Almost 30% of the world’s population, 2.1 billion people, is considered obese or overweight, researchers said, while rates among children have increased by a whopping 47% in the last 33 years. Read full article
Australia has a weight problem. However using BMI doesn't help to measure it. And it doesn't help to tackle it unless scary headlines are what cause people to make lifestyle changes.
Being overweight really contributes to a society's health care costs, I think.
Fat gives people bad backs, knees, and bad feet. It also causes diabetes and heart disease. It also gives people low self esteem. All of these problems have to be covered by a country's health insurance programs.
People that are overweight should pay much more for health insurance. People who smoke have to.
And don't tell me, some people can't help it. Most can, so don't let all of them off the hook for a few.
Governments adjust taxes to influence behaviour, why not allow insurance premiums to be raised to influence people's dieting.
At a minimum, at least they'll be paying for their own fat, but I think targeting people's wallets is a great persuader.
Australia 63% and rising faster than any other nation?? WOW... But at least now I can finally round up my image of Anglotino. I stress the ROUND part! :D
Don't have to picture Yankeeboy, obviously they had a picture already on file!!
67% of UK, that completes the trifecta.
Obesity is no longer a sign a prosperity, it is a sign of poverty...
Looking through this thread you can pick out the comments from Argentines without looking at the names. Immature and bitter. Bitter,bitter,bitter.
@9 I hope you do get to Argentina soon. Don't let the likes of the Truly Bitter put you off. Most of the people you meet will be friendly and fun to be around. Though you will see it is a country of great problems, the people will welcome you. Be prepared for just about everyone you meet to ask if you can get them a job in your home country but other than that it is a lovely place in a time warp.
@12 I know you are more open-minded than to judge on a few malcontents. The time when I was living in Buenos Aires was great fun.
Re: Obesity. It is a very real problem across the world. It is much more a problem of what we eat rather than quantity, unless a person really pigs out. Too much hidden sugar - more addictive than any drug - and dependency on wheat products.
Obesity and drugs. Nature way to fight population explosion. Many times during medieval history nature did eliminate sometimes total populations such as the Black Death” (year of 1350) wiped out 70% of the population in Europe. This time it will do so by shortening life expectations.
Throughout history, millions of people perished due to lack of proper medicine. With the advance of health systems nature found another way as it always will. No medicine will cure human nature from self destruction. I surely will not be here to see it, but feel sorry for my ancestors.
Actually rather an alter of nature; the black death was mostly due to Europeans in the middle ages killing cats out of superstation. As there was no more cats, rats and mice proliferated in Europe and made the disease unstoppable.
Just saying.
I remember taking my kids to Disney Land, Orlando.
Walking in to the theme parks I was struck by the number of mobility scooters available at the entrances.
I remember thinking to myself how considerate that was for the parks to provide such things for the disabled. Then I spent the rest of the day pulling my kids out of the path of the fat lard arsed bastards riding them. God what a site to behold, plowing through queues on the rides, pushing their way to front of shows and refreshment stands, unbelievable.
Then I started working for the NHS and that was an eye opener.
The Black Death originated in the Far East and, I think, landed in Europe in Genoa, Italy.
@14 That is an interesting idea. If anything, life does everything in its' power to perpetuate. Everything evolves to procreate, reproduce and survive. It is an interesting idea that there is some balancing power at work.
Your right, it spread from the East through the trading routes, brought on the of the black rat. At that time there was a large cloth trade with the Genoese.
Originally spread by their bite, the bubonic but then becoming airborne, pneumonic. Ended feudalism in this country, hellnof a way to spread freedom.
The Mongols were the ones who spread it, but nor the middle estern peoples nor in China the Black death caused so much casualties as it did in Europe... (Never the less the Mongols killed over 60 million ppl in China, Russia and Persia since Genghis unified his clans, 60 million in 1200s was a slaughter of epic proportions in those days)..In Europe as there was no more domestic cats, rats spread.
I'm afraid you will probably never come. Karma dictates that normally you don't get to visit those you trash so undeservedly.
I would suggest you visit the UK. Yes it is a country with a great deal of internal problems (child poverty, racial tensions, rampant obesity and tooth decay, separatism, and occasional mass rioting and acts of terrorism, plus a still struggling economy that SEVEN YEARS LATER has yet to post TRUE GROWTH, GDP still smaller than at the peak in late 2007):
There are reasons to be cautious, even if we do get a blow-out number. Britain's economy is still smaller than its peak before the financial crisis in 2008, and many economists fear that the recovery - supported by five years of record low interest rates - isn't yet on firm foundations.
Plus all the chavs, Nazis as heads of state, and still the lack of Vitamin D. But the people are nice, AFTER a few brown ales. Otherwise they are your typical Euro arrogant twats.
@19 Could it be that taking the disease away from its origin - where some resistance to it may have developed - to an entirely new area could have been why it was so devastating?
Doubt it; you should ask the Doc here but the facts that I know is that the Europeans had connections to the Middle East since almost a millennia by then. The Venetians and other northern Italian seafaring states had their trade links with the Levant, Byzantium and Black Sea from where they got the silk, species and other exotic goods from the East.
So clearly the Mongols had to do with it since they were foreigners and conquerors to the Middle East more than the Europeans were.
Overall, the lack of cats theory is pretty convincing to me.
More like there were people with a resistance to the disease.
It's the only logical explanation.
No concept of hygiene, no concept of how the disease spread, no effective treatment. They gathered in churches by hundreds to pray, wow, now that was clever.
If you had antibodies, you lived, everybody, everybody, men, women and children died.
But why did a very populous city like Milan and most of Poland and Lithuania (Lithuania was pagan at the time) were spared??
Those must have also being dirty un hygienic, nor had any concept of treatment and prevention at the time.
The plague also reached India and Arabia, but it doesn’t seem to have had the same effects that it did in Europe
@26 I think the two key factors were 1) Fleas. They spread the disease from rats and small rodents (possibly cats) to humans. 2) Ports. Most movement was through trade and most trade went through seaports. That could be why a city like Milan was less affected whereas Venice was losing 600 people per day at the height of one outbreak.
Incidentally, The plague had many outbreaks through several centuries.
@26 CabezaDura2,
@27 ElaineB,
l read somewhere that the King of Poland ordered a scorched earth operation around the core of his kingdom & the rats & fleas could not cross it.
l think it was for a religious reason of some sort & not because he understood how the plague was spreading.
For whatever reason, it worked.
Why do you insist on shoving your seemingly endless ignorance down everyone's throat? Surely the mere thought of typing gives you pause at your continual failings in attempting to actually say anything on this website. I don't think you've ever said your nationality, which is just as well considering how badly you would reflect on your country. Anonymity could be considered patriotic in your case.
So first go and research AUSCANNZUKUS or Five Eyes to see how silly you just looked.
I loved your link. You just proved my comment above.
Hmmm an anonymous acoustic experts. Why anonymous. Acoustic experts in what? From where?
It's funny, because it was China that announced the Haixun 01 had picked up pings first. And then the JACC. So I am insure how these anonymous experts feel that Tony Abbott gained anything by playing politics.
And last but not least. Somehow Tony Abbott announcing a potential lead that could give hope to families is supposedly as callous as your comment at #7 regarding this search on an article that has nothing to do with it.
You attempted to be glib and insulting and came out looking like a loser. You overestimate your intelligence and ability, much to everyone's mirth on here.
Please don't leave this site, because every village needs an idiot.
@34 Briton,
A lot of us are having those types of thoughts.
One l heard the other day was that it was on its way to do a 9/11 on Diego Garcia & was shot down when it got too close.
Who really knows? (but l think SOME people do know!).
From obesity to MH370. Well that is one diversion I did not see coming...
My two cents: when KAL 007 & Iran Air 655 were shot down by, respectively, the U.S.S.R. & the U.S.A. in '83 & '88 neither of the two assailants were able to keep their military's actions a secret.
The most likely precedent IMO is Egypt Air 990 where it's believed the relief pilot caused the crash. He was facing ruin due to sexual misconduct charges.
35 lsolde
36 Anglotino
you may both be correct,
something bad happened and some is covering it up,
but like all things today, it will come out, sooner or later.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesBack to bread and dripping then..lol
Jun 01st, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 01 Briton
Jun 01st, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nah!! Bully beef and cabbage soup.
Nice picture of our own MercoP yankeeboy in action.
Jun 01st, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BMI
Jun 01st, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A worthless statistical tool.
If in doubt, google these guys:
Jonathan Brown, an AFL player who is supposedly borderline obese
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jed-adcock-named-at-brisbane-lions-captain-jonathan-brown-to-still-be-a-force-20140123-31brm.html
Ky Hurst, an ironman, who is grossly overweight according to BMI
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jed-adcock-named-at-brisbane-lions-captain-jonathan-brown-to-still-be-a-force-20140123-31brm.html
Australia has a weight problem. However using BMI doesn't help to measure it. And it doesn't help to tackle it unless scary headlines are what cause people to make lifestyle changes.
Being overweight really contributes to a society's health care costs, I think.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fat gives people bad backs, knees, and bad feet. It also causes diabetes and heart disease. It also gives people low self esteem. All of these problems have to be covered by a country's health insurance programs.
People that are overweight should pay much more for health insurance. People who smoke have to.
And don't tell me, some people can't help it. Most can, so don't let all of them off the hook for a few.
Governments adjust taxes to influence behaviour, why not allow insurance premiums to be raised to influence people's dieting.
At a minimum, at least they'll be paying for their own fat, but I think targeting people's wallets is a great persuader.
Australia 63% and rising faster than any other nation?? WOW... But at least now I can finally round up my image of Anglotino. I stress the ROUND part! :D
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't have to picture Yankeeboy, obviously they had a picture already on file!!
67% of UK, that completes the trifecta.
Obesity is no longer a sign a prosperity, it is a sign of poverty...
4 Anglotino
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great job searching flight MH370.. .in the wrong place for nearly two months.
Your such a smart ass Marcos.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where is it then?
At least the Aussies have the capabilities to search vast areas of oceans.
Anything coming down off the coast of your former home land would be searched for by the ARA and their bottomless ships!
Nostrils
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Imagining is all you will ever be able to do about Australia. I still can't wait to visit Argentina.
As usual, your contribution is negligible.
Marcos
Yes we did look in the wrong place didn't we. We own our mistakes.
Thank you for your callous attitude and disdain for the families of the missing in an excruciatingly poor attempt at attacking me.
Callous does not even to begin to describe this guy.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lost count of the amount of posts he has made, gloating over people's bereavements..
School shootings, train crashes, bridge collapses, floods and now a missing airline!
He's one sick fella.
Looking through this thread you can pick out the comments from Argentines without looking at the names. Immature and bitter. Bitter,bitter,bitter.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9 I hope you do get to Argentina soon. Don't let the likes of the Truly Bitter put you off. Most of the people you meet will be friendly and fun to be around. Though you will see it is a country of great problems, the people will welcome you. Be prepared for just about everyone you meet to ask if you can get them a job in your home country but other than that it is a lovely place in a time warp.
Elaine
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Every country has sad people.
I'd never judge 42 million people based on one person's personality disorders. If I did that, then I'd be no better than him.
I just can't bring myself to be that pitiful and pathetic.
@12 I know you are more open-minded than to judge on a few malcontents. The time when I was living in Buenos Aires was great fun.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Re: Obesity. It is a very real problem across the world. It is much more a problem of what we eat rather than quantity, unless a person really pigs out. Too much hidden sugar - more addictive than any drug - and dependency on wheat products.
Obesity and drugs. Nature way to fight population explosion. Many times during medieval history nature did eliminate sometimes total populations such as the Black Death” (year of 1350) wiped out 70% of the population in Europe. This time it will do so by shortening life expectations.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Throughout history, millions of people perished due to lack of proper medicine. With the advance of health systems nature found another way as it always will. No medicine will cure human nature from self destruction. I surely will not be here to see it, but feel sorry for my ancestors.
14
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually rather an alter of nature; the black death was mostly due to Europeans in the middle ages killing cats out of superstation. As there was no more cats, rats and mice proliferated in Europe and made the disease unstoppable.
Just saying.
I remember taking my kids to Disney Land, Orlando.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Walking in to the theme parks I was struck by the number of mobility scooters available at the entrances.
I remember thinking to myself how considerate that was for the parks to provide such things for the disabled. Then I spent the rest of the day pulling my kids out of the path of the fat lard arsed bastards riding them. God what a site to behold, plowing through queues on the rides, pushing their way to front of shows and refreshment stands, unbelievable.
Then I started working for the NHS and that was an eye opener.
The Black Death originated in the Far East and, I think, landed in Europe in Genoa, Italy.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 That is an interesting idea. If anything, life does everything in its' power to perpetuate. Everything evolves to procreate, reproduce and survive. It is an interesting idea that there is some balancing power at work.
Elaine
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your right, it spread from the East through the trading routes, brought on the of the black rat. At that time there was a large cloth trade with the Genoese.
Originally spread by their bite, the bubonic but then becoming airborne, pneumonic. Ended feudalism in this country, hellnof a way to spread freedom.
The Mongols were the ones who spread it, but nor the middle estern peoples nor in China the Black death caused so much casualties as it did in Europe... (Never the less the Mongols killed over 60 million ppl in China, Russia and Persia since Genghis unified his clans, 60 million in 1200s was a slaughter of epic proportions in those days)..In Europe as there was no more domestic cats, rats spread.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm afraid you will probably never come. Karma dictates that normally you don't get to visit those you trash so undeservedly.
I would suggest you visit the UK. Yes it is a country with a great deal of internal problems (child poverty, racial tensions, rampant obesity and tooth decay, separatism, and occasional mass rioting and acts of terrorism, plus a still struggling economy that SEVEN YEARS LATER has yet to post TRUE GROWTH, GDP still smaller than at the peak in late 2007):
There are reasons to be cautious, even if we do get a blow-out number. Britain's economy is still smaller than its peak before the financial crisis in 2008, and many economists fear that the recovery - supported by five years of record low interest rates - isn't yet on firm foundations.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/blog/2014/apr/29/uk-gdp-growth-economy-strength-bank-of-england-live
Plus all the chavs, Nazis as heads of state, and still the lack of Vitamin D. But the people are nice, AFTER a few brown ales. Otherwise they are your typical Euro arrogant twats.
Aside from the fact that they lived in shit, never washed and only had one change of coths, the peasantry that is, you might be right?
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Could it be that taking the disease away from its origin - where some resistance to it may have developed - to an entirely new area could have been why it was so devastating?
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doubt it; you should ask the Doc here but the facts that I know is that the Europeans had connections to the Middle East since almost a millennia by then. The Venetians and other northern Italian seafaring states had their trade links with the Levant, Byzantium and Black Sea from where they got the silk, species and other exotic goods from the East.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So clearly the Mongols had to do with it since they were foreigners and conquerors to the Middle East more than the Europeans were.
Overall, the lack of cats theory is pretty convincing to me.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Cats-and-the-Black-Plague
@20
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another pathetic post with no basic facts - as usual, you don't even bother to read the complete article that you provide a link to.
All this as usual from you, the most arrogant twat that posts on this site!
More like there were people with a resistance to the disease.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the only logical explanation.
No concept of hygiene, no concept of how the disease spread, no effective treatment. They gathered in churches by hundreds to pray, wow, now that was clever.
If you had antibodies, you lived, everybody, everybody, men, women and children died.
Bet the cats got fat!
25
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But why did a very populous city like Milan and most of Poland and Lithuania (Lithuania was pagan at the time) were spared??
Those must have also being dirty un hygienic, nor had any concept of treatment and prevention at the time.
The plague also reached India and Arabia, but it doesn’t seem to have had the same effects that it did in Europe
@26 I think the two key factors were 1) Fleas. They spread the disease from rats and small rodents (possibly cats) to humans. 2) Ports. Most movement was through trade and most trade went through seaports. That could be why a city like Milan was less affected whereas Venice was losing 600 people per day at the height of one outbreak.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Incidentally, The plague had many outbreaks through several centuries.
Being fat does not necessarily mean you are greedy in any way,
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0some have medical problems and other things,
this just seems to be the way the world is going,
but hopefully in time we will all be trim , fit , athletic , slim
to late for some of us.
but there are many reasons, that's all im saying.
True.
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Though I do not think that applies to mummies little darlings in the photograph.
What sort of a parent allows their kids to eat that shit.
Look at them, Christ knows what mum and dad look like!
@26 CabezaDura2,
Jun 02nd, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 ElaineB,
l read somewhere that the King of Poland ordered a scorched earth operation around the core of his kingdom & the rats & fleas could not cross it.
l think it was for a religious reason of some sort & not because he understood how the plague was spreading.
For whatever reason, it worked.
9 Anglotino
Jun 03rd, 2014 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Disrespectful to the victims indeed.
MH370: Scientists Attack Australian PM Tony Abbott for 'Playing Politics' Over Ping Reports
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mh370-scientists-attack-australian-pmtony-abbott-playing-politics-over-ping-reports-1449744
Wasn't a British sub in the area? I wonder if they could've caused the confusion.
Doubt it was a British sub.
Jun 03rd, 2014 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it was in the area they would have known about it.
It's called Coordinating a search.
Novel idea that, maximising the effect of your resources and assets.
Marcos Alejandro
Jun 03rd, 2014 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you insist on shoving your seemingly endless ignorance down everyone's throat? Surely the mere thought of typing gives you pause at your continual failings in attempting to actually say anything on this website. I don't think you've ever said your nationality, which is just as well considering how badly you would reflect on your country. Anonymity could be considered patriotic in your case.
So first go and research AUSCANNZUKUS or Five Eyes to see how silly you just looked.
I loved your link. You just proved my comment above.
Hmmm an anonymous acoustic experts. Why anonymous. Acoustic experts in what? From where?
It's funny, because it was China that announced the Haixun 01 had picked up pings first. And then the JACC. So I am insure how these anonymous experts feel that Tony Abbott gained anything by playing politics.
And last but not least. Somehow Tony Abbott announcing a potential lead that could give hope to families is supposedly as callous as your comment at #7 regarding this search on an article that has nothing to do with it.
You attempted to be glib and insulting and came out looking like a loser. You overestimate your intelligence and ability, much to everyone's mirth on here.
Please don't leave this site, because every village needs an idiot.
One has to strongly suspect that it was destroyed, and it is being covered up,
Jun 03rd, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just a thought like..
@34 Briton,
Jun 03rd, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A lot of us are having those types of thoughts.
One l heard the other day was that it was on its way to do a 9/11 on Diego Garcia & was shot down when it got too close.
Who really knows? (but l think SOME people do know!).
The US military leaks like a sieve. If it was doing a 9/11 anywhere it probably would have been China.
Jun 03rd, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Chinese government is much more efficient in shutting people up.
From obesity to MH370. Well that is one diversion I did not see coming...
Jun 04th, 2014 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0My two cents: when KAL 007 & Iran Air 655 were shot down by, respectively, the U.S.S.R. & the U.S.A. in '83 & '88 neither of the two assailants were able to keep their military's actions a secret.
The most likely precedent IMO is Egypt Air 990 where it's believed the relief pilot caused the crash. He was facing ruin due to sexual misconduct charges.
35 lsolde
Jun 04th, 2014 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 036 Anglotino
you may both be correct,
something bad happened and some is covering it up,
but like all things today, it will come out, sooner or later.
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