Argentina will witness on Thursday a new test of political clout and influence between the administration of Argentine president Cristina Fernandez and dissident organized labor, headed by teamster Hugo Moyano who has called for a national strike, anticipating it will have a resounding massive support and turnout from the Argentine people. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe president keeps calling for dialogue over the Malvinas, why doesn't she start at home and speaks to the workers
Apr 10th, 2014 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Malvinas opium seems to be running out...
Not a problem for Argies, just another day off Hurrah! Next year they will be celebrating it as a national holiday, just like them celebrating the 2nd April 1982.
Apr 10th, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now the right to strike is being investigated?
Apr 10th, 2014 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Slippery slope. But it was bound to happen.
Such a predictable path.
I wonder whether Moyano has yet realised that the OLD bitch and her cronies are going to have to be shot?
Apr 10th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess all of our Rg Trolls are too embarrassed to be posting any longer. Haven't seen one in a week.
Apr 10th, 2014 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is so fun to watch from afar.
The streets are deserted and quiet as a mouse.
Apr 10th, 2014 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bliss, actually.
- salary increases with a floor of 40%
Apr 10th, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- lifting of the minimum for income tax to 15.000 Pesos
- the administration of medical insurance services by the unions
- family allowances “for all workers”
- an “emergency” salary rise for pensioners
- the controversial issue of public security
And then everything in Argentina is going to stabilize, right?
Turmoil abounds!
Apr 10th, 2014 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0KFC wants to take away government subsidies to public transport companies if their WORKERS go on strike?
Umm... how does that work out well for anyone at all?
I think that TMBOA will be going back to hospital again soon!
Apr 10th, 2014 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anything to dodge her responsibility.
” The president keeps calling for dialogue over the Malvinas, why doesn't she start at home and speaks to the workers?“
Apr 10th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because the Argentine definition of dialogue=monologue.
She knows the chances of talking about the Falklands without meeting the people that live there (whom CFK see as scum)are practically zero.
The chances of her running Argentina without meeting the workers that live there (whom CFK also thinks are scum) are also practically zero.
Although I haven't been able to visit this site too much of late - there is never enough time when I am travelling - I have also noticed a lack of folks defending their glorious leader, CFK and her 'model'. We always said they would disappear when the shit hit the fan.
Apr 10th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1/10. Dialog for CFK seems to mean that she talks [incessantly] and everyone else agrees with her on any issue -- as proven once again with her little Twitter Tantrum with the Falklands over ballistic penguins and of course here. Can't her apologists admit that she's clocked out (but do that you actually have to clock in first).
Apr 10th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK and the Comedy club of politicians in B.A. are doing a fantastic job with the Argie economy. Three cheers for Cristina!
Apr 10th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some democracy, withhold your labour and your a dissident.
Apr 10th, 2014 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now there's a new political concept.
Just been into town and back. Everything is really quiet, only sign of a strike was a bunch of Mayano scumbags having an asado on the side of the collectora.
Apr 10th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wish traffic was this good all the time.
Unlike the opposition, the corporations, the media, farmers and all actors the K conspiracy theorists victimizers say that are plotting to overthrow CFK at every turn of the corner, the unions are the only ones in the country who have real power and mobilization of masses in the streets apart from the gov't itself.
Apr 10th, 2014 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once a close ally Cristina refused to allow Moyano’s men into the candidate lists of 2011 and filled them instead with La Campora militants. Now she is paying the price of having to confront a unified CGT and CTA.
No one likes the government anymore except themselves, those who need their protection and the evangelistic young duped banner waving militontos. Argentines need to move away from this style of politics. So much arrogance, antagonism, irresponsibility, hypocrisy etc etc.
Apr 10th, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Time to change.
@ 17 Tobers
Apr 10th, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With 15M Peronistas how is anything going to change other than by civil war?
This is a good sign.
Apr 11th, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the unions are up in arms, Kicillof is doing his job smashingly.
You can't make that cake without smashing those eggs!
Release the Momio from within, smash, smash, smash!
Like I said last week:
If the reforms bring civil disturbance, cut faster and deeper and increase police pay.
Keep up the good work!
Condorito
Universidad de Shicago
Pelotillehue
@12 Gface
Apr 13th, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Technically , I suppose, this ;
CFK: I demand that...............
CFK Sycophants: Yes Christina, you shall have it.
is dialogue-but closely related to monologue.
CFK strangely enough does not consider this dialogue:
CFK: I demand you give your Islands to me!
FIG: Go **** yourself.
But technically it is.
Argentines need to move away from this style of politics. So much arrogance, antagonism, irresponsibility, hypocrisy etc etc.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's impossible. 80 years of the same shit are not easily removed. It's like dreaming about a liberal Saudi Arabia or a Muslim Israel. You can't create a political culture out of nothing.
Remember, until recently this board was filled with high-chested kirchnerists who truly believed the stupidities they said. And they weren't from the lower classes, the villas miseria - these people cannot communicate in English (some of them not even in Spanish). Some of them were well established people from the upper middle classes. Peronist shit is not restricted to the villeros, as some people seem to think.
The tax office in Argentina is huge - 3 or 4 people doing the job one person in the UK would do and most of these people are on very good wages for doing nothing more than syphoning money off people.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I once listened to a teacher complaining about her low wages but then feeling very proud of her daughter who was earning 5 times as much as her in the tax office for essentially just moving figures around on a spreadsheet for 6 hours a day.
Thats the problem - people complain about the system but then are also very opportunistic to get a better deal regardless of how their actions affect the good and long term stability of the country. Its a vicious cycle.
I don't think the UK currently has the answers either but this is a forum about Latin American issues.
I believe Argentina can change because countries and societies can and do develop but it will need a sustained shock lasting a generation to change direction. A critical mass saying 'enough of this already'
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