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Cristina Fernandez preparing for the day after October 2015 elections
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez faithful participated on Sunday in a major political rally to celebrate the eleventh anniversary of Nestor Kirchner's victory in the 27 April 2003 elections, but also to indicate how the incumbent Victory Front will be acting ahead of, and after the October 2015 presidential election, to ensure the Kirchner political legacy. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesOh yes the K legacy. This country is going to hell in a hand basket...carried by cfk. And the gathering of the faithful is chaired by one of the biggest crooks in the country.
Apr 28th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 - completely agree. I hope the crooks are arrested and their finances investigated. Cristina shod spend the rest of her life with her cronies in an Argentine prison unless she:
Apr 28th, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A) gives back all the money stolen from the public coffers
B) brings in the right support with the relevant competency to manage the Argentine economy.
Argentina you need and deserve better than this. I hope she goes sooner than later and most importantly you elect a government than wants to engage with the world and especially the UK and FI as equals as we will only support you in achieving prosperity once again.
Pain in the arsenal is right,and in the wallet.
Apr 28th, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“According to Argentine political analysts the Cristina Fernandez strategy is for the Victory Front to have a strong representation in the next Congress, which is achievable and can help the Kirchner legacy, but equally important keep her and her closes advisors far away from the courts and the corruption charges.”
Apr 28th, 2014 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There you go. Corruption charges. K and her cronies don't want to spend the last years of their miserable lives in prison. K is probably due the most. 20 years seems about right. For all his threats, Timmerman should be up for 15 years. Probably best if the lot get at least 5 years each.
I'm thinking that CFK is a very entertaining individual and maybe it'd be good if her people could figure out a way for her to run again.
Apr 28th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As well, her administration is a shining example to the rest of the world of how superior the “inclusion” economic and political model is by far to any other system practiced currently by other nations.
It really would be a huge benefit to the global community to be able to continue to observe Kirchnerism. There are many, many aspects of “the Kirchnerist Way” that are solid lessons on how to best run a country.
THE LEGACY OF KIRCHNERISM.
Apr 28th, 2014 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The government always compares the actual situation, with the one of 2003, which is a very captious comparison, because it's obvious that any year of this decade will always be better than 2003, that year was a total disaster, in fact, the crisis of 2001, and it's posterior consecuences were the result of a a neoliberal economic model, implemented by the militar dictatorship. In that moment started the true decline of the welfare state. Unfortunately a great man like president raul alfonsin couldn't do so much to dismantle the legacy of the dictatorship in economic terms, because his priority was to set up the bases of a democratic country, beside, local and international conditions of 1983, were a disaster.
In my opinion i think that the government should analize whether the actual situation is much better or not than the one of the decade of the 90's. What menem did in all his long and horrible decade, was to complete the legacy of the dictatorship, that's why he was a hard neoliberal, however, people reelected him in 1995, because he could finish with inflation, even despite the high levels of unemployment that his economic programme provoked. It's well known that in social terms, there is nothing more dramatic than being unemployed. However most people thought that in the same way that he finished with inflation, he would finish with unemployment too, however the rate continued to increase, but when people realized of it, it was already too late.
Nowadays, despite all the serious problems that we still have, like insecurity, poverty, indigence, inflation, institutional violence etc, and despite the serious falencies of c. f.k's government, we are returning to the previous state to 1975, that's why neoliberals hate kirchnerism, because the conditions of most workers improved so much, in comparison to the one of the decade of the 90's.
Whoever wins next year, will rull a much better country, than the one of that decade.
Alex,
Apr 28th, 2014 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An elected government is really just a mirror reflection of “the people”. Politicians who reflect “the people's” current mentality and thinking get elected into office. They have to cater to the current prevailing collective mindset or they do not become a government.
So, Alex, it's about “the people”, not the government. If the bulk of a people believe in freeloading, and stealing, and they believe in the power of lying, their government will be a reflection of this. That causes big problems.
When the bulk of the people believe in putting in an honest, hard day's work, like the natural world requires, they have less problems. Their government is much less inclined to cater to people who contribute nothing, which in turn maximizes the net gain for all “the people”.
The current administration in the U.S. reflects the mentality shift of Americans from one that believed in hard work to one that believes that money should be acquired easily. It is a good example of the above explanation.
“Inclusion” economics is more for freeloaders than it is for people who need a temporary helping hand.
Addressing the estimated 15.000 militants in closing the rally, at a closed auditorium, Zannini said.
Apr 28th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure it smelt good in that stadium. 15,000 toothless rodents and Zannini spewing crap out of his mouth.
I have to wonder if when CFK leaves office, she stays in Arg, or retires to an “off shore tax haven” with little or no extradition arrangements with the rest of the world.
Apr 28th, 2014 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like, the Ecuadorian embassy in London for example.
It would be too dangerous to live in Argentina, she must have pissed many people off, apart from robbing Argentina blind ( Allegedly )
Apr 28th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They won't want to bother poor CFK, she is a woman. After her?
Apr 28th, 2014 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timmerman will probably leave quickly. Kicilloff too.
axel
Apr 28th, 2014 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK is going to hand over a country FAR but FAR FAR more worse than Menem handed to DLS in late 1999 whenever she goes.
She will hand over a country worse than she recieved in 2007
She will hand over a country worse in socio-economical outlook than in December 2001 .
You guys can even bankrupt Saudi Arabia if you could govern it.
But she was worth it!
Apr 28th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, ha, ha.
Anyway, is it just a bad photo but doesn’t Zannini (TMBOA “closest adviser”) look like he could be Prattus Maximus’ father?
Perhaps TMBOA was getting her own back for the Bug-eyed one shagging his secretary (and others apparently) all those years!
Just astounds me how dumb people can be to believe the sh*t these crooks are saying.
Apr 28th, 2014 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But then again it is all the lazy welfare recipients and bums they pay to attend these events with our tax.
Not all of them there is a large portion of middle class idiots and lefties that choose to believe in all the lies.
Apr 28th, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have axel here who is a teacher (paid by all of us) knows english,etc and you would assume he is educated enough to know better but no....He is just looking for excusses and talking about “neoliberalism”, Menem and the 90s the military dictatorship, as if it enables CFK to deliver a country whith hyperinflation, record poverty, crime, institutional collapse, wideranged corruption, incomes 900Bn USD in over 10 years of soybean exports mainly all gone, energetic dependency of abroad, narcowars, and the lists goes on.
Its going to be 11 years since this guys are in power!!!
I think however the base is economical ignorance, a lot of people dont support the government anymore but still believe in the economical model should be mantained and they dont realize it is fictional and over.
6 Axel
Apr 29th, 2014 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You make a good point about the neoliberalism starting during the “process” and being continued by Menem. Previous to 1975 we had no external debt (well we owed pennies back then) and of course, the huge debt we inherited in '83 was the legacy of the Chicago boys doctrine and our own generals corruption.
That is a shame. A terrible thing imposed upon us because as far as I can remember no common citizen had a say, unless of course you belonged to some of the groups that benefited from cheap international credit backed by the state.
That said. How does that make Cristina and her herd of criminals something to be thankful for?
I'm not a neo-liberal, but if you are able to add 2 + 2, you'd hate them too.
Face it. Peronism ended on July 1st. 1974. It will be 40 years soon. Are you still defending ideas that might had some sense in the early '50s? Do you still think that buying mail boxes and tramways is good business? What about snake oil?
CABEZA DURA: I'll just tellyou that neather you, nor any other backward like you pays me nothing, because i work at a private institution, beside, respecting my lecture, i won't keep on wasting my time with peple like you, the day you learn to give arguments, intead of insults, i'll answer you again all you want, i don't tolerate reactionary people like you.
May 02nd, 2014 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BUSHPILLOT-TARQUIN FIN: I respect your opinions, but i think that the reasons why people vote they way they do it, has different factors. As far as i'm concerned, i have never ignored the fact that there are denounces of corruption cases that involve c. f. k's government, in fact, i am not a defender neather of c. f. k's moral authority, nor any other functionary's, if justice finally determines that the president, or any other member of her caninet committed a corruption delit, i won't be there to defend what is unjustifiable. If i voted her in 2011, and if i have supported her government since 2010, is because according to my ideologies, despite the falencies of her administration, she made all she could in order to dismantle an unfair sistem, which provoked high leves of social exclution.
All she did was to dismantle a signifficant part of the neoliberal sistem implemented during the militar dictatorship, in fact, since she took office, the state could recover many of the enterpices that had been sold during the long years of neoliberalism, thats' why neoliberals hate her.
Anyway, i am not saying that arg. is norway or finland, i just say that despite all the serious problems that we still have, the social situation started improving since 2003, in fact, if arg. improved it's social situation just a little, or if nowadays it was even worse than what it was before 2003, like some people who hate kirchnerism often say, then after 11 years of kirchnerist government, we should have a signifficant exodus of argentines who leave the country, looking for a better future, as it used to happen for may years.
@ 17 axel arg
May 02nd, 2014 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“we should have a signifficant (SIC) exodus of argentines who leave the country, looking for a better future, as it used to happen for may (SIC) years.
Well, you DO have a significant exodus and most of them are coming to Uruguay.
The MAJORITY of residency applications in Uruguay, over 50% presently, are Argentine families and I see them all the time.
Perhaps it’s TMBOA plan to assimilate Uruguay “back” as a province!
Yeah, like that will work.
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