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President Higgins visit to UK consolidates reconciliation after decades of mistrust

Wednesday, April 9th 2014 - 07:19 UTC
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Queen Elizabeth II welcomed the Irish president to Britain on Tuesday for the first time since the republic became independent with a banquet also controversially attended by former IRA commander Martin Guinness. Read full article

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  • Anglotino

    Sometimes politicians just play catch-up to everyday people.

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    #1 Absolutely correct. Every time I visit the emerald isle, north or south, there is warmth and humour in abundance. Irish people can vote in our elections if they live in Britain and many have chosen to. The fact that my granny was Irish entitles me to an Irish passport. On a personal level, during my lifetime, there has never been any divide between people. All the pomp is rather outdated and over the top, but its just our establishments way of healing a percieved rift.

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    But it takes some sort of Queen who can stop the rage showing when the McGunnness-factor stops in front of her Mountbatten sarcophagus.

    I'm not sure I could be pleasant with my family-killers ... but, almost certainly, I have been.

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I for one am pleased to see this level of progress.

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 3 GeoffWard2

    I agree with your comments about our marvellous Queen.

    I lost real friends in the Birmingham bomb and what did this Irish cretin achieve other than decades of wasted lives on both sides: NOTHING.

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “I'm not sure I could be pleasant with my family-killers”
    yes, agree.
    the british have committed several killings in ireland.
    nobody should be pleasent with them.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/war-crimes-from-bloody-sunday-in-derry-northern-ireland-to-croatia-kosovo-and-iraq/26750

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

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    Apr 09th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Paulcedron- would you please comment also then on the murder of the young British Officer captured by the IRA-tortured and kneecapped first and then killed(according to IRA sources) and his body secretly disposed of?
    Oh and of the murder of pregnant mothers and children in the Omagha Remembrance Day Bombing? And of the murder of several British civilian Politicians?
    Are they not warcrimes? - please answer me this will you?

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FI_Frost

    @6 paulcedron

    The Troubles were indeed a troubling. But compared to you bananas, the excesses of security forces in NI were utterly trival: 30,000 people killed disspeared, tortured, dropped out of helicopters, children abducted? My, you people need to think a bit more before random posting of things you know knowing about.

    How many links does your supervisor make you post before you qualify a four pack of toilet roll?

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 9 FI_Frost

    With the amount of crap that arsehole posts I would think every time would be about right.

    But I wonder if he has a bog to use it on, I doubt it somehow.

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    1 in 6 people in Britain has at least 1 Irish grandparent...to say that most of the population of Ireland and Britain have been 'friendly' for generations is an understatement (wink wink).

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Paulita only shows her ignorance in these matters.

    If only she could appreciate how it is to move on from all this pain and suffering on both sides to a better future.

    Immature, typical Argie, ignorant fool.

    It takes so much to start, and continue, this kind of process. Sadly Paula is to busy waving a flag to understand.

    Could ArrrrgieLand cope with what South Africa went through? Or the British and Irish are trying to overcome?

    Oh, no! just bang the drum! you stupid little children! Enjoy staying in the Third World!
    Bolivarian Revolution, my arse!

    So much pain and bloodshed on both sides for the British/Irish, and to get this far.... Should be welcomed!

    Argies, still banging on about a lost cause. Missing out on future prosperity.

    Fools!

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “So much pain and bloodshed on both sides for the British/Irish”

    so for this imbecile the pain and bloodshed that ireland has suffered for ages because of britain is equivalent to what the british suffered.
    hard to understand whether this fool has never attended a school or if he is just another brainwashed wannabe briton.

    surely the asshole thinks that britain had nothing to do with the irish genocide

    http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-the-forgotten-white-slaves-says-expert-john-martin-188645531-237793261.html

    http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-the-forgotten-white-slaves-says-expert-john-martin-188645531-237793261.html

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    1 Anglotino (#)
    Apr 09th, 2014 - 08:00 am
    “Sometimes politicians just play catch-up to everyday people.”

    I really liked this profound comment.

    Thank you you Anglotino. You rise above the dross.

    Apr 09th, 2014 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    13 Pabby O' Furniture

    “so for this imbecile the pain and bloodshed that ireland has suffered for ages because of britain is equivalent to what the british suffered.”

    The only imbecile is you - do you READ what people say, or the articles you link to ??

    Here is what he said AGAIN,

    ilsen@12
    “So much pain and bloodshed on both sides for the British/Irish, and to get this far.... Should be welcomed!”

    and,

    “If only she could appreciate how it is to move on from all this pain and suffering on both sides to a better future.”

    Very positive comments about how these two peoples have made an exceptional effort towards friendship, away from historical conflict, as neighbours with shared pasts.

    Only an ingrate would see this as negative - but obviously Pab lo' Casey doesn't understand that - he's still wittering on about 1833, after all.

    Pab, spending a evening drinking with your bitter, mealy-mouthed cousins in Eire, does not make you an expert on either the British or the Irish.

    You would prefer to see unending animosity - you like the role of 'victim'.

    Apr 10th, 2014 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Pablo Casey (Heehee!). Numero Uno Victimo!
    I hereby grant you, on behalf of the Crown and the Republic of Ireland, the Order of The Golden Bog Roll.

    Never in the short history of Argentina has one man talked so little, about so much he knows nothing of, so often,to so few.
    Please kneel to receive your medal.
    ...
    Considering that shit flows down the hill. I think that's you covered. .....!

    Moving on to serious 1st World topics,

    I wish both the UK and the Republic of Ireland joint prosperity and happiness. An equal future for their innocent children.

    Apr 10th, 2014 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    troy and ilsen
    aka mr and mrs tempest
    aka dumb and dumber

    so now these two trolls think they are “positive”
    lol

    Apr 10th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    17 odiar niño

    Only an ingrate would see this as negative - but obviously Pab lo' Casey doesn't understand that - he's still wittering on about 1833, after all.

    Apr 10th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ricagp

    Many british commentators are not aware of it, but it's an old argentine wishful thinking - I mean, that the Irish are fanatical haters of the British and the English and, therefore, some kind of “partners” of the argentines in their resentement and impotent rage against Brits.

    It only grew stronger when they discovered the Wolfetones released a song called “Malvinas Argentinas”. It doesn't matter that the Wolfetones are not popular in Ireland anymore , except among IRA supporters and some plastic paddies in the Irish diaspora. Since then, Argentines think that Ireland is a pro-Argentine and anti-British country.

    For argies it's some kind of honour to see an European country siding with them in that pathetic struggle. They don't do the same thing with peruvians, who were their partners in 1982 and are treated like rats in Buenos Aires. Fair skinned northern europeans are far more respectable and honourable for them that dark skinned latinos.

    Unfortunately for them, the Irish couldn't care less for Argentina and the Falklands, and those who know the history of the Falklands islands immediatly make connection with their own Irish struggle for independence, sympathizing with the falklanders and not with the Argentines.

    BTW, this kind of behaviour - fanatical rage towards the Brits - is largely ridiculed in Ireland as a “plastic paddy” thing. The Irish and the English get along extremely well and are very, very similar. An Irishman feels at home in England and vice-versa, far more than he feels when he visits Continental Europe.

    And, of course, Irish and Argentine national characters couldn't be more different. I would say they're opposites.

    Apr 14th, 2014 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    19
    Good post.

    Pablo is almost a caricature of a traditional Malvinista.

    Apr 14th, 2014 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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