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Argentina satisfied “with Chile's renewed support for the Malvinas cause”
Argentina's president of the Lower House, Julián Domínguez underlined the “renewed Chilean support for the Malvinas Islands cause” during an event on Monday at the Legislative Assembly which received Chilean president Michelle Bachelet in Congress. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat a load of Bollocks
May 13th, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like it was just tacked onto the end of her statement to keep argentina happy.
May 13th, 2014 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina, Brazil and Chile are the locomotives of South American development”
May 13th, 2014 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0???? WTF?
Well at least he got the Chile part right.
I wonder if they also discussed the proposed Operation Soberania in the 1978 Beagle Conflict?.......And this was after going to international arbitration. It shows what appens when you don't get te decision you want.
May 13th, 2014 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a locomotive of development? And today in the news the unemployed increased by 80% in April...the wineries are laying people off, and auto and real estate are in the dumps.
May 13th, 2014 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0#4 Not only did it go to arbitration, and Argentina lost to Chile (after claiming a bit of Chile), the arbitration was agreed to be handled by Queen Elizabeth II (she delegated it of course), odd that Argentina agreed to the UK arbitrating in the first place if they themselves had a genuine dispute with the UK. The Chileans know that the UK is a friendly country with no designs on their territory and no wish to boss them around, unlike the beast in the east.
May 13th, 2014 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0GB, present day, has nothing to offer Chile. Is like, so last decade.
May 13th, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chile is Argentina's new best friend forever with lots of economic links and agreements.
Discuss.
@6
May 13th, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina and Chile are two countries but only one nation. The Spanish America should be united in a single country. They have the same history, language and customs.
And England was never a friend of South America.
8. Your lack of historical knowledge of South America is shocking I wonder if you are really Brazilian.
May 13th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well at least Dominguez got wants the capital removed BsAs and placed in the North. The country desperately needs infrastructure and more conection with Chile. It really does.
May 13th, 2014 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0However this has to do more with domestic politics as CFK tries for people to assimilate the Chilean success story with her Argentina “administration” of 8 years, and also wants people to assimilate Bachelet's own comeback to politics with her own ambitions for 2019. Kind of the same partnership they wanted to portrait politically with Dilma and it turned out pretty bad.
Of course Bachelet is not stupid and a complice enough to give her what she wants....or is she??
@8 Brasileiro
May 13th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some Chileans might disagree with your first sentence. ”Spanish America' has had hundred's of years to achieve this worthy aspiration. It dose n't look like happening anytime soon.
South America has done worse to it's neighbours and it's self than the rest of world combined has done to you. And multiplied. Which matters the most to you?
Brasileiro
May 13th, 2014 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm with you on that.
One nation. La Patria grande.
Regardless if we achieve it, it's crucial we work towards it.
Big hugs.
12. They can't even keep MercoSur members integrated and none of the successful countries want anything to do with the Alba (loser) nations.
May 13th, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So good luck with that!
What was telling was how little was said.
May 13th, 2014 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dominguez used the now established routine of talking about the FI after a foreign dignitary visit has visited. Other than that he talks about an agreement that was signed in 2009. In other words no new agreements or initiatives were discussed.
But every cloud has a silver lining. Dominguez is correct that the Maipú agreement presents great opportunities. The northern route goes right through Condorito's turf. All that “worthless” fiscal land in La 4ta Región that government gave away in the 90s to anyone who had the initiative to go and mark it out....not so worthless any more :)
In Chile the twitter hashtag that trended most yesterday was #ArgentinaTeRegalamosAMishel - poor Mami is a little besieged right now.
I wonder what would happen if a visiting dignitary actually said “no we don't agree with your cause”. Can you imagine how they would react. It seems that you just can't get anything done in that country unless you pander to their insecurities.
May 13th, 2014 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow
May 13th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Statements in the comments from malvinistas that seem be giving their opinion that some Spanish speaking countries in South America are not proper countries/don't have populations with distinct peoples...
I'm sure I've seen an argument somewhere that says this means they don't get self determination.
Chuckle chuckle
Next on the agenda - LAN flights.
May 13th, 2014 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle.
@3 “Argentina, Brazil and Chile are the locomotives of South American development”
May 13th, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why doesn't anybody mention that argieland is in reverse and going down a hill. If justice is to be properly served, SCOTUS will shortly dismiss argieland's legal prevarication and order it to comply with the judgements against it.
@7 Forever? Sometime in the next 10 years, argieland will attack Chile.
@8 “And England was never a friend of South America.” Could have been. But the Spanish bit brought too much of its arrogance. Not a lot of chance of being a “friend” now. YOU attacked US. Now you're an enemy. Every day.
@12 Litle ex-pat from a little insignificant place cheering on a worthless place as it tries to hang on to someone else's coattails. 5,000 years from now most of South America will be worse than it is now. Backward, corrupt, criminal, degenerate, incompetent, larcenous, mendacious, puerile and ridiculous.
@19
May 13th, 2014 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Give it up. No one knows where Britain even is in South America. You could go your entire life in “South America” and not need one thing from that place.
stevie, is that when you will return to SA?
May 13th, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#19 tell your ignorant friends about 300nm southeast of Buenos Aires. For a city (BsAs) loaded with British tourists, I am surprised by such an idiotic statement.
@ 19, so you don't use telephones, televisions, the internet, toilets (I'll give you that one), fire extinguishers, lawn mowers etc etc etc etc etc?
May 13th, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19
May 13th, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's funny because I'm in Brazil right now. Everyone seems to know where Britain is and even the beach vendors speak some English. I've spotted quite a few locals wearing Union Jack t-shirts.
BTW the Brazilian guy on my hotel reception said “Ah, Argentina is broke again”.
Vestige-get up to date! CFK tried the Lan issue with Pinera 2 years ago- she was told to piss odd as Lan was a commercial airline and up to them where they flew - but she could of course withdraw the overflight permit anytime - except that the Arg Veterans and Families Assoc have told her they NEED a regular flight to the Islands. Ball in your court - the Falklands are not that fussed really if you do want to be stupid.
May 13th, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for Arg being Chile,s best friend! - try telling that to all those individuals,businesses and Govts that were affected by the gas supply collapse!
Supporting a sovereignty claim that is illegitimate is irrelevant. Most SA countries realise this and are just paying lip-service to Argentina's 'Great Malvinas lie.' Lol.
May 13th, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
May 13th, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0300nm southeast of Buenos Aires there is open ocean.
@21
Telephones? Yeah, all made in Korea, Finland, or India.
Internet? Oh no not again with this “Britain invented the internet”. That was the funniest things of 2011.
Lawn mowers? Ok, I'll give you that one.
@22
Brazil is getting ready for the World Cup. No one in Argentina would know though.
A Brazilian and and Brit together talking about Argentina is like a feminist and a lesbian talking about men.
Cristina Fernandez and Michelle Bachelet are setting the foundations for the economic sovereignty of our peoples”.
May 13th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0about time then....200 years late though.
“ is like a feminist and a lesbian talking about men.”
May 13th, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another primitive remark by Tobe - the guy that is constantly crying here about the horrible prejudices that some people have towards Argentina.
Feminists are all men-haters. Typical macho-primitive-machist-misogynist narrative. His next step is to say that girls like to be beaten up and should marry virgin.
@19 “No one knows where Britain even is in South America”
May 13th, 2014 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There you go again making sweeping false statements. The very small world you inhabit probably is full of ignorant people that cannot identify countries on a map. I believe that.
In general:
Is anyone watching 'The Road to Rio' on Dave? A couple of comedians - Mark Watson and Henning Wehn - travelling through the six South American countries taking part in the World Cup Final. Last nights episode was in Argentina and very funny it was too. They were on the hunt for Maradona, met a few Argentinian footie players and visited the Maradona church in Rosario, amongst other things. The commentary on the Argentinean players was particularly funny as they all seemed to have been banned or sent off for bad behaviour. But the players all spoke affectionately about their time in England and were mature enough to accept their behaviour was somewhat lacking at the time.
During the programme they visited one of the Villa's to scout for new talent as many famous Argentinean players came from such backgrounds. They needed a guide and a full police armed guard to go into the Villa. They were warmly welcomed but at no point could they have been there without the armed guards.
For TTT's information, everyone knew where Britain was, even in the slums.
If you can see it, it was an affectionate and funny episode. Next week is Chile.
And where were respective southern borders of the two countries “Two hundred years ago”.
May 13th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By that time, the S. Atlantic had long been established British territory.
#25 so it is tit mouse. Seems you are too stupid to get the point. Back to point. Is the education so bad in Argentina they no longer teach geography there? Or do the teach a bastardized version of it. England is up there with Egypt, Greece, Rome as empires and they do not teach history either?
May 13th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WTF do they teach in Argentina? Let me restate that.........in the public kirchnerized schools in Argentina. Must Argentine's I know had to go to private school for a real education.
@28
May 13th, 2014 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's count the sweeping generalization shall we??
“The commentary on the Argentinean players was particularly funny as they all seemed to have been banned or sent off for bad behaviour.”
All argentine football players are bad thugs. (not a generalization in Elaine World)
“They needed a guide and a full police armed guard to go into the Villa. They were warmly welcomed but at no point could they have been there without the armed guards. ”
All football players in Argentina come from a Villa (not you are really getting deep down in Elaine World).
Notice again, confirming what I was saying in the other thread, NOT ONE positive about the country. The summation is all argies are thugs and come from “slums”.
Well, that's not sweeping enough isn't it? And the best part it is not one guy on some obscure internet website “sweeping”, it is a British television chain!
Which confirms what I have been saying the Brits are delusional. Here is one Brit-She scathing me on “sweeping statements”, follows it up with a British television show making sweeping statements on the AIRWAVES (note the “church of Maradona” being included, intimating all argies are supersticious pseudo- religious heretics), adding cherry to that turpitudinous cake of cheap stereotypes.
Of course, if an Argie show went to Britain, and showed some monolingual, toothless British Chavs shooting penalty kicks and missing goal each time, Elaine would be the first crying foul.
These people are not rehab material. Which is why like I just say: The Truth shall be trolled.
Toby! Calm down dear! And....take some of those nice tablets. Your sense of humour is...well, very German, but then so is Henning, and he has one.
May 13th, 2014 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are sooooo...European.
As per normal its the Argentine cretin who has to say “country X” supported peaceful negotiations, its never the diplomat from “country X” who says it. Why is this I wonder?
May 13th, 2014 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes after that rant and the perfect English, I'm not sure that there is a South American behind the facade. He did use a Z in generalisation I noticed.
May 13th, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is he on about, Argentina only get their footballers from Aston Villa!!!!
May 13th, 2014 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@TTT
May 13th, 2014 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, the comedians met with Argentinean players that had 1) cheated, 2) refused to go off when sent off, 3) been sacked for leaping into the crowd and punching a supporter.
The players had a sense of humour about it, which you just do not possess. I didn't categorise ALL Argentinean players as thugs at all. I was talking about a television programme that I did not produce or edit.
I didn't say all Argentinean players came from the Villas but the programme highlighted that a lot of talented players do have that background. Indeed, if you have an opportunity to watch it you will see that retired payers go into the Villas to talent spot and work with the young players there. They must think it is worth spending time there.
Try reading my post without the huge chip on your shoulder obscuring your view.
“If you can see it, it was an affectionate and funny episode. ” Affectionate. Funny. Both positive words you have ignored because it doesn't feed your persecution complex.
Let's get back to your sweeping statement that no one knows where Britain is. You were completely wrong again.
TTT, are you still being a parasite or do you pay into the system you live off?
If Alicia Castro doesn't know where Britain is why does she spend most of her time in London?
May 13th, 2014 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0looks like old news.
May 13th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0everybody already knew that the whole south america backs argentina in its claim over malvinas.
it is the same in africa, the whole arab world, most of asia inlcuding china and rusia, and most of europe.
england is alone in this matter like loco malo.
@34 I have wondered that. He doesn't know much about Mendoza, where he claims to live. I offered him an opportunity to prove it because I was due to visit Mendoza last year. Obviously, I had no intention or inclination to meet with him but offered a way he could prove he lived there. He disappeared off the internet just before I arrived in Mendoza and did not appear until after I had left.
May 13th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest, it doesn't really matter. He is not like any Argentine I have met, thank goodness.
LOL so no south Americans know of England or the UK!! Well you lot seem to, does that mean that your not from Latin America LOL Here is a little snippet of data, it is somewhat outdated now as it is from 2008
May 13th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The APS suggests the 2008 Latin American population of London to be
79,269 out of a total UK Latin American population of 130,186. London
contains 61 percent of the UK Latin American population by country of birth.
The largest proportions of Latin Americans in London come from Brazil,
followed by Colombia and Argentina. ”
Then we have this :-)
“2008 number of South Americans granted British citizenship 27,939”
Then you might want to read this LOL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_American_migration_to_the_United_Kingdom
Here in London I can even buy Brazilian food from street vendors and they are Brazilian :-) the number of Latin American restaurants is amazing :-) they even have one in the O2 Arena.
But of course what would I know you must be right no one knows of us LOL
Everybody you know may think like that (but then who do you know), the rest of the world certainly doesn’t.
May 13th, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you had ever been out in the world, you would know that.
Don’t believe me, then put it to a UN vote.
What did Chile have to say?
May 13th, 2014 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did the Chileans actually say this as a public statement?
this twits talk about personal opinions...lol
May 13th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the important thing is what the different governments have said about this issue.
and yes, they all back argentina
“Argentina, Brazil and Chile are the locomotives of South American development, and given their production potential and strategic geographic location will conduct the advance of all the other brotherly countries”.
May 13th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ABC pact.
An old peronist dream.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Abc_countries_south_america.PNG
Funny how it is always an Argentine saying it though, hey!
May 13th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reminds me of the famous, Republic of Ireland Decleration of support.
The one that no one has been able to find a trace of. Outside of Argentina that is!
#19
May 13th, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one knows where Britain even is in South America.
You seem to know so I presume you are NOT in S.A. The same must apply to think et al. Your government seem to know where it is also.
You could go your entire life in “South America” and not need one thing from that place.
Except the English language !
23 islander.
May 13th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ CFK tried the Lan issue with Pinera 2 years ago- she was told to piss odd as Lan was a commercial airline and up to them where they flew
- Ah, I see, a no 2 years ago means a no forever. ”Next“.
”As for Arg being Chile,s best friend! - try telling that to all those individuals,businesses and Govts that were affected by the gas supply collapse!”
- One negative, but kind of dwarfed by the greater part of Arg-Chile relations. GB has no allies left in S.America. The islands still have 5 or 6 routes, almost all routes passing through Argentine/Mercosur airspace. For this issue, time is not on your side ... figure it out.
The bemused President of Chile looks on as an Argentinean document is thrust in front of her.
May 13th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before Chile rants on about the Falklands, perhaps they should think about the future of their own colony 3000 kms of their coast ruled by a governor appointed from Santiago, Easter Island or Isla de Pasqua.
May 13th, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last I heard was that the indigenous inhabitants were not too happy about the status quo
ElaineB , I have cycled through Mendoza and probing Toby about its geography he knew practically nothing of it. I think he is in London, probably getting treatment. He clearly appears ill, but then many of the trolls appear to be like that. They all seem to claim black is white and vice versa.
May 13th, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paul
May 13th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your knowledge of Britain is atrocious, especially when discussing your lack of need for it.
As the UK is the second largest investor into medical research in the world, with two of the largest pharmaceutical companies....chances are very often Latin Americans are very grateful for British products and British innovation.
Indeed, in times of direst need, it may often be British innovation that saves lives and cures disease.
Now of course it maybe correct, as you suggest, that the poor education system in most of Latin America means that there in no appreciation of where many of the vaccines, medicines and treatments you rely on come from. Indeed, you may be right that the poor education means many couldn't find the UK on a map....that is not our worry, it should be yours.
But, when...(unlikely though it may seem), you were to have children...(Yuk, poor, poor girl) and they require healthcare, I urge you not to look at where the vaccines or drugs were developed...but just thank your God that they were.
If the last 32 years are anything to judge by, then time is the one thing that is most certaiinly well on truely on the side of the Falkland Islanders.
May 13th, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unless of course I and the rest of the civilised world have missed something, some Argentine diplomatic success or some political concession by the FIG? hum nope!
Pretty sure that has not happened.
Argentina satisfied “with Chile's obedience with the latest CFK instruction.
May 13th, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem Argentina has is not in persuading the various Latin countries, or indeed the odd tinpot dictatorship to side with them on this Malvinas fiasco. They voted with Argentina last time there was a UNGA vote on self-determination of NSGTs.
May 13th, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The issue they have is that the vast majority of countries that were neither Latin nor tin-pot voted with the UK, giving the UK a sizeable majority in the UNGA. Simultaneously, destroying more Argie lies that “the world supports them” and removing any doubt that self-determination applies to all NSGTs.
When we start to see say 10-20 countries that are neither tin-pot nor Latin (or both in some cases), supporting anything else than peaceful resolution...then perhaps there is a story.
Currently, I count 2 countries, India (Kashmir in mind), and China (anyone of two dozen island groups!!!) that voted with Argentina in 2008 that are of any interest....the rest were Latin or tinpot.
Whereas the 60 or so voting with the UK were quite a diverse mix.
You have to admit, if the Falkland Islands can distract Argentines in the current climate, they deserve every bit of the mess they are in.
May 13th, 2014 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/world/americas/rocketing-prices-confound-an-argentina-racked-by-inflation.html
I've heard it described as Argentina's “small penis complex”. The government acts in a way and needs constant reassurance that they are the real deal. The other SA countries know that they need to say the obligatory “las malvinas son argentinas” line to help relieve this insecurity before getting down to real business.
May 13th, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige- you are missing a point or to- Chile has a successful growing economy - largely because its Govt keeps out of it and lets business do business and just collects profits taxes. So I do not see a Chilean Govt telling Lan where it can and cannot fly to. Chile respects international conventions and organisations as well.
May 13th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for other routes - so you are telling me that if a major US or European airline that say already flies to Brazil sees a worthwhile opening in the Falklands to add on in future - that a Brazilian Govt is going to tell that major int airline where it can and cannot fly to?
Even one from Uruguay for that matter - or further north than Brazil.
all of the above would go clear of Arg airspace.
You do have an inflated view of Argentina,s power over other nations and the respect they allegedly have for Argentina.
No- the only way the Lan route from Chile would stop is if your President has the balls to cancel and withhold the overflight permit -which would be a major breach of UN governed Int flying regulations and I doubt she has the balls to do it.
GB has good friends in S.America - Brazil-Chile-Peru-Columbia for a start, Royal Navy ships not associated with the Falklands visit Brazil.RN ships associated with the Falklands visit Uruguay, Chile(Valparaiso) and Columbia.
Chile,s Bicentennary Naval review said it all- head of the foreign navies line- British destroyer - longway down near the back- the Argentine ship!
Can anyone provide a link to the equivalent Chilean Government statement?
May 13th, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously?
”Argentina satisfied “with Chile's renewed support for the Malvinas cause”
May 13th, 2014 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank God for that.
A big relief for Chilé that they have Argentinas approval. No more hanging their heads in shame.
56
May 13th, 2014 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The other SA countries know that they need to say the obligatory “las malvinas son argentinas” line to help relieve this insecurity before getting down to real business.”
Totally correct.
It's pure lip service and everyone involved knows it.
@58 ilsen
May 13th, 2014 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile's position has remained unchanged. In other words verbal support for Argentina's claim. It is all in the name of co-existing. Chile has nothing to lose by taking this position. It helps keep Argentina in check re Bolivia's claim on our north (as was demonstrated during Bachelet's last term).
It also has no impact on our relations with the UK that continue as good as ever. The only more Anglophile country in South America is ironically Argentina.
Well aid Condorit, I recall a senior retired Chilean Diplomat on a visit here last saying- when shown a set of export documentations from Chilean Govt depts. addressed to the Falklands Islands - “ well that is probably how 95% of Chile feels about the Islands - but with a 5000km border - whatever Govt is in power will go with the 5% in public”!
May 14th, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0As many of my Chilean friends say when I visit-“there is one problem between Chile and the Islands” - “ the bit in the middle”!
Islander. Should your post read “the bint in the middle”?
May 14th, 2014 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@61 Condorito
May 14th, 2014 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for your reply.
Chile and The UK have had good relations for many years. I do understand the need for 'local politics' . The bloody EU is a pain in the arse!
However, Chile has always had the strength to take its own path.
Long may that tradition continue!
@32
May 14th, 2014 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Using “sense of humor” as escapegoatism to condone sweeping generalizations is a vacuous excuse. Then one could claim “humor” to make all kinds of statements, racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, misogynist, anti-animal, agist, anti-faith, etc.
@39
I will ask you for the FOURTH TIME, you've dodged the question every timef: Why do “I” need to prove to you or anyone else here anything?
Why have you not demanded the same of all the others here when they talk about Argentina, like asking them “you ever been there?”
But you don't.
The only conclusion to that double-standard and your own reticence is that “argies” must prove to European and North American posters their credentials but NOT the other way around.
I don't know but that smells all the way to here as a blatant prejudice. And prejudice is almost always an indicator of other beliefs...
Umm... “ escapegoatism ” is not acually a word. Well not in any recognised language I can find.
May 14th, 2014 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is this though, which is more amusing than anything you have ever posted,
http://benigngirl.wordpress.com/2007/11/24/the-thin-waters-of-escapegoatism-in-art-interpretation/
Maybe this is you?
Prove your credentials or otherwise be known as “The Goat Toby”.
Beware the Power of Ilsen!
ilsen
May 14th, 2014 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have re-invented yourself!
In your brief hiatus, you have learned not to take these Trolls seriously.
Loving the latest links on various threads.
Waiting for www.menwhostareatgoattobys.com
Interesting posts, but many of you do not realize that little insignificant Chile lives alongside an abusive reckless and irresponsible neighbor that thankfully God almighty placed a high rock wall to separate us from. The UK remains our ally, despite the rhetoric from La Moneda.
May 14th, 2014 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0If LANTAM has to give up the FI route, DAP will fill in with a charter flight. Even if they have to fly around Arg airspace...
In the meantime... Bla, bla, bla, yes the Malvinas is ...
@TTT. You missed responding to my post @36.
May 14th, 2014 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0““argies” must prove to European and North American posters their credentials ” No, just you. You claim to speak for all Argentines so, yes, you do need to prove yourself if you are going to take that grandiose stance.
@66 It is a strange mistake for someone new to the English language to make don't you think?
@68 Yes, I understand. Your best friends may be far away but you still have to rub along with your neighbours for a peaceful life.
@69 ElaineB,
May 14th, 2014 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our obnoxious, hates-everything-British, troll, TTT wouldn't be that Dutch idiot from the USA, who was always going on about bad teeth, perchance.?
Can't remember his name, insignificant as he was/is. l used to call him Cloggs.
Sounds like him & has the same attitude.
Locomotive in reverse gear.
May 14th, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 057 islander.
May 14th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you think that flight routes are somehow impervious to political influence when theres billions of dollars passing between Argentina and other mercosur countries then think again.
Whatever friendship GB might have with Brazil, Chile etc is now nothing compared with the economic ties and mercosur membership of Argentinas direct neighbors. A flight slot or two is nothing between besties, nor is hangar space, permits, new regulations, and so so much more in the tricky, and so often political, business that is aviation.
Where theres a will theres a way, especially if theres munnay and influence involved.
(I doubt the islands are a very profitable or important route for anyone important ... new more profitable opportunities may suddenly appear)
Each day, each large trade contract, each accord, vested interest and diplomatic meeting among the chattering classes of these ever closer neighbor countries, is an opportunity for Argentina to control 90% of the islands air transport. So give it a little time.
Since the “malvinas” neither exist nor have ever existed, it is obviously “easy to support” such silly “cause”.
May 14th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
72. I wouldn't want to be Argentina if they start denying flyovers for private airlines. It is really easy for other countries and companies to retaliate.
May 14th, 2014 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is too weak and poor to have any influence in the northern hemisphere. Why do you think Brazil is so desperate to get a FTA with the EU? Arg is dying and everyone knows it.
Hmmm.
May 14th, 2014 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0” Argentina, Brazil and Chile are the locomotives of South American development, and given their production potential and strategic geographic location will conduct the advance of all the other brotherly countries”.
“The Maipù treaty is a great opportunity for the great north of Argentina, an area far from the traditional Atlantic trade relations, thanks to the economic, land and ports complementation between our north and Chile”.
I would read this as a sweet buttering-up of Chile to then sponsor and promote Argentina into the Pacific Alliance. Dictated Argentinian terms to then follow.
Which unfortunately would be yet another disaster, or as they say another train-wreck. There is your real locomotive.
@74
May 14th, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Air links to the Northern Hemisphere are insignificant to Argentina's economy. Those places have virtually nothing to offer which is why we simply ignore them even when they beg for trade or cooperation (USA, Europe, Britain).
Not important enough in our priority list.
76. Funny YPF was just in Houston and London begging for money. I think they said Don't call us we'll call you. bye bye
May 14th, 2014 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh and retarded AxelK was just here begging the IDB and WB for funds and pleading with the IMF to accept the “new Indec” numbers.
and and and and
@70 I guess it could be, Isolde. I can't recall his name either but his obsession with teeth could only be indicative of him being dentally challenged. I don't think TTT just hates anything British, he hates himself and his situation in life. He is poor and powerless to get out of poverty but intelligent enough to know that in another country or situation he could amount to something.
May 14th, 2014 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT, what you think is important to you is not the same as what is important to Argentina. Argentina NEEDS air links to foreign lands. Argentina cannot afford to risk losing those links. If nothing else,how would CFK's lay-about daughter be able to go shopping in New York?
Does anyone else on here find it laughable that the trolls on here have a go at us for not trying to have closer links with South America and then go on about how they'll use polotics to sever any links we do have.
May 14th, 2014 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 074 - Keeping in line with Argentinas assertion that the listed disputed territory is Argentine, and seeing that the UN recognizes only de facto GB administration whats to stop some customs/excise inspections of any of those barely profitable overflying flights to those islands.
May 14th, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps the world and its mother will side with the private company over a nation/economy of 40 million. Perhaps they'll all get together and 'easily retaliate' hugely damaging Argentina.
Solidarity within the aviation industry, brothers let us boycott and topple an entire country, theres nothing to lose in boycotting Argentina, I mean we are talking about the malvinas, a major customer base and aviation hub. We the shareholders will never disappoint our beloved kel?ers.
#80
May 14th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments in your last paragraph.
80
May 14th, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you're seeing sense, “Vesti£e”.
Solidarity brothers!!
Argentina is worried now.
=-D
As do the other anonymous world wide scattered multi-national shareholders who are happy so long as their portfolio turns a profit.
May 14th, 2014 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They care about the kel?ers, as does management.
No really.
@80 Irrelevant piffle because there is no legality in Argentina's claims. Lol
May 14th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 80 Vestige
May 14th, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not necessary to “damage Argentina”, CFK & Co have done a thorough enough job already.
Nor a “boycott”, as fewer people fly in for any reason and less and less people there can afford to travel out. It’s dying a death anyway.
Going to Antarctica, Falklands is the hub, in the safe and stable British S. Atlantic.
monkey
May 14th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Your knowledge of Britain is atrocious, especially when discussing your lack of need for it.”
i didn´t say anything about that.
next time try to pay attention before starting all that sh*tty diatribe
not a surprise your nickname is monkey
@86 see @19 or are you pretending to be a different poster now....
May 14th, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige
I love your posts. What you appear to be saying is that you want Chile to stop its flight to the Falklands, so that Argentina can control it/stop it, thus negatively impacting the lives of the islanders.
You dont seem to realise, that your bullying, your threats, your childish attitude is EXACTLY and TOTALLY the reason why you will never get sovereignty.
YOU CANNOT starve them out..you silly silly little man.
What you can do is tighten their resolve to NEVER EVER have anything to do with your sovereignty myth.
Britian sacrificed 255 lives to protect the islands sovereignty, a few quid to ensure an air link is NOTHING in comparison.
you still are lost in “Thinks” cost-per-kelper myth....it is irrelevant.,,more so once the islands income multiplies over the next decade.
80. Those shenanigans haven't work for oil exploration nor cruise ships. Why would you want now damage your failing airline business?
May 14th, 2014 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Silly idiot you may want to think through your empty threats first.
In a tit for tat Argentina will lose
again and
again
87
May 14th, 2014 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oops “Paul” is really “Toby” - LOL, both are as stupid as the other!
estige- What billions of dollars between Arg and mercosur and ARg,s other S.American partners? The message has been slear for some time- Ur,Par, and Br are fed up with BA - thats why they want to force an agreement with EEC and are pushing for their own with USA etc.
May 14th, 2014 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And that is why neither would want to piss off a major airline from EU or USA if it wanted to onfly to the Islands - I say - if - the demand is not there yet.
Oh and where does this mystical 90% of air-routes come from - currently 33% come from S.America - the other 66% come direct from Europe.
If you were silly enough you could control- ie stop - the 33% - but that is where you end.
Customs etc- love to know how an Arg customs official is going to search cargo on a plane that flies over him at 20,00 feet or more! The flight is direct from Chile 3 weeks out of 4.
No need to starve them out, that might take a while anyway judging by every photo Ive seen of the kel?ites.
May 14th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arg is never going to pander or try the charm offensive, everyone knows thats not an option in any case, so nothing to lose.
Just better for Arg to have control of those flights, which it will.
PS: Yankee you're never going to see your holdout money, give up.
88 yankeeboy
May 14th, 2014 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't think that argentina had much of an economy to wreck these days.
The money that was supposed to be spent on bring the national carrier up to date went “missing” didn't it? and no one seems to know where it went so really, more damage at this point would tend to go unnoticed.
The only thing that argentina could do ( and this has been discussed over and over on this forum ) is to deny overflight to any Chilean airline flight going to the Falklands, that would also be self defeating again but no one would notice that either me thinks.
91
May 14th, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There you are you see Vestige...Argentina, in your words, will never “pander” to the inhabitants of the territory which you claim.
This, absolutely and totally is at odds with the UN resolution 2065 which you and your ridiculous ilk, keep misquoting...where the interests of the islanders, AND the UN charter have to be respected....the UN Charter which grants all people the right to self determination.
You've said it yourself moron, the one and only way Argentina could gain sovereignty is to “pander” to the wishes of the islanders and persuade them that Argentine sovereignty is in their interests.
All your other actions are cowardly spite...beneath most..,but aspirational for you.
The flights will never be under Argentine control though, further underlining your laughable impotence.
Oh do you mean ... 'peoples' ?
May 14th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The unhappy cam?ers are not 'a people'.
As for the rest of your post .... well nah nah nah nah to you too.
Oh and yes... they will.
94 Vestige
May 14th, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”The unhappy cam?ers are not 'a people'.
says who? You ? Argentina?
Certainly, they are NOT Argentinian.
Most of the People living there are Falklsnders, and their land is the Fslkland Islands.
Can anyone else make that claim? No.
Certainly not the Argentinians. They can't even call themselves Malvinians, as no Argentinisn has ever lived there.
In fact, they do not exist.
#12 'One nation. La Patria grande.'
May 14th, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Der Anschluss, Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein... Sounds familiar?
91. Other than showing the Ks shear idiocy, arrogance and being scofflaws what do the holdouts have to do with this conversation?
May 14th, 2014 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My guess is Argentina will pay after the next Prez is forced into an IMF bailout.
I hope they have enough lamp posts for all the Ks and their cronies. They may have to double and triple up though.
Seems the flights are still happening.
May 15th, 2014 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why is Argentina taking so long to stop them?
Guess LAN could just fly around Argentinean airspace. Longer flight but possible.
87
May 15th, 2014 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0try learn the numbers before posting, you tw@t.
89
yeah, right... and you are the genius of this 4th class site.
happy now?
btw, how many hours per day do you dedicate to post bullshit here?
24?
|Vestige - you still keep on about Arg getting control over flights- but fail totally to say how it ever will? 2 of the 3 flights a week and 100% under British control and for so long as Argentina remains belligerent and aggressive to the Islands - those 2 flights week will continue and continue to carry passengers mail and freight. Yes you could cut the 3rd- the Lan flight - and achieve nothing except more hatred from us Islanders and the disgust and contempt of the several thousands of Chileans who would then be cut off from their families and relatives whom live here.
May 15th, 2014 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0#90
May 15th, 2014 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0If this is a 4th class site it begs the question :-
1) What are the 1st class sites ?
2) Why are you bothering to post comments if it is beneath your dignity to be associated with such a lowly, “biased” journalistic endeavour.
@94
May 15th, 2014 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor vestige, you seem behind the times...I think you will find that all UNGA resolutions explicitly call for the right to self determination of the people's of the NSGTs, no exceptions no special cases.
..... and thats why nobody recognized the squatter sham-erendum.
May 15th, 2014 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0??
100 - sounds good.
Nobody? Squatter?
May 15th, 2014 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're not an attorney are you?
Those words have specific meanings and methinks you don't know how to use them correctly.
Or you're just lying as usual.
Oh ... ok nobody bar GB and Canada and a paid private organization with a one page website.
May 15th, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How you been watching your Matlock cassettes again ??
So nobody but the people that count? I am fine with that?
May 15th, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you look up the term squatter? And how long do they need to get clear title in Argentina? Hmm is it less than 150 yrs? Yes, yes it is.
moron
@ 94 Vestige
May 15th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UNGA voted to give the Fl Islanders the right to self-determination a long time ago. Even drawing up a list so there could be no mistake about who was included.
And has then confirmed this right in every resolution on the subject since.
You can read it on the UN web site, in Spanish if you wish.
30 years ago when they used to hide information like that in books, you could (in unread company) get away with such bullshit. Today with the information just a few clicks away, you can’t.
Insisting black is white, is not going to make it white, it just makes you look foolish.
#101
May 15th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Should have put on my reading glasses ! Reference should have been #99
Vestige the Argie Squatter, go back to Italy or wherever.....
May 15th, 2014 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arse.
May 16th, 2014 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@79 Benson
May 17th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes-logic not their strong point-like
'We'll not offer any ports to support the Islands oil industry therefore losing Argentina a lot of money“
To which Islander logic seems to be OK, we'll build our own port which will compete with Southern American ports in the future
@91 Vestige
”Arg is never going to pander or try the charm offensive”
Ensuring, that by excluding this, the only method that could see Argentina gain anything from the Falklands (ever heard of damage limitation?), Argentina will never get any substantial benefit from the Falkland Islands, whilst assisting the Islands to more self autonomy.
Of course Argentina could always try the method that failed in 1982.
@110 Mentally ILL SON
May 18th, 2014 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Arse”
Is that what you just had or what you want?
Confused by you Geek chic gay self proclaimed superior intellect BA uni terminology.
Oooh gay as an insult.
May 18th, 2014 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good one Mendocinovino.
FAIL!
113 Anglotino
May 18th, 2014 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0that's what I said.
niño-Mendocino tried that on another thread, too:
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/05/10/falklands-among-the-best-30-islands-in-the-world?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=aviso_comentarios#comments
Seems to be a common La Campora Juvenil thing to do.
@113 Anglotino
May 18th, 2014 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Funny how you never said anything about Troy using the same insult to be on the sea coral thread....... What's good for the goose.....
So if I am insulted am I not permitted on here to defend myself?
If I am Trolled I can Troll right back. If they do not like my tone then they obviously don't like their own tone. I simply give like for like.........
Mendocinovino
May 18th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Own your mistake mate.
Now you are just sounding whiney and pitiful.
Defend yourself? God grow a pair and move on. Your inane and continuous trolling while chasing people around this site is truly yawn-inspiring.
No one had trolled you on this thread. You just waltzed in and took aim at someone. That is trolling in its truest form.
So you weren't trolling right back. Nor were you gallantly defending yourself.
Chasing Ilsen and Troy seems to get you going. Doesn't make you gay, just pathetic.
As Troy has shown, this isn't the first time you have attempted to insult someone by calling them gay.
Feel free to highlight Troy's homophobic remark.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/05/02/sea-coral-cnidarian-protein-offers-new-barrier-against-hiv-infection
Anglotino
May 18th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your are mistaken. Troy and Ilsen have been chasing him around. Then trying “pitifully” to bait me. I for one cannot abide these two (down from 3) Trolls.
You say Mendocinovino Waltzed in. But that is what they had done to him!
I make him right....continue to hound them wherever they go. They should not be allowed to carry on Trolling un-challenged.
As for the Gay comment why have you taken that one word to be the insult and focus of your attention?
“Geek chic gay self proclaimed superior intellect BA uni terminology.”
The link you provide does indeed prove that Troy was Trolling Mendocinovino and using “Gay” terminology.
8 Troy Tempest (#)
May 04th, 2014 - 05:41 pm
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7 Anglotino
“Mendocino”@1 likes his shoved in Mendosa !!
So Anglotino, I have highlighted the remark. Looks to me like Troy Waltzing in. Much like Ilsen did to him on some other thread.
Like for like indeed. keep going I say!
IMO
Anglotina
May 18th, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ You just waltzed in and took aim at someone.” wish yu'd do that to me!
113
May 18th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...hey Skip.... you obviously think it is....
....curious.....if you weren't Gay would you still be bothered by Gay remarks....
That was a rhetorical question...because I know you will jump on your high and mighty righteous horse and........lie and say yes......
Here is a tip for anyone that wants to know..it was passed on to me by Mr Think...
The (#) next to the name is a direct link to the comment....
Right click the symbol “copy link” and paste into your post....like so..
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/05/13/argentina-satisfied-with-chile-s-renewed-support-for-the-malvinas-cause#comment327152
@103
May 18th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“and thats why nobody recognized the squatter sham-erendum.”
I hope your ancestry is Amerindian-otherwise you are a squatter yourself.
Keith
May 18th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see in your world that two wrongs make a right.
So Mendocinovino has descended to the same level as Ilsen and Troy then? Wow he must be so proud of himself. And he's added layer of homophobia - so is now worse or better than them?
And if you think that remark of Troy's was homophobic then I expect A_Voice to find you even more curious. Here's a hint. Me telling you to shove something up your arse doesn't make it homophobic. Calling you gay for saying something does.
I'm unsurprised you can't tell the difference.
Forgetit87
I'll wait for you to post something worthwhile somewhere.
A_Voice
As a man without principles, of course you find it curious. You keep blowing in the wind mate, it's been great to see your opinions slowly coalesce to the same as so many others.
121
May 18th, 2014 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My opinion Skip....live and let live....Snappy dressers with a bit of style....
....but if there's some comic value in a bit of a light hearted dig...I'm game...
I'm Game! (or maybe a bit 'gamey' if left out in the Sun to long, sorry English Old School joke!).
May 18th, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Firstly;
“Confused by you Geek chic gay self proclaimed superior intellect BA uni terminology.”
was an 'insult' directly aimed at me. Of which I am rather PROUD, because it exposes both the original posters lack of intellect, (and lack of wit), and also his homophobia.
Superb!
I must admit that I highly 'camped-it-up' on another thread, but that was for the same reason.
My sexuality, nor anyone else's has NO bearing on what they have to say.
Do you get it yet?
Mr Mend My (Bi)cycle?
jejeejejeje!
Can we move on now?
well done Bachelet!!! has greater support to Agentina by the Malvinas Islands, the next, no more fly's from Chile just only from Argentina!!!or not more flys
May 19th, 2014 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oye Puerto Argentino-
May 19th, 2014 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0What does that accomplish ?
Should we then stop all flights between EZE and GRU because of the bad manners of a few Porteños ?
121 Anglotino
May 19th, 2014 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0“And if you think that remark of Troy's was homophobic then I expect A_Voice to find you even more curious. Here's a hint. Me telling you to shove something up your arse doesn't make it homophobic. Calling you gay for saying something does.
I'm unsurprised you can't tell the difference. ”
Thanks Anglotino,
“Keith Sock” has earlier tacitly agreed that he is partisan - a Voicey, Troll, cheerleader.
His “righteous indignation” at my comments are like water off a duck's back to me, given his selective criticism, ignoring the slagging by Voice et al.
With Voice's admission of ongoing Trolling for entertainment purposes, I can't see a reason to listen to one of his Socks.
@121 Anglotino --Own your mistake mate. --What mistake. You yourself are not impartial to using sexual references. But you find the word “Gay” off limits.
May 19th, 2014 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0--Now you are just sounding whiney and pitiful.--Why have you directed that at me? seems to me those other trolls are the winey ones......i'm cleverer than you...waaa.......I went to University......see i am clever I proved it. Don't make me laugh!
-Defend yourself? God grow a pair and move on. Your inane and continuous trolling while chasing people around this site is truly yawn-inspiring. -- I am sure that parents of Children who take their own lives because of online bullying or parents of military Cadets who suffer actual bullying will take that well thought out advise to heart and offer that to other victims.
--Chasing--Troy following me to the Coral thread. ILL SON following me to a thread that is long forgotten to me. But you decided to mention it to me not them. Why? So you have your own prejudices regarding women and their lack of Gonads. So now women are less inclined to stand up and argue a case just because they have none? No. But you never meant that did you. Was just a phrase to be used on me. But you saw no harm init it did you? So lets not get into pulling things apart word by word or your own post will become equally “Yawn inspiring”
--no one had trolled you on this thread. You just waltzed in and took aim at someone. That is trolling in its truest form.--you could be right. But since Mentally ILL SON did that to me then he has set a president for me.
-Chasing Ilsen and Troy seems to get you going. Doesn't make you gay, just pathetic.--If standing up to Bullys is Pathetic in your view then you are welcome to it. it would be easy to let them carry on.
--As Troy has shown, this isn't the first time you have attempted to insult someone by calling them gay. --No. He has not done anything of the sort.
Feel free to highlight Troy's homophobic remark.
“Mendocino”@1 likes his shoved in Mendosa !!
What?
May 19th, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@127 & 128
May 19th, 2014 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you the same person or is it a split personality?
mmm. someone seems to have duplicated me. I wonder who?
May 19th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Childish.
Wel it seems that Mendocinovino replied to me in post 127.
May 19th, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But seems he forgot to change his login. A common occurrence amongst trolls.
I rest my case with him now.
Bah ha ha ha ha ha...
May 19th, 2014 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you blew it, Mendo niño Keith vino !!!!
“Voicey” - looks like you got your Socks on the wrong feet !!!
Ho ho, as good as Think and Dover and Surfer !!!
busted
:-D
Ha ha!
May 20th, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes it is interesting which logins are getting duplicated.
May 21st, 2014 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Keith York was supposedly 'duplicated' by Mendocinovino. And Stevie is supposedly being “impersonated” on here and yet he isn't even kicking up a stink. Which he does at the drop of a hat.
So who is who?
Mendocinovino's = Keith York - that's a fact now.
Note the lack of follow up by Keith York. No comments removed. No indignation. Especially after he swung in against my comment to Mendocinovino, but quiet now in addressing Mendocinovino's supposed impersonation.
Mendocinovino = Stevie? Seems so as he is the only other person to have this happen.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/05/16/morales-reveal-that-with-argentine-help-bolivia-is-developing-nuclear-energy#comment326806
Because if someone has found a way to fool the system in creating logins then you have to wonder why they only chose to impersonate Keith York who hardly ever comments and Stevie who seems uncharacteristically quiet about the matter.
And suddenly they all disappear.
...re
May 21st, 2014 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0So Stevie is Mendo and Keith? I had my suspicions for a while now.
May 21st, 2014 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a busy boy he is. Or was!
All three have gone a bit quiet now.
Hah hahaha
Well you can easily see that Mendicinovino replied using the Keith York login and that was it.
May 21st, 2014 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is the same when Stevie supposedly had an impersonator. They both just brushed past it hoping no one would make an issue of it. And that it would be forgotten.
But tell me, if someone managed to post messages using the same login name as you, what would be a natural reaction?
Well first you would complain to Mercopress and have the comments removed.
Second you would say loudly and clearly everywhere possible what had happened. And if Mercopress failed to action it, then you would highlight this inaction.
Some reactions are normal. And some are abnormal. If you can really game the Mercopress system to create identical logins then why in the hell would you impersonate Keith York?
Why not a more prolific poster such as Think or A_Voice or ChrisR or Yankeeboy or even me?
Because if someone did that to me, my first action would be to post an identical message on every single open article with a link to the message explaining that it wasn't me.
I wouldn't just ignore it. That is not a normal reaction.
So far I have only seen two people claim this happened. Funnily enough Mendocinovino and Keith York have disappeared. And Stevie has snuck in and posted a quick message on one thread.
But they are vey quiet.
As quiet as a think went when he did the same thing with Doveoverdover and then Surfer. Though he has now hoped enough time has past to pretend otherwise.
Probably what this person is now doing.
Interesting theory...I have noticed these are the same log-in names and not rough copies...like using a zero instead of an o....
May 21st, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do know one other person that found a way to that particular trick....eh Anglotino....;-)
Do you remember where you were posting im
Oh this will be good.
May 21st, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go on.
139
May 21st, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Skip
...fingers must have caught send...now where was I...
Do you remember where you were posting a whole lot of convoluted posts one after the other with no other poster in between...that was a neat trick....
Not many people know how to do that....yet it appears some do....
How did you do that...do tell us all.....and don't try and deny it otherwise I will have to dig out the thread where you did it.....;-)
I never forget....
(140) A_Voice
May 21st, 2014 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are mistaken.
Anglotino has no part in such underhand activities. If two of his posts appeared consecutively it was because the editor removed the post in between.
There are no “tricks” in the dark arts, only ways, ways of making you talk. Are you familiar with those long rubber gloves vets use to deliver farm animals?
PS Why the tape over the webcam? Bless, you think it helps.
(140) A_Voice
May 21st, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are mistaken.
Anglotino has no part in such underhand activities. If two of his posts appeared consecutively it was because the editor removed the post in between.
There are no “tricks” in the dark arts, only ways, ways of making you talk. Are you familiar with those long rubber gloves vets use to deliver farm animals?
PS Why the tape over the webcam? Bless, you think it helps.
140 Voice
May 21st, 2014 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Do you remember where you were posting a whole lot of convoluted posts one after the other with no other poster in between...that was a neat trick....
Not many people know ”
That's funny, I've been on here longer than your current persona, and I don't recall Anglotino ever doing that.
Certainly if it was as you say, there would have been such a hue a cry going up from the Trolls like yourself, accusing and denouncing, instead of sitting smugly by, as you would have us believe.
It's likely there would even have been queries from side of a Goodness and Niceness, too.
That being said, there have been the occasional glitches in the MP site program that occasionally allowed people to post consecutively, it happened to me twice, and others have remarked thst it happened to them.
I don't think you have a case against Anglotino, not does it look like the Trolls, Mendocino or Keith, have been maliciously duplicated. A victim of his own stupidity or carelessness, more likely.
I would not know from personal experience, but perhaps those having multiple accounts or different logins using the same IP...
141
May 21st, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice try...completely different ID's....
So you remembered my post warning people to put tape over their webcam.....and yes it does work....you should also remember I hitch a ride from others IP address I did mention that also.....;-)
BTW removing a comment doesn't remove the name of the poster..just the comment.
143
Note how Skip is keeping quiet...he knows what I'm talking about and knows fine well I can prove it.....
There were no glitches involved you have just witnessed two other posters doing it...was that a “glitch” also.....
Nice of you to come to his defence but...no cigar.....
Own up everyone ....how many of you out there know how to do this...Anglotino does...;-))))
#144
May 21st, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who would be daft enough to use a webcam EXCEPT for family correspondence ?
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May 21st, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(144) A_Voice
May 21st, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your memory fails you. Sometimes the editor deletes the comment, sometimes he deletes the post entirely. Have you never noticed that? A bit slow eh.
Attempting to hide behind a VPN only makes it easier to find you. VPNs have lax security making it all to easy to follow the breadcrumbs back.
I see you are unconvinced. I really didn't want to bring the Muppet Inquisition to the thread.
Aaaaaaaah the pain!
May 21st, 2014 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not the Muppet Inquisition!
Please stop, make it stop!
I am sorry, I am sorry for all the boring posts.
I am sorry for all the lies.
I am sorry for all the sock puppets.
Please, please make it stop. Forgive me!
I won't do it again.
I am Think, I confess.
You won't see me on here again.
I am no more.
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May 21st, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0aLAS, YOUR COMMENT WAS REMOVED BEFORE i HAD A CHAMCE TO REAF IT.
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May 21st, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot be traced....oh the naivety....and this is not my IP address....a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing indeed. I'm owned and thankfully too dim to realize.
May 21st, 2014 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At least I am still arrogant and boring!
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May 21st, 2014 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is not Ilsen. .......
May 21st, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@152 A_Fading_Voice
May 21st, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would quite like to leave you in your ignorant bliss, but I feel a certain duty to enlighten the less fortunate, even if just a little.
When your browser interacts with the servers that hosts this very page, the server obtains all sorts of data from the “client”, the IP address, the operating system, the screen resolution etc. How else do you think webpages know which language, currency, etc to present you with?
All your VPN does is present a different IP to the webpage. The trail back to you can be followed back to the VPN and through the ISP. It is a two way street.
Bye bye now.
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May 21st, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A_Voice
May 21st, 2014 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Note how Skip is keeping quiet...”
What you may have failed to note was the time of my last post. 12.05PM GMT. I definitely wasn't waiting around 2 hours for your reply.
I am not geo-ambiguous like you. I am quite happy to admit I am in Melbourne. So I posted at 10PM. You replied at midnight my time.
Nice try.
http://instagram.com/anglotino
Anyway you are correct. I have posted multiple posts one after the other to get my point across. I have never hidden nor denied the fact.
But for some unfathomable reason you, who will be pedantic over the pronunciation and origin of a word for days on end, equate this with someone using more than one name on here.
The ability to post consecutive comments is nowhere near the same as posting a comment under a DIFFERENT name. Also I have never disclaimed those comments as they were consecutive and flowed as one long post.
However both Keith York AND Stevie disowned the comments. They CLEARLY state someone else is using their name.
The only posters to EVER have it happen. You posting multiple times on this thread don't count because I know it's you.
You might never forget but I never lie. So you will never trip me up on inconsistencies.
Also Mercopress can remove an entire post. That is why on some threads the replies go out of synch. Reply to comment #22 when it is now #21. So you either do forget or you aren't as observant as you believe.
Anyway Mendicinovino is now claiming it was all part of a psychological experiment using different logins:
http://instagram.com/anglotino
And Stevie is keeping a low profile hoping that everyone will fail to realise what has happened:
http://instagram.com/anglotino
I suggest you all comment freely to them on those threads.
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May 21st, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have failed to note the obvious....
It was a fine example of a poster following his post with another post using the same name....
Something you have just admitted doing, also something that Troy denied you have ever done....
What is different this time is someone duplicating names exactly... for me to now assume that was you I would then have to assume you are both Keith York and Stevie....
I may have considered this a possibly until my name was duplicated and it now appears that I'm replying to myself..I'm not.
Therefore I know it's not you pulling the trick of consecutive posting, but someone using both Stevie's and Keith's name exactly....
It may even be that the post @127 was not Keith York and that his post was @128 and 130.....
Why not explain why my comments are being removed....?
This guy impersonating me is an idiot...forgot the ellipses and using Yankee spellings and the dimwit assumes I use VPN...that is so basic...child's stuff...
...are you reading this idiot....“I ” DON'T HAVE AN IP ADDRESS....Doh!...work it out!!!
ssssshhhh Anglolatino, you are scaring the fish!
May 21st, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0146, 150, 152 A_very_very_quiet_voice
May 21st, 2014 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's that you say?
Speak up laddie, I can't hear you.
155 A_Fake_Voice
“YOU CAN KEEP REMOVING MY COMMENT AND I'LL KEEP REPLACING IT....”
Ah, now I can hear you, but no need to shout. It is so unbecoming, but mayhap very fitting for an angry little troll.
“So tell me Mercopress why would that comment be removed twice...?
In what way is it offensive or inappropriate...?”
Awwww, are they pwicking on you? Diddums. Mayhap they are tired of all the sock puppet activity (pist...empty the cookie jar) emanating from your machine. Or mayhap you are just so boring and tiresome that you have breached the terms of use. Either way MP is unquestionably getting their website in order.
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Now you are just trashing the A_Voice franchise.
156 Skip
Yes, you are probably right and sorry for doubting you. I see now it isn't your work. As for Stevie/Keith, well we all know it is only the Guzz-worm so don't expect anything more than some invertebrate low life wriggling.
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May 21st, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who's Guzz?
May 21st, 2014 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm loving the deflection and attempt to cloud the issue.
May 21st, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A_ Voice
I will clearly state AGAIN for you, I take total ownership of all posts using Anglotino.
Why aren't you being pedantic today?
Stevie and Keith both disowned posts in their own names. As you are now doing.
I didn't. So I will now say again.... slowly..
All
posts
using
the
Anglotino
name
were
posted
by
me
!
As if by magic the Stevie worm surfaces. ;)
May 21st, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0160 A_Lost_Voice
“Do you have anything really to say....”
Have I ever?
All I do is nit-pick and troll. Prove me wrong by pointing to my substantive, on-topic, interesting postings. But in my defence at least I am the original boring troll - you are a wannabe boring troll.
Now move along squatter.
Off my island!
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May 21st, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is this only happening to A_Voice and Stevie?
May 21st, 2014 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's happening?
May 21st, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A Voice has left the building.....
May 21st, 2014 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“What's happening?”
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0God it's like a script here.
Of course you will try to pretend nothing is happening. Is there a sock puppet manual? Because this is always what happens.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/05/16/morales-reveal-that-with-argentine-help-bolivia-is-developing-nuclear-energy#comment326806
You can keep pretending that nothing happened Stevie but here's your post. I quote:
“That's not me TTT”
So was that you? Or were the other Stevie posts you?
And now that you have made me look again, I realise it has happened to Nostrils too.
So now we have the following names with supposed two different people using the name:
Stevie
A_Voice
Keith York
The_Truth_shall_B_Trolld
Mendicinovino
Anyone notice the connection yet?
Anglolatino, i's not possible to post two consecutive posts from the same account. He's probably using blank chars when registering his name.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let him be, it could be fun...
No it's isn't possible to post 2 post from the same account. However you can have to two accounts and swap the logins. As long as you change the original login to “free it up” for use by another login.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0For instance, if I changed my screen name to a different name then anyone could use Anglotino.
It is NOT possible to register a screen name using any combination of spaces to confuse the system and hence have an identical screen name to someone else.
Nice try but that was a FAIL.
Your screenname is unique and tied to your acount.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0An stop using the word fail, you keep slapping your own face...
Your screenname is UNIQUE. However it is NOT tied to your account.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can change it anytime you want. However you will lose it if it isn't being USED by an account.
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May 22nd, 2014 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's so easy to do it when I have the screen name.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Impossible if I don't!
Prove me wrong.... oh that is right, you can't.
FAIL!
Nah, Anglolatino, you are aiming for clouds... Look at A_voice's triple post, two of them within 2 minutes. Means A_voice changed screenname while somebody took it and posted. All in 2 minutes.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Continue though, it's highly amusing to watch you destroy that wall :)
Aah I did it in 1 min.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0FAIL!
“A Voice [in his own head] has left the building.....” a somewhat quieter and humbler little troll.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You run along now!
Hang up that sock.
It wont be missed ;)
Anglolatino
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0You proved me wrong, I had no idea you could do that.
It's you then, shape shifter.
Explains the bating :)
Can only do it with your own screen name Stevie.
May 22nd, 2014 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yet another FAIL.
Obiously, somebody is better than you.
May 22nd, 2014 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will you stop that tic?
Stevie
May 22nd, 2014 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0It amazes me what upsets you on this site.
Now that someone is impersonating you, you aren't upset.
You have now spent hours and dozens of comments attempting to downplay that someone supposedly impersonated you. And yet they got no comment at all.
Human nature dictates otherwise.
Stop failing and I'll stop using FAIL. The ball's in your court on that one.
You've been caught out. You've attempted to ignore. That was natural. You've attempted to deflect. That was natural. You've attempting to confuse. That was natural.
But you aren't indignant. That is definitely not natural.
Why would I worry about what you lot come up with?
May 22nd, 2014 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you can't understand it, lets just say we prioritize differently.
“You've been caught out. You've attempted to ignore. That was natural. You've attempted to deflect. That was natural. You've attempting to confuse. That was natural.”
You got the order wrong.
It started with you getting confused. Natural. You couldn't understand why you were getting ignored. Normal. In a last desperate, deflective move, you set a net to catch me. Amusing.
Fish not hungry.
You may think you are confusing me but you aren't.
May 22nd, 2014 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh well I guess we'll wait for the “false” Stevie to post again.
Will he?
Or won't he?
“won't he”, I guess...
May 22nd, 2014 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed.
May 22nd, 2014 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0This will be downplayed as quickly as possible and then misremembered.
Which is exactly what Think did with Doveoverdover.
It must be in the manual.
I wonder who Mendacious and Keith Pork will re emerge as?
May 22nd, 2014 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0That level of bile must be hard to keep down!
I have noticed one new possible new arrival. Started off all nice and friendly, but now posts random unfocused angry stuff all over.
I am keeping shtum for now. .... we shall see. ..... these people normally end up tripping over their own massive hairy troll feet.
They've all collapsed back into Stevie/A_Voice who took his socks off.
May 22nd, 2014 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was fun.
May 22nd, 2014 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A_Voice_No_More sulks off.
I did warm him @ 147
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/05/13/argentina-satisfied-with-chile-s-renewed-support-for-the-malvinas-cause#comment327788
but heed he would not,
in the sock draw he will rot.
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