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Argentina and Chile presidents pledge to increase border crossings
President Cristina Fernández received on Monday her Chilean counterpart Michelle Bachelet and discussed the re-launching of the Maipú Agreement -signed in 2009- to increase the links between the two countries and boost regional commerce with Asia. Read full article
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May 13th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0two mature adults , two mature countries working together as friends, ??..
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May 13th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, Ha nice one
The Argentines are talking through their rear end. They simply do not have the money or the private investment to build their side of the tunnel. Integration will never happen with these crooks, Peru on the other hand is thoroughly intergrating itself with Chile. Chilean FDI is at an all time high at the moment and the future looks even better as chanchelet makes it harder for business to invest in Chile.
May 13th, 2014 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every few years they trot out this old nonsense.
May 14th, 2014 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0After a while its just embarrassing.
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May 14th, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0And Chile has the money where?
You know how long the Argentine side of Jama Pass was finished but unused because you lazy bums couldn't not finish a paved two-lane road on your side some years ago?
How many times is the road closed because you lazy bums can't clear the snow? 80% of the time is YOUR fault.
And BTW, still can't do anything about the Caracoles? The Mendoza side is a proper highway, as in, not a medieval mountain pass with 30 zig-zags but a drivable road, because we blew up mountain sides while you just laid asphalt on the side of one mountain, thus the dangerous trek going down the turns.
I'll be more than happy that YOU stay on your side.
Argentina is broke. Skint. Kapput. Penniless.
May 14th, 2014 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0.
Chile is a growing Powerful Independent Economy and therefore soon to become the pre-eminent political force in Lat Am, as Brazil sinks into the mire of its own leftist mindless infighting bullshit. Sad, but true.
Like Argentina, so much to offer, but destined to fail.
Chile will rise above this crap, I believe. Different culture.
Ilsen, different culture and very different “socialists” but Chile has to put up with our neighbor's crap as we do need them for some issues...
May 14th, 2014 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank God for the Andes Mountains...
The_Truth_shall_B_Trolld (#)
May 14th, 2014 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0We got plenty of money pal, don't worry( anti cyclical fund etc.). I'd like to see your inept, corrupt useless government rebuild after the 5th most powerful earthquake in recorded history and do it without borrowing a cent from anyone!
Your reconstruction would finish about the same time as natural erosion flattens the Andes.
Speaking of the Andes, It's a sheer drop at caracoles how do you suppose to “blow away” that, you are a tripper, just like your president. I suggest you pay a visit sometime and check out our road network. It's world class. We also have flushing toilets connected to the sewage system and tap water not like your crappy septic tank country.
What a way for Argentina to make friends with Chile----insult them.
May 14th, 2014 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Won't work, RG-land, same as bullying doesn't wash with us.
Why are you such losers?
Bachelet wants her weight be felt in Latam and break the isolationist policy of Chile of Piñeras presidency towards its neighbours.
May 14th, 2014 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is no other reason for which she choose to do this trip, as it has being pointed out there has being many announcements like this in the past and nothing has come about, plus Chile knows Argentina is bankrupt.
If Bachelet wants to compete for regional leadership with the Maduro, Correa, Dilma and CKS's gang then so be it. She is a far more beningn left wing leadership than all the others and may serve as a positive road model for the left.
Any minute CFK is going to start talking about the bullet train to Rosario. They're going to be talking about that when the rest the world has anti-gravity cars.
May 14th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0These PR stunts would be laughable if they weren't so sad.
Back in August 2011 they promissed a railroad from Lujan de Cuyo to Los Andes, Chile of 204 km and a 52 km long tunnel and estimated it would be complete by 2022.
May 14th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.transporte.gob.ar/content/acciones_elcorredorbiocenic_1313783614/
By the words of Bachelet and Cristina they haven't even started
Anyone with a brain cell can see there's no money for infrastructure. There may not be enough U$ to buy fuel this winter.
May 14th, 2014 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Peso is acting very strangely, I don't understand what is going on, how it can be falling this time of year and how BCRA is only barely adding funds. Something serious is happening that they're aren't telling anybody about.
There was rumors that the actual liquid real reserves were below U$S 10. Bn in the BCRA.... Who knows if they are balancing the numbers of reserves with what they have being saying they had.
May 14th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Soon we will know
Yeah I heard that too. There has been so many shenanigans played back and forth with intergovernmental notes that it will take a long time before someone will be able to figure it out. My guess is they are broke.
May 14th, 2014 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0They need at LEAST U$7B to fuel Arg through the winter. That's COD!
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May 14th, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least we didn't get bailed out by the IMF like your penniless Britain was saved from oblivion. You are the ultimate bail-out culture.
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The attacks on Argentina here have now reached new levels of insult and racism, from Brits, Americans, and Chileans and a few others. But you don't notice that huh?
You reach new levels, I will sink your countries to new lows with the truths that hurt of your pathetic societies.
16. You've been bailed out BY THE UK fool! And the IMF and THE USA and the Paris Club. I think Argentina has been bailed out more times than any other country.
May 14th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17
May 14th, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? When? How many billion from the UK? From the USA?
Post it up by all means.
hahahahahaha... I won't wait because it is yet another lie.
I've noticed how to every comment I give you provide the exact opposite response.
The sky is blue.
So now the sky is orange.
Poor, poor, American savage. Another mass shooting, you smelly yank?
You owe the Paris Club U$10B+ NOW fool! Why do you think that is?
May 14th, 2014 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Paris club was founded to help ARGENTINA out of its various crashes since the 1950s!
The IMF loaned you BILLIONS in the 70-80-90-00..
Barings in the late 1800s
The list goes on...I think you've defaulted 7X since independence who do you think bailed you out each time? The Countries with the money USA UK and EU.
LOANS ARE NOT BAIL-OUTS YOU IMBECILE!
May 14th, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ONCE AGAIN, GOTCHA!
If I ask for a car loan the bank is not bailing me out are you really that mentally handicapped???
It's Europe, North America, Japan, and other's fault if they lend us money.
We only pay back money to nations we have respect for.
You figure out in which category your nation falls in... hahahahahah.
When your economy is in collapse LOANS are bailouts retard. They were used to fund the economy/ balance of payments deficeits not build infrastructure etc.
May 14th, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gads what do they teach you there?
You know lots of words and not much else.
You were bailing out yourselves, don't kid anyone.
May 14th, 2014 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only time you could have bailed us out, because it wouldn't have affected you is 2001, and didn't.
Convoluted logic is the RG trademark.
May 14th, 2014 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is why the rest of the world laughs at you when your Pols come to speak with us.
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May 14th, 2014 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We only pay back money to nations we have respect for.
So, theft is your national policy ? That is just what you have admitted.
@#5 “@3
May 14th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Chile has the money where?
You know how long the Argentine side of Jama Pass was finished but unused because you lazy bums couldn't not finish a paved two-lane road on your side some years ago? ”
We have the money, be sure about this, “pal”.
But the question here is rather, who is more desperate to connect the andes, having in mind the trade balance. Argentina is much more dependent on Chile than viceversa. We are your 4. biggest buyer of exports worldwide, you export 4,2 billion USD to Chile, while we sell you only 1.1 billion USD (you are our export destination nr 18.) mainly due to trade blocades, import tolls and much more. Of course you should have the lead there, as it is mayorily for your profit. You are not a “desirable” partner in this aspect, nevertheless what Bachelet might say here for the “gallery”.
our focus is rather turned to partners of the Pacific alliance and Asia.
So the feeling is quite the same with us, not really eager to have trade with the thugs over the andes...
@toby
May 14th, 2014 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You know how long the Argentine side of Jama Pass was finished but unused because you lazy bums couldn't not finish a paved two-lane road on your side some years ago? ”
No Toby, I don't know. What I do know is that when I drove up there in 1999 from San Pedro the beautifully paved two land Chilean road stopped at the border where the Argie unpaved road continued.
It just wouldn't be you if you weren't making completely factually incorrect statements.
One day I will tire of educating you.
If Argentina really hits the shit can they simply just open the doors to foreign investment as said the economist Mario Blejer? Everyone wants to invest in Argentina but are waiting for a favorable investment environment. Some are even willing to do so currently. If the country can hold on until end of 2015 and the new government decides to encourage foreign investment surely that will begin to fix its $ deficit problems. Or not?
May 14th, 2014 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(3), (7) & (25)
May 14th, 2014 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If any of you have any idle money in the bank...., I'll would recomend some shares from the San Vicente or Talcahuano harbors...
Doubling border crossing because the present ones are impassable in Winter doesn't solve the problem. In itself, it just means double the number of crossing will be impassable each winter.
May 14th, 2014 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 020. Funny I ran across this little gem today:
May 14th, 2014 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/politica/BID-fuerte-recorte-creditos-Argentina_0_1138086223.html
Bahahahaha
Don't need us huh?
In any other country AxelK wouldn't have enough brainpower to work at McDonalds.
@27 Opening the doors to foreign investment is easier said than done. You pretty much have no choice but to wreck the economy to get foreign investment, so at best Argentina will be at square one. Plus the government will always do what it's in their best interest even if it means screwing investors. Anyone who really thinks there will be a favorable business enviroment in Argentina for long is hopelessly naive.
May 14th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31
May 15th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The next lot will be corrupt. Politicians and politics always are no matter where you go but SURELY they cant be anywhere as bad as the current shower of excrement...
I understand reasonably minded Argentines are wary and weary of Argentine politics but things can change...
32. There are too few “reasonably minded Argentinians” to make the changes that are needed in the Gov't.
May 15th, 2014 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Corruption is endemic in Arg Society, it is part of their very being. They don't even think it is wrong since they all do it.
Until they change that mindset the country is doomed to get poorer and dumber with every generation.
Many Argentines are corrupt not because they want to be but because thats the only way to earn a reasonable living.
May 15th, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe the political system sets it up that way so that the politicians - the most corrupt in Argentine society - are more immune to prosecution. How do the masses pressurize the government and political system for corruption if the masses, to have a reasonable standard of living, are having to break the law themselves by underdeclaring in their taxes or employing en negro etc. So that culture is forced upon people and has established itself. Argentines are caught in the loop.
You will not meet a single Argentine poor or rich who thinks the system is not corrupt. Even Toby, Think etc don't deny the system is corrupt.
But who knows where the tipping point is? The next government will be very different and most likely be more economy friendly. It has to be a step on a better path.
34. The Ks are setting up the next gov't to fail, ask for bailouts, hyperinflation, mass crime waves, narco ruled cities and provinces, just being more business friendly isn't going to cut it.
May 15th, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Ks have destroyed the institutional fabric and the society.
At this point I don't see how it can be repaired without a lot of blood being spilled.
Like Venezuela they're in the beginning of a huge wind down. The ugliness hasn't even begun.
Argentina doesn't have oil to prop it up.
They have Soy that requires them to buy Seed with U$ that they don't' have.
I just don't see how this ends well or in a generation.
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