A UN committee on torture grilled on Monday the Vatican on the Catholic Church's child sexual abuse crisis, urging a permanent investigation system to end a climate of impunity prevailing for decades. Read full article
In any case, the Catholic Church shouldn't be seeing a decline in cases of sexual abuse but an absolute end to it once and for all. A decline means it's still happening.
If Pope Francis wants to get the church back on track he should throw the Vatican doors open to the police and cut this rot out at its core.
@ 3 GeoffWard2
“I feel sure that this UN committee has more than enough to do without extending torture to include buggery.”
I personally know two mature men who as young boys were buggered by the same “priest”. They still carry GUILT to this day and are indeed tortured souls. No amount of psychiatric help has managed to convince them that they were not to blame. I know that to you and me that sounds incredible, but that it is how it is.
I did like this approach:
“Satyabhoosun Gupt Domah of Mauritius, asked if the Holy See was taking steps to eliminate the “chemistry that creates the conditions” for sexual abuse of children by priests.”
Perhaps he thought as I do that anything less than making them into true eunuchs is letting them off the hook. Without the gear they can’t start any malarkey.
Yes, Chric, castration would really be 'cutting the rot out at the core' (#2). I remember it being banned in '59 and, especially nowadays, it would be a Human Rights issue.
If all buggering, rapist and paedophile priests were castrated, and the liturgical castrati moved to Vatican City, the population would increase by an unmanagable 50-fold (estim.).
Still, the Vatican Choir would have a great captive treble section.
Hi, Chris. It's a horrible topic; we manage it with black humour.
Abused children have different 'rights' in different countries.
Usually their only right in (Western) law is to be told that their abuser is going to be punished - by prison, at the most.
I would say that I do not subscribe to the solutions meted out by Christians in Christian African countries to homosexuals in their midst,
but I could well understand the families of children historically sexually abused by Catholic priests taking matters into their own hands and quietly killing the perpetrators.
It is common practice in many Islamic (etc) states where young people in love run away from the situation and are hunted down and killed by their own families - the so called 'shame killings'.
Different strokes for different folks (see what I did there ;)
Contemporary Western society does not condone personal acts of vengeance,
and 'our' society treats very lightly all buggering, rapist and paedophile priests.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNot before time I hasten to add. In fact all faiths ought to clear the decks.
May 06th, 2014 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1
May 06th, 2014 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't tar everyone with the Vatican brush.
In any case, the Catholic Church shouldn't be seeing a decline in cases of sexual abuse but an absolute end to it once and for all. A decline means it's still happening.
If Pope Francis wants to get the church back on track he should throw the Vatican doors open to the police and cut this rot out at its core.
It's interesting that it's the UN Committee on TORTURE that is addressing the Catholic Church's failings with respect to sexual abuse of the person.
May 06th, 2014 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I feel sure that this UN committee has more than enough to do without extending torture to include buggery.
@ 3 GeoffWard2
May 06th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I feel sure that this UN committee has more than enough to do without extending torture to include buggery.”
I personally know two mature men who as young boys were buggered by the same “priest”. They still carry GUILT to this day and are indeed tortured souls. No amount of psychiatric help has managed to convince them that they were not to blame. I know that to you and me that sounds incredible, but that it is how it is.
I did like this approach:
“Satyabhoosun Gupt Domah of Mauritius, asked if the Holy See was taking steps to eliminate the “chemistry that creates the conditions” for sexual abuse of children by priests.”
Perhaps he thought as I do that anything less than making them into true eunuchs is letting them off the hook. Without the gear they can’t start any malarkey.
And then chuck them out of the RCC.
Yes, Chric, castration would really be 'cutting the rot out at the core' (#2). I remember it being banned in '59 and, especially nowadays, it would be a Human Rights issue.
May 07th, 2014 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0If all buggering, rapist and paedophile priests were castrated, and the liturgical castrati moved to Vatican City, the population would increase by an unmanagable 50-fold (estim.).
Still, the Vatican Choir would have a great captive treble section.
@ 5 GeoffWard2
May 07th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about the rights of the CHILDREN?
I really couldn't care if these creeps were left in the crypt forever (see what I attempted there).
We have far too many rights for the perpetrators and, it seems to me at least, very few for the victims.
I did like your comment about the treble section though. :o)
Hi, Chris. It's a horrible topic; we manage it with black humour.
May 08th, 2014 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Abused children have different 'rights' in different countries.
Usually their only right in (Western) law is to be told that their abuser is going to be punished - by prison, at the most.
I would say that I do not subscribe to the solutions meted out by Christians in Christian African countries to homosexuals in their midst,
but I could well understand the families of children historically sexually abused by Catholic priests taking matters into their own hands and quietly killing the perpetrators.
It is common practice in many Islamic (etc) states where young people in love run away from the situation and are hunted down and killed by their own families - the so called 'shame killings'.
Different strokes for different folks (see what I did there ;)
Contemporary Western society does not condone personal acts of vengeance,
and 'our' society treats very lightly all buggering, rapist and paedophile priests.
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