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Argentina: CFK returns to the fold: attends Tedeum and read Francis de Assisi Peace prayer
President Cristina Fernández, CFK, addressed on Sunday the crowd which had gathered in the historic Buenos Aires Plaza de Mayo to mark the anniversary of Argentina's May Revolution, calling on those present to remember all the people who helped create an independent nation. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI hope they checked that it was a real prayer and not one made up by the casa rosada
May 26th, 2014 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure it was tedium.
May 26th, 2014 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK has gone to remarkable lengths to tie herself to the Church.
Multiple visits with the Pontiff and recently, a letter “delivered in the usual manner”, which the Church denied sending, and then agreed, but it was then an informal email - now this grandstanding.
Why ???
“thousands of militants”
May 26th, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's a pretty loaded description.
Funny! an Argentine, no doubt a lovely man, becomes Pope and she suddenly finds religion.
May 26th, 2014 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 This old witch will do anything for votes so she can continue her stealing spree.
May 26th, 2014 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whats next La Campora as security at church events?
She uses National events as campaign rallies.
The Okupas celebrating their fabricated state. Where are the Indians?
May 26th, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. Where there is error, may we bring truth. Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. And where there is despair, may we bring hope”.
May 26th, 2014 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is this what KFC said - no - This is what Margaret Thatcher said when she won the General Election in the UK in 1979 - irony, oh irony!!
@2 Yes. I thought, as a Roman Catholic ritual, it was a Te Deum.
May 26th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think she is very wise to seek religeon. There's not much else left.
May 26th, 2014 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Pope and the Catholic Church have become a useful crony and tool of the government just like they were the useful tools of the military junta... You can’t dialogue with dictators because that is what they are dictators!!!!
May 26th, 2014 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess that if you are anti nazi that makes you a extremist as well…. Sigh, poor Argentina…. So close to God and so far away from common sence and integrity.
Sig Heil! Good Morning/Bonjour my French and British Volk.
May 26th, 2014 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How is the establishing of the FOURTH REICH proceeding in your countries? I hear you guys took one big step yesterday!
I hear there will be Jew/Immigrant pot roast this summer?
Ahahahah Toby, as for a fascist Nazi state, Argieland is already there! You have a female dictator, a Goebels like failed foreign minister and your own version of the brown shirt SA, la Campora!
May 26th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps you should be offering fs a few tips? Seig heil!
@ #9, but not without a little glamorising shedding of tears. All a fascade. The day of political reckoning will get her, and not necessarily the Good Book.
May 26th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems to me that Argentina knows far more about fascism than the UK and France put together - except fighting it of course. When it comes to fighting fascism SA turns and runs, with Argentina out front.
May 26th, 2014 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and it's sieg heil not sig heil!
Why would we fight fascism? That took place in Europe my dear Benighted, nothing to do with us. I certainly wouldn't give my life for an EUian who thinks he is superior to me. That would be ridiculous.
May 26th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 015 Nostril-niño
May 26th, 2014 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I certainly wouldn't give my life for an EUian who thinks he is superior to me. That would be ridiculous.”
Well... that's right, you didn't , but you then asked them to live with you, in exchange for a share of stolen Jewish gold, Biro pen patents, and other inducements.
THE HARD FIGHT FOR EQUALITY.
May 26th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its' always so good to go to plaza de mayo for every national celebration, unfortunately i couldn't find my partners from movimiento evita, because the square was too crowded, then it was imposible to look for someone. I know that some misserable people who often manifest their opinions here, will invalid what i say, just because i am an activist of kirchnerism, in fact, i have no doubt that instead of making serious critics to the falencies of c. f.k's government, they will continue to make once and again the ignorant and reactionary comparisons that they usually do, among dictatorships, fascist governments, and c. f. k's government. If any of those ignorants lived under the state terrorism that we suffered in different moments since 1930 untill 1983, they would be much more responsable with their opinions, anyway i hope that neather them, nor anybody else never lives under criminal dictatorships, as we did in the past.
I would like to analize something very important that cristina said in her statement, she said that when she was a young activist in the 70's, social inclusion wasn't a challenge for the country, in fact, they fought against man's explotation. It shows that the social decline that we had since 1976, when the last dictatorship started implementing the neoliberal economic model, was terrible. Unfortunately, a great man like president raul alfonsin couldn't dismantle the legacy of the dictatorship in economic terms.
Beyond the great social inclusion that argentina has experimented since 2003, it's evident that it has been absolutly insufficient, that's why, whoever wins next year, must know that arg.'s biggest challenges are, social inclusion and equality. Beside, even if an ultra neolibral party wins the lections, everybody knows it won't be able to dismantle the legacy of kirchnerism in social terms, because people have already empowered of all the achievements that we have had since 2003, which is wonderfull.
“I know that some misserable people who often manifest their opinions here,…..”
May 26th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“they will continue to make once and again the ignorant and reactionary comparisons that they usually do, among dictatorships, fascist governments, and c. f. k's government”
I love the way in which axel always tries to reply or talk about me allegorically without even mentioning me.
You may be older than I am but that only makes you an old idiot. It doesn’t make you wiser.
Axel; you completely lack the intellectual capacity and understanding of concepts to sustain an argument with me. So dont even bother.
There has never any social uptrend increase. There is only subsidized poverty which is still poverty and fake statistics the rest is all in your head. There is more % of poor than there were in those disastrous and cursed 1990s. In fact Kirchnerist GDP per capita has always being well below Menem’s GDP per capita.
“Seems to me that Argentina knows far more about fascism than the UK and France put together”
May 26th, 2014 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course. Peronism IS fascism.
@17 Shut up, dickhead. Just remember that you're a cretin. What WILL you do when Kirchner is in jail? Certainly where she deserves to be right now. Will you go with her? Or will you suddenly become a “real” democrat?
May 26th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Peronism is far more populism, clientelism and nepotism than 1940s fascism but its still a form of fascism.
May 26th, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Axel, can you goosestep, can you raise your right arm in salute. If you cant, you shoukd join young Toby and get some practice, it will be mandatory. But, theres a silver lining 200 Pesos for your vote!
May 26th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cabeza,
May 26th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 01940s fascism includes nepotism, clientelism and populism in large quantities.
Take a look at Strasser Brothers works, its easy not to compare them with peronists, specially “left-wing” peronists.
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May 26th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes but the original fascism in the 1940s was far more nationalistic and it had at least a sense of ultimate ideology and not a brand ideology. As cruel and disastrous they were they manifested in forms of imperialism and war they didn’t have the purpose of “expoliación de estado”.
1945-1955 Peron’s first and second gov’t and Kirchenerist first, second and third gov’t 2003- had a logic of power and that is what became the logic of the ever larger State.
Both governments and that of Chavez in Venezuela had in common; the complete pillaging and sacking of the country’s wealth and production to massively enrich the high political class and purchase the votes of the masses consolidate the grip on power and enable structures that remain under their control even after they lose the executive power. (Even in a way Axel arg admits this in the end of his post, though he sees it in a completely brainwashed way).
TMBOA is getting close to the church for one reason only: to escape the retribution of the mob and the wire noose which she truly and utterly deserves.
May 26th, 2014 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think of all the deaths that have resulted from her blockade on ALL imports including drugs not manufactured in Argentina.
She deserves the noose for those alone.
calling on those present to remember all the people who helped create an independent nation
May 26th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps the plastic Barbie doll,
should remember all the people who would like to create an independent nation called The Falklands,
yet cannot because of argentine aggression , threats , abuse , intimidation , attempted blockading , despicable and abhorrent lies to everyone who will listen,
just an independent thought.
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May 26th, 2014 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Original fascism was as nationalist, corrupt and ideologically empty as peronism. Fascists were philosemites and anti-semites, anticapitalists and pro-capitalists (but always anti-liberal), christians and anti-christians, religious and atheist, europhile and anti-Europe, all depending of the trend and needs of the moment.
Peronism doesn't have “expoliacion del estado” as a purpose. It's something that happens because of the inherent logic of a fascist government. Italian fascism, as well as franquism, salazarism and other fascist government were terribly corrupt. Maybe they were better in administrative terms since they ruled smaller countries, but the principles are pretty much the same.
Peron was a full-scale fascist, a true heir of Mussolini. Their so called “left-wing” followers are just left-wing fascists like the Strasser brothers (yes, there was a “left-wing” branch of fascism). The same could be said about his much admired comrade and predecessor Getulio Vargas, but Vargas was a little bit more elightened man (he was also a political thinker influenced by Auguste Comte's positivism) and a little bit more progressive, specially when he allied with the Communist Party. But he was a sort of fascist too. Thank God there are no followers of his ideas now.
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