mediation phase but when war came it came down on its friend the UK's side, supplying vital logistics and intelligence to the British. To let this one lonely teenager in his mother's basement with a laptop get everyone on here worked up is comical.

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    dimwit 67
    “But a reminder that in 1982 the US publicly was neutral during the mediation phase but when war came it came down on its friend the UK's side, supplying vital logistics and intelligence to the British”

    yes.
    and then, you, bunch of british wannabes, say that “As far as I recall the UK has always been prepared to go it alone when they are in the right,..”

    yeah, right...

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    @68 So we've got allies, who gives a toss? Your snivelling government goes crawling to every banana republic and third world backwater they can find to get “support” for their hopeless claim.

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    The USA, Canada,Soloman Islands, Tristan da Cunha, Seychelles, Pluto and Mars support the good old UK, well done chaps. SELF DETERMINATION will win out in the end. Take note Paulcedron.

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @1

    “not even papua new guinea, a member of the commonwealth, supports britain regarding Malvinas”

    So they'll be sending a task force to help because the last time you had a crack at the UK your countrymen sh1t their pants?

    Should be plain sailing when the PNG Navy arrive.....

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    57 paulcedron

    Well, your knowledge of the Falklands is zero, and you only seem to have about three ideas, all of which are based on lies.

    So that makes me some way ahead of you. I don't know anything about Argentina, I don't pretend to and I have absolutely no interest in knowing any more than I do now.

    Apr 07th, 2014 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jwolf

    @68
    Will your Mom be charging you rent when you turn 18? I know it's a ways off but never too late to start saving.....

    Apr 08th, 2014 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #68
    Of course, poor little Argentina received no help from anyone !
    Brazil, Peru, Israel and moral support from Spain.?
    Did the USA contribute to any of the forces in the fighting.
    Were Kirkpatrick or Hague pro British in the struggle ?
    Technically the UK was attacked by a foreign power and as a NATO member could ask for logistical assistance. This was supplied from NATO stocks We received immediate offers of help from New Zealand and Australia. I am sure that at a top level it was decided that it would be a totally British operation when the actual fighting started, and it was.

    Apr 08th, 2014 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    72
    “don't know anything about Argentina, I don't pretend to and I have absolutely no interest in knowing any more than I do now.”
    and who cares?

    73
    personal attacks is all you have, you imbecile?

    74
    read a book once in a while grandpa clyde

    Apr 08th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #75
    I do read books ignorant child and I understand what I read unlike you.

    Are you just posting one of your childish throw away remarks or have you a “VALID ” point to make ? I presume you are referring to my post at 74.

    Using your copious knowledge point out where I am going wrong..

    The subject of the Falkland's war has been discussed previously before you appeared on the scene.

    Apr 08th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    75 paulcedron

    “73 personal attacks is all you have, you imbecile?”

    You're going for irony there right?? huh???

    har, har, har!!!!

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    “I don't get why so many people on here take the bait when a dipstick like Paulcedron makes the unprovable claim that most countries support Argentina against the UK when it comes to the Falklands”

    Very good comment.

    I won't be returning to this thread.

    Timewaster Paul C. has nothing to contribute.

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #78
    You are quite right. This is the best thing to do after reading one of his absurd remarks is. His duty in life is to provoke a reply which gives him a feeling of self importance. The more you feed the beast, the hungrier it gets.

    Apr 10th, 2014 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    its something quite important to read about the PNG supporting Argentina.

    Especially relevant is the PNG Navy.

    Apparently CFK is very jealous as they have 5 boats that float, something novel to the Argentine Navy as it prefers their boats to roll over and sink.

    Whilst the PNG fleet is small and old, its serviced and works.

    Apr 10th, 2014 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @80
    Yes two landing craft and a few patrol boats will be pivotal in warning the UK out of the South Atlantic.

    I was also impressed with their air wing-most aircraft unserviceable except for 6 Bell Huey Iroquois.

    Christina is holding back her troops until PNG arrive.

    Apr 14th, 2014 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    oh no, a working navy and airforce.

    Im surprised CFK is not worried they will attack Argentina, they certainly seem to have air and sea superiority

    ROFL

    Apr 14th, 2014 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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