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OAS Secretary General Insulza: “García Márquez Raised Latin American Literature to Global Heights”
José Miguel Insulza, today expressed his “deep sorrow over the death of Gabriel García Márquez, Colombian and Latin American author, winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature, primordial figure of the most prolific and brilliant generation of authors our continent has ever seen, who raised the literature of Latin America to global heights.” Read full article
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Apr 18th, 2014 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0A brilliant writer. Every so often nations produce great people. Name one from Argentina? I can only think of Barenboim...who has the same heritage as Gollum! What a contrast!
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0imbecile 2
Apr 18th, 2014 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0barenboim is a musician
writers: jorge borges, ernesto sabato, julio cortazar, adolfo bioy casares, manuel puig, silvina ocampo, alejandra pizarnik, roberto arlt, marco denevi, oliverio girondo, and the list goes on.
not a surprise you cannot even name one.
what´s your level of education?
kindergarten?
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Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He has never read García Márque in his life.
Faz is just being a mainstrem foca. Ugh Ugh!
Don't take them too seriously, let them pay tribute to García Márquez and when they are done, I'll post some of his best lines....
;)
I know Barenboim is a musician. Been to many of his concerts, one last year, got many records, have you Twinkie? I thought Daddy Yankee was more your sort of thing? You can Google that's for sure, but even apes can do that... And, Stevie will Google some of Marquez's best lines for you in half a mo . And, you missed Adolf off your list :-))))
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about Maradonna? Oh...he was a big cheat, what a surprise!
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is the largest pride of our Spanish America.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a quote from this great writer that reminds me so much of Argentina...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“… one January afternoon we had seen a cow contemplating the sunset from the presidential balcony, just imagine, a cow on the balcony of the nation, what an awful thing, what a shitty country, and all sorts of conjectures were made about how it was possible for a cow to get onto a balcony since everybody knew that cows can’t climb stairs, and even less carpeted ones, so in the end we never knew if we had really seen it or whether we had been spending an afternoon on the main square and as we strolled along had dreamed that we had seen a cow on the presidential balcony where nothing had been seen or would ever be seen again for many years until dawn last Friday when the first vultures began to arrive …”[Gabriel García Márquez's 'the Autumn of the Patriarch']
Never mind what it reminds you about, Chicureo. He was referring to all the dictatorships in Latin America. Pinochets Chile included...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(10) Stevie
Apr 18th, 2014 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any Shileno with a heartbeat knows that “Culture” is to the left...
One line of Neruda siffices as proof...
imbecile #2
Apr 18th, 2014 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what can you know about garcía marquez, if you don´t know a sh*t about julio cortázar, for instance?
they along with many other writers, a lot of them argentinians, were part of the same movement of literatura latinoamericana in the 60s.
you, halfwit, like the rest of the typical imbeciles of this site, are fond to read magazines like ihs jane´s defence and not books
#12Really felt threatened did you? Typical of a 15 year old to be afraid of a humorous comment. That afraid of your Chilean friends?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My my...
THINK
I couldn't agree with your more... Neruda remains my hero, despite his unfortunate communist mentality. There have been numerous great poet/writers to the right as well... Let me think... Well, let me try to remember... I'll get back to you when I can recollect some...
Wait! How about Jack Hemingway and John Steinbeck...? Well, sort of...
Oh, all right...
Let me keep thinking about it...
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Apr 18th, 2014 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0eh?
stop smoking that sh*t, you asshole
#14 Calm down dear, your teenage credentials are showing. Go and sulk in the corner.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 013 Chicureo
Apr 18th, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“There have been numerous great writers to the right as well...”
I say...:
Two of my favourites momio writers are Knut Hamsun (ever heard of him?)...
And, horror of horrors......., Argie Jorge Luis Borges....
Paul what books have you read lately. Ah! Viz, the Beano, How to conquer Zits, that sort of thing?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0EL THINK
Apr 18th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never have read Knut Hamsun, can you recommend one of his books to consider?
As far as Jorge Luis Borges, he was required reading at the Grange and my father admired him greatly. It seems Pinochet's admiration caused his loss of the Nobel Prize, which is truly sad... I have an honest question for you, do you have a favorable opinion of Juan Peron?
All joking aside, there are a great number of conservative writers, including Nobel Prize winners, but probably the majority are to the left center.
Garcia Márquez was, by far, the best leftist writer that Latinoamerica has ever produced.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most of the best writers in S.America were actually from the right.
Vargas Llosa, the best living latinamerican writer, is a liberal-minded center-rightist.
dumbass 15- 17
Apr 18th, 2014 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0luckily we have to read a lot of argentinian and latin american literature during high school, so most of us are very fond to continue reading during the adulthood.
guess it is not the same in the islets.
living in a tiny village, isolated from everything, with no colleges, no universities, not even a proper high school, is not the best option when you talk about education.
ricagp
Apr 18th, 2014 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What would you know? You haven't read any of them, much less García Márquez...
It's a fact, Stevie.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's take one: Jorge Luis Borges. The best argentinian writer and one of the most importante in Latam.
He was an almost-fascist supporter of the military dictatorship in Argentina, a terribly racist supremacist who applauded the genocide of indians at Patagonia and afro-argentines in the wars against Paraguay and, by the way, not very enthuastic about Latin America in general and even less about the 'unidad latinoamericana'. He certainly didn't like to see his country of birth put side by side with the likes of Peru or Colombia.
You still haven't read any of the lot...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course I have. And the best are from the right, along with some good leftists whose ideological preferences are not discernible on the text.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure you have... You all have...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, Chicureo
Apr 18th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps you've seen Scorcese's film of Yukio Mishima, who was nominated thrice for the Nobel. He was a nationalist who committed seppuku after an attempted coup d'etat. Also an utterly original writer, and poet, who wrote with exquisite sensitivity. Go figure.
(18) Chicureo
Apr 18th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Difficult to recommend Hamsun to a foreigner… Most translations are simply appalling.
Ever read Neruda in English?... Makes you cry..........… of indignation!
Anyhow, if you insist, “Sult” (Hambre) or “Markens Grøde” (La bendición de la tierra) are, in my humble opinion......................, good.
About Mr. Perón.....
I do indeed have a positive opinion about the two first presidencies of that milico...
Sorry, Paul Shrader's film of Mishima.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul, I'm not in the islets, I live in England and unlike you I have been to the Falkland Islands and South Georgia. We have some excellent Grammar Schools and Universities here and world class concert halls, theatres, and festivals unlike your country. As well as attending the greatest classical music event in the world, the Proms, this year I have attended Celtic Connections and will be doing Primavera Sound, Pitchfork and either Cheltenham or Edinburgh as well as recent back to back plays at Stratford on Avon. Young folk from the Falkland Islands have the opportunity to attend some of these places when they do their fully funded University education in England. Tell me what do you get up to when you aren't on your skateboard?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't that a sleeping pill...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#20
Apr 18th, 2014 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lucila Godoy Alcayaga grew up ...“living in a tiny village, isolated from everything, with no colleges, no universities, not even a proper high school”... She wrote a couple of books and poems using the name Gabriela Mistral... Maybe you've heard of her...
Heisenberg
Mishima is one I've heard of, but unfortunately never read. I'll try to find the movie on Netfix. Thanks
THINK
Read the entry about Hamsun, what a controversial character! Just amazing what he did with his Nobel prize...
And yes, I've read a few partial translations in English, which make ones eyes roll...
Btw, I appreciate individuals who speak their mind, but ALSO strive to be open of others opinions AND appreciate great works, despite their authors political views.
Captain Silver
Apparently, some of the poor souls on this link were never exposed to culture, fine art nor higher education, much less to international travel. ...you should not taunt them so as it might hurt their feelings...
(31) Chicureo
Apr 18th, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Lucila Godoy Alcayaga ... Maybe you've heard of her...”
I say...:
I have....., I have....
She was our neighbor in Rapallo (well..., San Michele di Pagana really) during the fifties....
El mundo es un pañuelo :-)))
I too admit to appreciate great Works, dspite their authors political views. Like Borges. Darn Borges...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the Captain and his preferences, what can I say. Classical music, operas and concerts in general are, in my opinion, sleeping pills.
Has nothing to do with my education, as I do hold a candidate degree.
Has nothing to do with travel either, as I most surely travel a lot more than both our Captain and yourself together. It has little to do with culture too, as I recognize culture all over the world, not only the one unfolded in selected and selective places. As for your fine art, well, some people would say la Gioconda is a “gordito”.
Don't worry Chicureo, none of you hurt my feelings...
;)
Chicureo - lol!
Apr 18th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“as I most surely travel a lot more than both our Captain and yourself together.”
Apr 18th, 2014 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice one! Ha, ha.
Stevie, you travel more than us? And...you are phsychic too! Lol! Bullshit more for sure. When did you last visit South Georgia, with Astiz?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#33
Apr 18th, 2014 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was actually not referring to you but instead to the very educated, read, traveled and premier wine expert... Paulcedron.
It is admirable that you appreciate great works. Even of those who you disagree with. As far as education, perhaps you are so, and as far as to concerts and operas, well that's an acquired gift to appreciate, but I doubt you're more traveled. Age has an advantage, being a Naval cadet has another which alone I would think surpass your travel experience. But since then, I've surpassed a ridiculous number of air miles in naval service, business and pleasure... After all, what does one do with all those airmiles? As far as being an enology expert, I suspect we should tip our hat to Condorito.
THINK
OK, now you've impressed me. My mother met Gabriela Mistral when she was a flight attendant with PANAGRA too many years ago, and I actually sat across the aisle from Isabel Allende on a LAN flight in the 90s, but nothing like your story.
Chicureo
Apr 18th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You mot surely beat me in total travel time, having your age in mind.
But that's not what I claimed. I said I travel more than you. In present form.
What I find weird though, is the fact that “culture” in this case, is regarded as something from past times and from Europe, as if every other part of the world didn't have its own culture...
Myself, I much rather prefer the carnavals with its street parties as culture, ahead of any opera or concert in the world...
Chicureo, lol, Stevie drives a bus, you can't compete with that. And, he is kulchured, but in a different fashion, he rejects the conventional view of art preferring ladies dressed up in bikinis with feathers waggling their arses in the street (figures...). Well I never, what a palarva!
Apr 18th, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#33
Apr 18th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fair enough
See? That's exactly what I mean.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to our “betravelled” Captain, carnaval is “ladies dressed up in bikinis with feathers waggling their arses in the street”...
Stevie, I am obviously so wrong, please explain because that's what it seems like to us?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does it matter if you travel when you don't understand the cultures you come in contact with?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You want me to explain the concept of carnaval for you?
Google it, Captain. I'm sure you would get much more out of it than travelling while being blindfolded...
Captain Silver
Apr 18th, 2014 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Culture is also “...ladies dressed up in bikinis with feathers waggling their arses in the street...”
Just don't tell my wife about my wide range of cultural appreciation...
“What does it matter if you travel when you don't understand the cultures you come in contact with?”
Apr 18th, 2014 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie, tell me all about the cultures you've come in contact with. Har, har.
Stevie, we have carnival here. Notting Hill carnival is huuuge, people come from around the world and peoples of all ethnic groups and different cultures join in. It is some peoples culture, but it doesn't have much depth. If that's all you have got its pretty shallow, I am sure that there is more than that to SA as Marquez proves. And look up Primavera Sound and Pitchfork, they are not what you might think.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Captain
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never been to the Notting Hill carnaval, and I don't know what it is you celebrate or how it mirrors your culture. If I'm lucky, I'll see it one day.
Carnavals around the world are celebrated for different reasons. Some countries carnavals are heritages of the harvest feast, others celebrate their dead.
Many countries inherited the carnaval with immigration and hence the culture with it.
In Uruguay you have the comparsa, a theatrical/musical parade of pure rhythm. It starts with the llamada where the city is awoken to the beats of hands against leather. This happens for three days, out of some 30 the carnaval lasts and it's here you find your lightly dressed ladies.
This part of the [uruguayan] carnaval is a heritage from Africa together with the candombe, the afrouruguayan rhythm.
Then you have the Murgas, different group of masked choirs that sings about the year that has passed in various forms in a competition that not only is musical but also theatrical. This is considered to be the voice of the people as the lyrics most often are social and political.
The origin of the murgas is Spanish, more accurate the Cádiz version of the Spanish carnavals.
Other than that you have quite a few other flavours to the Uruguayan carnaval, like the Reina, the Bailes, the Parodistas and characters as el Escobillero and la Mama Vieja, amongst others.
And this is only the Uruguayan carnaval. I've been to carnavals in some 5 different countries or so and all have their own history, culture and charm.
But in order to appreciate it, you need to take your eyes off the lightly dressed ladies and speak to the locals...
“I've been to carnavals in some 5 different countries or so ”
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now that “never been anywhere Stevie” has been called out on it, after 1,000's of posts showing he's been nowhere, all of a sudden in his posts he wants to talk about what a “traveling man” he is. Har, har.
The problem with leftists is they believe fantasy is a perfectly valid reality.
Therefore, substituting reality with their current fantasy should just work.
When reality interferes with their fantasy, further fantasy will correct it.
Other people have a strong aversion to bullshit.
That is the main reason people form a U while passing you...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(37) Chicureo
Apr 19th, 2014 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“ OK, now you've impressed me. My mother met Gabriela Mistral when she was a flight attendant with PANAGRA...”
I say...:
I thought you were impressed from the beginning by me being Argentinean;-)
By the way... You have impressed me now!
Those Panagra DC6 hostess's were some real hotties...
Think, how was the porridge? Was it piping hot?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie, Notting Hill is an event started by the West Indian community in London. It would be a poor substitute for Literature, Theatre, wide spectum Musical art and visual arts, on offer in our capital city. Its just a minor fragment.
Captain
Apr 19th, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I dont think litterature should be substituted with anything when talking about culture.
But in my personal opinion, I much rather prefer a carnaval than a trip to the opera, a concert of classical music or any remnant of the 18th century (give or take).
I like museums, but those are everywhere, aren't they? Just as I like theatre in all its form. But those are everywhere too. And you can have a big and beautiful theatre, but that wont help your culture if the actors are useless (I know, Spacey is anything but).
As for your visual art, well, that's yet another universal form for culture that is present wherever you go...
Okayyy then.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Stevie says he has no appreciation for Fine Arts, Theatre, Culture, history,
No respect for intellectual expression and achievement.
He is instead, exercising his right to prefer street performance and popular culture.
Of course that has its merits too, but it explains much about Stevie. He seems to be carrying a chip on his shoulder.
No, I did not say that, Troy.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said that I appreciate culture all over the globe, not only selected culture in selected places, Troy.
I also said I don't appreciate operas and classical concerts as I appreciate carnavals, Troy?
Can you read, Troy?
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Apr 19th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0captain sliver
“We have some excellent Grammar Schools and Universities here and world class concert halls, theatres, and festivals unlike your country.”
so, the cultured captain sliver wants to talk about garcía márquez, but he does not even know the existence of borges, cortázar, tomas eloy martínez, etc, who were, by chance, argentinian.
and the poor thing wants to talk about concert halls, theatres, etc but he does not even know the existence of the teatro colón, that is located, by chance, in buenos aires.
it is the 3rd best opera house in the world, after the scala de milán and the teatro di san carlo.
http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/travel/top-10/opera-houses/
probably the cultured captain thinks that a barrack in puerto stanley is the best place for opera.
and a piece of advice, if you want to read garcía márquez properly, you first need to learn spanish.
seems too much for an ignorant monoglot like you.
These writers are really special, not heard of outside of Latin America or perhaps they cannot speak Gods language ENGLISH. Why don't they GOOGLE translate?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahahaha golfcronie!!!!
Apr 19th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right on mate! Spread that ignorance!
Blame it on the rest of the world....
Hahahahahaha!!!!
THINK
Apr 19th, 2014 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those Panagra DC6 hostess's were some real hotties...
(my father thought so)
As far as opera houses go, Argentina certainly has a beautiful building, but it unfortunately does not have the programs as it once did.
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Apr 19th, 2014 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why do you talk when you know nothing about the subject?
there are concerts of ira levin, martha argerich and daniel barenboim together, etc.
martha argerich, argentinian by the way, is considered one of the best 10 pianist of the world, and barenboim (also argentinian) is one of the best directors and pianists.
http://www.teatrocolon.org.ar/es/abono-estelar/martha-argerich-a-daniel-barenboim-duo-de-pianos
58. I joke with my Rg friends that BA is where Musicians go when their career has been over for at least a decade.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yankeeboy,
Apr 19th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some what true, and I would say the Santiago opera house is for those artists two decades later. Google the opera schedules of other houses and you'll understand that South America lost its luster 50 plus years ago.
Unfortunately Santiago is still restoring its opera house after a terrible fire which is also a jewel, but nothing close to BA.
Personally, I'm not a huge opera fan, but my wife is.
I think it has something to do with the lack of interest from the public...
Apr 19th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And in a friendly spirit on this special weekend... is truly sad because I love a wide range of art and culture. Whether it may be the queen of the Samba in Salvador, or the prima ballerina in St. Petersburg. I've taken my children to see Cats, Sting and Lord of the Dance as well as a boring Chilean rodeo. All culture and all equally special for expanding one's short expansion of knowledge on this planet. Our time to enjoy this life is short. I know this too well. A Tango dance in the street, an opportunity to listen to Sting live, that's what life is all about. Whether, you are an atheist, a Christian or Jew, feven a follower of, Mohammed, I wish you peace, happiness and joy this special season.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even a kiss to CFK... My goodness me...
62. That's exactly what is strange about it. When I lived in BA the Rgs got so excited about all of these bands from 30 yrs ago coming to play.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 061. Artists can't make the $ like the can in EU UK USA that's why they leave off South America from tours.
I went to only 1 musical on Corrientes and the group I went with said “just like they do it in NYC”. I giggled. The productions are more like school plays.
yanqui
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your problem is that you think in $ and are of the idea that in order for music to be good, it has to pass USA and Europe.
And there you are, enjoying Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga.
By the way, Paul McCartney is coming to Uruguay for the second time in short time. Uruguayans loved him first time around and it seems he loved Uruguay too.
Regardless if he's been around for ages, his music is great and the man knows how to offer a show.
But in your use-and-throw mentality, these are sensations you will never understand.
Stevie, Go away. You are too stupid to talk to.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul, I have lunched in that nice old bar near the BA Opera and watched the Indian Cartoneros at work opposite. The Opera was closed for renovations at the time. I don't go to Operas. You must be phsycic on my language abilities. OK on German and French but no ability in minor languages like yours. I doubt that 0.1% of English people have any knowledge of Argentinean artists. I was at a Barenboim concert last year. Apart from the occasional aggression Argentina is not on our radar. In contrast to Britain it doesn't contribute anything to the world at large and despite its size and potential riches it is practically invisible. It is recognised for the Tango and corned beef though.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now now children, can we at least agree that going to a Sir Paul concert is truly a privilege...?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, consider what it would really like to be if we still had the Romans in charge: Kim K being fed to the lions, Lady G.G. being burned at the stake and Justin B. being used for piraña food... What fun entertainment would really be...
Alas, we will instead be subjected to CFK being stripped to her knickers...
I couldn't imagine having to suffer through a McCartney concert. I seriously thought he was dead.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's too old to be performing live.
I did look at his concert schedule, sheesh it's like a death march through the obscure and forgotten. Pittsburgh, SLC, Albany... that's really sad and pretty embarrassing for someone that used to be so famous. What's next playing piano bars in Miami? Is he broke?
Captain
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.redlinels.com/2014/01/10/most-widely-spoken-languages/
“Speakers of English may be tempted to think that their language is the global leader. But while English is certainly a cultural force, its native speakers number “only” 335 million worldwide—about 5% of the world’s population.”
So much for your “minor” language.
Of course you can come up with lists on how many people speaks English, and hence come up with “proof” that English is the most spoken language in the World, which it still isn't as Chinese, or mandarin to be precise, is spoken by even more people. But this would include me as an English speaking person and although I am indeed, Spanish is still my main and most used language.
Furthermore, the reason for this, is your monolingualism, has nothing to do with anybody else...
My first language is a poor imitation of Spanish (Chilean)
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Second to anything else is English. ( can't complain as it made me financially comfortable.
With those two I can travel and communicate anywhere except Brazil and France.
As I love to eat, I have a “varnish” of French and and very elementary understanding of Portuguese... German was force fed down my throat in my secondary school which still has me traumatized.
Italian and Catalan is only due to travel and desire to eat well...
Anyone in the world that wants to do business must speak English. I've traveled to 30+ countries and never had a problem communicating.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You could speak 15 languages, yanqui. You would still make no sense...
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 067
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0corned beef?
and you eat that thing?
it´s considered dog´s food here.
and you are “ok” in german and french...
yeah, right...
taking in account your cultural level in general, you probably know how to say nein and oui.
that is “ok” for you
No, you're wrong. Outside of France, English is the language of communication.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Saying that, Español is essential ...
English - the language of the sea, and the air. And, the language of business worldwide. The language of music. Go anywhere ( including China) and its spoken.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And, in Chile its now one of two official languages and all children learn it.
Argentina is excellent at the Tango, and as you say producing dog food, and barmy failed politicians, not forgetting dictators.
You are still monoligual.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your loss...
Sir Paul still loves performing as do so many of our ageing English rock stars. The Stones are still amazing live, Sting is OK except for his jokes about his castle. We are getting Dolly at Glasto, she is still amazing. As someone said to me in Santiago recently “English music, the best in the world”. Looking forward to Optimus Primavera in Porto and Pitchfork in Chicago in the summer. Few of our stars make it to SA although there is always clamour to do so. RGs have to make do with Yankee Daddy etc.. They should reform artists like their bills to be paid.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Being “monoligual” has it's disadvantages.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But being a liar, nothing lower than that.
And you are both...
Apr 19th, 2014 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does that make you a low-life with disadvantage?
Two wrongs to make a right?
A double negative?
?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry about it...
Apr 19th, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it odd that so many of the lesser intelligent posters on this board seem to think knowing words in multiple languages is somehow better than being able to critically think.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0My maid knows 4 languages, what has that done for her, so what if she can clean my toilet in 4 languages?
Whoopee!
Its a silly argument which means they have nothing left to add to the conversation.
Yankeeboy,
Apr 20th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First, this is an English site covering South America. Knowledge in other languages can be helpful in bringing forth insight to news stories, but in general it is not necessary.
The real problem is posters that claim to be polyglots , but indeed they're only prevaricators instead.
Many contributors here have the ability to communicate in two languages or more. It obviously does not mean that they are intelligent.
Look at you yanqui, one language and you can't even wipe your own arse...
Apr 20th, 2014 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nuff said...
Unless you are a translator, some sort of service person or diplomat I can't see the benefit of knowing any other language than English.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even when I lived in SA I spoke mostly English because my friends wanted to practice with me and my main maid's kid went to the British School so she wanted to speak English too.
The only people I ever came in contact with that spoke only Spanish were the very very low class uneducated people, poteros, the gardeners, pool guy etc. and that would be the same as here in the USA.
so, for the standard geniuses of this site, speaking 2 or more languages does not mean anything at all.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Howard Gardner’s multiple intelligences theory (MIT) (1983, 1999)
The verbal-linguistic intelligence
“Good second language speakers are often considered to be talented people with special verbal abilities who possess more than one code to understand and acquire knowledge in order to use it in new situations”
probably the geniuses of this site have not even finished high school, but they don´t agree with scientists and researchers that spent +/- 20 years studying the subject.
weird.
and funny
“Maid”... Is that what you call the employee in the retirement home?
Apr 20th, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your children dumping you there, it makes sense you are upset with the world...
You have no respect for decent working people, yanqui. It matters little how much cash you got, you ca never buy decency. And by the way, I earn more than you.
;)
Paul, Learning languages is like learning to paint, sculpt etc. It is fun but I don't see how it does anything for you in the long run.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you come from a place where the primary language is something other than English it is essential to learn another language. When you grow up knowing the world's language of business there just isn't a pressing need to learn something else.
It could be a fun hobby though.
It is fun to order in French and knowing Spanish does help me when I have to tell my maid she's doing something wrong. Other than that for me it is useless and easily forgotten.
Employees in retirement homes are still not called maids...
Apr 20th, 2014 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For me, English is only useful to chitchat with you guys, I have no clue what you are talking about yanqui...
Never have I used English other than when dealing with someone who isn't local. The language of technology in my domain is German, not English. And everybody seems to speak the local language [of the day].
Nah, I could've had better use of Chinese, as it's a language that is in pure rise and I seem t come in contact with people from China more and more often...
You are talking bollocks.
“Paul, Learning languages is like learning to paint, sculpt etc. It is fun but I don't see how it does anything for you in the long run. ”
Apr 20th, 2014 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one, even in the US, can make a serious career in an university without learning 3 or 4 languages.
90 stevie
Apr 20th, 2014 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0exactly.
more and more people in the world try to learn chinese and spanish since they are the 2 most spoken languages.
in latin america it is almost mandatory to learn portuguese.
whether you want to do business with them or travel around those countries, you need to comprehend their codes.
it seems they cannot understand it, but who cares?
Paulie,
Apr 20th, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great, Stevie can spew his total bullshit lies in 7 different languages. He definitely comes off as a really intelligient guy to everybody. You're right.
“And by the way, I earn more than you.” Oh, OK, I'm sure you do! Ha, ha.
Stevie
Apr 20th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“And by the way, I earn more than you.”
That sounds like something “A_Voice” would say.
Always talking about yourself - always telling others you are better than them.
Are you two, “related ”??
I wouldn't know, I only know him as A_Voice.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Troy, being better than you lot is no achievement.
It's a requirement to call oneself decent...
Stevie,
Apr 20th, 2014 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You lie often on these posts, you're not decent.
The fact that you lot don't believe me is not the same as me lying.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your issue. Not mine.
91. At what are the 3 or 4 languages people in the USA MUST learn? We MUST know English everything else is ancillary.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0German as the “technology” language, maybe in Scandinavia since nobody speaks those languages. Duh, If you speak Icelandic you better know something else when you travel.
Spanish, to start with, yanqui.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Else you'll be a minority soon...
http://www.languagepolicy.net/archives/Castro1.htm
I know enough spanish to get along, clean this clean that. I can't help that the stupid LA waiters can't figure out that a lemon is yellow and not green.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0German sheesh its basically a regional dialect like Catalan. The only people who know German are Germans and most of them prefer to speak English if they have the choice.
Germans prefer to speak German, trust me. Or don't. It matters little.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You live in your bubble, yanqui. You are probably too old so you'll be fine no matter what.
As I said. Your loss.
101. Stevie, I think you are like the crazy guy on the corner that people cross the road to avoid.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am at least generation from being able to collect my retirement.
So try again
dimwit.
guess it is related with their social economic extraction, so you can see many americans, aussies and brits speaking pretty fluent spanish here during the triple corona for instance.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0of course it is not the case of the standard tw@ts of this site, but anyway...
I'm fully aware the retirement payment is going to be a major issue in the future.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And sincerely, I can't wait for it to happen. With all that it implies...
;)
103. You must mean they were of lower “social economic extraction” (whatever that means)?
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lemon, que Limon? Lemon...ACK the yellow one! Yellow!
ugh
I don't mind immigration but they need to learn basic English BEFORE they cross the border.
They don't.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
Don't worry about me Stevie my retirement account was set at birth (actually a bit before).
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Luckily I don't have to rely on the gubmint for a check although I do pay in an awful lot.
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Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lower class americans, britons and ozzies in the triple corona?
lol.
they are ugly, kitsch and boozy, but not poor, certainly.
Are you talking the Triple Crown in the USA or Argentina? I can't imagine any of the horse owners that traveled from the USA were speaking Spanish in either of those locations.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You must have lost your marbles.
Even at The Jockey Club in San Isidro people preferred to speak English to me.
That's because you ooze monolingualism.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like Piero said, “y nadie se da cuenta que son Americanos...”
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Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol yankeeboy
you are funny
That may be so. I didn't ask them to speak English though. It must be tough for both of you since I've actually lived in SA and can smell you lies from 15 hrs away by plane.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW Paul on the other thread the have electricity and running water in the Falklands. You get a hr hour by boat in Tigre and you'll be very very lucky to have running water or electricity. I hate to break it to you but The Falklands are way richer than the TIgre delta.
So you moved to SA without learning Spanish before doing so.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And now you say Latin Americans should learn English before moving to USA...
yanqui in a nutshell.
113. I didn't go there to work!
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Big difference
retard
Live as I say and not as I do?
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yankeeboy
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I can't imagine any of the horse owners that traveled from the USA were speaking Spanish in either of those locations.”
what?
horse owners that traveled from the u.s.?
lol
the owners of the best polo ponies in the world are argentinian, the best polo ponies in the world are argentinian, and they are not for sale.
americans only can buy 2nd rate horses.
2nd rate for argentinian standards, 1st rate for the rest of the world.
and of course those buyers can speak some spanish at least, not like the dimwits here.
Do you understand anything you post?
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is EXACTLY the opposite of what I was saying.
I wouldn't expect or care if some rich Immigrant came here to live without learning English BUT (NOTICE THE BUT RETARD) if they need to work they should know the language before they annoy everyone.
You are such a retard
You are closer to being a nobody rather than being everyone, yanqui. I don't think you should worry too much about what other people choose to do.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't speak Cherokee nor Apache...
Yes Paul Argentinians have good horses.
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does that make you feel like less of a loser?
You also used to have good beef, a decent society, minimal crime, alas that is done and won't return in your lifetime.
Yankeeboy
Apr 21st, 2014 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ignore these idiots - they're a waste of time.
Stevie knows he is caught lying, but he's just being a sh!t to lead you on.
Paul is too stoopid to know what he is talking about, but he is blinded by his own ignorance.
120
Apr 21st, 2014 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0and what can you know about latin american literature, polyglotism, polo, polo ponies, etc etc etc.
nothing?
then shut it.
“...then shut it”
Apr 21st, 2014 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL, Pablo you twit!!
What the f@ck do you know about anything.
Very noble and very patriotically loyal of you.
However, you have no perspective of your place in the world.
I'm sure it's very reassuring to believe what your peers say, you are the most wonderful and the best.
Your society has much that was elegant and special in the New World, but frick'n grow up - you are NOT God's gift to Mankind and you're too sheltered to know that.
What lie would that be, Troy?
Apr 21st, 2014 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0122
Apr 21st, 2014 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0topics of this thread:
latin american literature / garcía márquez: you don't even know he was a writer.
polylingualism: you are a clear example of the contrary.
polo / polo horses: have you ever in your life seen a horse? you dont have those four legged animals in the islets? you just have sheep and penguins?
then, keep it shut, grandpa.
123 Stevie
Apr 21st, 2014 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm echoing Bushpilot @96
“Stevie,
You lie often on these posts, you're not decent.”
- a common refrain on these threads.
Pablo,
You're a naive fool, and not worth responding to.
You lot all echo eachother, in a never ending cacaphony. Nothing new in that.
Apr 21st, 2014 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0But what lie did I tell, you say?
I think we're even, Stevie, I'm sure there are many I missed.
Apr 21st, 2014 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quite sure.
Well over 80% of the postings on this thread are off-topic and just general chit-chat.
Apr 21st, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is not what Mercopress's Comments section is for.
If you want to chat, then text, tweet or phone a friend - just don't do it here.
And on THIS topic,
if you agree/disagree with Insulza: “García Márquez Raised Latin American Literature to Global Heights”, then contribute.
I consider him to be a literary great, who helped me to understand the 'South American psyche' and ways of life, when I emigrated to Brasil.
124 Pablo
Apr 21st, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ ...you dont have those four legged animals in the islets? you just have sheep and penguins?”
um, sheep ARE four- legged, btw.
troy
Apr 21st, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ not worth responding to.”
and why don't you put it in practice?
you, boring bore.
Based on the questions Argentina just lost the 1st of 2 cases at SCOTUS.
Apr 21st, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am happy.
you boring sheep
Apr 21st, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's not forget that in addition to being a talented writer, he was
Apr 21st, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a f. comunazi (RIP).
Philippe
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