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Argentina's stars inflame Falklands row on eve of World Cup
Argentina's footballers inflamed their country's rivalry with England on the eve of the World Cup on Saturday, unfurling a banner claiming sovereignty of the Falkland Islands before defeating Slovenia 2-0. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesDisgraceful.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Disgusting,
Insulting,
Intimidating,
Shameful, and bloody arrogant,
Should be kicked of the world cup immediately,
[--but they wont be --]
What if England meets them?
This is provocation at the very least,
https://twitter.com/SkyAnton/status/475391020948258817/photo/1
This warrants their removal from the world cup,
someone start a petition get em out.
FIFA regulations state that political influence cannot be used in the game so this is a violation. Will AFA be penalised? Grondona is old school FIFA so probably not.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The strange thing is Argentina are one of the favourites to win in Brazil. Why get involved in something different that has no chance of being won?
Because they are childish , and subservient to the whims of CFK.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0They could be accused of inciting their fans to commit violence against England fans. No doubt FIFA will be taking note.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meantime the England fans will probably think the Argentines are somewhat retarded if they think the Falkland Islands are Argentine when they are a BOT.
Let them display what ever they like. It's only football.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fact remains where it counts the most, they are and they always be.
THE LOSERS!
Dickheads. Stupid, impotent dickheads blindly carrying out political instructions that they know are a against the rules.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0These 'sportsmen' are breaking the rules of the tournament because their political masters told them to.
Makes them look like a bunch of cheaters before they've even started.
The Fools.
I understand they often do this before national games - bring out this silly malvinas flag.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Russians tried to get the USA banned.
http://www.espnfc.com/story/1746047
This not what football is about,
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0and it could not only ruin it, but as some have said, incite violence against others.
Simpletons need their circuses or else they might start to notice that there's less bread to go around.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Engrish Whiners…!
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You started more than a month ago with this song..:
”If Messi was an Englishmaaaaaan
”We'll give you Las Malvinas
And Thatcher's body too
Just give us the Messi-ah
And maybe Kun Agüero too”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjut53UeVO4&feature=kp
:-))))))))))))))))))))))
@2 Agree, strangely. Argieland must be banned for the next 10 years. And send all these “team” members to a prison camp on a deserted island. Somewhere awash with radiation and used for nuclear testing.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6 They are cheaters. At everything. Soccer. Debt. Economy. Law. How could larcenous, mendacious genocides be anything other than cheats? Also terrified and waiting for all the rest of its horrific crimes to be revealed to the world.
Stop whining; watch & learn…:
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvMbSDgA3Pw
:-))))))))))))))))))
@10
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Think, it's called self-deprecation & humour and makes your team's political banner look petty and misjudged. But then deep down you knew that already.
Argentina, classy as always....“another nail in the inglissh [pig dog swine] coffin”
Jun 08th, 2014 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's just not cricket!
Jun 08th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 02-0 in Arge3ntina...
Jun 08th, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile, in British Honduras..... 0-0
:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Silly stunts
Jun 08th, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0From silly ........
Answers on a postcard please :-)
(17) Mr Lorton
Jun 08th, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0A three finger salute to you.........., copper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UToIW_gThI
Jesus, what a group of very desperate people.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fancy allowing themselves to be manipulated by a cnut like CFK?
Desperados.... if only they knew the historic truth .
Jun 08th, 2014 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WGAF about Messi!
Jun 08th, 2014 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You keep him, we'll keep Dave COOMBES.
He's much more useful.
Article 3 of the FIFA statutes “discrimination of any kind against country, private person or group of people on account of ethnic origin, gender, language, religion, politics or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion.”
Jun 08th, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is actually no laughing matter; we might think this is funny, embarrassing, typical banana behaviour, but I've travelled a lot in the third world; it won't be long before they start burning Union Jacks and throwing stones at the British Embassy etc, that's what these people are like - backward.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone else see the advert below the photograph of the Argentine Team.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Swear to god, it was a recruiting poster entitled How to join the Royal Marines!
LMAO.
Leave it there permenantly Mercopress! It's a cracker, probably unintentional, but still a cracker.
I think there is a considerable difference between fans doing something and the actual team doing something. Having said that, I don't care what they do. What's good though is that a lot of people WILL care so deep down I'm glad they've done it. Atta boys! Pat on the head for all of you from TMBOA.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
Probably kept the Tax Agents away for another month!
Jun 08th, 2014 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shot down like little birds, ever heard of fighting back you dickhead.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know which little birds he meant.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cuckoos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When the Falklands are Agentinas, we will help in oil exploration.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHLqazrQduY&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&feature=mh_lolz
23 FI_Frost (#)
Jun 08th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are absolutely right. These backward people will start stockpiling tires to burn in the name of “Las Malvinas”. And that is in BA. Imagine in the provinces where they are even less educated!!
Blimey talk about Cuckoos and old Brazil Nuts appears.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spooky!
29 If Argentina ever attempts to take the Falklands again we'll help them with their body bags!
Jun 08th, 2014 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is such a stupid, backward, inconsequential banana republic.
Travelling roads throughout the country you will see the same stupid little signs crop up here and there.... If you were to ask someone what it's all about the general public response is “Yo no se, es una propaganda del gobierno” to which one might add ... And what are they these Malvinas? To which the response would normally be “tampoco ne se...!” Generally the only ones concerned about this particular topic are those destitute moralists who think because they are Argentine they deserve what ever they want. They are still telling Chile that the glaciers that run along the border belong to Argentina just like the Beagle Channel... If they worried as much about running their government honestly and taking care of the problems they have at home they would be way better off. But NO... we're Tino-Tano's and what we want, we want because we are the best and we deserve it... Quite Pathetic !!... They are about to get what they deserve, and that is their asses handed to them on a platter ... Poor sods!
Jun 08th, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find this hilarious.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We should get one too.
...“the Falklands are whatever the population self-determine”
Or
“ the Falklands are a British Overseas Territory because 99.8% of them want to be”
Or
“ the Sudetenland is German”
What a laugh!!!
Why do all the best Argentine players play in Europe?
Let me count.... uno, dos,tres, cuatro ........................................................
Jun 08th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....................................................diecisiete, dieciocho.
Eighteen...
Eighteen whining Anglos all together on this one thread...
@34
Jun 08th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could it be a better standard of living, if I was Argentinian I would prefer to live in Europe. Fortuneately I am not Argentinian and I do live in Europe.
@35
Jun 08th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was just going to say the same. I don't care about the Falkland's issue but I'm all for this JUST to see the massive whinging that it set off in this forum... by people who in the same breath categorize Argentina as inconsequential, irrelevant, inferior, genetically lower, vile, corrupt, imperialist, blah blah blah... yet here they are getting worked up about such “irrelevance”.
And here yet again they come out with the “political card not to be used in sporting events”, when THEY AS HIPOCRITICAL GARBAGE they are completely abused the Sochi games to make political propaganda against Russia.
The hypocracy of these Anglos, EUians, et al is only bounded by the cosmological horizon. Scumbags the lot of them.
I can see the rest of the world saying what does that sign say, at the very least they could have put it in English, it would probably be understood by many more countries, but heho it was thought up by an Argie
Jun 08th, 2014 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@35
Jun 08th, 2014 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Noooooo silly, us turnips ain't whining! We're lapping it up and taking the pizs.
I Would Love It, if you bananas continued with stuff in Brazil; please, please don't stop what you're doing. This is comedy gold.
And two Argentine idiots here try desperately to find an ounce of superiority in this news story but failing completely. Can they not see how twattish the Argentine football players come across but pulling a stunt like this?
Jun 08th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has someone forwarded the picture to FIFA? It needs to be circulated so fans can take the piss out of them at every game.
“LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS”
Jun 08th, 2014 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To prevent Mercopress delete it for not being in English:
“THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINE”
@41 And yet they are not.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will are.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 La Patria
Jun 08th, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed.
18:1!
Jun 08th, 2014 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now where have I seen those odds before?
Oh I know, they needed that many to ethnically cleanse the Islands.
Didn't like it when the odds dropped to 1:3 though.
@43 Not a chance.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twink....
Jun 08th, 2014 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me count, 18 Anglos laughing at your impotence and humiliation.
You may of course misinterpret it as whining, because our totally relaxed superiority would be an impossible thing for you to understand or experience.
Trolley, not all Argentines are irrelevant, inferior, genetically lower and vile etc...but YOU are. I am glad you recognise it.
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina are SOOOOOOOO desperate it's actually embarrassing.
If Argentine truly wanted the Falkland Islands all they have to do is persuade the Falkland Islanders that it would be in their best interests to become Argentine. That shouldn't be too difficult, should it?
Oh wait......
Cheap political stunts are just that...CHEAP. Meaningless, and it won't change one thing at all.
Come on Argentina, put your money where your mouth is and take your 'case' to the International Court of Justice. It is the ONLY way to get the Falkland Islands, as there is no way you could persuade the Islanders (especially the way you treat them) to become Argentine, and your military is only any good when fighting unarmed civilians and are so terrified of 1,200 military personnel that they p!ss themselves in fear.
And of course, what happens if FIFA decide to ban the Argentine team for bringing politics into the game? Rioting in the streets of Argentina. And you still won't have gained anything.
No Falklands.
No respect.
No idea.
All together now.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Los Malvinas Spn Argentina!
And again.
Los Malvinas Son Argentina!
Nope not working.
Bloody Ruby Slippers!
Let me count again.... uno, dos,tres, cuatro ...............................................
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..............................................................diecinueve, veinte.
Twenty...
Ninteen whining Anglos and a sparing aussie ;-)
19 whining Anglos.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm, should be enough to see off 40 million Whining Argies.
Repeat after me Los Malvinas son Argentina.
No didn't work.
And again.
Los Malvinas Son Argentina.
Still not working.
Ferkin wish bone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@50
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well done, Team Argentina. The more your country's unique brand of foolishness is exposed, the better it is for everybody.
Sandwich boards next.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Almost has effective as the OAS, C24, etc, etc, etc, etc.
Oh please, please, give them to us, we needs them.
Their frustration is palpable, you can almost taste it.
The best thing is, there is not a damned thing they can do about it.
Still, it's fun to watch!
Twentyone...
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twenty whining Anglos and a sparing Aussie ;-)
Just tweeted this article to the relevant football authorities and the UK & Argentine governments.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Disgraceful. They will have blood on their hands if this ends in violence at the World Cup.
Twentytwo...
Jun 08th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twentyone whining Anglos and a sparing Aussie ;-)
...'Their arrival was overshadowed by a “diplomatic incident” involving the Argentina team.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The South American side unfurled a banner at their last friendly, a 2-0 victory over Slovenia on Saturday, which declared “Las Malvinas Son Argentinas” - The Falklands are Argentine - to wild cheers from the 52,000 crowd in Buenos Aires.
Tonight, it appeared Argentina had broken Fifa rules with the Falklands banner. Their code states that teams must not use any political, religious or personal statements at matches.
The England team left behind a whiteboard in their dressing room in at Miami’s stadium with the message: “DON’T ANSWER QUESTIONS OF FALKLANDS.”
On arrival at their hotel, one reporter shouted: “What about the Malvinas?” to Frank Lampard, a question which he ignored...'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2014/england-squad-arrive-rio-hotel-3662966
This cheap posturing by the increasingly desperate Argies only goes to prove British superiority.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We laugh at the impotent fools.
England should prepare a banner with the following “No they're not”
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It should be unfurled if a repeat of this fiasco occurs.
But England is not the UK... so that would not be “legal” since England is not a recognized nation in the UN.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stupid Anglos don't think things through do they.
If the Gib fa don't highlight this rule breach, then I could see Spain starting to do it.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hopefully this and our renewed stalling of EU-MERCOSUR trade talks will make it utterly clear to the Anglos and EUians that Argentina and they are growing ever and ever more distant and animus will only increase.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My generation is the most anti-EUian and Anglo ever. We have read your history and what do you expect based on the crimes you have committed in every corner of the globe. Furthermore, when we know you harbor this sense of superiority, and you denigrate us, what sane person on Earth would befriend someone like you EUian-Anglos?
It would be best for all sides if you just took your embassies and your institutions (IMF, etc), and left us alone. WE DON'T WANT DEALINGS WITH YOU. We push you away at every turn, cant you see!?
@58
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree Ilsen. Stooping to the Argentine level with political gestures at the World Cup would be demeaning. They have 3 ways to get the Falklands - the first way failed in 82 and so unless or until they attempt one of the other two then we should just ignore all this. Anyway it's the islanders' business so if a response is judged useful, then it should come from them.
@41
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brassi
You still don't get it do you? Most of the world, except Spanish speaking countries, do not know where these mythical “ Malvinas ” are. Much better to say the FALKLANDS are ARGENTINIAN because believe it or not most of Europe understands FALKLAND ISLANDS/ MALVINAS and contrary to Argentina most of the world speaks English as a 2nd language.
Have a nice day
It is the Falkland Islands, I agree.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also agree English is really vanishing in importance as a language in Argentina. Not needed at all to conduct business.
But I like the language and its panoply of vocabulary and quirky lack of spelling rules, so I learn 15 new words a day. I now know almost 900 new words from the last time I mentioned this part of my studies.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahah......ahem.......ahahahahaha,.....twats.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Awww. Think is showing us he can count and TTT telling us he can learn new words every day. Bless them. It is no wonder they don't realise what twats their football team look. No idea at all.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am wondering if Brasileiro will be supporting Argentina and not Brazil in the WCFs.
Loving Soccer Aid. Now there is commendable behaviour from people enjoying playing football. Including a Chilean.
Well would you Adam and Eve it, ( believe it, for non cockneys) Messi is being investigated for receiving money for his charity work. Apparently money went into an account in a tax haven.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Footballers giving us their deep knowledge of international politics and history.....sh*t....move over Chomsky.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie - not surprising that Frank Lampard of the English team ignored a question about the “Malvinas” - - ho most likely would have had a ferking clue what the reporter was on about!
Jun 08th, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reminds me of the summer of 2013 when a bolsie Argentine Harbour Official asked the Captain of a cruise ship- “was he going to the Malvinas Islands?” - to which question the Scottish Captain replied - no he was not. - whereupon he was thanked by the Argie and given his port departure clearance from Ushuaia.
Some weeks later said Captain was, on his return to Ushuaia - berated by the same port official and accused of lying when the saw the Falkl Islands in the ships port registry log - To which the Captain replied - well you never asked me If I was going to the Falkland Islands- where are the malvinas!!
I imagine the other football team were also mystified! Who cares a F*** what some childish idiots get up to in their own Country. Suggest they don't try it in Brazil in an official match though - they are a good team and it would be a shame to see them fired out for being dumbos.
I think Argentina should boycott the World Cup. We've done it before, THREE TIMES in fact, because we don't give a fark about the rest of the world. 1950, 1958, and 1962. It robbed Di Stefano from playing in the World cup for Argentina.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina should boycott much more often like we did in the past.
Argentina also boycotted in 1978...even though the country hosted it,
Jun 08th, 2014 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The winning team was Argentin under the Junta...which we know has nothing to do with real Argentina.
P.s.
Trolley, your isolationist shite is hilarious, it makes you look a complete penis.
Please stop importing medicines and vaccines
Please stop important medical equipment and technologies
Please stop importing military hardware
Please stop importing information technology
Please stop importing communications technology
The world can do without your corned beef, soy oil and tasteless red wine.
That way we would be spared your ignorant written diahorrea. Hopefully someone close to you would not have access to life saving medical technology, and your ability to threaten and bully UK citizens on the Falklands would be eliminated.
After you all finally drowned in your self induced stone age like cesspit, it wouldn't be a bad geological landscape for probably Brazil to expand into.
Hey, islanders and English. These fools not typical of my country. Only no education people fall for this stupid stuff. They are very intimidated by educated English people who they see superior, and so many ashamed of humiliating 1982. It just a way to wave their very short members. They dont have anything else to make proud and fall for mindly games of silly cow president. Other idiots here from my country are what you call loser wierdos. So dont mind.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@73
Jun 08th, 2014 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We know, it its fun to laugh at the “loser weirdos”...we understand they are not typical Argentines.
I don't speak or understand Spanish so I had to do a Google translation of “LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS” and the translation in English and presumably every other language in the world is “Argentine Vineyards are Poorly” or “Argentine Vineyards are bad”.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What I don't understand is why the Argentine football team are holding a banner to tell the spectators of a football match that their vines/vineyards/wines are not nice. Have they been poisoned, diseased, rotten? Should I tell my local Tesco and Co-op and Off Licenses. This is worrying. I am very concerned about the health of the farmworkers in Argentina. I shall in future buy Chilean wines. Thanks for the warning. Cheers.
The Anglos are the only race that's proud of being monolingual. Poor sods.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See now, this one obvios not inmy country, actuly in England with inferior compldx. Big langjage, small dick troll
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@73
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very apt “ wave their very short members” you do realise that “ member ” is another name in English for a “cock” or to give it a correct name “ penis ”
I suggest everyone contacts fifa on the website, and report the incident as a serious breech of FIFA guidelines, and that you expect a full report on what the association is going to do about it, and that precedents have been set with France.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its not worth arguing with the monkeys when you can go straight to the organ grinder.
Troll with the hunches.
Jun 08th, 2014 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You profess Isolationism.
Why do you not enact it,rather than trying (hopelessly) to engage on this website.
Surely you should practice what you preach?
It would be nice if the NorthAmian team came out in the world cup with a banner saying something like “Enough! No more mass killings and war zones in the USA. We want peace!”
Jun 08th, 2014 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://news.yahoo.com/2-officers-3-others-dead-las-vegas-shooting-232556307.html
That would be touching.
...and yet you Argentines murder pretty much as many of each other as the Americans (proper Americans) do.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@82
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0The difference is in 95% of murders in Argentina, those involved HAVE a prior relationship (amorous, financial, drug dealing, or gang). HUGE difference when the victim and criminal know what's coming.
In NorthAmia, you can be eating at a mall, watching a movie in a theater, be a six year old in a classroom, or walking in the middle of a university and the next thing you know your brain is oozing on the ground, thanks to someone you NEVER met.
That is far more damning, frightening, and perturbing.
So what you're saying is that Argentina has a much higher criminal population than America (proper America).
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@84
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmm... no. You said that, because obviously you didn't think through what you wrote that makes no sense.
A criminal is a criminal whether you know them or not. Duh.
But if Americans have mass shootings that means they don't have as many murderers as Argentina. Or are the Argentinian killers who know their victims also mass murderers???? I don't think they are now are they.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle.
You racist.
Twentyeight...
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Twentysix whining Anglos, two Kelpers and a sparing Aussie ;-)
Think LOL :-)))
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY40__rBvSk
Uhmm... If 3 people are killed at one spot by one loon or NorthAmian (same thing), it is still 3 murders. But yes, theoretically it is possible to assume there could be more actual killers, but in reality by far the majority are first time, and usually done out of passion crimes, which have become very common in the last 10 years. Before that no one killed their lover, but now it happens a lot.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0It has to do with the foreignization of Argentina, both in actual immigrants and the bad influence of EUialand and NorthAmia where such crimes of passion have happened forever.
That is why I fight foreigners, to cleanse what was a society with virtually no murders prior to the 1990s when both the borders literally and culturally were reopened to filthy LatAm, NorthAm, and EUian influence.
Ahhh! I love it. You are soooo special. It's now someone else's fault that Argentina has more murderers than America.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Goodnight Toby; I've got a holiday to book; UK, Germany and Italy. Never been to Germany (apart from transit stops) so I'm looking forward to it.
I have nothing much against you really so don't take what I say to you to heart. I know you believe the Falklands aren't Argentine.
40 ElaineB
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Has someone forwarded the picture to FIFA?”
Fédération Internationale de Football Association. FIFA-Strasse 20, P.O. Box 8044 Zurich, Switzerland Tel : +41-(0)43 222 7777
Please hurry up :-)))))
it's so nice sitting at my computer in the Falkland islands, only to know that where I live was British, is British and it will be forever more (British). Fools sitting over there in that shity country called Argentina are Jealous and very poooey about losing the war in 82, so are trying to justify themselves, very sorry. Ha ha.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0.... anyway ... why are Argentine footballers holding up a banner at a football match that translates to “ARGENTINE VINEYARDS ARE ROTTEN”?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the last two responses prove the timeless adage:
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Britannia, the land education forgot”.
@91:
Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina repeats this stunt during the World Cup, it will be toast. So I hope Messi and his friends are stupid enough to do so.
I hope that Argentina is that dumb, as they are subject to the following FIFA Rules
Jun 09th, 2014 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Regulations 2014 FIFA World Cup BrazilTM
22 Equipment
1. The participating member associations shall comply with the FIFA Equipment
Regulations in force. The display of political, religious or personal messages
or slogans in any language or form by players and officials on their playing or
team kits, equipment (including kit bags, beverage containers, medical bags
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etc.) or body is prohibited. The similar display of commercial messages and
slogans in any language or form by players and officials is not allowed for the
duration of their time at any official activity organised by FIFA (including in the stadiums for official matches and training sessions, as well as during official press conferences and mixed-zone activities).
94 Tobe
Jun 09th, 2014 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you think that your neighbours are so inferior, why don't you leave Mercosur?
If you think that Europe and North America are no inferior, why you're here?
Your “we-dont-care-about-the-world” is comical. Argentines are obsessed with foreign opinion about them, bordering psychosis, and so as you. You're in an English website, trying to convice the others that you're country is not that bad.
This stunt is conceived by a nation of arrogant dwarfs! The only good thing about Argentina is their rugby team, the Pumas who are gentlemen and they would never mix politics and sport. FIFA should be in the face of the Argentine football management.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Six more Engrish (and three Ex-Colonial) whiners in decreasing order of turnipness…:
The Daily Mail…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
The Mirror…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
The Express…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
The Telegraph…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
The Independent…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
The Times…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
(And now, the Ex Colonials;-)...:
The Irish Independent…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
The Hong Kong Standard…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
The “Free” Scotman…:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651961/Argentina-players-pose-banner-proclaiming-The-Falklands-Argentine-World-Cup-warm-match.html
Sooooooooooooooooo much whine for a little banner…
Yet another nail in the Engrish diplomatic coffin in the South Atlantic…
Think
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me, just how much closer is Argentina to gaining sovereignty over the Falkland Islands?
In fact your sovereignty claims have stagnated and not moved so much as a nanometre closer to your stated goal.
All your government has achieved is making you and the Argentine people poorer and themselves richer. And yet, like Pavlov's dog, you salivate whenever they ring the 'Malvinas' bell.
All your government has achieved is making Argentina the clown of the international community.
The Falkland Islands belong to the Falkland Islanders. They want to remain a British Overseas Territory. They will remain a British Overseas Territory long after Argentina has descended into anarchy and civil war, and eventually ceases to exist.
The best you can hope for is for either Chile or Brazil to invade you and save you from yourselves, but quite frankly they don't care enough about you to want to help you.
Poor Think. Living in one of the few countries in the world that is regressing instead of developing.
I think, looking at the above photo, that the Argie team had no choice but show the banner. The problem will come when they ( footballers ) return to play in Europe. very unforgiving the fans of English football.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0#99
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0To suggest the “English” are whining is rich. All Argentina do is fucking whine about “the Malvinas”, this latest “stunt” being an excellent example. Argentina whine to every country or organisation they can find, apart from the only one that could actually do something.
If Argentina pull this kind of shit in a world cup game they better be kicked out. On the other hand I have no delusions that would actually happen, FIFA don't give a damn about rules (theirs of anyone else's), all they care about is money.
Think must be the most arrogant of all the dwarves in Argentina! ¡Pobrecito!
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0He really thinks that this behaviour is acceptable - ¡loco de m----a!
I know it doesn't change the significance but the people holding the banner are mainly reserve players and youth players / ball boys. They probably got told to do it and couldn't refuse.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still no word from Fifa though
He needs to be careful, demonstrating his grasp of numeracy like that.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Next thing you know, they will offering him Kissitoffs job!
Let's face it, he couldn't do a worse job.
Think, you can add me to your list. I'm Scottish, live in Australia and have joint Australian and British nationality so I'm quite happy to be a whining Anglo, an Aussie or a seperate catagory if you want.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina are making a fool of themselves. As a Scotsman it pains me to say this, but well done to the England football team for their dignified silence.
I can see Turnip at (105) just mentioned my dear lad, Axel Kicillof ....
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Axel, Aka“The Financial Messi” has, during his short term in office, stopped the Financial World's Vultures & Bloodsuckers speculative attack against my beloved Argieland by...:
1) Getting us out of the “ICSID” quagmire…
2) Getting us out of the “INDEC” quagmire…
3) Getting us out of the “PARIS CLUB” quagmire…
4) Getting us out of the “YPF-REPSOL” quagmire…
All of the above whilst applying correct inclusive heterodox economic policies in Argentina like…:
5) Almost stopping food inflation through his “Precios Cuidados” program...
6) Including more than 600,000 older Argentinean into the National Pension System…
7) Raising the ”Per Child Allowance” with nearly 50%...
8) Keeping unemployment down…
That's a nice 8-0 hat-trick from Axel...
Today..., even the Mighty USof A bows for him…
PS…: (for Anglolatino and other fairies out there)
Did I ever mention that he’s much cuter in person than in pictures?
#76
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Anglos are the only race that's proud of being monolingual. Poor sods.
Of course we are. We don't need to learn other languages when YOU are forced to learn English to correspond with the civilised world. What use is Spanish to anyone ?
#94
The old adage Argentina,“ the land where education has still to arrive”
(107) Clyde15
Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Of course we are. We don't need to learn other languages ....”
I say...:
You would personally be lost without Latin, you little truth twisting lowlander botanist...
Haven't you got anything constructive to do, Turnip farmer, er l mean Think?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0You sound like a trainspotter counting carriages.
Or are you counting your growing turnips?
l, personally couldn't care less what the RG football team do.
And as for their desperate childish message, well.......its not true, as any atlas will tell you.
Nor is it ever likely to be true.
Far more likely(hopefully)that Argentina will disappear. pouf!
Go & brush your dog or something else useful, Think.
Stop counting or your turnip, l mean head, might explode.
lts not used to positive thinking.
Thirtyone ...
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Twentyseven whining Anglos, two Kelpers ,one Pomette and a sparing Aussie ;-)
Speaking about Pomettes...
Don't worry about me Isolde luuuuv...
Plenty of things to do here.... Polishing my L.R.F. techniques & mastering that bloody stylus on the new Note 10.1 at the moment...
By the way.... Brushing the dogs is something City Slikers, Poms & Fairies fancy to do, not Patagonians...
Ask any Camp Kelper if you don't believe me...
Dream on you aspripng colonists.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Turnip at (112)
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“...aspripng colonists”
I say...:
...aspripng colonists ?
Do you mean aspiring PNG Colonists?
Talk to Isolde... ;-)
I sincerely hope they bring out their banner for every match they play. Its the sort of thing Iran, North Korea would try and pull off. Suits them to a T.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0This from a bunch of spoiled-brat millionaires who have their money safely stashed out of the country and most of whom don't even live here.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0grandpa clyde
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ We don't need to learn other languages when YOU are forced to learn English to correspond with the civilised world. ”
it is not just a question of needs, it is a cultural thing.
the americans understood they have to learn spanish to be integrated with the mexicans and the latino community.
the same in south america, we understood we have to learn portuguese for having a better communication with brazil.
but the important thing about learning languages is that you can understand other people´s culture in a better way.
not by chance you islanders are as isolated as your gentilic indicates
#109
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would I need to learn Latin? All I have to do is remember the names...no grammar required.
By the way, what has happened to your chum A-Voice ?
I was at Benmore on 1st June and spoke with Peter Baxter whom A-Voice knows well. I told him everything he had revealed about himself and that he had been in his house, that he knew his wife and had lived in the area for ages. He could not think who it was....it did not ring any bells.
I am confused as I believed everything Voice had said. Any clues ?
City Slikers, Do you mean Slickers ? and I assume you meant #108 not#107
@70
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Reminds me of the summer of 2013 when a bolsie Argentine Harbour Official asked the Captain of a cruise ship- “was he going to the Malvinas Islands?” - to which question the Scottish Captain replied - no he was not. - whereupon he was thanked by the Argie and given his port departure clearance from Ushuaia.
Some weeks later said Captain was, on his return to Ushuaia - berated by the same port official and accused of lying when the saw the Falkl Islands in the ships port registry log - To which the Captain replied - well you never asked me If I was going to the Falkland Islands- where are the malvinas!!”
Lol
The need for the Argentine football team to unfurl political propaganda only goes to show how ineffective their politicians and government are, if they need the football team to play politics.
Hope for football's sake they don't swop roles as the Argentines would get a hammering-where would Gollum play?-I assume Maximo would be the goalie.
@ Think
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whiners? I think it is great that Argentina have tried this stunt. It symbolises the irrationality, desperation and obsession that this particula country has for the Falklands.
I would like to know what Third World irredentism+colonialism has to do with football?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
(117) Clyde15
Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You ask...:
“By the way, what has happened to your chum A-Voice ?”
I say...:
More of your “local chum” really, if memory serves me right...
I reckon that he, as many other intelligent posters before him ( Like Mr. PomInOz or Mr. DoveOverDover, just to mention a couple) lost interest in MercoPress's special “micro-ecosystem”...
(119) M_of_FI
It's Malvinas, dearKelper boy................................ M A L V I N A S.
The photo fails to show is that each and everyone one of those immigrants were promised a free ride on the botox queen-Stunts, that's all these paupers have they behave like spoiled kids having tantrums wanting something they will never have,just like THINK poncing in a North European country because Argentina is to much of a shit hole to live in POOOOOOOOOOOOOOR THINK hope you don't get to cold and lonely in Scandinavia you piece of shit
Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@108
Jun 09th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess you were FORCED to eat non-English food, since there is none that's worth even sniffing at. Certainly you as a country would not be in the civilized world if you just were forced to stick to your “aboriginal” foods.
Thanks for your amazing logic, foolish anglo.
falklands will never belong to argentina. typical stunt by the argentinian muppet government.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Real sportsmen do their talking on the pitch , not by holding out stupid political banners about wars over insignificant islands their countries have lost . Can you imagine the Germans holding one up saying “ The Danzig corridor is German ” ?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 123 tRoll_with_the_Punches
Jun 09th, 2014 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/restaurants/10793325/Worlds-Best-Restaurants-2014-the-top-50-in-full.html
You may care to note that three UK restaurants figure in the list - Argentina “brilla por su ausencia”.
Talk the talk girls, soon time to walk the walk.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then we shall see.
My gosh!
Jun 09th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haven't seen Think so animated since that occasion the Botox Queen's nickers fell down.
Little things please little minds..
We'll that sorts it out for me. If they have got a banner then the Islands have to be Argentine, it trumps things like international law, international treaties, UN resolutions and referendums.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not like they let just anyone have a banner.
Idiotas como el Sr. Piense, or as he is known in Chubut, Sr Penis, are loving things like this because it makes them feel homly. Such signs and banners everwhere in Arg. Brainwashing, like in that exellent English book 1984. Dont believe all Args are like him, theyr not. We like England, Fish and Chips etcetera.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, old chap why are you so rabid over this little issue? Yes its irritated a few on our side of the fence, but really its more of a laugh and a joke!
Jun 09th, 2014 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely even you will agree that open signs of politics and race etc have NO PLACE in sport. Thus teams should never partake in it - it just shows them to be immature. And usually backfires- remember the Olmypic stunt?
Fans - a different issue and there are plenty of unpleasant fans on both sides I suspect. Still the minority but they always get the headlines over the decent peaceful majority on both sides.
Paulcedron- do check facts before opening mouth and inserting feet!¬You can hear at least 3 languages be spoken any day in supermarkets here! Over 20 different nationalities living here and mixing with each other.
@ 130 Dozy Malvista
Jun 09th, 2014 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please oh please do not try and dispel any stereotypes this close to a world cup!
We are already making banners saying we own Patagonia.
Try again in Sept or so, till then all Argys are BARSTARDS.
“argentinos maricones, perdieron las Falklands por huevones”
As they sing in Chile.
We are not alone, we are legion.
@121 - Think
Jun 09th, 2014 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am fully aware of the name of the islands I was born in and currently live, and it is Falkland Islands.
Keep dreaming Think.
121 Think
Jun 09th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Think,
“argentinos maricones, perdieron las Malvinas por huevones”
Is that better?
why are all English people like leaches stealing other nations wealth ???? “las Malvinas son Argentinas” that's all you need to know, fakland is another company like coca cola or nike, and yes it is british move their head office back home to UK we all agree fakland company is all 100% brutish, we Argentines don't fear murderous english thieves and child molesters, UK trash do us all a favor and die like the filthy pigs you all are.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its amazing how hysterical Argentina gets over its claim to the Falkland Islands when its claim is SO weak. I mean does anyone else think its all a bit odd and unnatural? There must be other countries with stronger claims to other lands which don't behave this way. There seems to be some sort of national psychosis which infects them. I mean really? It was a weak claim to begin with. The same logic that says Argentina should inherit the Falklands because they were both formerly Spanish would apply to most of Latin America. Why dont they make a claim for Cuba or even Majorca? :-) Why the constant whining? It's a really unhealthy, childish way for a nation to behave. Grow up and get some class!
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#123
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are you talking about. I looked at my post and nowhere does it mention anything about food.
You have said that “you were FORCED to eat non-English food, since there is none that's worth even sniffing at”. Actually there is some non-English ( British) food that is worth eating even though you decry it. New Zealand lamb is good as are Chilean apples and grapes...in the market now.
We have access to food from all parts of the world which is more than you have. For all I know, there may be some Argentinian food that is worth eating although your diet seems to consist of red meat and little else.
My knowledge of this subject has been gained from internet pages.
The British diet, when put to the test, was good enough for our troops to travel 8000 miles and still knock the crap out your people fed on Argentina's finest.
As an adolescent who lives in the foothills of the Andes about 30 day's trek by Llama to B.A. ,what do you know about any other country's food.
All you know about life in the big outside world you glean from books, internet or T.V. So your postings are of NO academic value.
Let me see “civilized world”...that means the world excluding Argentina.
@ Pirat-Hunter, You need to look at your own disgusting history your a land of immigrants murdering bastards even NUNS were not safe in the shit hole you call Argentina.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just wondering if your beloved evil Nazi ass licking Botox Queen THINKING about introducing the one way charter flights anytime soon.
freedom of speech is only for white english people ???? really! really !! wow the true color of racism is staring to show the real problem on this earth are the enlish people, where an Adolf Hitler when you need one to target the filthiest scum bags on earth.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@135 Your problem is that you can't explain why the Falklands might be Argentine. Two illegal brief occupations of 1833 and 1982 don't make a sovereignty case. Nor does proximity.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@135 Pirat-Hunter
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All this from a Créole planter who stole what he now euphemistically calls Argentina, from the Indians.
When is Argentina Plc moving back to where it came from???
After all you’re not from S. America, not even S. American, where is your head office????
Oh and you certainly do fear us, because you know we can walk the walk.
Whereas you just talk the talk.
Hence when you do run into us, it’s you who does the dying, “like the filthy pigs you all are”.
#139
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long time no hear. Glad to see you are keeping up the world's perception of Argentine diplomacy and reasoned debating skills
BREAKING NEWS it seems the ARGENTINE IMMIGRANTS OF EUROPEAN ORIGIN made a grave mistake with the published photo-apologies have now been forwarded and the right photo published-so all's well that ends well https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=243840599149058&set=p.243840599149058&type=1
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it amusing that Argentina wants the Falklands so badly, yet there's absolutely nothing they can do to get them (the invasion didn't really work out did it?). They'll be holding up that same banner at the 2114 world cup......... Now that's funny.....
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@136 Ever since Juan Peron chose The Falklands as the utopian dream to unite a very disparate country, generations have been brainwashed into believing that if they take the Falklands then everything will be magical and perfect in Argentina. Even Peron is quoted at the time as saying he doubted the peasants would swallow it. They did and each generation is inculcated with the myth from birth and it is reinforced in state schools. (Look at some of the videos kindergarteners have to watch). CFK, in particular, has tapped into this fantasy imbedded in the psyche of the not very bright - her demographic.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The reason she has exploited the footballers is that they rely on government funding. Most clubs are broke because of rampant corruption. Football for All saved many clubs from bankruptcy and provided free entertainment for the CFK supporters. The ad breaks are full of government propaganda.
I am not sure why TTT is overexcited, he has said many time he thinks the Falkland Islanders should decide their own fate. The most sane thing he has ever written.
And you have to give Think a break. He has been absent from so many threads because even he could not defend the disastrous news coming out of Argentina of late. Now he is showing us he can count in double figures. We are all very impressed, aren't we?
@Pirat-Hunter ,How amusing talking about Nazis like Adolf Hitler surely you should have no problem finding one Argentina is full of the murdering bastards
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing wrong in whining-and dining,
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The brits are here, and all sound charming,
The Argies complain, with the hunter in tow
Outside the restaurant desperately looking in,
At the whining brits singing win win win,
Poor little Argies always in the news,
And they always wonder, why they always lose..
.
(131) Islander1
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Surely even you will agree that open signs of politics and race etc have NO PLACE in sport.”
I say...:
No, I don’t agree… I don't agree at all.
More people should have openly stood against this in 36…:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNKlxcqLKcM
Like this brave Yanks did in 68…:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNKlxcqLKcM
More people should have openly stood against this in 78…:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNKlxcqLKcM
Like this brave Kiwis did in 81…:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNKlxcqLKcM
Sports IS politics..., a concept perfectly know and utilized by you Kelpers by, for example, sending 5% of your total population to “Represent” you in some minor Sports events around the world...
LIFE is politics…
Get used to it...
#141 you are all lucky I am not the president of Argentina.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#140 I don't need to explain it, nor does any Argentine, just look at your world map. google fakland island holdings and islas Malvinas, notice Malvinas is a name given to an Argentine island and the other is a british firm. neither USA
nor UK like illegal aliens why should we ??
#138 LOL he who is with out sin cast the first stone, I wonder how many Argentines are killing civilians in Libya, Siria and Ukraine now? if you consider how many Argentines fought in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya you can conclude that at least in our case murder is just history, I am sure you understand, if not well isn't that so very convenient.
#138
62 wrote ”
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would be best for all sides if you just took your embassies and your institutions (IMF, etc), and left us alone. WE DON'T WANT DEALINGS WITH YOU. We push you away at every turn, cant you see!?” But your nut bag president is already spending the money they want the world to lend them. Of course she and Boudou will probably skim a bit off the top for themselves.
you are all lucky I am not the president of Argentina
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0go on, give us all a laugh, try it you might even get to like it..lolol
@142 it's good to see you too, I am really looking forward into engaging in good honest constructive debate.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@144 LOL we all agree, fakland island holdings is a british firm and belongs in UK the players sign is about islas Malvinas Argentina an argentine islands called Malvinas, whats the beef ?? who is whining ?? just a fact.
#145 juan peron was president of Argentina 100 years after luis vernet named islas Malvinas as the running governor, I guess you read wakypedia eh! you must be huge because you seem to be full of it. and messi doesn't live on government hand out or cupons the guy makes millions playing in spain.
#146 wasn't mr Adolf Hitler from Europe ?? the place where most nurderers have roots ??
#147 yes it's true I rather go eat outside with dogs and pigs then share the table with child molesters and murderers.
#148 until yesterday no one knew what Malvinas was in the next few months many will know where Malvinas Argentinas are..and many will say those damn brits Again! the english are about to unite the world again.
#150 its the way the world works you must google and read “four steps to damnation” I would agree to pay IMF back if I didn't know the theft was written into the contract, but I do know it was theft and so I would refuse to pay.
LOL and still these Argentine peasants come back for more they are like RATS coming up from the sewers
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 139 Pirat-Hunter
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are not the original Pratt-Junta, all he ever wanted was a nuclear bomb 100% made in The Dark Country, but he hid out in Canada.
Plus he couldn't string two cohesive words together.
So where are you from La Camping It Up?
@Pirat-Hunter SAYS “Messi doesn't live on government hand out or cupons the guy makes millions playing in Spain”
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently just like your beloved leader Kirchner a thief that's how he makes his money
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2013/06/12/lionel-messi-sued-for-5-million-in-unpaid-income-taxes/
Now who was it in South America that described ALL Argentines as Thieves and Liars?????
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2013/06/12/lionel-messi-sued-for-5-million-in-unpaid-income-taxes/
@149
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“#141 you are all lucky I am not the president of Argentina.”
Hope you get elected-you would launch a suicide attack giving our boys the excuse to wallop three of your nearest airfields off the map, sink your remaining ships that actually float so you will put your disingenuous claims away for a further 50 years-by which time the Falklands will be an independent country.
Wow, I'm outraged.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Earlier this year, the former Uruguayan president was walking in Buenos Aires when he was stopped by a young Argentine in the street. “Look,” said the man, “you know what? You were right.” That story is not surprising; when the scandal over the president’s comments broke, I called a good Argentine friend of mine and asked him whether most Argentines even disagreed with Batlle’s description. “Ché Marito,” he said cheerfully, “of course we think we’re a bunch of thieves and liars. What makes us mad is that a Uruguayan would say so.”
Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FIFA has confirmed it will investigate the display of a political banner by the Argentina squad at the weekend. ~ FIFA, which does not allow political messages during matches, has confirmed to Sky Sports News it will review the incident which could lead to a punishment for Argentina....'
Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9343196/fifa-confirm-probe-argentinas-malvinas-banner
“FIFA has confirmed it will investigate the display of a political banner.....”
Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Coooooooooooooooool man!
More free publicity for “Las Malvinas son Argentinas”...
The Official FIFA investigation will surely be concluded before the initial kick og Qatar 2022
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
This Argentine SCUM needs putting in its place NOW-I notice how they behaved like mice when they came to London 2012 to leave with 1 bronze medal and how there women hockey players looked and smelt like LEZZERS
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@135
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ooh! But you ARE scared of the English. What did you do in ! 1982? You surrendered en massive to a minority force from over 8000 miles away because, yes, you were SCARED!.
So don't come on here shouting your mouth off now. You were scared then and you are scared now.
Fool.
#151 a fleet of nuclear subs and long range missiles made in Argentina would put islas Malvinas back in the political table, and with problems brewing in Russia and China over Ukraine and Taiwan I can assure you that its just matter of time.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#153 all this because Argentine players support a national struggle ? doesn't freedom of speech grant you the right to protest in a civil manner ?? what is next? ban homosexual flags at events ?? you sound so conveniently bias.
#154 happy to disappoint you because it sounds like you have a crush on some guy who's handle nick sounds like mine, but if he wants nukes for Argentina he must be a smart man.
www.businessinsider.com.au/what-a-chinese-invasion-of-taiwan-would-look-like-2014-6
www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/china-taiwan-relations/2014/06/07/409576/China-develops.htm
www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/plan-send-uk-troops-joint-3623807
#155 I'll take your words and add mine to them and we get a story that goes like this, there is a home that can only be shared among three of five people one of them is you who gets to decide who goes and who stays, you have a liar and a thieve who are argentine and a child molester and a serial killers who are brits, c my point now ?
#156 provided you have a chance to defend yourself ! I mean no one can stop another nation from building a nuclear defence program nor can anyone prevent them from using that program for a surprise attack on a small island somewhere in EU like say UK. we can give it a practice run on Malvinas Argentinas to suck UK into giving us a reason for a first strike. you do remember that UK nor fakland company knew anything until Argentines where sitting and broadcasting from Puerto Argentino, in any case you shouldn't wait for the e-mail, mean time why don't you figure how many nukes you would need to kill all Argentines and how many can cover both islas Malvinas and UK, enjoy it because I sure did.
#159 why is FIFA getting into politics ? truth is illegal ? whats next WMD?
ooooooh. don't say molester with this bunch...could get messi!
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@148 Think
Jun 10th, 2014 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's a difference between politics and petulance...
@161 Andy65
Didn't realise the Argentine woman's hockey team were all gay. Nor do I care. I DO know that they are gorgeous looking women who are pretty damn good at hockey. I DIDN'T know that it was possible to detect dykes by smell alone. Is your gaydar located in your nose? Remarkable!
#163
Jun 10th, 2014 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting spat of delusion you have here....
I can assure you that Argentina would have between zero and no chance of having nuclear arms made available to herself. First of all it contravene the south Atlantic non nuclear and zone off peace treaty.
You are correct that no one can stop creating its own nuclear arsenal however the international outcry and sanctions would cripple an already half dead dog.
Second what would your neighbours think off this bold and some might say idiotic strategy?
Freedom of speech and right to protest is down to the residing country but as it's a FIFA event they have their own rules regarding political statements being made at matches .
For example at a World Cup FIFA becomes it's own country within the host nation,with its own policing and rules..So no bueno for you there.
Interesting to think that Argentina has no child molesters or muderers in its country? Sorry you have, you shipped about half of the remaining third reich into your county after the war and gave them cushy admin roles.
Did you ever get to meet mengele?
@152
Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0A serious question: If you were the President of Argentina, what changes would you make to the FALKLAND ISLANDERS to improve their lives?
I wait your reply but will not hold my breath.
Tell you what though , if I was given free laptops , free football on the telly , barbeques and great big glasses of malbec to go with it , I'd spout this sort of crap all day long too .
Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's face it , it beats working , and that ladies and gentlemen , is Argentina's problem in a nutshell .
#166 delusion is to believe anyone sticks to those treaty, not too long ago a president was hung for none existent WMD and another one was assassinated by terrorists for no apparent reason, other then oil.
Jun 10th, 2014 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pakistan, india, iran, Israel and north korea build a nuclear program under sanctions and threats and most of them don't even have none of the resources needed.
there is no politics there just a shirt with national symbols, the only politics is FIFA telling us what kind of shirts we should wear, why stop there why not ban gay flags or just do away with flags all together, we can all wear black or white shirts in all games that way we don't under mind anyone at all.
no I never met Mengele but I heard he was born educated and did all of his work in Europe the land that gived him the power and came to die in south America worth less, he was probably in south America as a tourist like most child molesters and murderers, and thank GOD they got admin roles and died quietly because someone did gived them real power in Europe and you got the holycause.
@161
Jun 10th, 2014 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0What does a “lezzer” smell like? and, more interestingly, how do you know?
@165
Spot on
#163
Jun 10th, 2014 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0You do not have the technology nor money to pursue such a goal just now nor in the foreseeable future.
#163/156
One thing the UK is not is militarily stupid. We are rather good at the dark arts of code breaking and would know well in advance of any facile attempts to “first strike” the UK. By the time Argentina acquired nuclear capability-if ever-we would have anti-ballistic missile cover negating your attempts.
You seem to be advocating the mass death of the British and Argentine population. Does this fulfill some fantasy you have. Will it help the Argentinian people. You sound mad ! I presume you have run a poll in B.A. and other major population centres who replied in the affirmative.
Yes, we will gladly destroy our country and die to wipe out the UK and the Falklands.
Remember, your government says that S.America is a nuclear free zone and should remain so. Do you think Brazil will let you have nuclear weapons if they don't
He's a raving looney, Clyde
Jun 10th, 2014 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0How did “ Messi ” get his nickname anyway ? is it because he doesn't tidy up after himself , you know , leaving towels on the floor , etc ?
Jun 10th, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Clyde15
Jun 10th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pirat-Hunter is just staying true to form. He has this fixation that if...just IF...Argentina had nuclear weapons then the whole world would roll over and do everything that they say.
I did spell out to him just how expensive nuclear weapons are, not just the intital outlay to develop them, then develop a system to deploy them, but the maintenance of them too. I think the ball park figure to develop the weapons (for the UK) was over £12 billion. Added to that is an annual maintenance cost of £280 million. None of those costs includes the security required to ensure the safety of the weapons from foreign powers, saboteurs and terrorists, or the infrastructure to house the weaponry.
Given Argentina's track record of not even being able to maintain their conventional weapons, then any nuclear capability they acquired is far more likely to kill Argentinians rather than any 'perceived' enemy, due to shoddy shielding, and basic neglect.
And as you rightly said, there is NO WAY that Brazil or Chile would allow Argentina to have nuclear weapons. Argentina is too unstable and arrogant for such weapons. They'd probably invade Argentina to prevent that happening.
Also, Pirat-Hunter doesn't understand the simple truth behind nuclear weapons. Namely, that if you use them on someone else without provocation, then everyone else who had nuclear weapons would probably wipe you off the face of the earth as an act of self defence, because they wouldn't know who was next.
Also, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (that has been signed by Argentina- I know, I know Argentina and treaties) would ensure that any attempt by Argentina to develop nuclear weapons, would see them ostracised by the international community, and facing sanctions similar to those that Iran and North Korea face.
In other words Argentina would be finished, completely, totally and utterly.
Argentina with nuclear weaponry is like Messi admitting he dived when a penalty is given...........it's never going to happen!
Jun 10th, 2014 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina with a nuke.
Jun 10th, 2014 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm, bit like trusting a baby to play with a razor blade!
Anyone that believes that the World Cup doesn't involve a degree of politics is either naive or just plain stupid....
Jun 10th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“At least twenty world leaders will attend the World Cup; eleven the opening match in Sao Paulo”
At least twenty world politicians attending....
2018...Russia
2022....Middle Eastern country
2026....let me make an educated guess.....China
What a perfect place to make a political statement, but it would be a good idea to make sure it was before the actual official opening ceremony....wait a minute....;-)
#169
Jun 10th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahh i see the treaty is only in place until Argentina has the financial resources to drop it like a stone....so much for Latam brotherhood, peace and security.. At least you've admitted Argentina is a fair weather friend... Hang on didn't they switch sides six months before WWII finished?
Saddam Hussein was a mass murderer, so he had it coming sooner or later whether it was the end of a noose or a long jail term courtesy of the ICJ.
Gaddafi wasn't killed by terrorists, he's was killed by the very people he persecuted and killed.
Pakistan, India and Israel as far as I know are not under political or economic sanctions in regards to their missile program.
Iran and North Korea are but they aren't the most stable of countries to deal with. do you want to join that club?
No read what the stipulations FIFA demand during their events. Brazil had problems with the sale of alcohol being prohibited at stadiums but FIFA demand it. They had to pass legislation through to have a temporary lifting of the ban. They even have specific criminal charges over people advertising at their events put into the host countries law.
Shame you didn't meet mengele... How about eichmann? Your missing the point, the absolute scourge of society and you welcome them with open arms.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/abuse-victims-want-pope-francis-to-open-argentina-files-1.1320446
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/abuse-victims-want-pope-francis-to-open-argentina-files-1.1320446
So none of this happens in Argentina no?
Also you said holy cause in relation to the holocaust? That wasn't a Freudian slip now was it? Your hand doesn't go into dr strangelove mode once in a while?.?
@149 Pratt-Junta
Jun 10th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“you are all lucky I am not the president of Argentina”
BAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
And exactly what would or could you do if you were????
You girls won’t take us on, you don’t have the balls for it, from the President down.
LMFAO
Oh and Argentina with, or trying to develop, Nukes would be far more of a danger to itself that to anyone else.
It would only take one of your own warheads going off, all accidental like, to put Argentina back beyond the early stone-age and down the evolutionary tree.
Go ahead, try and acquire them, I dare you!!!
163 Pirat-Hunter (#)
Jun 10th, 2014 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#151 a fleet of nuclear subs and long range missiles made in Argentina would put islas Malvinas back in the political table
wow, so when will air-fix deliver these nuclear weapons,
you live in cuckoo land old boy.
(165) Heisenbergcontext
Jun 10th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting on my post (148) you say...:
“There's a difference between politics and petulance...”
I say...:
Indeed there is....
The Black Power Salute by Tommie Smith & John Carlos on the 1968 Summer Olympics was pure, unadultered politics.
The reaction of Conservative WASP America against them was pure, unadultered petulance.
The Anti-Apartheid Kiwi riots against the Springbok Tour in 1981 were pure, unadultered politics.
The branding of the ANC and Mr. Nelson Mandela as terrorists by the Conservative WASP British Prime Minister was pure, unadultered petulance.
The unfurling of that “Las Malvinas Son Argentinas” banner by the Argentinean Football National Team was pure, unadultered politics.
The pathetic efforts of a Northern hemisphere WASP Former Empire to claim some 12,000,000 km2 in the Southern Hemisphere using as excuse the “Human Rights” of some 2,500 British Colonists is, as you surely will have guessed by now..., pure, unadultered petulance.
Who's claiming 12,000,000 km2 in the Southern Hemisphere? We have 12,000,000 km2 in the Southern Hemisphere, and we've had it for centuries. Some more recent Northern Hemisphere arrivals in the Southern Hemisphere seem to think there's something wrong with this, though they have yet to put forward an argument that hinges on anything more rational than a sense of entitlement based on ethnic hostility.
Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently this is what passes for politics in certain quarters.
Still laughing at Argies and especially at some of the Argie fantasy comments here.
Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brilliant!
The poor, deluded fools!
Bahahaha!
181. Think - Do you actually read what your writing? Are you actually putting your ridiculous yet trivial claim to the Falklands on par with Black Civil rights and the struggle against Apartheid? Are you actually saying that?
Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...Really?
... Really?
I hate the proposed UK shopping bag tax but I'm not likely to pull out a banner about it at a world cup.
Surely Argentina is more than an asylum full of hysterical drama queens!
You are truly lost if you keep expending all this emotional energy on something your never, ever going to get.
Just as an exercise for 5 mins try imagining a world where Argentina never gets to possess the Falklands. How does that feel? Does the entire Argentine psyche collapse? Or maybe it's liberating. Maybe you'd feel better if you accept reality and free yourself of the toil of this terrible emotional baggage. Trust me...accept and move on. You'll feel an awful lot better. :-)
@184 Cognito,
Jun 10th, 2014 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your description of Argentina “being more than an asylum of hysterical drama queens” made me laugh & its so fitting.
They are hysterical drama queens when it comes to the Falklands.
Still giggling.
184 Cognito
Jun 11th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0They feel at their best now. They don't want to stop their pseudo claim and they don't want to realise it. They're in their comfort zone just whining about it with all the impotence of a gay man with no testicles. If they truly believed they had a case they'd make it.
Have you ever seen a small dog on a lead that decides to chastise the German Shepard as they pass on the street? As long as the small dog's lead is nice and secure and it's owner is holding it back, it gives the German Shepard an earful. The German Shepard just keeps half a bemused eye on it as they pass. If that German Shepard got off its lead the small dog would run for its life.
It's similar to when those pesky P3s test out the FICZ from time to time. One day they're going to get it wrong and fuck up badly.
@181 Think
Jun 11th, 2014 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the first World Cup Brazil has hosted in three score + four years, the first in your continent in thirty-four. The controversies associated with it are many, well documented and ongoing. It doesn't need any more.
There is one thing Argentina does at least as well as any country in the world, and here is an opportunity to demonstrate it. So what do they do? Is there ANY nation or individual in a position to influence the subject that isn't ALREADY aware of a certain sovereignty dispute in the South Atlantic?
Every time your government has an opportunity to demonstrate some class, some genorousity of spirit...they blow it. Like I said - petulant.
The British are used to displaying these banners at matches.
Jun 11th, 2014 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0They might display them wherever there are the world's TV cameras ...
“The Falklands are British”
“Return America to the British”
“Tibet is not Chinese”
“Free the Galapagos”
“Australia is Aboriginal”
“Return Argentina to the Indiginants”
“Mongolia is Really Russian”
“Palestine is a Figment of the Imagination”
“Come to Sunni Syria”
There are SO MANY WAYS to destroy Brasil's World Cup -
Argentina is just showing the world how to do it.
CFK should be recycled..
Jun 11th, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(187) Heisenbergcontext
Jun 11th, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Every time your government has an opportunity to demonstrate some class, some genorousity of spirit...”they blow it.
I say...:
And whom should my government demostrate some “Class & Genorousity of Spirit” to?
The British Crown?
The British Crown that already controls more than half of the Antarctic continent through their loyal Aussie and Kiwi subdits..., but not content with that, also pretends the Chilean and Argentinean sector?
The same British Crown that has during centuries tried to grab even more territories in the Southern Cone?
There isn't ONE anchorage spot in the whole coast of Patagonia that hasn't been “claimed”, at least once, by some Engrish Pirate for some Engrish King and some Engrish Country.....
You will have to excuse my lack of class and generousity of spirit but...... I'm with my government in this one.
@190 Think
Jun 11th, 2014 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To whom should your nation demonstrate some class & generosity of spirit? Why Brazil, of course. It's THEIR World Cup, in case you haven't noticed.
How about some fraternity? Some Latin American brotherhood? Is it too much to ask that Argentina cease nurturing it's angst for a few weeks? The sovereignty dispute is still going to be there after the Cup is over with is it not? Then you can make as many banners as you wish bitching about everything from Henry v111 onwards. Knock yourselves out!
p.s. What's all this 'Engrish' stuff about. A touch of The Vapors? Are you Turning Japanese?
Some say-
Jun 11th, 2014 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Better the British crown
than CFKs crown..
(191) Heisenbergcontext
Jun 11th, 2014 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chotto matte Kudasai.....
AFAIK, the banner episode happened in Argentina...
AFAIK, there are no plans to unfurl any banner in Brasil...
Jaa Ne...
@193 Think
Jun 11th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Such restraint!
Juppppp...
Jun 11th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Class, restraint, fraternity, & generosity of spirit...
That sums it up...
@190 Think
Jun 11th, 2014 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK claimed those parts of Antarctica whilst the Argentinians will still stealing land and butchering the natives who own that land.
The UK's claim to the Antarctic predates Argentina's by decades.
You have no valid claim to Antarctica, no valid claim to the Falkland Islands and are just a bunch of impotent whiners.
Tell me Think, just how long do you have to live in a territory for it to be yours? Because if the Falkland Islanders haven't got the right to live in the Falklands, then NO ONE in Argentina of non-native blood, has the right to live in Argentina either, because the Falkland Islands community predates the formation of the Republic of Argentina.
And despite all your governments crying, whining, crawling, begging and sucking up to other countries you are no closer now to gaining sovereignty of the Falklands than you were in 1833.
All you have done is destroy your own country, squander it's natural resources and persecute the few natives that survived your ancestors genocidal wars.
You must be very proud of yourself.
Nice one Heis., I really think so.
Jun 11th, 2014 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@196 LEPRecon,
Jun 11th, 2014 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doubt that our resident snake will answer you, mate.
He doesn't like it when nailed by the truth.
You also have to remember that he hates us with a passion & will let no chance of mocking us go by, e.g. his use of “Engrish”
l'm sure that he thinks that it annoys us--it doesn't annoy me, it just reminds me to never trust the scoundrel.
Your description of Argentina was spot on.
All this is just a midly amusing storm-in a tea-cup.
Jun 11th, 2014 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone else's family live in a failing State? It's a bit shit really. No, I don't want sympathy. I want action! Venezuela is in crisis.
The Chavistas must go. When they fail, so will the K-gang in Argentina!
Why is Mercopress NOT reporting on the chaos in Venezuela?
People are dying.
The Government is massively corrupt.
There is critical insecurity and constant danger in the streets.
A critical lack of medicine.
The World’s highest Inflation Rate.
A critical lack of basic goods and services.
An ideological take-over leading to a Vene-Cuban form of enforced indentured state-dependency.
Widespread media censorship.
Constant repression of political opposition.
THOUSANDS illegally jailed without trial.
Daily torture and abuse of the Human Rights of the population.
Why does Latin America remain silent?
Why is Mercopress NOT reporting on the chaos in Venezuela?
@197 Geoff
Jun 12th, 2014 - 04:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol. Clever...
@190
Jun 12th, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are still bringing up the past, do you not realise that the UK has moved on since then, they have on the whole given back all the territories it occupied why can't Arjuntina move on. Anyway I still have not heard what Arjuntina can bring to the negociating table. Why not tell the FALKLANDERS what is in store for them and then ask them to the negociating table. Just a thought Think
Tbf the dark arts of code breaking in 82 involved a quick trip to geneva to purchase the model of code machine the argentinan navy used and possibly a stop for a bite of lunch.
Jun 12th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hardly 007's most challenging mission :)
I've been a member of this site for many years, and regularly read the articles and comments, but rarely comment myself. It cracks me up that EVERY article degenerates into the same pointless argument. Not many on here can see things from each others point of view (understandably, different cultures etc), but the point of the article normally gets lost after the first few posts.
Jun 12th, 2014 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On topic, the act of using a banner to provoke discord in an event that's supposed to bring countries together is outrageous, and frankly disgusting.
And no, you can't compare the childish tactics of the Argy footballers to the stand that some took against apartheid, or equal rights for minorities.
If Argentina felt so strongly about this, perhaps they should have boycotted the 2012 Olympics? Now that would be a suitable stand for what they perceive as injustice. Instead they released a disgraceful and offensive advert.
Argentina's stars inflame Malvinas row on eve of World Cup, I think in all World Cup, Brazil 2014!!! Sorry, It said Malvinas not change the name, please!!!
Jun 12th, 2014 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0203 Optical
Jun 13th, 2014 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better still, if Argentina feel strongly about this (because they know they have a good case) perhaps they should make the case in a forum that can have some influence. Perhaps the ICJ.
Was Argentina in the 2012 Olympics?
@204
Jun 13th, 2014 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ It said Malvinas not change the name, please!!!”
Where are these bad Vineyards, bad grapes then? Are you implying the Black Hamburg grapes grown in the governor's greenhouse have gone off?
I have to say I didn't see any other grapevines in the Falklands, and certainly not a whole vineyard.
Did the Argentines plant a secret vineyard in the Falkland Islands then?
Thought you only planted mines?
(203) Optical
Jun 13th, 2014 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been a member of this site for some years too; I regularly read the articles and, on ocassions, comment on them............................
What cracks me up in here are all those haughty Anglos telling us about what they percieve as “Disgusting”..., what they percieve as “ Outrageous”..., what they percieve as “Disgraceful..., what they percieve as ”Offensive“..., what they percieve as ”Suitable“..., what they think ”Can Be Compared With What“..., how strong they believe we feel about the Malvinas” ..., etc., etc., etc.............................................
Them same haughty Anglos that don't even consider THINKING about the oddity of England's territorial pretension of 12,000,000 square kms. in the South Atlantic in the God's year of 2014.................................
#207
Jun 13th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What pretension to 12,000,000 sq. kms. ? I make this a square with sides of 3464 Kms. We have , by right, the Falklands, S.Georgia, S.Sandwich Islands and a bit of Antarctica. Also St.Helena and Tristan da Cunha. All Acquired -(except Antarctica) - l- o-n-g before Argentina was thought of. Furthermore, no indigenous populations were removed in their acquisition.
You have some nerve attributing haughty and boorish behaviour only to the Anglos ! You obviously have not paid attention to the posts of your fellows, your own posts and your government's pronouncements.
So what you are trying to say is that the S.Atlantic waters, all the territories therein and Antarctica rightfully belong to Argentina for no other reason than you want them.
Legality means nothing. We are supposed to hand over the Falklands and the people who have lived there for 180 years, to a basket case of a country whose only claim is “we wants them” ? I think not.
Think #207
Jun 13th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It might be a good idea, Think, if you consistently reminded posters about what you mean by your tag 'Think'. Perhaps a 'strap-line' preceding each and every one of your postings.
I'm pretty 'haughty' and often use your words 'offensive', 'disgraceful', 'outrageous', etc. if I feel strongly about issues. But I must ask you to do as I say (and not as I do), and avoid words like 'pretensions' ... there is no pretension about these South Atlantic ownerships, this is a *fact* that comes with the earliest declaration of ownership and subsequent international agreements about EEZs, etc.
It comes with the 'power to defend': most of the world has reverted ownerships or passed them on to other stronger nations over the passage of time - like Argentina itself.
The EEZs in the South Atlantic are as strong as the ability to defend them, either directly or by virtue of protective agreements with (usually) smaller nations.
Sometimes agreements to defend the integrity of a nation collapse, like in The Ukraine with the US-UK defence agreement - Russia is just too strong *at this point in time* and in the present world circumstances: real politik takes over and the world map changes.
The South Atlantic island groups do not find themselves in this situation because the countries of South America are uniformally and relatively weak, and the UK is actually and relatively strong. The actual area (12M Sq. Km?) is incidental; the same argument applies across the vast areas of the Pacific - the millions of islands and atolls confer exactly the same EEZs, etc., and most of them accrue to the USA as post-WWII protective arrangements.
Why do you not use the larger, global argument, not just your own little parochial complaint.
I remember your most powerful - and remarkably weak - argument a few years back was “because we want them”!
@207
Jun 13th, 2014 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is an anglo presence less legitimate than a latino one?
@207
Jun 13th, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're right, how disgraceful of me to have a different opinion to your good self.
Out of interest, why does the location and year have anything to do with sovereign territory?
We'll never agree on who has the righteous claim to those islands, we obviously read very different history books, so let's not discuss that particular issue. I reckon you've made your point rather clear on that one, but please explain why the location and year is relevant.
Also, let's not forget the point of the article, the fact that your footballers displayed a sign that's been roundly condemned as unsuitable for a sporting event. How would you react if our boys did the same? I imagine an outcry of indignation and fury at those colonial pirates displaying such a inflammatory banner, am I right?
Arjuntina is taking Uruguay to the INTERNATION COURT OF JUSTICE( ICJ ) because Uruguay wants to expand the Botnia Pulp Mill, so why do they not take the sovereignty dispute to the ICJ? Reason, because they know that they do not have a leg to stand on.
Jun 13th, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is a shame that the Argentine soccer team has agreed to be used politically by the TMBOA.... If they all had a pair, they'd tell her to f*ck off.
Jun 13th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also, couldn't help noticing El Think's homosexual little verse at #10....what sort of man (??) posts such stupid shit ??
And Brasileiro, once again @29 & 43....stupid remarks that not even Google translator can fix....
@210 HansNiesund
Jun 13th, 2014 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think is racist?
@212golfcronie
I'm not sure that Argentina will even win the pulp mill dispute but I find it amazing that they will take a 'friend' to ICJ with little chance of winning but not an adversary whom they claim are wrong to 'take their property'-says something about how non existent their case for the Islands is.
(211) Optical
Jun 13th, 2014 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) I didn't, in any way, question your right to differ... I did, however, question your haughtiness...
2) I would luuuv your boys displaing banners against what they think is wrong.... insted of being militarily displayed on different nations of the world to cause even more wrong...
@214
Jun 13th, 2014 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not sure “racist” is the right word. But he certainly seems to labour under some Argentine version of manifest destiny that views any independent anglo presence as illegitimate.
@215
Jun 13th, 2014 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) My apologies if I came across as 'haughty' it was never my intention, I've been enjoying a few glasses of Chilean white while enjoying the football, and perhaps took your response in the wrong way.
2) Not sure where to begin with this one! I assume you're talking about the middle east (ie: Iraq/Afgan), if that's the case you'll find that the majority of the public back in blighty did not agree with that 'war'
Right or wrong, the British controlled areas of Iraq (I can't comment on Afgan, as I have no first hand accounts) had less violence than the US parts. The (majority of) locals welcomed us with open arms. We patrolled ethically, wearing berets instead of tin hats, and made efforts to train the local security forces, despite the constant 'green on blue' attacks.
3) You've very deftly skipped my question, why is the location and year relevant to a dispute over sovereign territory? Colonial ambitions is what made the 'new world' you are all descendants of European colonists and/or African slaves.
“The same British Crown that has during centuries tried to grab even more territories in the Southern Cone?”
Jun 13th, 2014 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No different from Spain's land grabs without which there would be no Argentina today.
“ There isn't ONE anchorage spot in the whole coast of Patagonia that hasn't been “claimed”, at least once, by some Engrish Pirate for some Engrish King and some Engrish Country.....”
I'm not aware of any formal claims, but if there were they had just as much or as little right to make them as Spain had. But whatever claims they made, neither established sovereignty over Patagonia. It was Argentina and Chile that stole Patagonia from its Amerindian peoples, not Spain or the UK.
“Them same haughty Anglos that don't even consider THINKING about the oddity of England's territorial pretension of 12,000,000 square kms. in the South Atlantic in the God's year of 2014.................................”
Argentina is the one with pretensions. The UK has the territories. They were acquired in the 18th, 19th, early 20th centuries when there was nothing odd about it. And given Argentina's attitude towards Falkland Islanders there is no reason whatsoever to cede it any territory, not even uninhabited territory.
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Jun 14th, 2014 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I concur entirely with your above post. They can't solve the problems in their own country so must make it difficult for other countries.
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Jun 14th, 2014 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0l wouldn't apologise to Think for being haughty.
He is the haughtiest creature on these pages.
He gets most annoyed because we won't roll over & submit to Argentina.
His way or the highway(he thinks-ha!).
I am sorry Think, to accuse 'Anglo's' (a racsist comment if I ever heard one!) of being haughty then I respectfully suggest 'you practise what you preach!' This banner is disgraceful and should be acted on by FIFA. The only example I can think of to put forward my position happened at the 2006 Turkish Formula 1GP. The promoter allowed a member of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (a body only Turkey recognises) to present one of the podium trophies on the day. The FIA fined the promoters/National Auto Authority for the breach of the sporting code against the politsising of the sport. IF TMBOA objected so much why didn't Argentina boycott? Oh it's because it's not in England isn't it?
Jun 14th, 2014 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just ban them. No point in fines as they never pay their debts!
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