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Argentina on the war path against Uruguay following re-ignition of pulp mill dispute

Saturday, June 14th 2014 - 09:29 UTC
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Argentina reacted strongly and with a letter in harsh terms to Uruguay's decision to authorize Finland's UPM-Kymmene pulp mill to increase annual production by 8%. The letter addressed by Foreign minister Hector Timerman to his peer Luis Almagro informs Argentina will take the case to international tribunals and is currently 'reassessing' bilateral relations. Read full article

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  • Stevie

    “Argentina on the war path against Uruguay”

    Hahahaha!!!

    Seems the “war” is to be fought on European soil...

    Sensation!!!

    Hahahaha!!!

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    You go Uruguay!

    Be thankful Argentina is taking it to the ICJ. Let the best argument win.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    Another attempt to distract from their own internal problems.

    Guess what, according to INDEC, inflation is down to 1.4%

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    No longer care what happens between argieland and Urineguay. I seem to recall argieland was “immediately” taking this case to the ICJ last year. Never did though. But Urineguay has to agree that the ICJ has jurisdiction! Does look like Urineguay may have the upper hand. May argieland meet with disaster yet again!

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tRoll_with_the_Punches

    The only disaster is going to happen later today in the jungle, but there's not one out of 7 billon people alive that is not expecting it, except you.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    So the Argentine government does know the ICJ exists!

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tRoll_with_the_Punches

    How is the beacon of democracy the UK promised in Iraq going Elaine?

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @7 Why don't you put on your coat and go out to mix with people your own age. You might even get a girlfriend. Surely you wouldn't want your superior DNA to die with you.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Andy65

    @tRoll_with_the_Punches Unfortunately Argentines have NEVER had true democracy,tell us all why every President since your murdering scum bag friends The Nun Killers,The Junta have been accused of corruption or is that just how things are done in Argentina.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tRoll_with_the_Punches

    @8

    Because you keep telling me Argentines are starving as in Somalia, the country is more dangerous than Mossul for a Jew, there is complete disorder and chaos a la Haiti, and there is nothing to see culturally or naturally as the dullest/ugliest nation on Earth.

    It finally got through what you have been saying for the last two years. So why leave my room to see that?

    @9

    So I guess the argies are as unfortunate as the brits, who also have no say in what happens in their country. Corporations, corrupt banks, and Tony Blair decide what happens and you can't change it.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @10 Nope. I haven't said any of those things. You really need to get a grip and some perspective on life. Sitting in your room in your parent's house getting more bitter and full of self-hate is a waste of your life. It is NOT NORMAL behaviour.

    It is a beautiful world out there with endless possibilities. Start living.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tRoll_with_the_Punches

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Quick to use the ICJ against Uruguay but not for 'the Great Malvinas claim.' Chuckle...chuckle.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @12 No, child, I did NOT say any of those things. You seem to be under the illusion that all posters that disagree with you are the same person.

    That you are prepared to waste a whole day of your life to creating a webpage dedicated to me and that you have saved all my posts only indicates you are obsessed with me. You need to get help.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Elaine is trying to convince TTT they share interests...

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tRoll_with_the_Punches

    LOL, not at all. However I do admit you are the most foxy insidious one, because you do have the ability to “wrap” and conceal the inaccuracies and half-truths in your famous “anecdotes” which conveniently you always seem to have one for whichever topic is required.

    This latter is the oldest trick in the book: “I once spoke in passing to a Polo player while at the airport”... slick enough to make it plausible, so the gullible believe it. So yes you are more dangerous because your anti-Argentine propaganda is cloaked in a veneer of imparciality and “happenstance”.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I have never read a post by ElaineB stating the things claimed by TTT. Yes, she may crictise the Argentine government, and that of other countries, but that is fair game. It is quite normal to criticise any government that fails its people.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    ilsen
    Didn't you leave the country you so dearly hold up against almost any SA country? Didn't you leave byy own choice?
    Didn't you choose Venezuela?

    You lot are fair game to criticise. Normal.

    Failing your own values...

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @16 I am dangerous? Because I speak the truth and people will believe me?

    Sorry for scaring you with tales from my travels. Incidentally, I met a polo player whilst flying business class between Brazil and Argentina.

    Still, why are you soooo obsessed with me? Obsessed enough to devote your free time to making a web page about me? Obsessed enough to save my posts. Wow.

    In general: I always thought TTT was strangely disconnected from life but now he has stalker tendencies I think I should not encourage his behaviour anymore.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Oh come on, Elaine. You are loving the attention.
    Chin over shoulder now, don't forget that silly look...

    :)

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tRoll_with_the_Punches

    @19

    You have a diva complex. I follow Yankeeboy, Anglotino, Hans Niesund, ilsen, Condorito, and many others here equally. My superior cortical abilities process information far faster so TO YOU it appears I am completely focus on you, since most humans could amass so much attention span only to one individual, but I can do it with at least a half-dozen even as I study 4 languages and learn all the other subjects plus have a side-job.

    I have not saved not a single post from anyone here. Don't worry, I don't pay attention to particular posts since they are as usual ill-informed, I just analyze the overall pattern of behavior.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @21

    Me @ 11 “Nope. I haven't said any of those things.”

    TTT @ 12 addressed to me. “You did say all those things. When I have the entire day off next July 9th, I will dedicate the entire day to grab quotes from you, and created a webpage and also a directory, plus put up a post here, so they are kept for posterity all the horribly ethnolitist, culturally supercilious half-truths you have stated.”

    Are you so confused you cannot remember something you posted less than an hour ago?

    @17 Islen, I didn't say any of those things. TTT is so full of hatred he cannot see reality. He has never left his room in his parent's home and his only information is garnered from the internet. So, when I relate a real-life, first-hand experience, he cannot comprehend it. He says he doesn't care what I say but he cares enough to devote his only day off in a month to make a web page devoted to me. Creepy.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @ 22 ElaineB. Yes, I agree he is a creepy little stalker who really needs to experience the real world. Oddly enough, I seemed to have aquired a similar bed-wetting follower in the form of 'stevie'.

    However, I consider him more of a pet to be fed or ignored at my choosing, he hates it, yet craves the attention...

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    The lad is sick Elaine concentrate on your bike! Pointless argueing with him. He is illogical with a twisted mind.

    Back on topic. Argentina and Uraguay best friends! Bahahahahahahahaha..

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    16
    I like that post...insightful....people do that or maybe name drop a restaurant... chatting with an Argentine friend...blah de blah......insert propaganda...plus credibility...........Bob's yer Uncle...

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @23 “Oddly enough, I seemed to have aquired a similar bed-wetting follower in the form of 'stevie'.” Indeed you have.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Must've been in one of your “trips”...

    ;)

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 23 ilsen
    “Stevie, the bed-wetter” I LIKE IT.

    This “whatever he is today – Uruguayo, Swede or argie” person is nothing but a lying hypocrite who is supposed to be an engineer working on an RSV in the North sea. To be fair, he is in Sweden because his mom and dad ran away from Uruguay when the military were about to shoot their arses for being terrorists: murderers, bank robbers and bed-wetters in their own right (my little joke, the last one, they probably shit themselves until the Swedes gave them a way out).

    If you take my advice (C/O ynsere) just ignore the argie moron, he isn’t worth the effort.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Another traveller.
    This one travels away from taxes and into free Health care...

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    “I follow Yankeeboy, Anglotino, Hans Niesund, ilsen, Condorito, and many others here equally.”

    REPRESENTING!

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    ElaineB. Being callled both foxy and dangerous on the same day! Jeje! Does he think you are Mati Hari? I'm a bit jealous hah!

    Chris - I agree. Exiles always love to shout loudly from the safety of the country that was kind enough to take them in.

    Anyhoo... looks like the K-gang is picking more stupid, pointless and unnecessary fights to distract from the problems at home. I thought they were best mates with Uruguay? Or only when they need some support on their claims on Narnia, or the Malvainias, or whatever the damn place is called. I can't find it on any maps. Hang on, I'll just have a look in the back of the wardrobe. .....

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    ilsen

    “I thought they were best mates with Uruguay?”

    If you press your stomach, ankle, knee, elbow and forearm with one of your fingers and it hurts, there's a good possibility your finger is hurt.

    Same with your analysis, there's a good possibility it fails when you attemp to think...

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Guys!

    Go easy on Stevie. It's not easy for him as he can't support either side against the other.

    So he will deflect and equivocate.

    I find it quite skilful; and a touch farcical.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Stevie. I only engage with you at my discretion. Not yours.

    Now off you fuck! Mummy is calling.

    Glad to see Argentina has finally found out about the ICJ.
    I am sure that there was another matter they wished to discuss. .....

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Uruguay supports Arjuntina over the FALKLANDS sovereignty so Arjuntina takes Uruguay to the ICJ, such good neighbours, comedy gold, just could not make it up. LMBO

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Audi Consilium

    It's been a little while since I read throughthis site again, I've been a little busy!! But once again glad I have as I see Elaine is having a 'good day', and no doubt enjoying herslef slapping about the RG trolls and poseters, very well I might add. Go Elaine ! :)

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    these argies ally's never learn, she will use you for her own ends, then promptly stab you in the back.

    As for argies starving, they are--but not for food or water, but for democracy and the truth.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Typical bullish behaviour.

    Slap them down down, can't have them getting ideas above their station!

    Let one of them get away with it and they will all be at it.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Why doesn't Argentina harp on its inalienable right of sovereignty over Uruguay?

    Didn't Argentina inherit Uruguay from Spain?

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @39

    There are many Argentines that believe they do...but 3000 people are easier to bully.

    If there were a successor state for the islands from Spain, it would be Uruguay. Which is funny.

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @39 bushpilot

    No, I think it was a Papal Bull of 2,000 BC!

    ;o)

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    News just in!

    The Whole World supports Argentina over Uruguay (according to La Casa Rosada, Heehee! )

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Quote please Ilsen

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Just joking! (but it would not surprise me if that is a Mercopress headline on Monday!!)

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Stevie,

    As a Uruguayan resident, patriot, expert, and irrepressible voice of righteous indignation for SA
    - why are you now suddenly struck dumb, just when Argentina is bullying your beloved home??

    Could it be you're just a liar and really an Argentine, after all???

    Speak NOW, or forever hold your piece ( no error).

    Jun 14th, 2014 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Lol!
    Stevie is far too much of a cowardly squid to get involved in this one!

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tik Tok

    Tell Argentina to fu*k off

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Stevie is too much of an ARGENTINIAN to get involved in this one - what a fraud!!!

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tRoll_with_the_Punches

    @48

    I thought you antis did not make sweeping generalizations.

    NorthAmians, EUians, and Ozzers posting here:

    GOTCHA.

    I rest my case.

    End of story.

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Calling people 'antis' (whatever that is?) is a sweeping generalisation.

    You didn't Got anyone.

    You just tripped over your own hubris.

    You have no case.

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @50 I guess we can all await his fan site dedicated to me in the future.

    He is so full of self-loathing it is pitiful.

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Where is Argentina's Latino solidarity with their little brother?
    tRoll, if you are so superior to the rest of us, why do you even bother answering/refuting our posts?
    Poor, poor little troll, nobody loves it.

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    I met this guy at the airport.....
    .....we were chatting away and he told me that he was fluent in half a dozen foreign languages and learning several more.
    He then told me how he goes on International websites everyday and debates with foreigners…he was telling me all sorts of interesting stuff about Europe and Asia and the World in general…
    Wanting to contribute something to the conversation, I said, “ I can see you like the International community, are you in Tourism…?
    He scowled at me and said, ”LIKE!!….I hate foreigners and wish they would just leave me alone “

    …….I looked at my watch and said, ”Wow is that the time ?….I must be off now”….and I beat a hasty retreat....

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    51
    Yup, don't forget to remind him. Frequently. Haha! Said he only gets one day off a month, (from what exactly, I'm not sure), and he would do it then. Let's make sure he doesn't waste his precious free time by actually leaving the house!

    @52
    The answer to your question is: Because he is a professed Isolationist.

    No, I don't get it either!

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @54 He will forget about it. He often paints himself into a corner and then pretends it never happened. I guess it is his coping mechanism for failure.

    All laughing at TTT aside, he really is to be pitied. Imagine how awful his life must be for him to be that screwed up, full of hate and self-loathing. Maybe we should change tactics as we are probably the only people he interacts with. He sure craves our attention.

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    55
    Hmmmm. ..
    You may be onto something there. If so, then he needs qualified help. Anglotino speculated that he might be on the Autistic Spectrum, which does make sense when you think about it.

    If everyone was suddenly nice to him and started agreeing everything he said it might tip him completely off balance!

    Tricky one..

    oh, and I have tried reasoning with him. That way madness lies!
    :-)

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Its obvious Toby is sick. Why people try to strike up a dialogue with him beats me, they wont get anywhere? Do not feed the troll, just an occasional insult suffices...

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    56 ilsen

    “If everyone was suddenly nice to him and started agreeing everything he said it might tip him completely off balance!”

    Tried agreeing with everything he said and being nice.

    It made no difference, he just ploughed on with his Isolationist “reasoning” - didn't skip a beat.

    I suppose if we all adopt the tactic, he'll find no reason to rattle on...

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Toby Who /?

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    Ah ha. Funny how the Argentine will take Uraguay to the International Court of the Hague. The Argentine were offered the same facility the the British over the Falkland islands, but Argentinia refused.... The reason, most probably, they do not have a case. Its just drum beating by the Argentinean government who are making a mess of things back home and have to keep the nation behind them by inventing suprious claims to other territories which they have never possessed

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Yes I've tried reasoning with him to. Even tried befriending him.

    If you can believe it (and this might cause some pedantic posters to start googling) I even told him my actual real name on this message board.

    The more he writes the more you can see that he exhibits many if the signs of autism. His savant abilities with languages is also quite common. One of my friends from uni who has become a teacher was able to list EVERY single match score for his footy tram for more than 100 years.

    And the reasons for that score. But his form of Aspergers Syndrome was much much milder than Nostrils.

    So trying to deal with Nostrils differently won't change anything. Autistics are confused by social nuance and relationships. They don't understand and are always perplexed.

    So Nostrils will always be here. This is his outlet where he feels that his “intellect” can flourish and be appreciated.

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    61
    What a load of claptrap....
    There's nothing wrong with him....
    Why don't you witness a never ending bunch of holier than thou... foreign Anglos consistently abuse your country, the people, the way of life...everything.....and all because the Govt has taken a position on sovereignty.....
    How many times has he told you, he doesn't have an issue with the Falklands and yet....there's another poster having their dig....

    There is no disguising the fact that the British Govt are projecting their authority and dominance across the other side of the world where they no longer belong. Colonies by any other name belong in the past....
    A way should be found to resolve this.....UN protection and Sovereignty eliminated....
    If you want to be British...live in Britain and pay your taxes....
    If you want to be an Australian citizen live in... Australia and pay your taxes, contribute to Australia and earn the right to be Australian..

    Jun 15th, 2014 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tik Tok

    #62 Sorry but isn't that the point, if you want to be a Falkland Islander, live in the Falkland Islands and respect the laws of that land? It seems as if the country is content with the way they operate and everything ticks along quite well? Stark contrast to other countries nearby......

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    62 A_Nonymous Fcuk

    “There is no disguising the fact that the British Govt are projecting their authority and dominance across the other side of the world where they no longer belong. Colonies by any other name belong in the past....”

    “no longer belong... ”
    says who ???

    who says it's up to anybody else where a people “belong”??

    certainly not another people who have never contributed to the community or territory, but stand to profit from taking it from others.

    Sounds like naked racist “claptrap” to me, Voice - colonialism by any other name.

    Are you just too lazy or too arrogant to argue sensibly?

    Please tell us again where you stand on self-determination?

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @62, @64

    I'm also wondering how it is that Moldovans like Filmus, Ukrainians like Timerman, Swiss like Kirchner have apparently acquired exclusive rights to the Southern hemisphere?,

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobias (just for this reply)

    Calm down everyone. I may be a bit Aspie and a little sick of mind, but that accounts for only 10% of my behavior here at best.

    The 90% remaining lies IN YOUR HANDS.

    Criticize Argentina fairly, stop the sweeping generalizations, stick to the topics and don't insult our way of life, our food, culture, history, fashion, landscapes, etc, etc, etc, and I will be Tobias.

    Repeat the same routine as always, and I'm TTT.

    Simple as that.

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    @61 The Voice
    “There's nothing wrong with him....”
    Never said there was. Please be more pedantic.

    Abuse regarding different countries happens all the time. Why should Argentina be any different? Try reading any article on Australia in many publications (esp Economist etc) and watch the haters come out, whether Indian, Chinese or American. I don't let them define my contribution though. I'm not that weak-willed.

    “How many times has he told you, he doesn't have an issue with the Falklands and yet....there's another poster having their dig....”
    And I accept his view on the Falkland Islands.

    “...the British Govt are projecting their authority and dominance across the other side of the world where they no longer belong.”
    The people of that part of the world accept and wish for UK sovereignty, therefore the UK belongs there.

    @66 Tobias
    If that is indeed you, we'll know soon enough.

    Nothing will change until you stop being the victim and narcissistically blaming others for your own behaviour.

    To claim that 90% of your behaviour is because of anonymous people on the internet is a woeful reflection on your personality and abilities.

    You choose to reply.
    You choose to go off topic.
    You choose the content of your comments.

    20% of the replies that I go to post are just deleted. I realise that by the end of the comment that there is no use. CabezaDura has no idea about Colombia on another thread but I'm not going to try to convince him because the future will bear out my viewpoint.

    So here is some friendly advice. Write your reply in a word document. Then wait 10 minutes. If you still feel that is the reply that you want to post, then post it.

    And then own the consequences. Don't blame others for your lack of self control.

    First learn to ignore, people like Conq is a good start, replying to him won't change him from being an arsehole. When you can, take him down a peg or two then just move on and forget about it.

    Grudges don't work when everyone is anonymous.

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @62
    If you want to be Argentinian go home and pay your taxes, hypocrite, you know you won't do that much better living off benefits in the UK.

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @66 TTT “I may be a bit Aspie and a little sick of mind,”

    But if we all do exactly what you, TTT, want us to do you will be nice to us? You are more than a little strange.

    I started to watch a programme about the Virgin Killer last night. The opening segment was the killer's video message to the world. It sounded just like one of TTT's diatribes about being superior and having revenge. (He was a little bit 'Aspie' too). I didn't watch the rest of the programme because the similarities between the two were unnerving.

    TTT may be playing a game or really sick in the head. I don't know but I do know there is something seriously wrong with him. I hope the moderators here take note.

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Will the Argentine football team be holding up a banner complaining about increased production at the pulp mill ?
    It seems to be the K government's idea of diplomacy these days .....

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    First I had heard of it from 'the Voice, or should I say the Voice of insanity, that Australia is a colony of the United Kingdom, I wouldn't think that the Average Australian would agree with you at all. However, the Argentine has no room to criticize , they foreceably took the Argentine from its indigenous Indian population. As far as the Falklands is concerned there was no population, and the islands were first discovered by Great Britain in the 1600s . The Argentine probably did not even know that the Falklands existed at the time !

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    71
    I'm guessing that English is not your first language....so I'm going to cut you some slack.....
    I never insinuated that Australia was a colony of the UK, I mentioned Australia because the person I was addressing is an Australian and usually gets the drift of my posts....
    64
    What part of.....
    “A way should be found to resolve this.....UN protection and Sovereignty eliminated....”
    ...didn't you understand....?
    The Islanders have not been British citizens for long....
    They shouldn't be.
    It should be resolved by transferring Sovereignty to the Islands themselves both Britain and Argentina should give up Sovereignty claims. The UN should protect the Islands and the Islanders should lose British citizenship and get on with there lives, not being a burden to anyone....
    As I see it, this would resolve the situation.

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    72 Voice

    I look after my children - they are family, not a “burden”.

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Argentina expanded its territory through conquest, to the size it is today,

    thus she condemns others,

    And the only reason she wants the British out of the south Atlantic, is because SHE wants to expand her territories to include all British possession's in the south Atlantic,
    thus her self becoming a modern day imperialist ,
    and the 21st centuries first modern EMPIRE,

    prove me wrong , just try and prove me wrong argies wannabie empire builders..

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    The beacon of democracy was there for the taking in Iraq. I have served in Arabian countries and the British were there for 120 years. After WW2 the Americans lamb asted Great Britain for being in Arab countries and up the Arabian Gulf. What the UK learned was that you cannot teach democracy to Islam, Allah always gets in the way. The problem being that they are still at the Inquistion stage of religion, so they have about 300 years to go to get that and Allah out of politics. What the British found was that the only way to rule Arabia was through a strong man or a king. That way a lid was kept on the various religious sects. I believe, for that reason, Saddam Hussain probably saved more people from dying, than ever democracy could. However, the British did get out of Arabia and what has happened is that America has been sucked in to just about every country we left....So we did know a thing, or two, and I must say we did it somewhat better and with less loss of life than the Americans have achieved

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Unbelievable isn't it. Arjuntina complaining about pollution , what about cleaning their side of the river namely Riachuelo.

    Jun 16th, 2014 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The_TroLLing_Stone

    @76

    That affects NO ONE that's why.

    Jun 17th, 2014 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    77 Nostrils

    That's the end for you Nostrils.

    And the beginning, too.

    You will be truly isolated until you pay the money back.

    How sad for you.

    Jun 17th, 2014 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @77
    Please explain “ IT EFFECTS NO ONE”, Apparently 250 million was alloted to the cleanup but only 1 million was spent, the rest was misappropriated. Why am I not surpised by this. Tinman has the gall to say Uruguay is polluting the river, you just could not make this up. It would be better to go to the ICJ where you could get a ruling on the soveignty of the FALKLANDS.just Google “ THE MOST POLLUTED RIVERS OF THE WORLD” as proof.

    Jun 17th, 2014 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vernya

    Strange how the Argentine refused to take the Falklands issue to the ICJ, when it was offered to them by Great Britain.............I wonder why ?

    Jun 17th, 2014 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    CFK is not as stupid as some think..

    Jun 17th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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