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Argentina is the most protectionist country of the region” claims Astori

Thursday, May 29th 2014 - 06:26 UTC
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Uruguay's vice-president Danilo Astori said that Argentina is “the most protectionist country in the region” and again questioned the effectiveness of Mercosur arguing that Uruguay can't forget the region but can't be expected to remain idle. Read full article

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  • Forgetit87

    Comment removed by the editor.

    May 29th, 2014 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @1 Oh dear, no comment on the above article, solidarity in Latam HaHa.Reference your link. Yes there are rascists in the UK, as in ALL COUNTRIES, but if someone wanted to see a white doctor surely that is their perogative.

    May 29th, 2014 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    So what's new; a recirculation of Argentina's protectionist position. At least the Uruguayns are now becoming bold enough to say so.

    May 29th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Wow there's racists in Britain?

    Who would have guessed? Guess Britain is just like every other country.

    May 29th, 2014 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    I think post n01 was designed to detract from the content of the article, namely Uruguay thinks Argentina is a right pain in the arse. We concur!

    May 29th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    3 words to respond to the title of this article:
    no shit, Sherlock

    May 29th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #1
    Did you actually read the heading of this article ?.

    Argentina's attitude to the Falkland Islanders is blatantly racist...any comment on this ?

    May 29th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    And the protectionist policies are ruining the country. Bad enough that the auto industry is falling on its face, and today an article about the auto parts industry. Forty to one hundred percent increases and prices, and long long delays in getting parts. Most are absorbed by the centre of the universe (Buenos Aires) and few even get to the provinces. More business closures and more unemployment...thank you cfk.

    May 29th, 2014 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @2 And where are you from? “rascists”? “perogative”?
    @4 Very few “racists” in Britain. On the other hand, WE don't “like” jihadis. WE don't “like” scrounging migrants. WE don't “like” argies. There are few, if any, differences between the three. Actually, we don't like Urineguayans much anymore either.

    May 29th, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dam

    Clyde15, To your question.
    The Argentinian government, and also all Argentinians(and most countries, and people of the world), do not think about the people that live in the Malvinas Islands. The tendency is to think more about the land that was stolen by another country in 1833 by force. That country, Britain with long an infamous history of pilliage must give back those territories to the lawful owner, that is the issue here. I hope, that answer your question. The people of the islands can stay there, if they wish to do that, after all they are Argentinians, born in Argentina.

    May 29th, 2014 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Argentinais indeed the most protectionist country in SA.

    It's not a bad thing.

    Astori saying so is no news either.

    There's a reason the MPP is the biggest actor within the FA, not the socialists...

    May 29th, 2014 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @9
    You sound very rascist to me. In the UK other nationalities are tolerated at best as can be seen from your comments. There are rascists in ALL COUNTRIES is what I said.

    May 29th, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    @10 Dam Fool

    Try reading some history then you will discover that 1833 was a loooonnnngggg time ago and what you are indoctrinated into believing didn't happen!!!!!!

    Pinedo’s report made aboard the schooner Sarandí on 16 January 1833 after returning to Buenos Aires, AGN Sala VII, legajo 60, p. 22: “los habitantes que quisiesen voluntariamente quedar, que serian respetados ellos y sus propriedades como anteriormente…”.

    May 29th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tik Tok

    Mujica's position = softly softly, however nothing good happens, and he looks weak.
    Astori's position = tell it like it is, however nothing good happens, and he gains respect from others.
    The more people that are up front about the crazy Argentina crap that gets rolled out the better (especially in Mercosul who are supposed brothers in arms - Brazil should let them have it too but are meek). People paying lip service to that crazy economy are extending the misery of Argentina and Argentinians who are being sold down the river by their control freak President. Note trolls there is no sustainability about her policies, the citizens of Argentina will suffer unfortunately as hard decisions will have to be made after Kirchners rule to right the sinking ship.

    May 29th, 2014 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #10
    I disagree with that statement on ownership of the islands.
    As to, “ That country, Britain with long an infamous history of pilliage must give back those territories to the lawful owner.”
    The lawful owners already live there as it is legally a BOT.
    Your antecedents, the Spanish, how did they acquire the bulk of Central and South America? Were they invited in by the indigenous populations who freely donated their land to them? The Spanish raped, pillaged, murdered and colonised their lands. Have they given it back.........NO !

    However the question was about racism by Argentina against the Falkland's population. The fact that YOUR posters on this site have called them , squatters (an insulting term), shit (more insulting), and rubbish can only be construed as racist remarks.

    i HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

    May 29th, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Perhaps mr 10,
    has quietly forgetting the Spanish conquests,
    and the argentine conquests.

    still,
    As long as the nasty British pirates are blamed for everything,
    that's ok then..

    May 29th, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    It's election year in Uruguay folks and Astori, the crook or complete imbecile depending on your view over the Pluna affair, is anxious to keep his job.

    He knows whatever people from Uruguay say it will be ignored at best or used to garner an apology out of Uruguay by The Dark Country. Remember “No Money Pepe” mentioning the boss-eyed one and TMBOA threw all her Botox out of the pram: and then the weak willed and feeble minded idiot gave a PUBLIC apology when all he spoke was the truth?

    Still it makes TMBOA look strong when she and her numb-nuts bully a country with just 3.28 million men, women and children (inc. us two).

    May 29th, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @10 Dam

    ”The tendency is to think more about the land that was stolen by another country in 1833 by force2

    Asking a bunch of murdering, raping mutinists (many of whom you might remember were executing by a BA firing squad) to leave by a paper letter was use of force?

    The reason Pinedo's men did not resist Onslow was because most of them were not South Americans but implants born in Britain.

    You seem to think the South American born settlers who were not expelled from Port Louis were British implants and Pinedo's sailors were South American because they were born in Britain?

    Your reasoning is very odd amigo.

    May 29th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    “Yes there are rascists in the UK, as in ALL COUNTRIES, but if someone wanted to see a white doctor surely that is their perogative.”

    Translation:
    “Yes there are rascists in the UK, more so than in other countries, and golfie counts himself among them.”

    May 30th, 2014 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    ChrisR @ 17

    My reading is that in view of the upcoming internal elections Frente Amplio leaders have decided to finally find out what the man in the street thinks, and Astori has discovered that Uruguayans don't like Argentines, especially CFK. Perhaps he'll also note that a high proportion of us prefer Britain and the Falklands to Argentina.
    Whether he'll remember all this if he's reelected, I don't know. Probably not.
    If he's not reelected perhaps he'll be charged with fraud related to Pluna.

    Seems the Blancos may well give the Frente a run for their money.

    May 30th, 2014 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You mean the Rosaditos, right?

    We'll even might have to settle for Vazquez just to keep the pinky ones where they belong...

    The only reason there might be any suspense is because people from the MPP thinks the FA is way too soft...

    May 30th, 2014 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #19
    You advocate a blockade of the Falklands so that the inhabitants would starve to death and you have the brass neck to call others racist !

    May 30th, 2014 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    I advocate treating people how they treat others, and your country did that to Iraqis; how can you protest having that done to yourselves?

    May 30th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dam

    I really do not understand why so much hate here, everybody calling everybody else a racist, we are running a competition. The people in the Malvinas Islands are Argentinians as much as anybody else in Argentina. The British are not prefect we all know that, Britain has many problems, and Argentina also. As I understand it, most people in Argentina as in many new world countries come from many places. Stop all this hate please!

    May 30th, 2014 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #23
    Fine, your country invaded the Falklands so by your standards the UK should invade Argentina and treat the Argentinean people they way that you treated the Islanders. Hold guns to their heads, lay land mines indiscriminately and take away their freedom?
    #24
    You wonder why “hate” surfaces ? Your attitude to the Falklands (Malvinas) is the main contributory factor. You blithely state that the islands are Argentinian and so are all the inhabitants.
    This is the mantra we hear time and time again along with 1833, pirates, usurpation etc with no real proof of it's truth.
    It is the bare faced arrogance of statements like this which is causing the “hate” against Argentina.

    May 30th, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    20 ynsere
    “Seems the Blancos may well give the Frente a run for their money.”

    Some of my friends are going to vote Blancos, NONE of them are voting Broad Fraud and ALL of them can’t wait to get rid of “No Money Pepe”.

    Whether he is re-elected or not Astori and Pepe’s “bestist” mate should BOTH be in the slammer over Pluna.

    May 30th, 2014 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    I advocate treating people how they treat others, and your country did that to Iraqis;
    1, what has Iraq got to do with the way Argentina treats the islanders
    2, it is Argentina who is treating the Falkland's people badly, not the other way around.
    so a bit misguided I thinks..

    May 30th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    WGAF what a cuckhold nation thinks?

    They have lived for long in the shadow of their bully neighbours, they can not take a pee without asking permission first.

    Thank god I was not born a Uruguayan.

    May 30th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @ 24 dam
    I wouldn't want to be accused of
    Hate
    Speech

    So I will keep it brief

    Off
    Fuck

    May 31st, 2014 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dam

    Clyde15
    At the time when “Argentina invaded” the Malvinas, you must be aware who was in power in Argentina at that time, is like telling me that all British are bad because of what happen to the Irish for centuries, we can not use this kind of reasoning anymore. As I know who suffer the most in the hands of the Argentinians military, was not so much the islanders, but the poor boys who end up there. The British treated them better than the Argentinean army in the end of the confict.
    Regarding the mantra, sorry, but that mantra will not go away, not today, not tomorrow, is going to be there until Britain gives back what it stole in 1833. The question here is; which argentinean goverment Britain should choose to make the negociations? This one? next one? The one after?

    May 31st, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #30
    This is where we fundamentally disagree and obviously never can agree.
    You say we “stole” the islands, we say they were never yours for us to steal.
    If your country had acted in a friendly reasonable manner there just might have been some accommodation over sovereignty. You blew that in 1982 when you INVADED the islands and placed them under martial law. Not content with that you also claim South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands. It appears that there is no limit to your desire for a “Mare Argentina.”

    The invasion of the Falklands was a highly popular event in Argentina.
    I can remember the ecstatic cheering crowds when the event took place.
    Yes, the junta carried it out but it had the backing of your people.
    The mood only changed when your forces were comprehensively defeated, then it appears that no one actually supported it.
    A bit like WW2 when there were no Nazis in Germany at the end of the war.

    The question here is; which argentinean goverment Britain should choose to make the negociations? Ask the Falkland Islanders, not the UK government.
    You have as much chance of this happening as collecting manure from a rocking horse.

    May 31st, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Reality @ 28

    Yes, thank god you're not a Uruguayan.
    Due to the Frente Amplio's utter failure in the educational field and the excess of salt in food, we already have more than enough semiliterate freaks with high blood pressure.

    May 31st, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    which argentinean goverment Britain should choose to make the negociations? This one? next one? The one after?

    NONE.

    May 31st, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Briton @ 33

    I agree. The next Argentine gov't will probably tone down the hysterical shrieking about the Falklands, but I don't think they'll recognise that successsive Arg. democratic gov'ts and dictators have been hoodwinking the people for generations.

    May 31st, 2014 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    My next door neighbours are Argentine and I know them all well, lovely people.

    They have given up on the country and the so called “government”. The father has had to close 2 of his 5 businesses and sees the end to the others coming soon unless things improve. There are just too many people to pay off to keep going he explained.

    If he does lose them I would not be surprised if he came to live here permanently.

    Jun 01st, 2014 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    As long as it is part of their constitution they will not stop, no matter what government is in power.

    but by removing it, would at the very least be a starting point.

    Jun 01st, 2014 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dam

    Look at this list. Some of you people in Malvina's have a very short memory.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Great_Britain
    War after war, and another war, is an sport for them.
    Alway they have some handy excuse. The last lie was in Iraq. Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. Where are those weapons? The only weapon of mass destruction here in call BRITAIN!
    You in Malvinas believe in this government of crocks?
    Why an American country will wish to have such a neighbor?
    There is no other country on earth with such a bad record. We in America want peace.
    War mongers please get out of America!
    The longer the British take to negotiated the better the deal will be for Argentina.
    The worse it will be for the Islanders.

    Jun 02nd, 2014 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 37 dim
    “We in America want peace”

    I take it you live in SOUTH America? The you DO NOT LIVE IN AMERICA.

    Plus you are an idiot. The Dark Country has a government of CROOKS.

    Jun 02nd, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Chris R @ 35.

    Lots of Argentines living in Punta del Este too. A friend had to close down her BA business so she rented out her flat there and now lives here year-round with her kids, in their holiday home. She loves it. Good schools and medical care here, she says, although Uruguayans are never satisfied.

    I told you the Blancos had a fighting chance! Well done Luis Lacalle Pou.
    He was educated at the British Schools in Montevideo, so he's probably pro- Brit and pro-Falklands. Some of his forebears were Scottish. Careful with former foreign minister Abreu however; he's paid unnecessary lip service to Arg. I'll write to Luisito pointing this out.
    Uruguay doesn't need another Almagro.

    Frente Amplio in disarray.

    Jun 02nd, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #37
    Your English is letting you down. It looks as if it was done by an different persona.

    In most of these wars we were part of a coalition.

    You in Malvinas believe in this government of crocks?
    Eh, no ! We don't believe a word your lying government says.

    You have peace in South America. The UK is attacking no one.
    It's your country that is doing all the shouting.
    Your lot are doing the threatening....just look at what you posted..
    “The worse it will be for the Islanders.” That looks like a threat to me and anyone who can read and understand ENGLISH !

    I am afraid that you will just have to live with the status quo unless you fancy a re- run of 1982

    Jun 02nd, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    List of wars involving Argentina
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Argentina
    War after war, and another war,
    Always they have some handy excuse. The last lie was the Falklands . the Falklanders were being held hostage,
    Where are those hostages??
    The only hostages are their in Argentina!
    You in Argies believe in your government of crooks

    there is no other country on earth with such a bad record. We in south America want war,,,
    War mongers are good, The longer the British good and law biding the better the deal will be for Argentina.
    The worse it will be for the Islanders.

    bang..

    Jun 02nd, 2014 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Damn there is another troll who sounds awfully familiar.
    Yawn!

    Jun 02nd, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 39 ynsere

    Yes, you were correct.

    Bit unhappy with Sendic though: yet another crook like his father. He did five years training as a lawyer and never took the exam, bit it didn't stop him claiming it!

    BTW Stevie is back bemoaning my solution to the electrical supply problems. Apparently I like to make money in business! “Quick”, isn't he?

    Broad Fraud in array: I LOVE IT! Shhh! Better not tell Stevie. Ha, ha, ha.

    Jun 03rd, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Forgetit has said he will not rest until he has 'routed' me from this site.

    He must be must be getting tired now.

    Also, he claims to have been here longer than me and therefore his opinion is to be respected more and I have no right to post.

    Doh! It's the internet you fuckwit. Do try to keep up with the modern world!

    He also called my race 'lowly'. As a mixed-race independent I would like to ask this racist twat which one of my parental heritage he finds most offensive, and why?

    I think his present and future posts should be treated with the derision they deserve.

    Jun 03rd, 2014 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    ChrisR @ 43

    I didn't know Sendic had claimed a degree he hasn't earned. I've heard the same of TMBOA.

    Who's bemoaning your opinions re electricity? Never heard of him. Plenty of people know fuck all about fridges, including a bloke in Punta who promised to come and give an estimate for repairing mine.The sod never turned up.

    Wish I were as well off; imagine not turning up for work whenever you feel lazy.

    Once you know someone's ignorant or a liar, best ignore him.

    Roll on October: shall we be able to get rid of the clowns in office?

    Jun 03rd, 2014 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 45 ynsere
    “Roll on October: shall we be able to get rid of the clowns in office?”

    I hope sincerely that you can, but with all the “poor” on the Social Inclusion Programme who are not going to vote for Christmas (being turkeys :o) ) it is going to be a close run thing.

    Fingers crossed though.

    Jun 04th, 2014 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dam

    @40 Clyde15
    I'm sorry about my English, really I'm.
    “In most of these wars we were part of a coalition.”
    Is that a joke? Now we can call every messy war that Britain take part of; a “coalition” or par of one! What a laugh, this is... People die, every time you pull the trigger, been a “coalition” or not.

    “The UK is attacking no one” again... :-) That one is to be remember! Tell that the Iraqis or Afghans right now.

    “That looks like a threat” Sorry, I did not mean to confuse you. Is not a threat, all the contrary. What I meant is the Islanders will loose in the long run, that all.

    I wish for the islanders to get a good deal out of this mess. Do you really thing Britain care about you islanders?

    Britain kiss to HK good bye very fast. In Hong Kong were living - and still live - more British decedents than in Malvinas. Britain is in a real mess, honest they do not care one bit. They care about the land, the honor been hurt, and all that. But the reality is something else, please do not dream.

    I would like the islanders to have full autonomy, live in peace, and be part of Argentina. No military bases, no funny business. That only will be achieve by ending this bad situation, and that Britain go for good.

    The longer the delay, the worse the deal will be for you the Islanders.
    In one hand you could achieve as I mention before, full autonomy, live a supper life, and run your own affairs, or on the other, full integration with the Argentinean state with all the bad things that go with it.

    I hope I explain my self clearly, and not left paranoid interpretations.

    Jun 04th, 2014 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #47
    What I meant by your English letting you down was that you now appear to be a different person from previous posts.
    From trying to appear reasonable, you are showing your true colours.

    We are attacking the Iraqis ? Pray tell.

    As to Afghanistan, we, along with your despised coalition, are trying to give the people of Afghanistan a chance to vote for a government that THEY want, not one imposed by the Taliban. We have all but pulled out - do you keep up with current affairs ?

    The only way that the Islanders can lose is if Argentina gets it's thieving hands on the Falklands.

    “I would like the islanders to have full autonomy, live in peace”
    They can have that if Argentina leaves them in peace.
    The only reason we have forces there is because your people would walk in and take over again.

    I am not an Islander, but British, living in the UK and yes WE DO CARE about the Falklands.
    We lost a lot of good men defending it against your country's aggression
    .
    Again, get your facts right. Hong Kong was leased from China, the lease was up, so it was returned to them as per the treaty.

    The bottom line is that the UK is certain of it's title to the islands and that Argentina has no valid claim. Why should we hand them over to you and take the risk of the population being subjugated or removed.
    Nothing your country has said or done convinces the UK that we can trust what you say. Why should we take any risk with their lives ?

    if you wish to sort out the sovereignty of the islands, take it to the ICJ.

    Also, explain why you think that S.Georgia and the S.Sandwich Islands belong to Argentina......and most of the S.Atlantic.

    Jun 04th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @48 Clyde.

    So very glad you pointed out the situation regarding Hong Kong and the leasehold treaty that the British did honour.

    Also Britain gave visas to thousands from Hong Kong, who had relations in the UK at the time.

    Jun 04th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    The bottom line is that there's no point of comparison between HK and the Falklands. Dam is clutching at straws.

    Jun 05th, 2014 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dam

    @48 “leased from China...”
    The most shameful chapter in history, the Opium Wars, I like your typical blind way of seen reality. The Chinese will remember if you do not!
    All Islands in the South pacific are British...of course who else? HK was leased from China, with guns ships, and soldiers making sure the leasing transaction is much easier, is a very good system you people had.

    Now, it is over, good little children must stop playing, be good is time to grow up now.

    Jun 05th, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    And Argentina is a protectionist country.

    Amazing the keeping the that some people will go to when they want to change the subject.

    Jun 05th, 2014 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #51
    Yes, I agree you should grow up. But as it rings your bell to be anti-British I don't suppose it will happen.

    “All Islands in the South pacific are British.”

    Totally incorrect. I cannot think of ANY island in the S.Pacific which the UK claims. We had many protectorates such as Fiji, Cook Islands, Samoa etc but they were all given their independence years ago. I have been both in Fiji and the Cook Islands and the population there seem to like the British. Even the native Hawaiians seem to like the ties they had with us in the 19th century.

    “The most shameful chapter in history”
    Nothing we can be particularly proud about, agreed. However, the consequences of British control has produce an economic powerhouse benefitting mainland China. So you berate us for taking the place by force and now you berate us for giving it back under terms of the lease .

    You think that this was worse than the murder of 6 million undesirables by the Nazis ? Your logic is surely twisted.

    You have your own opinion - not facts-and that is your slant on the matter. As usual, with Argie supporters you have started being supercilious because you don't have anything else to say of any value.

    You still have NOT ANSWERED my question.

    Why do you think that the sub -Antarctic islands claimed and administered by the UK belong to Argentina.
    Apart from the fact that they seem to WANT the whole of the Antarctic region.

    Jun 05th, 2014 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dam

    The real facts are; the British had no right to make any “claims”, not in the pacific, not in the Atlantic, not in the Indian Ocean, Africa, or anywhere in the world, apart of the vicinity of the United Kingdom.

    The cheap copy of the Imperial Rome was try by many, Napoleon try it, Britain try it, Nazi Germany also, and many others. In our world today that infantile mentality is definitive out, and is not acceptable.

    The topic of China is sad, that you can be so proud of going to another country to conquer, control, by using force, is not only criminal, but barbaric. China does not forget that... I find it in very bad taste to try to justify the things bad actions, with worse ones like Nazis.

    The facts also are the history of a colonial power that had no right to conquer and kill. That is a fact! You are wrong to defend that, that is also a fact.

    All this events only point out how a country did behave in it history.

    Colonialism is nothing to be proud off, making claims of places is not something ethical right, is wrong!

    And if Argentinians or who ever does something wrong, we must mention it. No justification, sorry.

    The question of Argentina, ownership of the Malvinas, and other Islands such Georgia, and some areas of the antarctic are obvious to most people in the world, read about it, inform your self.

    Argentina is not claiming ownership the Island of White, or some Island in Scotland. Is only setting a claim or ownership for lands, Argentina that inherit for another colonial power Spain, those lands are physically next to Argentina, and in the vicinity, as part of the land that was “El virrenato of rio de la plata”. Chile maybe be right to dispute with Argentina some land, maybe Uruguay, if anybody. But Britain? What Britain is doing there? Sorry those times are over.
    The only thing Britain can do is to negotiate and to put right what you did wrong.

    Ahh by the way, I'm not an Argie supporter, I only support who is right, and you are not.

    Jun 05th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #54
    Where to start !
    The British have no right to make any claims to uninhabited islands.
    So the originally uninhabited islands of Pitcairn , St.Helena, Tristan da Cunha and Ascension should all be vacated and given to whom ?

    What right has Argentina to make claims. What you are effectively saying is that Argentina has the right to all the S.Atlantic territories although Britain was there before Argentina existed. How convenient for you !! We were exploring this region long before your country was nothing but a small settlement on the river Plate. What right did these people ,who came mainly from Spain, to move down the continent and annexe the land ? As you say colonialism is nothing to be proud of. I presume that refers to Argentina also.

    The question of ” Argentina ownership of EVERYTHING they see just about sums it up. The whole world does NOT agree with Argentina.
    Read about it...I have for about 40 years !! You believe the lies you have been fed about it.
    So proximity denotes ownership. How close ? 360 miles to the Falklands, 1100 miles to S.Georgia. By that context the Faeroes and Iceland should belong to the UK.
    Argentina is an expansionist colonial power ..end of story.

    Why don't you read deeply about the claims and counter claims.
    For two years at least, every Argentinean claim made on this forum has been refuted with chapter and verse. What has been the effect, back on the magic roundabout about usurpation in 1833 and it starts all over again. Get used to it, the Islanders are there to stay as a BOT until they decide otherwise.

    Jun 05th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Dam is quite simply jealous that the UK is a developed Country.

    Rather than work hard and join the First World he wants to snipe from the edges and demand a free ride.

    Why not create your version of an 'industrial revolution' in the C20th?

    Earn your right to exist?

    Grasping mother fuckers.

    Jun 05th, 2014 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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