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Falkland Islands governor 'disrespectful' towards Argentina; Islanders would be better off under Argentina

Monday, May 19th 2014 - 09:15 UTC
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Argentine ambassador in London, Alicia Castro blasted Falklands Governor Colin Roberts claiming he has been disrespectful towards Argentina, insisted every country is aware that Argentina would never again invade the Falklands and underlined Islanders would be much better off under Argentine sovereignty since, “as all other provinces they could elect their own governor, and not have to live under an envoy from the Queen”. Read full article

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  • boufiewolf

    How long are they gonna perpetuate this stinking pile of dog turd? By sticking two fingers up and claiming they're NOT the belligerent party whom is in the wrong just makes it all seem like playground bullying to me.

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Is this woman for real ? Does she actually believe the crap she is peddling ?
    The Islanders should swop the Queen and governor for a Kirchner clone ?
    I think the referendum answered that question for her.
    What colour is the sky in her universe !

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • zathras

    What a load of codswallop.

    The people of the Falkland Islands do not want to be colonized by Argentina.

    The Argentinians militarized the Falklands when they invaded. including among other things Napalm Bombs and 30 THOUSAND landmines.

    The only reason there are British military there now is to protect the population for aggressive actions by Argentina.

    As for...

    “There's no need for any military presence in the Islands” because the UK “as the rest of the world is well aware that Argentina never again will go to war over the Malvinas Islands”.

    That's all fine and dandy but just words and I think 4 Air Defense Typhoon aircraft are a lot more certain than words from a here today gone tomorrow political appointment.

    Oh as to the ex MP his name is TAM DALYELL, from the LABOUR party.
    And he did not approve of the 1st Gulf war where we kicked Iraq out of Kuwait, or what we did (eventually) to protect Kosovo.

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    The funniest line is her claim that Falkland Islanders would have a better quality of life. Barking mad!

    Remember last time when she was spouting this nonsense and she thought she could win over the Islanders by promising free Spanish lessons? I don't think she even realises how stupid she sounds.

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jaydub

    Oh the irony!

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    The worst liars are the ones who believe what they are saying.

    And it never ceases to amaze me how these Argentine 'diplomats' can be so disrespectful and all they while cry and claim that they are being disrespected.

    How does that work?

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    “Islanders would be much better off under Argentine sovereignty ”

    What is this woman on???? is she for real????

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    “Better off under Argentina” - 'under' would seem to be the operative word.

    Can always rely on this silly cow for a good laugh - just imagine what she was like as a trolly-dolly - probably told passengers that if they want some fresh air to open the windows!!!!

    Consider poor old nostrils etc. - they've got to try and come up with some positive spin on this shite - good luck!

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Point by point.
    “Ms Castro added that the Islanders know very well that without Argentine collaboration or continental links they will not be able to develop hydrocarbons and an oil industry”. Except that the Islanders and the oil companies seem to be planning on doing just that!
    ”The governor is ”being disrespectful towards Argentina arguing that those actions (bullying) are disappointing and undignified for a democratic state and then tells our government should 'improve its behavior'. “ That seems fair enough. Argieland regularly breaches the UN Charter, makes up ”laws“ as it goes along and regularly indulges in illegitimate behaviour. Besides, who has any ”respect“ for argieland?
    ”They like to present us as harassers but the truth is that the British government invaded our Islands in 1833 and forcibly expelled Argentine authorities“. That would be based on the illegal appointment of some clown called Mestivier and his arrival on the Islands in October 1832. Where he was murdered by his ”garrison“ in November. And the British arrived to re-establish our rule on 20 December 1832. Argie rule for a few weeks before there is no lawful authority? Not enough. Try possession after discovery since 1690!
    ”And “in open violation of those resolutions in the Malvinas Islands they are now illegally exploiting our fisheries resources”, and immediately added, “who's doing the bullying, us of the invaders”. It isn't possible to “violate” a non-binding resolution. So you can shove your resolutions up your jacksie, luvvie.
    As to the military presence in the Falklands, Ms Castro who was also ambassador in Venezuela, (2006/2011) argued that Argentina “no longer exists as a war threat for the UK or the inhabitants of the Malvinas Islands”.
    “There's no need for any military presence in the Islands” because the UK “as the rest of the world is well aware that Argentina never again will go to war over the Malvinas Islands”.
    That's nice. So let's see latam destroy all its armed forces!

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    Silly woman; she needs to get a life in the airline industry. Air hostess would be a good first step.

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    ” .. since, “as all other provinces they could elect their own governor, and not have to live under an envoy from the Queen”.

    So, they'd live under a Governor ...... rather than a .... Governor.....

    Hmmm :-)

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lornefirth

    !did they not try a Governor in 82, didn't work out I think this woman is on the LOCO weed . As for (no need for any Military presence ) we just trust you. Are you insane!!!!!!!!

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GALlamosa

    So M/s Castro, under an Argentine administration to whom would royalties and corporation taxes accrue, the Sate Government or the National Government ?

    National Government of course. So you want our money, no surprise there, that is the core aim of all colonial aspirants.

    The really surprising thing is that you think anyone would fall for this crap.

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    “According to Infobae Ms Castro next month will be meeting with former Scottish Labor leader Tam Dalyell, author of the book “One Man's Falklands”, and one of the very few MPs that in 1982 voted against the war following the invasion and 74-day occupation of the Falklands by Argentine forces.”

    I remember him. Young though I was, I recognised him as a traitor even in 1982.

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Live better under Argentina? Hell, the actual Argentinians are living in a country that is slowly going down the drain. Does the British governor tell the islanders how and where they can spend their own money? Does it cut off imports from the real world so that people aren't dying of cancer? Can they buy parts for their cars? Is inflation at 40%? And on and on....

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    The Trolley Dolly out of depth and making silly comments in an attempt to bolster a lost cause.

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CKurze30k

    ”being disrespectful towards Argentina arguing that those actions (bullying) are disappointing and undignified for a democratic state and then tells our government should 'improve its behavior'.“

    All of which are facts not in dispute. You *are* bullying them, and a civilised democratic state *would* see those actions as ”undignified“.

    ”They treat us as if we were subjects from the empire“

    No. They treat you as if you were a civilised country. Pointing out your wrongdoings and asking for civilised conduct is not the same as condescending as if you were a subject.

    ”...but the truth is that the British government invaded our Islands in 1833 and forcibly expelled Argentine authorities“

    No. The British, being the rightful holders of sovereignty over the Falklands, removed an illegal military garrison and invited the civilian populace to remain indefinately. You need to stop lying.

    “...the UK refuses to dialogue despites the 41 UN resolutions urging both sides to sit and negotiate”

    Really? Your previous attempts at ”negotiation“ have included a demand that any settlements end with you being given sovereignty. That is *not* a reasonable precondition of negotiations.

    The UN resolutions also specify that the interests of the legitimate inhabitants of the Falklands are considered. When your diplomat was invited to such a discussion, with some of those inhabitants present to represent their interests, your diplomat walked out. You don't get to claim we're refusing dialog when it's your actions that prevent honest dialog.

    ”they are now illegally exploiting our fisheries resources”

    Again, no. The Islanders have the right to exploit *their* fisheries, something they are doing.

    ”Argentina never again will go to war over the Malvinas Islands”.

    You've lied about everything else, what makes you think we'd trust your word now?

    “who's doing the bullying, us of the invaders”

    Well, since you *are* the invaders, the answer's the same no matter which one is picked.

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    “like the rest of the Argentine provinces they could elect their own governor”

    Okay this is interesting. So the Islanders (apparenty would) have a democratic voice under Argentina. We appoint our own Governor, most likely an Islander. What happens if this Governor and his electorate wish to become independent? Would Argentina allow self-determination? Would they allow the Falklands and its people to do that? I highly doubt it.

    Castro and Argentina really don't understand the situation. As an Islander, there isn't a choice between being British or Argentine. It isn't about where the most benefits come from. It is about who we are and our rights. We are Falkland Islanders and British (in that order) and we decide what we do with our home. That is the most important thing and being a British Overseas Territory we have this right. And it really isn't up for negotiation.

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    the Islanders “would not have a colonial governor named by the Queen” if under Argentine sovereignty....

    Is she implying that the islanders disagree with what the Gov said such that they would have elected a different one much friendlier to Argentina had they been free to do so? Have we imposed on the islanders someone they would electorally reject? If so then let's change that immediately, if not then what is her point exactly?

    Oh, and nice tactic having a go at the Queen - you are bound to win friends internationally with that approach.

    May 19th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ratamacue

    It's time this woman visited the Falklands - with an open mind (if that were possible, which is very doubtful) - to see what the place is really like and what Islanders really think. Has she forgotten the recent referendum so quickly? But at least Falkland Islanders can be comforted by the fact that she has recognised that they exist! Their - Argentina's - vision of the Falklands and what Islanders want for their future is of course understandably impaired as they are forever scraping the bottom of the political barrel.

    May 19th, 2014 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • rule_britannia

    Those of you who actually live the Falkland probably know that the Argentine Air Force probes the air defences of the Falklands once a week by sending some of its few airworthy planes to the edge of the exclusion zone and forcing our lads to take off. Nearly everything Argentine Air Force plans for is connected with reinvading the Falklands. (I have this on good authority before the pro-Argy lobby denies it).

    May 19th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Keyser Soze

    Hello all

    Well I'm a long time reader and first time poster. I marvel at the comments on this site (sometimes through gritted teeth), the sheer ignorance held by a small number on this site are really quite astounding. Now I'm Englishman through and through (although my mother was Flemish and my Father of Irish decent but I was born here), and I certainly won't put all Argentines in a box labeled “things I hate”. I'm at a loss, even they must come to the conclusion that this woman running their country is a liability, she is everything that is bad about humanity and she's now behaving like a 1920 prohibition mobster to keep her in the lavish lifestyle she's become accustomed to, I really hope for the peoples sake she get found out soon other wise these poor people will suffer. Take a look at the latest unfortunate disaster, very unfortunate indeed.....for the Argentine population that is.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-05/argentine-banking-system-archives-destroyed-deadly-fire

    May 19th, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Supposedly the Falkland Islands are part of Tierra del Fuego Province, so their voice would never be heard when voting.

    Australia has a Governor-General appointed by our Queen and my state has a Governor. And believe me Australia always has ranked higher on any measure of democracy than Argentina.

    May 19th, 2014 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    This uneducated piece of m----a is the worst example of womanhood that has ever been devised. She is a piece of s--t who is deserving of no respect at all. And Argentina encourages her by allowing her the freedom to MISrepresent her country whenever she feels the urge.

    What a cow!

    May 19th, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    ”The governor is ”being disrespectful towards Argentina arguing that those actions (bullying) are disappointing and undignified for a democratic state and then tells our government should 'improve its behavior'.“

    If you think what the governor said was bad , Castro, try listening to the sh1t that Gollum regularly peddles.

    ”The governor is ”being disrespectful towards Argentina arguing that those actions “

    Like the Argentine government shows respect to the Islanders by refusing to 'dialogue' with them?

    ”They like to present us as harassers but the truth is that the British government invaded our Islands in 1833 and forcibly expelled Argentine authorities“.”

    History not their strong point is it unless it's fairy tales they recount.

    Request to leave by letter -if that's force it's a weird definition but the overriding reason that the British request for the UP murderer's to leave was carried out was that most of Pinedo's matelots were British born and refused to fight the Brits.

    Why didn't the UPs use South American born sailors?

    Using British sailors and expecting them to fight their own kind-not the brightest of ideas was it?

    May 19th, 2014 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    An “elected” governor? Like General Mario Menendez? I must have missed that election. Come to think of it, can't remember Galieri being elected either.

    May 19th, 2014 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Oh well, yet another little cock-up by Ms Castro.

    File it in the bin as usual.

    May 19th, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    So, correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the FI just have a referendum that decided they wish to remain a BOT, and by implication they voted 98% to retain the 'Queen's' appointed Governor.

    So Miss Air Head Castro. The FI have voted on their choice of Governor, which by their vote of 98% was to accept the Choice of the 'Queen' to provide the governor as they wished to remain for the moment, a BOT. Got that, I can't really make it any simpler, although for you my dear, I think it needs to be explained so a two year old could understand it.

    Did someone from her government not explain that to her, or maybe they just like to make her look totally fuc**ng stupid.

    May 19th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CJvR

    Well it is nice to see that her lobotomy have left her almost functional. She can form coherent sentences, it is just their content which is incoherent.

    “If Argentina had sovereignty over the Islands, they could exploit their oil resources like any other Argentine oil province. They would also have a better quality of life” - LOL!

    The Argie frustration over not being able to steal everything that isn't nailed down has rarely been so painfully obvious. I wonder if they will try to exterminate the Illix just out of spite.

    May 19th, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Erices

    I'm Latin, but I do not understand why still insist on recovering land for over 100 years belong to another country.

    In Chile is very tiring, Peru and Bolivia will insist that the land restored to them, they lost in a war 150 years ago. People living on the land are not interested in returning to Peru or Bolivia .... so incomprehensible stubbornness ..

    May 19th, 2014 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @14 I also recognised Dalyell as a traitor. Unsurprising as he is a scot. Who are virtually all traitors due to their envy and jealousy of a much better country. Fortunately, with any luck, we will soon be shot of them all. Although I would prefer to have them all shot. Most of the scotch are traitors. Drag them back from bankruptcy. Give them money (over £2 quadrillion now owed to England), teach them civilisation, how to dress properly, about “working”. Even give some of them titles, a measure of self-government, not charging for 267 years of free protection and what happens? They want to shove off and steal even more on their way out. Erect the razor wire border fences, plant the minefields, “store” the MBTs at the frontier, round up the illegal aliens, herd them into cattle trucks heading north. Will the scotch figure out how to get aboard and stop the trains before they pass John o' Groats at 90 mph? Of course, Tam Dalyell was up to the usual standard of scotch intelligence. He didn't have any.

    Should we mention what muppetess Castro didn't? That her non-existent argie “authorities” murdered, raped and stole? That only 4 people left the Falklands, the rest chose to remain under British rule? Probably best if Ms Castro bounced her arse up and down on an argie souvenir landmine!

    May 19th, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @26redpoll
    “, can't remember Galieri being elected either”

    Though being a fearless military leader he did say he would (with all Argentines) fight to the last drop of his blood.

    Or was that the last drop of everyone in Argentina except for him?

    Love it as a general how he made a trip to the Falklands before the task force was in range.

    Yet didn't stay to see the British arrive.

    How rude.

    May 19th, 2014 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Really nothing has changed from the Argentines.
    Ms. Castro is just repeating the same lies and half-truths that the argentine public has been hearing from their government for decades, so that in itself minimises the impact her statements have.

    The difference now is, the FIG and the UK Government have woken up and are being vocal about the Falklanders distinct identity, government support for their democratic choices, political issues in the region and Argentine aggression.
    Something they are not used to hearing, but probably no surprise to people like Simon68, CD2, and others.

    May 19th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    This woman is noted for her asinine statements (and for her lack of a real hairdresser). The FCO must have a very strong reason for not declaring her persona non grata.

    Philippe

    May 19th, 2014 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bongo

    No need to militarise the South Atlantic. Just strap Conqueror to a dud cruise missile and launch him at Buenos Aires. His head's so thick everything within a 40 mile radius would be devastated.

    May 19th, 2014 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Comon Guys, you all know that to keep her job as Ambassador to the UK she has to make these statements otherwise she would be back to asking ” tea or coffee one lump or two.I personally think she is doing a fantastic job for the FALKLANDERS as I think most people would recognise the waffle she has to spout.

    May 19th, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #31
    Stupid twat..I think that sums you up perfectly.
    Are you actually English. Why don't you post your rants on the Daily Mail.
    You may wish to check in your history books and note that it was the Scottish Enlightenment which pulled England into the modern world, but again, your malevolent brain is stuck somewhere in the early 1800's because you are incapable of rational thought.
    Dressed in your John Bull outfit and waving the St.George flag shouting death to foreigners...you are a charmer. Enjoy your dream, it ain't going to happen .

    May 19th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    'Falkland Islands governor 'disrespectful' towards Argentina; Islanders would be better off under Argentina' AR Ambassador to the UK, Castro.

    I am 100% convinced that Cristina Kirchner is being disrespectful to the people of Argentina. She has stolen the country's wealth and made a proud state into a poverty state.

    Argentina would be so much better off under the rule of the British.

    May 19th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    “Argentina would never invade the Falklands again.”

    Is that the same type of promise Germany made after world war 1? We will never invade another country, honest! Unless of course they're really asking for it, like Czechoslovakia and Poland. And the Netherlands and Belgium, and France, and Greece, and Yugoslavia, and Russia, and North Africa.

    May 19th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • boufiewolf

    Lep, I think that may have been Hitler before the invasion of Czekoslovakia and his “lebensraum”. Funny that doesn't half sound like CFK.

    May 19th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    This is an extraordinary rant from a clearly rattled, and slightly mad woman.

    Oil production is not only possible, but going to happen. It would be easier were it not for Argentine bullying, threatening to jail an oil exec who sets foot in Argentina, but not much easier. Tankers, once they are full will go wherever you point them, Cape Town most likely.

    The rest of her rant is just as fanciful, The UK were perfectly happy to discuss the islands sovereignty and William hague set up a meeting last year, wich Gollum Timmerman ran away from. The 41 UN resolutions (sic) all state the islanders rights need to be protected..LOL..so they are not invited??

    As for Argentina not invading, we dont trust you, rants like this underline we dont trust you, so our defence remains. As does Argentinas defence for its territory.

    The 1833 house of crap again....can you invade a territory thats only been held for 6 weeks...or are the two sides actually competing for said territory? Certainly none of it is expelling established authorities...LOL

    Never mind Castro...

    May 19th, 2014 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    She is quite honestly certifiable, they jump from one stance to another. It wasn't that long ago that they were ranting that the islanders were not a people? Now they are a people who would be better off under Argentine rule, the only country in the world where your shopping basket goes up in price whilst you're actually doing the shopping!

    May 19th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Evil Colonialist Pirate

    Better off under Argentina? Does this woman think the Islanders are masochists?

    May 19th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    One would suggest that it is Argentina who is being disrespectful, to the Falklanders,

    As a matter of fact, eye think
    Argentine ambassador in London, Alicia Castro ,
    should be booted out of Britain and sent home,

    But as our government insists that we are friends, that is very unlikely to happen.

    May 19th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    @34 Philippe

    If Ambush Alicia represents the 'A' game of the Argentine ambassadorial corps, can you imagine exactly how clueless, undiplomatic and generally downright useless their 'B' game would be?

    May 19th, 2014 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    It matters not, they are so soooooo far behind us in military advancements it must be utterly frightening for them. All that Castro woman and any Argentine has is words, just words.
    HMS Artful is looking pretty mean :-)

    www.baesystems.com

    May 19th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Alicia's job isn't diplomacy as it's commonly understood, her role is histrionic posturing for the benefit of those among the Argentine domestic audience who are dumb enough to fall for it. This is one of the reasons that Argentine diplomacy with respect to the Falklands has been such a colossal failure. After 50 years of whingeing they've never managed to achieve anything more than recommendations for dialogue and peaceful resolution that nobody could possibly object to (except of course Argentina itself, which rejects both). That and a reputation as the nutter on the bus of the world community.

    Such is life without a sense of embarassment, although some might argue that the aim all along has been to inflame and perpetuate the conflict, rather than resolve it.

    May 19th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I have to state that you should all be ashamed of yourselves for being so close minded by Ms. Castro's seemingly sincere offer to improve the islander's quality of life. On several previous occasions, she's proposed frequent direct air service to Buenos Aires via modern jet airliners, improved business opportunities and superb access to food supplies, including superb Malbecs and Argentine beef.
    Sure, there would be a few minor adjustments that might take time to adjust to, but it's obvious that she has only the best interests of the people of the islands in the long run.
    Why does everyone seem to have a mistrust for the Argentine Government?
    Just shameful in my opinion...

    May 19th, 2014 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • boufiewolf

    48 - Maybe because they've told too many porky pies (lies)? ie Malvinas

    May 19th, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Come on Chicureo, pull the other leg.

    May 19th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    Whys everyone getting their knickers in a twist?

    1-Argentina political system doesn´t really want the Islands. If it really wanted them it would take practical steps to achieve its aim rather than acting so beligerantly and constantly sabotaging its hopes. The cause has more worth as a political tool than an acquisition.

    2-Its a job - the gravy train - the politicians get paid to sell an idea.

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    48 Chicureo

    What are the minor adjustments that the Falkland Islanders would have to make ?

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    Personally I am impressed with the way that Castro can decide other people's wants and preferences.
    I'm not sure what to have for dinner tonight - pasta or lamb. I may give the London Embassy a call to find out what I should choose.

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jmackiej

    Greedy grasping snivelling Argentines. Always have been and yes they ways will be.

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    @54 I think you left out the word 'politicians'.
    Please don't tar everyone with the same brush

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    It just so funny....invaded in 1833 and expelled the Argentine authorities.

    Sounds rather grand....so please Mrs Castro tell us more...

    Who was expelled, and how long had they been there?
    What happened to the only one amongst them who had “Argentine authority”?
    Of the civilians on the islands in 1833 what nationality were their two leaders? How many of these were expelled?

    Just these cheeky little facts, Mrs Castro...shows no invasion, and no expulsion of “authorities”

    The rest is laughable...Britain must not criticise Argentina...but Argentina has the following criticisms....hypocritical,cow...lmao.

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    “Falkland Islands governor 'disrespectful' towards Argentina; Islanders would be better off under Argentina”

    God bless this woman!! Each time she opens her mouth, the argentine dream of sovereignty over the Falkland Islands slips further and further away.

    All Governor Roberts did was to say what everyone else was thinking... If it provokes this kind idiotic response from the neighbours then GREAT!! the whole world can see that the islanders are better off without argentina.

    Oh, and by the way, if anyone from La Campora is on here remember this:-

    argentina needs the Falklands way, WAY more than the Falklands needs argentina.

    May 19th, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    What a silly woman! Did she not realize that the islanders do not exist? The “falklandres” do not exist just because they are British in Argentine territory and what they want, feel or think does not matter in the interest of sovereignty. So if the occasional inhabitants of the Malvinas Argentinas Islands will be better or worse with the usurpers or Argentina, nothing matters. Or are they planning a new ridiculous policy of the Menem seduction??

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    49 50 52
    Gentlemen,
    Look at all the advantages offered...
    Tupolev refurbished thrice weekly service with connections to London, as well as the rest of the world connections that will open up the access islanders need to promote business development.
    Subsidized fuel, basic staples and telecommunications.
    Great wine and delicious empanadas.
    Dual citizenship privileges for the interm period.
    Free tango lessons with complimentary Carlos Gardel recordings.
    A stable and strong national currency to replace a dubious FIG Pound.
    No longer being dictated by an eccentric old woman living her summers in a drafty dank castle in Scotland.
    Good Italian style pasta available by airfreight whenever desired.
    An opportunity for the islanders to learn a new obligatory language.
    Argentine soap operas and watching the Bocca Juniors play on live television.
    Speaking of TV: a list of all the channels that will be provided free to islanders:
    http://wwitv.com/television/10.htm
    And finally, full naval protection from the highly effecient and equipped Argentine Armada on any nautical issues.

    May 19th, 2014 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    No one takes any notice of Castro the silly moo, anyway.
    She sounds desperate, l guess she finally recognises that Argentina's “charm offensive” doesn't seem to be working! lol!
    Oi, Conqueror, quit stirring up the Scots.
    The Romans tried that & look where that got them.
    Do you want to give the RGs new allies?
    As Clyde15 says, “are you really English” or are you an agent provocateur?

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  • lornefirth

    Think this is bad . wait till there is a major oil strike ,they ll go balistic!!!!!!

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  • ynsere

    I only wish the Argentine gov't would try a charm offensive on Uruguay. As we don't have four nice typhoons or occasional visits by genuine warships, or even 300 miles of rough seas separating us, they bully all the time. Of course, nobody believes their charm offensives, but it would nevertheless be nice to have one.

    Clyde @ 15 and Isolde @ 60

    Yes, I've often wondered if old Conks is actually an agent provocateur. Occasionally, hwever, once in a blue moon, he does come up with quite intelligent remarks. If he isn't an agent prococateur, he's definitely mental. Do you think he's happy?

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  • BOTINHO

    “ How cheeky can you, Governor Colin Roberts, get ! ”
    “ You disrespect us ! ”

    “ Why you have the effrontery to accuse us of doing what we have actually been doing ! ”

    “ Everyone knows that the Falkland Islanders would be better served under our rule and years of lies and mismanagement. You would be better off if you were to exploit your own resources without the UK ” ( Uh.... strike that )

    “ You islanders would be better off if you allow us to steal any gas, oil, or petroleum distillate profits, as we do here now. ”

    “ You could return to daily flights to the islands from the mainland, just as soon as we figure how to get Aerolineas Argentinas up and flying again ( We would of course add a VAT of only 250 % per passenger, or perhaps each islander to initiate that, but we think it could work. ”¿ Es possible ? ” )

    “ You have to live under the envoy of the Queen, when everyone knows that you would be better served living under the envoy of our very own Queen, Her Royal Highness of the Argentine Kingdom, Christina Kirchner ! ”

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  • Falkland Islands

    @29 I wonder if they will try to exterminate the Illix just out of spite.
    They tried that.

    May 20th, 2014 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • rule_britannia

    @59 “A stable ... currency ” Stable as in 60 year old mare?

    May 20th, 2014 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    @59
    Chicureo.......I thought you were serious for a minute but then I saw you mention Boca Juniors...thanks for the laugh

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  • paulcedron

    it seems the islanders don´t like alicia, eh?
    well, agree with them in this case

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  • Hepatia

    Fortunately the undemocratic situation that presently exists on Malvinas will be rectified when the islands are returned to Argentina within the next 25 years.

    May 20th, 2014 - 04:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Hepatia

    You claimed 25 years ago starting 2 years ago.

    Please update your prediction to 23 years.

    May 20th, 2014 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @37 Clyde15

    You should know by now to ignore Conqueror. He doesn't speak for the majority of English people (every country has their version of the nutter on the bus), and his hate and bile towards just about everyone sums up the type of person he is.

    I too have wondered on many occasions as to whether he is actually British or not.

    @68 Hepatia

    Why doesn't Argentina take it's case to the International Court of Justice? What with your cause being so just and all? I mean the way you all speak of it, it should be a slam dunk verdict, right?

    As for undemocratic government, the Falkland Islands has an older democratic government than ANY country in South America. Most of you don't even know what true democracy is. You live in pseudo-democracies, who have a thin veneer of democracy, but which is tainted by the vote-rigging and the corruption at every level of your government.

    Take a good look at Venezuela. That is Argentina's future, and a future that isn't too dangerous.

    As for Castro's charm offensive, well it's offensive. Too little, too late and far too insincere. They're fooling no one but people like you Hepatia.

    So I challenge Argentina to take it's case to the International Court of Justice. Then you will see just how much support Argentina actually has for it's sovereignty claim...that is NONE.

    Not even from your allies in South America. They pay you lip service only, quite glad that you are rabidly obsessed with the Falklands, which they know that you have NO chance of ever getting. Because whilst you are obsessed with the Falklands it means that you keep your grubby thieving hands off THEIR territory, most of which you also claim erroneously.

    And it doesn't cost them anything except to mouth a few platitudes towards South America's 'nutter' on the bus...Argentina.

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  • RICO

    What is it about Argentines that they lie so blatantly. Is it just the politicians or is it some kind of national trait?

    May 20th, 2014 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Rico @ 71

    National trait, I'm afraid. Generation after generation.

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  • Martin Woodhead

    Its her job shes either following a script or doing what she was sent to do.
    The islanders are happy the garrison less so but at least its not tidworth :).
    Argentina is unhappy so thats a bonus the RAF only scramble out of morbid curiosity

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  • downunder

    “…insisted every country is aware that Argentina would never again invade the Falklands and underlined Islanders would be much better off under Argentine sovereignty since, “as all other provinces they could elect their own governor, and not have to live under an envoy from the Queen”.

    The sheer hypocrisy and farrago of lies, inconsistent arguments and wishful thinking displayed by Castro in this article are breathtaking and reflects very poorly on a woman who purports to represent Argentina in the UK. Unfortunately, she is not alone amoung argentines when it comes to stinking thinking about Britain and the Falklands.
    They must live under a sky of very different hue than the rest of the world.
    Nowhere in her rant does she acknowledge the rights to self-determination by the Falk landers.
    “Elect their own governor” indeed; I don’t think that anybody is going to get knocked over in the rush to take up that offer.

    Go get 'em Governor Roberts!

    May 20th, 2014 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    They don't have to, “ live under an envoy from the Queen”: they choose to do so.

    May 20th, 2014 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    @73 Martin

    I think it's slightly more than morbid curiousity, it's a matter of good neighbourlyness - Given the rather questionable maintenance history of most of the FAA aircraft, it would be a nice neighbourly gesture to be able to give Argentina the exact location should one of their not-harassment-at-all flights develop a FOTS issue.

    May 20th, 2014 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    I didn't think anybody actually read Conquerors posts at all. I scroll, read scroll, read, scroll, see Conquerors name, scroll some more..........

    You know it's going to rabid BS and that it doesn't contribute anything to the debate so why read anything the idiot says? It doesn't represent anything but its own fevered imagination, let it rant away to itself.

    May 20th, 2014 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @59
    “A stable and strong national currency to replace a dubious FIG Pound.”
    Haha, nice one

    May 20th, 2014 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mick23

    She is such a KNOB...!

    May 20th, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @35 That's Brainless Bongo from Bongo Bongo Land, is it? According to a poll I took in the last hour or so, my views are much the same as more than half of Europe. And which particular Bongo Bongo Land are you from?
    @37 Gimp pillock. Don't you like THE TRUTH? At the outset I saw Salmond as a power-hungry with delusions of grandeur intent of ruining scotchland for his own personal aggrandisement. You should get up to date with the “Scottish Enlightenment”, its connection with the “European Enlightenment” and the FACT that it would not have been possible without the union with an England that already had 36 times as much wealth. Enabling scotch “thinkers” to sit on their backsides instead of getting out herding the cattle and sheep, planting the oats and eating them. Glasgow's trade with the American colonies. Impossible without the Union. But don't worry, it'll be back to the oats again soon. If you think we English are going to carry on paying your bills, think again!
    @55 Have you missed the contributions on here from your compatriots?
    @58 Strange how you are terrified of some people that don't exist. Have you kept up with the PROOF that there is NO argie territory east of south america? That you argies finally blew it in 1982? “History” started again in 1982 and you already lost, as you well know. Worry about the underground hangars, the submarine pens with subsurface entrances/exits, the missile silos. Big base, isn't it?
    @59 Thanks for letting us all know you were just joking.
    @60 Isolde Try thinking. When did scotchland start? What was its main “industry”. Clues; not until England had the Danes fully occupied. “Raiding” across the border, much like the Danes. Who did it like to “ally” with? The French. For how many years has scotchland actually “contributed”? About 40. Even sending people south to steal English jobs, houses and so forth. And, as pointed out, wanting to steal more as they leave. Note that “Clyde” doesn't deny any of this!

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  • GeoffWard2

    No, I like Conq.
    He's big and blustery, and - just occasionally - really insightful and erudite.
    I always read him to see which Conq. has turned up.
    I don't believe he is a multiple contributor using the one tag (like many South American posters); but he may have different personalities depending on the time of day & alcohol intake (like the bipolar KFC).

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  • downunder

    #68 “Fortunately the undemocratic situation that presently exists on Malvinas will be rectified when the islands are returned to Argentina within the next 25 years.”

    The great Lost Malvinas dream:
    Hepatitis says they will be ‘rectified’ within 25 years,
    Hectoring Hector reckons that the Falklands will “belonga Argentina” within 50 years,
    Most of the dreamers aren’t prepared to predict a time but simply say: “one day”
    Someday, one day, but why not now?
    If Argentina is not prepared to prosecute its arguments before a properly constituted jurisdiction right now, what hope have they got as even more time passes? Do they think that their case will strengthen with the passage of time? If anything, as more research is done and more precedents emerge, their case will weaken further along with their dream of ‘one day’ owning the Falkland’s.

    Today it is no longer a bilateral argument between Britain and Argentina, a third party has emerged, the Falkland Islanders themselves and, as much as Argentina might protest, their case is enshrined in the UN principles of self-determination, freedom and democracy for all.

    So Argentina continues to say “someday, one day” while today it continues to be a loser. Like an afflicted addict who promises himself to ‘reform, but not today.’ Argentina clings to their lost cause and appeals to others to cure her of her addictions.

    May 20th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    The way things work here is if the “governor” is not in the party associated with the president, they get nothing from the Federal Government. She hands out money only if you are kissing her ass. Period. When driving from Mendoza to the province of San Luis, you suddenly find the highway has lighting!! Imagine...and it is a province whose governor isn't kissing cfk's ass.

    May 20th, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @48 Chicureo

    And CT scanners?

    May 20th, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    What a dishonest lying tink that Castro midden really is.

    May 20th, 2014 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @58

    Jose Malvinero

    who cares what the occassional occupiers of a corner of South America--calling themselves Argentines think...as they inhabit native American land.

    sadly, your claim on the Falklands is untrue, but by your own logic you have no claim on Argentina.

    you poor dumb fool.

    May 20th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @53 If you ring her at the embassy and given her previous employment as an air hostess, I think the choices are chicken or beef unless you've pre-ordered a Kosher, gluten-free or vegetarian meal ;-)

    May 20th, 2014 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Cognitio

    Generally I find land grabbing Latin thieves quite disrespectful.

    Also I think on the whole Argentina would probably be much better of if run by the Falkland Islands.

    May 20th, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    They say,
    A thief will never take you to court, to claim what he knows is not he's to take
    so would rather threaten and intimidate you instead,

    unless any of you argy island stealers know any different.

    May 20th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    The Ambassador to the Court of St James says there is no need for a garrison because the whole worl knows Argentina would never use force again.

    Meanwhile, the Argentine Defence Minister is on record stating that the garrison is the only thing preventing them from using force again.

    Confusing! Isn't it?

    Think I will believe the Minister, better safe!

    May 20th, 2014 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Alicia Castro wouldn't know the truth if it were staring her in the face. She is the laughing stock of the Diplomatic Corps in London. Dreadful woman!

    May 20th, 2014 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 81 GeoffWard2

    I agree about Conqueror (he doesn't like to be called “Conq”.

    He has berated me in the past but that small twinge doesn't match the joy I get from the soaring intellect when he does come off whatever he seems to be on and really takes the argument by the throat and shakes the life out of it.

    And if people can't rebuke the comment(s) factually then posting back just strengthens his position as it does to any other situation like that.

    May 20th, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    92
    WTF...?
    Why don't you stop treating his dick like a lollipop...
    Conq is a xenophobic, homophobic, bigoted racist EDL fanny...
    I'd kick his geriatric, lard, keyboard warrior arse back into the 18th century, where he belongs...if I could find him...

    May 20th, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @93A_Voice,
    Don't you know how to find him, Voicey?
    And l agree with ChrisR.
    Conqueror is the sort of bloke that you send in first to pulverise the opposition.
    The rest of us mortals follow in his wake, mopping up.
    lf his physical shape matches his rhetoric, he'd be the rugby forward or the lead tank in an armoured division.
    Some of his posts are offensive, true. But other posts make sense.
    And some of his posts are quite funny,
    My kids find his ramblings, hilarious.
    Anyway he only says that we should do to the Argentines what they have openly stated on these pages what they would do to us.
    Leave him be, he probably keeps them in a state of acute apprehension! lol!

    May 20th, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    94 lsolde

    “Conqueror is the sort of bloke that you send in first to pulverise the opposition”

    Well, when they start looking for a replacement for Governor Roberts, Conqueror will get my vote!!

    If I may quote Field Marshall Montgomery at this point and say:-

    “I don't know what they do [HE DOES ] to the enemy, but they [ HE ] scares the living daylights out of me”

    May 20th, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Conqs is an idiot and I agree with A_Voice's description.

    Anything good that he does write is lost in the drivel and who the hell knows who he is replying to with his continual insistence of not using names. Hepatia is just as annoying in that respect. And her posts make just about as much sense as Conq's do.

    You can't berate Nostril's for hate filled bile and rants about and then so easily let Conq off for the same actions.

    May 20th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Livingthedream

    Well.. It's kind of true. The Argentine occupation in 1982 was the best thing that could have happened to the FI. No one but them and Argentina knew or cared who they were. Not even the Brits cared before. Now everyone knows and they are and their progress is a direct result of being under Argentina So, Ms Castro is right at least in part.

    May 20th, 2014 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Briton has Conquerer , Argentina has Nostrills.

    Lets call it even, we both have our crazy goat Fu*king loons.

    Better watch our or we will rescind Alica Castors passport so you guys will be stuck with her in London. We don't want her back.

    May 21st, 2014 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @59

    Like your style.

    May 21st, 2014 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    Look at that guy's face in the photo. What hair dyer will use the fool?

    May 21st, 2014 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Any news on her BBQ? The truly important questions were never answered.

    Is this a distraction technique?

    May 21st, 2014 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    José Malvinero

    That's not a guy. That's Alicia Castro, your ambassador.

    You should be nicer. You'll end up with La Campora knocking on your door in the middle of the night.

    May 21st, 2014 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Who is the fool?

    He is sitting in the islands, commenting about them.

    Your sitting in the UK slagging them and the Brits off.

    And he is the fool????

    Hilarious!

    May 21st, 2014 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @100
    “What hair dyer will use the fool”

    Looks like he's the hair dryer and Argentina can look forward to being challenged on their fairy stories.

    May 21st, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    93
    A-hole is a xenophobic, racist, bigoted Scot Nat fanny...

    thats more accurate

    May 21st, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    I mean the idiot pictured of below.

    May 21st, 2014 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    I like racing...stupid Monkey...

    May 21st, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_Truth_shall_B_Trolld

    F.U all.

    May 21st, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #80
    C*** -- Fill in the missing letters clue One is rude.
    You wouldn't know the truth if it was preceded by a band playing Dixie.
    I have decided NOT to stoop to your abysmal level by having a go at you using indelicate language.
    It is much more effective letting you hang yourself.
    You advocate the mass murder of all Argentinians, including women and children by the most painful method you can devise. You also wish the same on the population of Scotland. Think about that, what does that tell us about you ? You can only be an escapee from Broadmoor - a prison for the criminally insane.
    Instead of hiding on this site, why don't you post these thoughts in the daily press under your real name.
    Sorry, that would take courage, something singularly lacking in your moral fibre.

    As for your ridiculous nom-de-plume, it's an insult to the RN submariners to belittle them by comparing yourself with their exploits.

    Bye for now, SWALK

    May 21st, 2014 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @Clyde15,
    SWALK,
    Thats on the back of a lot of my grandad's wartime letters that mum & l found.
    Also BURMA, and we've worked out that its not the country, lol!
    My favourite is FUBAR. Still makes me giggle.

    May 21st, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    BURMA?

    I got the other two. Go on give us a clue Isolde.

    Pretty please!

    May 21st, 2014 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A_Voice

    Be Undressed/Upstairs Ready My Angel

    May 21st, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Ha ha.

    v good.

    Thanks

    May 21st, 2014 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy Scott the spark

    Bum. ur my acquisition?

    May 22nd, 2014 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @94 Isolde

    Conquerer is the LAST person you would send anywhere. He's all mouth and no trousers, very brave and angry from behind his keyboard, but would be unable to follow through on any of his delusions.

    When I 1st came on this site he always said that if HE wasn't so 'frail', 'infirm' and 'old' then he would've joined the Armed Forces.

    Then one day I discovered him boasting about his military service. I called him out on that, being ex-military myself, and the one thing people who have served cannot stand is a WALT. And that is what Conquerer is, a Walter Mitty, a wannabe.

    So he expresses his bile, racism and hatred through this forum, because that is all he can do. He's a bully, and like all bullies the minute anyone stands up to him, he runs away.

    He certainly isn't the man anyone wants on their side. I certainly wouldn't want to serve or fight beside someone who talks about killing and murdering innocent men, women and children so blatantly with such a blasé attitude. They tend, if given the chance, into something akin to Nazi concentration camp guards, with no regard for life, law or basic human decency.

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  • GeoffWard2

    There's always a place in the 'cloud' for a heady mixture of Walter Mitty, Colonel Blimp and Don Quixote. Much better to praise these web-outliers when their argument hangs together, and to remind them of 'good taste' when they go beyond the pale.
    Better to have Conq. than the total fabulist or the genuinely disingenuous.

    May 22nd, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @115 LEPRecon,
    You are of course correct.
    lts just that most of his posts are so ridiculous that one has to laugh.
    Maybe l have a weird sense of humour.
    l think if one was actually there & he started acting & talking like he does, that he would have to be pulled into line.
    lts not so much his personal attributes, its some of his projected actions that l agree with.
    However, having said all that, with some types of people(enemies) his methods would be the only thing that they understand.
    Look at the constant provocations by the Argentines & the Spanish as regards Gibraltar.
    lf we shot down a few Argentine aircraft that constantly provoke us or the RN sank a couple of Spanish boats that invaded Gibraltarian waters, l'll bet London to a brick that these incursions would come to a screaming halt.
    lts our weak, half-hearted responses that encourage bullies.
    “Oh, don't do that” means that they'll try harder to upset you, whereas a bloody nose will make them back off & cringe.
    l don't think that we'll have any peace until we get real.
    @111 ilsen,
    Yes A_Voice is correct.
    Be Undressed (and) Ready My Angel.
    Thats my (English)Grand-dad!

    May 22nd, 2014 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @117 Isolde

    ooh-err misuss!
    Your Grandad sounds a right old character. Brilliant!

    May 22nd, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #110
    How about Alan Bennet's NORWICH in his sending a telegram skit
    Nickers off ready when I come home !

    May 22nd, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • F0rgetit87

    114

    oooooooooooo.....love to

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  • ilsen

    I agree Isolde that the UK should take a more aggresive approach.

    If the UK shot down the odd Argentine military aircraft that was sent on a provocative mission there would be some International consternation for a few days.

    Then silence.

    As all the truly powerful countries in this world re-asses their position, realise that they have nothing to gain by supporting Argentina and simply move on to other issues.

    The 'World' would notice, then ignore. Argentinian Government would get a bloody nose and shut the feck up.

    I recommend an armed, killer response in future.

    It is the only way they learn.

    Which is proven.

    May 22nd, 2014 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Ilsen @ 121

    I see your point, but perhaps it would be more humiliating for CFK to force any trespassing Argentine aircraft to land at MP. Send the crew back loaded with gifts and camarederie and flog the aircraft at public auction.

    May 23rd, 2014 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @122 ynsere

    hmm... I understand your thinking on the 'soft-power' approach but unfortunately, (and I do think it unfortunate), the current regime in Argentina would play it as; “oh look, we got a military aircraft in The Falklands, look we landed there! look at us! look there is a photo, look, they are weak, they are 'giving-in!”.
    They would 'media-spin' it as an advantage. Only the indoctrinated in Argentina would be fooled, the rest of the world would laugh at them.
    However, such is the indoctrination locally that this would only serve to support Kistina and her Klan.
    There is no need to humilitate the honourable service personel either, who are simply doing their job. With obselete aircraft and ships that sink in port, whilst the Army has to carry out civilian-control measures because the Police are on strike, I think they feel humilited enough already.
    Krastina keeps the military under-funded becaused she fears them.

    So for me, nice idea, but no.

    Stand firm. Eventually the economics WILL DESTROY HER.

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  • Don Alberto

    In any court of justice, Alicia Castro can claim protection because of serious mental illness.

    May 24th, 2014 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    Is Argentina due any respect ?

    May 24th, 2014 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Clyde @ 125

    Not much at present.
    In Uruguay, gov't and population are rapidly coming together in their manifest dislike of Argentina's current gov't and their recent behaviour.
    There are more and more messages to the editors of major national dailies for re-establishing traditional ties with the Falklands and the UK. People are even starting to call the islands “las Falkland”, despite pronunciation difficulties.

    May 24th, 2014 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Interesting that she only talks of the Argentine “authorities” being expelled.

    May 24th, 2014 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @127

    And she doesn't mention the British sailors who worked for Pinedo (the majority by far of his crew) who didn't stay. The same sailors that refused to oppose Onslow.

    Why if they were officially 'Argentine' didn't they fight?

    May 24th, 2014 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    “Ms Castro added that the Islanders know very well that without Argentine collaboration or continental links they will not be able to develop hydrocarbons and an oil industry” ?????? Is she insane ? the oil industry is ALREADY being developed in the Falklands.
    She' be better off if she had a few bbq's at the London Embassy and stuck a nice fat 'chorizo' in her mouth....then at least the crazy cow wouldn't be able to put her foot in it as well.

    May 24th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    126 ynsere

    Didn't the Uruguay government send a delegation to the Falklands with a view to establishing some trade and exchange links with the islanders???

    I'm sure there was a story on here celebrating the fact that the delegates liked what they saw and everyone was looking forward to an increase in trade / tourism from Uruguay.

    May 24th, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Too old @ 130

    True, but I think it must heve fizzled out. I'm afraid I don't really know. I wonder if the Uruguayan gov't set up obstacles? The Frente Amplio didn't allow congressman Jorge Pozzi to go, they practically yanked him off the plane.

    May 25th, 2014 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Politicians always 'follow the money'

    Hopefully in the best interests of the people they represent, not just to line their pockets.

    The hard truth is that if the Falklands start producing Oil the Uruguayan Gov will start making overtures to the British, because this will be in their best National Interest.
    Nothing to do with anything else, just 'real politik'.

    End of Story.

    They will hang out Argentina to dry in the wind if they have the chance to advance themselves.

    As they should.

    Chile will be onboard.

    The local South American political dynamic will change for good.

    Unless Argentina gets with the process now, it will fade away.

    May 25th, 2014 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Ilsen @ 132

    You may well be right.

    May 25th, 2014 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @133 ynsere

    I do believe that once Cristina and the K-gang have gone and the oild starts flowing in the Falklands we will see some big changes. The Argentine population want change and are sick of false promises. There are thousands of Argentines in London and they all say the same;
    “there is nothing at home, I must leave my family and come here to make a future for my kids”
    If asked if they would prefer to do it at home, they say;
    “of course, I love my country, it is beautiful, but impossible to make a life there”.

    Every. Single. Fucking. Time.

    Same answer.

    Lovely people. Just desperate for change.

    May 25th, 2014 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Ilsen @ 134

    I know you're right. Plenty of vocally unsatisfied Argentines in Punta del Este, too. The trouble is that the array of possible candidates to be the next Argentine president is not what you might call first class. My favourite is Elsa Carrió. put I believe her following is near the 3% mark. The immense majority of Argentines are simply not politically sophisticated: they will fall for a populist time and time again.

    I hope the Falklands are successful with their petroleum venture, but they must be aware that this would bring problems as well as income. I believe in their ability to handle matters wisely. I don't think any islander would ever fall for a populist of whatever stripe.

    May 25th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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