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Labor Day with raft of increases in Argentina: train fares, gasoline, cigarettes and air tickets

Friday, May 2nd 2014 - 08:37 UTC
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Despite Labor Day to honor workers, May begins with bad news for Argentine consumers: fare increases for trains and domestic flights tickets and rises on cigarettes and gasoline prices ranging from 4% to 100% in the case of train tariffs. Read full article

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  • Conqueror

    Hello, argieland. CFK can't see a way out. Is she going to pay off your debts? Or is she going to steal more millions for her “retirement”? The world needs a new law. So that she has no hiding place. Take her. Take her money. Put her in an 8ft x 8ft cell. Throw away the key!

    May 02nd, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Yeah and inflation is 2.7%/mo. sure it is.
    I wonder how much the avg Rg likes that the gov't controls YPF now and has more than doubled gas prices since they took over.
    Seems like the only people doing well are the La Campora people running the very companies causing harm to the population.
    I wonder how long that will last.
    Filthy scumbags need to be in jail or hanging from a lamp post.

    May 02nd, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    2

    I would like to agree with you but no, amazingly they do still believe seizing YPF was a good idea even though they disagree with the way they did it, as if by more educated manners when seizing a private company would have spared the country of compensation. (?)

    The problem with most of the people Ks and none Ks is that they still believe fervently in huge Statist monopolies running what they regard as key pillars of the economy. Just like Aerolineas, people simply preffer to think that they can take La Campora out and Recalde and that it will be all peaches and cream. They still have a mind and a view of things that is blocked in the 1940s and 1930s.

    In other forums like this and in my own day to day discussions I have being trying to explain this. They just dont get it.

    May 02nd, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    CD, You need to get out of there. When the next gov't takes over and tries to extricate La Campora Ks from their control of the economy it is going to get really ugly and very violent, they will bring the country to its knees trying to keep their control.
    It will be worse than what's currently going on in Venezuela.

    May 02nd, 2014 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    The government lies on a permanent basis. CFK claims to be a lawyer but a reporter from MDZol says his investigation proves otherwise. http://www.mdzol.com/opinion/530918-los-elementos-que-muestran-que-cfk-no-es-abogada/

    May 02nd, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    5. Doesn't she claim she made her fortune in law...sure she did.

    May 02nd, 2014 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    4

    But you must think im just another Mexican that has all his family in the US already and no property nor loved ones at home. Its quite more complicated for me than you think.

    Yes there will be a fierce power strugle beneth the scenes.

    May 02nd, 2014 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    It's not easy and frankly most don't make it here. It is hard to live in the USA. We work a lot but get a lot in return.
    I'd never live outside of the USA again.

    May 02nd, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Keith York

    I also hear that the Electric and gas subsidy will be axed. Long Winter ahead.

    May 02nd, 2014 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    I know, I also believe that the US is a great country.

    On one side things are expected of me here, but on the other I do get very demotivated and disencourage with the prospects of things and the idiosyncrasy of the ppl.

    Perhaps I will be better off in Chile or Paraguay somewhere close by where I can keep an eye on things

    May 02nd, 2014 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Yes, when we finally get rid of the K's the next govt is going to have a hell of a job on their hands.
    Total disaster with sorting out the finances due to the corruption and destruction of evidence.

    A large part of the population who don't want to work and just want hand outs.
    Unions having a grip on everything and no one can do anything without protests in the street.
    No one willing to invest or start companies here.
    Just to name a few

    May 02nd, 2014 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    She is betting strongly on assuring 290 rubbish judges (fresh out of uni) for the absence period.

    Its going to be very messy indeed

    http://www.jorgeasisdigital.com/2014/04/30/meter-mano-en-la-justicia/

    The opposition UNEN and Socialists are offering more of the same, a more human, well mannered, less corrupt and educated version of the Ks model. At least to the electorate they are saying to them what they want to hear. I dont think that proffesional economists like Lusteau and Pratt Gay dont realize what the real problem is, the problem is all the social democrats and socialists that believe in massive state spending . A huge state that is inefficient, massive subsidies and bums in government offices.

    http://www.jorgeasisdigital.com/2014/04/30/meter-mano-en-la-justicia/

    I highly recomend these comments are very good about the social democrats and UNEN .

    May 02nd, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I read that the Arg gov't has hired over 2MM, yes 2MM, 5% of the population, to make the unemployment number lower over the last 5 years!!!
    That is an incredible drain on production.
    The next gov't will have to lay off them and more.
    It is so sad when nobody cares and lets the gov't get away with anything they want.
    This will take a generation to fix.

    May 02nd, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendocinovino

    just one?

    May 03rd, 2014 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • *~TROLLING_CEASE_FIRE~*

    @8

    Get a lot in return? Really, most Americans die and have not enjoyed life at all. I have no problem if you are a society that lives to work, but don't judge other societies that want to work just to live.

    http://news.yahoo.com/nineteen-hurt-york-subway-derailment-005318180--finance.html

    More derailments this year in the USA than in Argentina.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendocinovino

    Argentina=37000Km of rail coverage. 43,000,000 population
    USA=225,000 Km. 317,000,000

    Not a fair comparison. considering a huge amount of the Argentine system has been abandoned so it is a lot less than these official figures.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Chilean perspective

    5 Mendoza Canadian
    Great link pal. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I wonder if Lanata will have something on it.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @5 & 17

    It's not so surprising that Cristina isn't actually a lawyer, or even that she'd lie about it. It just amazes me that she's been able to get away with such an easily refutable lie for so long.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    She didn't really get away with it. It has been common knowledge for some time but her devoted followers don't really care.

    CFK dropped out of Uni. and her son did the same. Too challenging for them.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @19 Elaine

    Point taken. To clarify, my definition of her getting away with it means she's still the President. My definition of not getting away with it would be a humiliating press conference ( which she would never consent to ) and/or a phalanx of reporters, cameras and flashes witnessing her fall from grace.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    20

    Well to be fair Cristina is not president because she has a degree, she is president because her hubby appointed her as the candidate.

    There is lawmakers of La Campora like Larroque who haven't even got a highschool degree

    May 03rd, 2014 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @21 CD2

    True. I'm just looking at it from the perspective of what would happen if one of my own political leaders told such an outrageous lie. The credibility loss would be politically fatal.

    Incidentally, Australia's 24th Prime Minister ( Paul Keating ) never studied at University, but he was a brilliant treasurer before he became P.M. and did more than anyone else to open up the Australian economy.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I have spoken with some K supporters about this and their general response was that everyone in Argentine politics lies so it doesn't matter.

    I suppose most politicians edit the truth or spin the truth but she lied about her qualification and practised as a lawyer. That surely breaks the law in Argentina which is a whole other thing.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    22

    With all the billions she has stolen and all the damage she has done then I guess it doesnt matter anymore for me that detail. I guess that if you have a much better options from to choose from and none corrupt then you can be far more picky as to their CV's. Although I dont trust to much academics and snobish backround people either. Much less lawyers !! LOL.

    Besides of extremely corrupt she is a very sick, evil and mean intended woman.

    I cant wait to see her leave even if this means she takes the whole economy down with her.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Heisenbergcontext

    @24 CD2

    I take your point - it's all relative. It's her sheer shamelessness I find so hard to fathom.

    We have had a few high-profile corruption scandals recently in this part of the world. Heads have been rolling. It's been entertaining to see some of the accused squirming on the witness stand. If I were in your country, I would pay good money to see Cristina suffer the same.

    May 03rd, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    CFK is sociopathic with strong narcissistic traits. It explains her behaviour. Lying is compulsive for her. What she lacks is any real intelligence which is why she is inept but not really dangerous.

    May 04th, 2014 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    #23 Yes that is the problem...Argentines just don't seem to care that they are being lied to. Something wrong with that picture.

    May 04th, 2014 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    @27

    I'm not sure, I rather think Argentines preffer to live in a lie and in wishfull thinking.
    A lot of people remind me of the film Matrix where all the people live in an ilusion and a parallel reality while the machines are harvesting their energy and they don't even notice it.

    Now a lot of people believe Vaca Muerta is going to be the saviour of the country and they can live off that.

    Others will just vote peronist no matter what because even if inflation erodes social plans and Child Care assistance to only cover 40% of the official INDEC Basic basquet of food and 11% of the real CBA, they will keep on voting them because they believe that someone else in gov't will take it away from them

    I also think that accending 16 tems to the first division and make up the championship of 36 teams will classify Argentina definatly as the most populist country in the world.

    May 04th, 2014 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    28. I've long thought that many Argentinians are delusional. I think that is why they have such a hard time in other countries or even debating on this forum.
    You look at people like Think, Axel, Marcos, Voice, you know the types I am talking about, you can post links with undeniable facts and figures to prove that they are wrong, not just a little wrong but really really wrong and they just go on and on with their propaganda like the crazy guy on the corner that everyone crosses the street to ignore.
    It is really weird.
    I also think that is why your leadership more often than not is ridiculed and ignored when they are on the world stage.
    Its kinda funny if you don't live there.

    May 04th, 2014 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Tweet from CFK today:

    “Por lo menos a mí como Presidenta me ha sido de muchísima utilidad, como militante también y como ser humano.”

    “At least to me as President I was extremely useful, as too militant and a human being.”

    Chuckle ! :-)

    May 07th, 2014 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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