Spain's new king, Felipe VI, was sworn on Thursday in a relatively modest ceremony which monarchists hope will usher in a new era of popularity for the troubled royal household. Read full article
@1 Who? What? Daddy gave up. NO staying power. Like all latinos. 39 years? Try 62 years...so far. Queen Elizabeth II. And how will Flip do. Off to a good start with one day. Despite all the spaniards screaming for a republic. ”♫ Oh we do like the days of Franco. Espana? Isn't that the place that just got knocked out of the World Cup? The place that's in recession? The place where corruption is endemic? An imperialist, colonialist place that can't read? And has a VERY selective history?
And while Flip's on diversity, perhaps he could note a couple of place that want to be really diverse”. And one that already is. Gibraltar is BRITISH!
That's a laugh with all the bitches you have: TMBOA, Chicken or pasta, Horse face in the laughingly called Finance Ministry and not forgetting (though you lot seem to have) the commie bastard who is close to Kickitoff aka The Ambassador to the United States of America. Is she (with the filthy hair and clothes) still there?
BTW, when are you going to learn English and how to write it?
Use of capitals rings a bell does it? Structure of sentences; that has nothing to do with pushing a concrete filled wheelbarrow.
pelotudo 6
you are not too bright, are you?
yes, kirchner, kicillof, etc are a piece of shit, so?
the old biatch elizabeth, charlie, and those two little w@nkers you, imbecile x 100, worship so much are also a piece of crap.
it is not a competition, you retard.
the problem are the morons like you or the ultra k, licking the boots of that shite.
anyway, i guess granny elizabeth will give her throne to the real owner of england, the qatari sheik.
I just love to watch paulito getting himself so upset over things outside of his knowledge or control. Spitting bile over a foreign Constitutional Monarchy!
At least he can see that Spain is falling apart with parts of it wanting independence-rather amusing as Spain wants to colonise tiny Gibraltar yet massive Catalunia wants out.
Just for the record:
HM Queen Elizabeth II is a great-grandmother, not a 'granny' as pedro the pot-washer stated in his barely legible post @8.
On a side note, it is great to see that some of the wealthiest people in the world (Qataris & others), feel that London is a safe place to invest billions long-term. Equally the Chinese have just rocked up with a small £14billion advance payment on even greater future investment in the UK.
Bet the new King of Spain would love to see the same for his beleagured land. No wonder he is begging the Catalonians not to disembark from the leaking hulk. I hope Spain can pull its finger out soon.
To throw some light on Paulcedron. Unless my memory is faulty, he did say he had Irish ancestry from way back. There was/is a history of anti English hatred - in some ways justified- in these original immigrants that has been passed down the generations until it becomes credo with their great grand children.
It could be seen in the USA in the Boston area where the IRA were being supported in their indiscriminate bombing campaign.
The US government refused to extradite bombers for trial because of the pro Irish lobby.
There was a saying that Ireland had a past but no future.
Paul is just caught up in this time warp and he has to vent his bile because he is what he is.
Imbeciles various, especially Christina, Ms Ilsen, Toy.
You, nabos, confuse getting an investment with selling the last jewels england still has.
Guess imbeciles like you lot will think the same when the Sheik will be buying the Buckingham Palace.
That is not investment, you fools.
Grandpa Clyde.
It could be seen in the USA in the Boston area where the IRA were being supported in their indiscriminate bombing campaign.
They did not support any bombing campaign.
They support the return of North Ireland to its real owner.
So North Ireland belongs to the Republic of Ireland, in the same way that Malvinas belongs to Argentina and Gibraltar belongs to Spain.
Three problems with only one common denominator: England
It could be seen in the USA in the Boston area where the IRA were being supported in their indiscriminate bombing campaign.
The US government refused to extradite bombers for trial because of the pro Irish lobby.
I remember those days, Clyde.
A family vacation to Cape Cod Mass. with N.I. friends, during the Troubles .
Restaurants had a donation jar by the till, for our Irish brothers.
Overt soliciting for terrorists - at that time the bombings were at their peak.
I think our group had stronger Irish accents than anybody else I encountered down there.
Just like the Paul's of the world, repeating a mantra they don't understand, from a different world and a different time.
There was a saying that Ireland had a past but no future.
Very funny, - sadly, very appropo.
The rest of the world moves on from these conflicts and learn to get by.
US is friends with UK,
Scottish are friends with the English (Think is NOT Scottish),
France and UK friends,
Germany friends with UK,
India friends with UK,
being simplistic here, but the past is the past and we can move forward with a positive will to get along.
If Paul wishes to perpetuate his prejudices it's because he wishes to do so, it's not relevant to the situation today.
Paul is accountable for his hate, and spiteful posts, whether he truly believes them or not.
It reflects not only on his education and upbringing, but his character and intelligence.
He can rightly expect criticism and disdain.
For
Paul is just caught up in this time warp and he has to vent his bile because he is what he is.
toy
”US is friends with UK,
Scottish are friends with the English (Think is NOT Scottish),
France and UK friends,
Germany friends with UK,
India friends with UK,”
But the overt support for our Irish brothers was tolerated by; it seemed to me at the time, the vast majority of Americans.
9/11 soon changed their mind with the terrible carnage brought about by Arabs, the same scum who helped the IRA with the provision of explosives and automatic weapons and ammunition.
Of course the number killed in the twin towers disaster, great as it was, is LESS than those killed by the IRA and funded in the large part by Americans. Not so funny now is it? I lost friends to these stupid fuck-pigs aka the Provisional IRA and could never understand the US kowtowing to the Irish lobby.
But let it not spoil our friendship, even if Obuma hates us, until he needs our military to go fight the wars with him.
@17
Laughing @ ' Ms Ilsen'
Bahahaha!
No one here knows if I am female or male. Gay/straight, black/white/asian or latino/a.
I have always been proud to say I am British born and have family/business/homes/ friends and contacts in UK and Venezuela. As well as having travelled widely in Latin America and the rest of the world.
Also that I have graduated from English and Latin American Universities.
I have always been open about that. Public knowledge.
Stevie occasionally accuses me of deserting one country or the other. Whilst I merely move between the two, as suits me. I unable to ' desert' either. It would be easier to shed my own skin.
Obviously these international concepts are beyond the grasp of pablo the potwasher.
Tough for Pablo-niño to understand, by today's inhabitants are far more relevant than those of 400, 200, or 100 years ago, or a pimply boy in a basement on South America whose ancestors forsook their home generations ago, looking for eas
Self determination by implanted populations is not valid.
That may indeed be true.
Thankfully according to the UN, the population of the Falkland Islands is not implanted and hence they are accorded full rights to self determination as guaranteed by the UN Charter.
I've never met anyone yet who is able to show proof otherwise.
Yes, a miscarriage of justice, 40 years ago.
Carry your martyr to your grave if it makes your feel better or it will improve the lives around you.
I think this was dealt with.
How many innocents were kneecapped, maimed, killed, in the name of Catholicism and Irish Freedom?
Should we continue to dwell in that morass.
How do you decide on whose behalf you will be righteously indignant?
What is Ireland to you, except an excuse to be holier than thou?
You were born long after the events happened. Your parents/parent, or their parents, abandoned that society for something better, elsewhere ( or so they thought), no longer contributors, not participants, except perhaps for harbouring old prejudices they passed onto you.
Not to mention, as you remind us, it was a different world 14,000 km's away.
Meanwhile, politics and history have moved on in Ireland.
The Celtic Tiger has changed things a bit - not the same place you romanticise about.
Here's one for you, a bit closer to home, that relates directly to you:
Injustice, racial discrimination, inhuman cruelty, theft, and degradation towards innocent women and children - in your backyard, by your friends and neighbours.
Stoopid pedro the potwasher. Shouting about Ireland/UK. Things he so obviously knows nothing about. His education couldn't cover such complex issues.
Why is he so off topic? Because he doesn't even understand the actual news stories discussed on these threads, let alone European or World situations.
So out of his depth!
Laughable!
One would hope the Monarchy will lend stability to Spain, and a continuity beyond a series of governments, a National Identity and co-operation.
Our Constitutional Monarchy has worked well, a crisis recently averted in government by the Crown stepping in.
China had initiated a plan in 1908 to move the Emperor into the role of a Monarch along the lines of the British Constitutional Monarchy model.
Hard to believe, nowadays.
The USA has done well with its Republican model, though some on here would argue differently.
They seem to have done better than the fascist states - Germany Italy Spain Argentina. Argentina being the only one still following that path.
boludos toy and mrs ilsen.
first the ones who started with ireland were you, boludos.
second, there are shitty politicians everywhere, here, in the uk, etc.
the problem, again, are the imbeciles like you who defend them.
here most of the population, me included, recognize all the calamities the country has committed against indigenous people, the crimes of the dictatorship, and all the mess the current govt is doing.
you, pelotudos x 1000, justify all the crimes the uk has done through ages.
it is unaccountable that a crap like blair was not judged and jailed yet.
only in the uk.
@30
Oh dear, you are upset aren't you poppet?
Ok, deep breath. Time to look at some facts.
My first and only mention of Ireland on this thread was @27 and was a comment on your comments about Ireland.
I agree with you that there are shitty politicians in many countries, please show me where on this thread I have defended any.
Equally provide proof that I have ever supported or defended Tony Blair in Any way or form, at Any time. Anywhere.
The subject is the Monarchy of Spain, King Felipe.
You took the opportunity for an all-out offensive on the British Royal Family.
Surely, even a dumkopf like you knows that will provoke a reaction.
An unfathomable diatribe from a young 'tween living in South America, certainly makes is wonder why.
Clyde made a very fair and impartial observation that you have commented on having an Irish connection, and have posted Anti- British comments on the past.
It was generously suggested that you were caught up in a time warp regarding Ireland.
Then you started with the name calling, the anti- Brit Gibraltar, Ireland, Malvinas, 'England is Evil', rant - yawn.
Then, the Conlon thing of 40 years ago, in the midst of Irish Terrorist bombing campaigns which you took the time to deny.
We get it - you don't like the English, and you feel any action against them is justified.
This is just your personal crusade niño,
the rest of the world has moved on,
the IRA and Irish politicians have backed down publicly, and no longer feel a United Ireland is worth spilling blood over.
The people of the South are free to live as they wish, Catholic, full partners in the EU.
The people of the North are free to live as wish too, Catholic or Protestant, part of the UK, part of the EU.
Both sides travel freely back and forth, associate as they wish.
In other words niño,
YOU ARE OFF-TOPIC.
Your prejudices are your own,
THEY ARE NOT RELEVANT,
I think the new king has excellent taste in motor cars as I mentioned @12.
My opinion on this has not been swayed by potwasher pablo's well-reasoned and carefully constructed arguments. Or even by his devotion to his pet unicorn. Of which both exist, of course.
I guess that makes me an unreasonable 'pelotu' or whatever silly word he wishes to use.
*33 ...and what if you are a potwasher?! Have you got something against potwashers?? Do you live in some sort of ivory tower that you look down on people who wash pots to make a living?? CLIMB DOWN FROM YOUR HORSE..WOMAN!!!
#17
Grandpa Clyde.
Thank you for the title. I see that you acknowledge the fact age does confer some wisdom from experience that you have yet to gain.
I remember being addressed as Mzee by a young Zulu when I was in KwaZulu Natal. Later on I found out that it meant wise respected one
A title granted to men with a grey beard and an obvious experience of life that had kept them alive. Their young are taught to respect old-age as something of value to the community. The use of the pejorative Grandpa
would have evoked a whack on the back with a knobkerry,,,,,,,,there is a lot to admire in the Zulu nation
@35 Clyde15,
Similar to the rural areas of lndonesia & the Philippines.
A man or woman with white or silver hair of any nationality is treated with respect.
toy
no.
you always wrong.
to be thorough is not the contrary of being brief or succinct.
on the other hand you are giving yourself too much credit.
you are not thorough nor to the point, nor brief, nor succinct.
you are simply boring.
@47 Paul
For the way you I am afraid you are mistaken and jumping to conclusions too quickly. I paid compliments to Troy on this occasion because it is on this thread the best commentator with the best oratory and arguments. It doesn’t mean I regularly agree with Troy or the “ British Colonialists” . In fact ,if you look some of the other post , you would see my attitude towards to Troy or the Brits has been much different. Nevertheless, I do have a lot of respect for a country which gave me the opportunity to learn about its culture and its traditions.
Same apply to my attitude towards to South Americans. I have seen what uncontrolled South American immigration have done to my country , Spain, and to be honest , I don’t like it. I have seen good honest people coming to Spain and doing their best to have an honest life but also I have seen hordes of council rats screwing the system and bringing with them the worst of the worst . Those are the “sudacas” which I really despise and I refer to.
Now coming back to original topic, I can see the benefits of having a monarchy mainly for the sense of security, tradition and specially stability which provides to a society. In times of troubles and despair people look for role figures to provide guidance and comfort. I really believe this is the main role of the Royal Families, to be a mirror for the society providing the bare values which identify a country. The main problem is when the society moves faster than the capacity for the monarchs to adopt to the new situations .
#46
Answer me this. How far back in history do you wish to go to establish a country's sovereignty. Is it to the point where it suits your remit ?
Is it also to do with geographical location or the people who live and work the land ?
This will lead to a dichotomy with totally divergent solutions.
I could fill this thread with reams of Irish history and still be able to prove nothing and all it would do is provoke is a visceral reaction from you.
You have been inculcated with a set of beliefs which you cannot change as it would mean you would have to question what is part of your core as a cognitive being.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesViva el Rey!!! Viva España !!!!
Jun 20th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least they had the right make of car: no SEAT's for them.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0An early Official/State Visit to Gibraltar?
Jun 20th, 2014 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Who? What? Daddy gave up. NO staying power. Like all latinos. 39 years? Try 62 years...so far. Queen Elizabeth II. And how will Flip do. Off to a good start with one day. Despite all the spaniards screaming for a republic. ”♫ Oh we do like the days of Franco. Espana? Isn't that the place that just got knocked out of the World Cup? The place that's in recession? The place where corruption is endemic? An imperialist, colonialist place that can't read? And has a VERY selective history?
Jun 20th, 2014 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And while Flip's on diversity, perhaps he could note a couple of place that want to be really diverse”. And one that already is. Gibraltar is BRITISH!
guess the old b*tch of england should learn about this.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the old mummy is some kind of zombie, a living dead.
crawl back to your tomb, elizabeth
@ 5 cock breath
Jun 20th, 2014 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's a laugh with all the bitches you have: TMBOA, Chicken or pasta, Horse face in the laughingly called Finance Ministry and not forgetting (though you lot seem to have) the commie bastard who is close to Kickitoff aka The Ambassador to the United States of America. Is she (with the filthy hair and clothes) still there?
BTW, when are you going to learn English and how to write it?
Use of capitals rings a bell does it? Structure of sentences; that has nothing to do with pushing a concrete filled wheelbarrow.
Staking out on a bull ant hill, is too good for nasty paulcedron.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a resentful piece of garbage he is.
pelotudo 6
Jun 20th, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are not too bright, are you?
yes, kirchner, kicillof, etc are a piece of shit, so?
the old biatch elizabeth, charlie, and those two little w@nkers you, imbecile x 100, worship so much are also a piece of crap.
it is not a competition, you retard.
the problem are the morons like you or the ultra k, licking the boots of that shite.
anyway, i guess granny elizabeth will give her throne to the real owner of england, the qatari sheik.
it seems little england is already a qatari colony.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113159/Qatar-bought-Britain-They-Shard-They-Olympic-Village-And-dont-care-Lamborghinis-clamped-shop-Harrods.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113159/Qatar-bought-Britain-They-Shard-They-Olympic-Village-And-dont-care-Lamborghinis-clamped-shop-Harrods.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113159/Qatar-bought-Britain-They-Shard-They-Olympic-Village-And-dont-care-Lamborghinis-clamped-shop-Harrods.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2113159/Qatar-bought-Britain-They-Shard-They-Olympic-Village-And-dont-care-Lamborghinis-clamped-shop-Harrods.html
I love when people hate our royal family.
Jun 20th, 2014 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because there's nothing they can do about it.
Just watch in helplessness as Elizabeth continues to hold the throne of the senior and most famous monarchy in the world.
I just love to watch paulito getting himself so upset over things outside of his knowledge or control. Spitting bile over a foreign Constitutional Monarchy!
Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fool.
Haha!
Serious inferiority complex going on there.
At least he can see that Spain is falling apart with parts of it wanting independence-rather amusing as Spain wants to colonise tiny Gibraltar yet massive Catalunia wants out.
Jun 21st, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still, nice choice of motor Phil!
Jun 21st, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 8 cock breath :o)
Jun 21st, 2014 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well that got the desired result!
Now I KNOW why you have cock breath. Ha, ha, ha.
Just for the record:
Jun 21st, 2014 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HM Queen Elizabeth II is a great-grandmother, not a 'granny' as pedro the pot-washer stated in his barely legible post @8.
On a side note, it is great to see that some of the wealthiest people in the world (Qataris & others), feel that London is a safe place to invest billions long-term. Equally the Chinese have just rocked up with a small £14billion advance payment on even greater future investment in the UK.
Bet the new King of Spain would love to see the same for his beleagured land. No wonder he is begging the Catalonians not to disembark from the leaking hulk. I hope Spain can pull its finger out soon.
Pablo-niño
Jun 21st, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once again, you show your foot-stomping, toy-throwing jealousy and petulance.
Remind me of the other Anti-Monarchists of Argentina, MontecinoNiño, Keith Yorke, Stevie, Nostrils, et al.
Are you against the Spanish monarch as well, or just the British Royal Family?
Hmmm, haven't heard any criticism of Juan Carlos or Felipe.
Why not?
Hypocrit.
To throw some light on Paulcedron. Unless my memory is faulty, he did say he had Irish ancestry from way back. There was/is a history of anti English hatred - in some ways justified- in these original immigrants that has been passed down the generations until it becomes credo with their great grand children.
Jun 21st, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It could be seen in the USA in the Boston area where the IRA were being supported in their indiscriminate bombing campaign.
The US government refused to extradite bombers for trial because of the pro Irish lobby.
There was a saying that Ireland had a past but no future.
Paul is just caught up in this time warp and he has to vent his bile because he is what he is.
Imbeciles various, especially Christina, Ms Ilsen, Toy.
Jun 21st, 2014 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You, nabos, confuse getting an investment with selling the last jewels england still has.
Guess imbeciles like you lot will think the same when the Sheik will be buying the Buckingham Palace.
That is not investment, you fools.
Grandpa Clyde.
It could be seen in the USA in the Boston area where the IRA were being supported in their indiscriminate bombing campaign.
They did not support any bombing campaign.
They support the return of North Ireland to its real owner.
So North Ireland belongs to the Republic of Ireland, in the same way that Malvinas belongs to Argentina and Gibraltar belongs to Spain.
Three problems with only one common denominator: England
16 Clyde
Jun 21st, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It could be seen in the USA in the Boston area where the IRA were being supported in their indiscriminate bombing campaign.
The US government refused to extradite bombers for trial because of the pro Irish lobby.
I remember those days, Clyde.
A family vacation to Cape Cod Mass. with N.I. friends, during the Troubles .
Restaurants had a donation jar by the till, for our Irish brothers.
Overt soliciting for terrorists - at that time the bombings were at their peak.
I think our group had stronger Irish accents than anybody else I encountered down there.
Just like the Paul's of the world, repeating a mantra they don't understand, from a different world and a different time.
There was a saying that Ireland had a past but no future.
Very funny, - sadly, very appropo.
The rest of the world moves on from these conflicts and learn to get by.
US is friends with UK,
Scottish are friends with the English (Think is NOT Scottish),
France and UK friends,
Germany friends with UK,
India friends with UK,
being simplistic here, but the past is the past and we can move forward with a positive will to get along.
If Paul wishes to perpetuate his prejudices it's because he wishes to do so, it's not relevant to the situation today.
Paul is accountable for his hate, and spiteful posts, whether he truly believes them or not.
It reflects not only on his education and upbringing, but his character and intelligence.
He can rightly expect criticism and disdain.
For
Paul is just caught up in this time warp and he has to vent his bile because he is what he is.
toy
Jun 21st, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”US is friends with UK,
Scottish are friends with the English (Think is NOT Scottish),
France and UK friends,
Germany friends with UK,
India friends with UK,”
lol
LOL
HAHAHA
yes, right...
17 niño pucheros
Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Northern Ireland is part of the UK, in the same way that The Falklands are British, and Gilbraltar is a self governing British Overseas Territory.
Three problems with only one common denominator: Se
But the overt support for our Irish brothers was tolerated by; it seemed to me at the time, the vast majority of Americans.
Jun 21st, 2014 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 09/11 soon changed their mind with the terrible carnage brought about by Arabs, the same scum who helped the IRA with the provision of explosives and automatic weapons and ammunition.
Of course the number killed in the twin towers disaster, great as it was, is LESS than those killed by the IRA and funded in the large part by Americans. Not so funny now is it? I lost friends to these stupid fuck-pigs aka the Provisional IRA and could never understand the US kowtowing to the Irish lobby.
But let it not spoil our friendship, even if Obuma hates us, until he needs our military to go fight the wars with him.
@17
Jun 21st, 2014 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Laughing @ ' Ms Ilsen'
Bahahaha!
No one here knows if I am female or male. Gay/straight, black/white/asian or latino/a.
I have always been proud to say I am British born and have family/business/homes/ friends and contacts in UK and Venezuela. As well as having travelled widely in Latin America and the rest of the world.
Also that I have graduated from English and Latin American Universities.
I have always been open about that. Public knowledge.
Stevie occasionally accuses me of deserting one country or the other. Whilst I merely move between the two, as suits me. I unable to ' desert' either. It would be easier to shed my own skin.
Obviously these international concepts are beyond the grasp of pablo the potwasher.
with love from
'Ms' ilsen.
Mhawwha hahaha!
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Jun 22nd, 2014 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0sorry... Common denominator:
Self Determination by the inhabitants.
Tough for Pablo-niño to understand, by today's inhabitants are far more relevant than those of 400, 200, or 100 years ago, or a pimply boy in a basement on South America whose ancestors forsook their home generations ago, looking for eas
toy
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Self determination by implanted populations is not valid.
Go back to school.
Burro
Talking about Ireland
Remembering today the injustice served upon the Guildford Four.
RIP Gerry Conlon who died today
British justice at its best, eh?
Self determination by implanted populations is not valid.
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0That may indeed be true.
Thankfully according to the UN, the population of the Falkland Islands is not implanted and hence they are accorded full rights to self determination as guaranteed by the UN Charter.
I've never met anyone yet who is able to show proof otherwise.
24 niño patty
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, a miscarriage of justice, 40 years ago.
Carry your martyr to your grave if it makes your feel better or it will improve the lives around you.
I think this was dealt with.
How many innocents were kneecapped, maimed, killed, in the name of Catholicism and Irish Freedom?
Should we continue to dwell in that morass.
How do you decide on whose behalf you will be righteously indignant?
What is Ireland to you, except an excuse to be holier than thou?
You were born long after the events happened. Your parents/parent, or their parents, abandoned that society for something better, elsewhere ( or so they thought), no longer contributors, not participants, except perhaps for harbouring old prejudices they passed onto you.
Not to mention, as you remind us, it was a different world 14,000 km's away.
Meanwhile, politics and history have moved on in Ireland.
The Celtic Tiger has changed things a bit - not the same place you romanticise about.
Here's one for you, a bit closer to home, that relates directly to you:
Injustice, racial discrimination, inhuman cruelty, theft, and degradation towards innocent women and children - in your backyard, by your friends and neighbours.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/indigenous-peoples-argentina-we-are-strangers-our-own-country-2013-08-09
You SHOULD be feeling very ashamed, but that couldn't be you, right? You're good peaceful, tolerant people right??
Never mind, I'm wasting my breath on a dumkopf ...
Stoopid pedro the potwasher. Shouting about Ireland/UK. Things he so obviously knows nothing about. His education couldn't cover such complex issues.
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why is he so off topic? Because he doesn't even understand the actual news stories discussed on these threads, let alone European or World situations.
So out of his depth!
Laughable!
Long live the King !!
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long may Felipe reign.
One would hope the Monarchy will lend stability to Spain, and a continuity beyond a series of governments, a National Identity and co-operation.
Our Constitutional Monarchy has worked well, a crisis recently averted in government by the Crown stepping in.
China had initiated a plan in 1908 to move the Emperor into the role of a Monarch along the lines of the British Constitutional Monarchy model.
Hard to believe, nowadays.
The USA has done well with its Republican model, though some on here would argue differently.
They seem to have done better than the fascist states - Germany Italy Spain Argentina. Argentina being the only one still following that path.
Do they never learn?
No.
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0boludos toy and mrs ilsen.
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0first the ones who started with ireland were you, boludos.
second, there are shitty politicians everywhere, here, in the uk, etc.
the problem, again, are the imbeciles like you who defend them.
here most of the population, me included, recognize all the calamities the country has committed against indigenous people, the crimes of the dictatorship, and all the mess the current govt is doing.
you, pelotudos x 1000, justify all the crimes the uk has done through ages.
it is unaccountable that a crap like blair was not judged and jailed yet.
only in the uk.
@30
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear, you are upset aren't you poppet?
Ok, deep breath. Time to look at some facts.
My first and only mention of Ireland on this thread was @27 and was a comment on your comments about Ireland.
I agree with you that there are shitty politicians in many countries, please show me where on this thread I have defended any.
Equally provide proof that I have ever supported or defended Tony Blair in Any way or form, at Any time. Anywhere.
Go on. I'm waiting.
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30 niño
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh, come off it, you little crybaby.
The subject is the Monarchy of Spain, King Felipe.
You took the opportunity for an all-out offensive on the British Royal Family.
Surely, even a dumkopf like you knows that will provoke a reaction.
An unfathomable diatribe from a young 'tween living in South America, certainly makes is wonder why.
Clyde made a very fair and impartial observation that you have commented on having an Irish connection, and have posted Anti- British comments on the past.
It was generously suggested that you were caught up in a time warp regarding Ireland.
Then you started with the name calling, the anti- Brit Gibraltar, Ireland, Malvinas, 'England is Evil', rant - yawn.
Then, the Conlon thing of 40 years ago, in the midst of Irish Terrorist bombing campaigns which you took the time to deny.
We get it - you don't like the English, and you feel any action against them is justified.
This is just your personal crusade niño,
the rest of the world has moved on,
the IRA and Irish politicians have backed down publicly, and no longer feel a United Ireland is worth spilling blood over.
The people of the South are free to live as they wish, Catholic, full partners in the EU.
The people of the North are free to live as wish too, Catholic or Protestant, part of the UK, part of the EU.
Both sides travel freely back and forth, associate as they wish.
In other words niño,
YOU ARE OFF-TOPIC.
Your prejudices are your own,
THEY ARE NOT RELEVANT,
They have no place here.
How do you feel about Felipe VI of Spain ?
I think the new king has excellent taste in motor cars as I mentioned @12.
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My opinion on this has not been swayed by potwasher pablo's well-reasoned and carefully constructed arguments. Or even by his devotion to his pet unicorn. Of which both exist, of course.
I guess that makes me an unreasonable 'pelotu' or whatever silly word he wishes to use.
haha!
*33 ...and what if you are a potwasher?! Have you got something against potwashers?? Do you live in some sort of ivory tower that you look down on people who wash pots to make a living?? CLIMB DOWN FROM YOUR HORSE..WOMAN!!!
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#17
Jun 22nd, 2014 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Grandpa Clyde.
Thank you for the title. I see that you acknowledge the fact age does confer some wisdom from experience that you have yet to gain.
I remember being addressed as Mzee by a young Zulu when I was in KwaZulu Natal. Later on I found out that it meant wise respected one
A title granted to men with a grey beard and an obvious experience of life that had kept them alive. Their young are taught to respect old-age as something of value to the community. The use of the pejorative Grandpa
would have evoked a whack on the back with a knobkerry,,,,,,,,there is a lot to admire in the Zulu nation
32
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0didn't they teach you to be more succinct?
33
what does pelotu mean?
it is pelotudo
pelotuda in your case
35
and who told you grandpa is used in a pejorative way?
36 pouting niño
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0didn't they teach you to be more succinct?
Is that all you've got?
I think I covered everything. You have no reply and you have nothing relevant to say.
You've embarrassed yourself again.
Do you have anything to say about Felipe VI ?
I was taught to be thorough.
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0If that is succinct then that's fine.
I'd much prefer to be thorough. Especially considering what succinct does to paulcedron's ability to argue.
Thorough and to the point, is better than succinct - BRIEF and to the point.
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pablo-niño finds it too difficult to understand all issues or argue all issues. He's too intellectually lazy.
Simplistic ideology and dogma is all he can manage.
@ 39 Troy Tempest .
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sir, Me quito el sombrero en su honor. Superb comments and even better oratory.
@35 Clyde15,
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Similar to the rural areas of lndonesia & the Philippines.
A man or woman with white or silver hair of any nationality is treated with respect.
toy
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no.
you always wrong.
to be thorough is not the contrary of being brief or succinct.
on the other hand you are giving yourself too much credit.
you are not thorough nor to the point, nor brief, nor succinct.
you are simply boring.
40 Spanish Mole
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you, Sir.
42 crying niño
didn't say that. Read carefully.
guess spanish mole is another troll and counting.
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he must be as spanish as toy is canadian
@44 Paulcedron.
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pure Spanish born and breed from one of the oldest kingdoms in my lovely Iberian Peninsula . Leon . Definetely no a Sudaca !! Que Asco!
45
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0weird
so you are spanish and you agree with these colonialists who think gibraltar, malvinas and north ireland are british.
que lamebotas que sos.
the ice on the cake is: Definetely no a Sudaca !! Que Asco!
not a surprise you agree with them.
44 troll niño
Jun 23rd, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0guess spanish mole is another troll and counting.
he must be as spanish as toy is canadian
You never listen or read properly.
You are the only one here, OFF-TOPIC.
@47 Paul
Jun 24th, 2014 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the way you I am afraid you are mistaken and jumping to conclusions too quickly. I paid compliments to Troy on this occasion because it is on this thread the best commentator with the best oratory and arguments. It doesn’t mean I regularly agree with Troy or the “ British Colonialists” . In fact ,if you look some of the other post , you would see my attitude towards to Troy or the Brits has been much different. Nevertheless, I do have a lot of respect for a country which gave me the opportunity to learn about its culture and its traditions.
Same apply to my attitude towards to South Americans. I have seen what uncontrolled South American immigration have done to my country , Spain, and to be honest , I don’t like it. I have seen good honest people coming to Spain and doing their best to have an honest life but also I have seen hordes of council rats screwing the system and bringing with them the worst of the worst . Those are the “sudacas” which I really despise and I refer to.
Now coming back to original topic, I can see the benefits of having a monarchy mainly for the sense of security, tradition and specially stability which provides to a society. In times of troubles and despair people look for role figures to provide guidance and comfort. I really believe this is the main role of the Royal Families, to be a mirror for the society providing the bare values which identify a country. The main problem is when the society moves faster than the capacity for the monarchs to adopt to the new situations .
I believe in evolution no revolution
#46
Jun 24th, 2014 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Answer me this. How far back in history do you wish to go to establish a country's sovereignty. Is it to the point where it suits your remit ?
Is it also to do with geographical location or the people who live and work the land ?
This will lead to a dichotomy with totally divergent solutions.
I could fill this thread with reams of Irish history and still be able to prove nothing and all it would do is provoke is a visceral reaction from you.
You have been inculcated with a set of beliefs which you cannot change as it would mean you would have to question what is part of your core as a cognitive being.
17 Pablo niño Cedrone
Jun 27th, 2014 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0They did not support any bombing campaign.
They support the return of North Ireland to its real owner.
...Pablo,you naive dumkopf,
what do you think they were collecting money for... speech-writers???
At least Nostrils has Aspergers as an excuse. You... ??
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