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Striker Suarez admitted having dreamt he would score two goals

Friday, June 20th 2014 - 07:15 UTC
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Striker Luis Suarez admitted he had dreamt he was going to score two goals, the two that helped Uruguay defeat England 2-1 in the 2014 World Cup and leaves the team led by Gerard in a most uncomfortable position. Read full article

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  • Leiard

    Well done Uruguay and Suarez.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Well done Uruguay. People should start listening to Greg Dyke!

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    In the words of Hugh Laurie: Well at least the sun came up. Last night I thought Suarez might make a run between Venus and Mercury and stick it away.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Watching what happens next is going to be far more exciting than the match.

    Will they or won't make it through to the next round? Much more exciting to watch.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Forget this World Cup nonsense, Rugby Union is the real game.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    Such an amazing player. I would say good luck Uruguay but I won't until England is definatly out.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    URUGUAY 2

    ENGLAND 1

    :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) :o) (you get the idea)

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Suarez, van Persie, Robben, Balotelli, Messi.
    To win the World Cup you need red-hot natural strikers. More may show themselves, and even more will fail to perform.
    There will be some sort of justice if the teams with the best strikers make it through to the last four - but the same thing can be said of goalkeepers, wing-backs, or holding mid-field players ...

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El Diego

    A guy walks into a brothel and tells the hostess I want to be humiliated and she tells hin here you go put on this England football shirt !! Hahahaha

    Isn't the team so emblematic of the country - look at the team and you see the country itself manifested there in the 3 donkeys -

    They Think they are a great team but it's only in their egos as reality shows they are consistent losers ,

    Plodders, carthorses and Neanderthals way behind the times win their strategies and tactics only to be humiliated time after time - that's quite a good description of the country itself

    Then there is all the wild speculation about how they will wine the cup , world class players, etc - but everytime they get it totally wrong - just like the gringo posters on this site - haven't a clue

    Does anybody know the difference between a teabag and the England football team? A teabag stays in the cup longer - hahaha LMFHO

    A country of losers and has beens

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @9 I am really pleased you have something to be happy about even if it is only a game of footie.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #9
    Yes, I would have to agree that Uruguay, Brasil, Argentina and others are better at football. However, football supporters are not known for their modesty nor objective judgement. I really have no interest in the game played by grossly overpaid people with over inflated egos.
    However, only one team is going to win. If Argentina gets beaten then will we expect the same vituperation from you ?
    My national team did not even make it to the Cup. It bothers me not.

    If it gives you pleasure that England was beaten 2-1 on the day---hardly a humiliation --then enjoy it. It was done by proxy, Argentina did not even get a chance to play England. Maybe Argentina would have lost-as you seem to be on a losing streak in all your endeavours.
    There is nothing else in your country to crow about. Failed political and economic system. Absolutely no chance of getting your hands on the Falklands.

    Does anybody know the difference between a pile of dog shit and Argentina ? There is none .......... hahaha LMFHO

    A country of losers and has never have beens. Enjoy your rapid race to the bottom....you should soon be passing Burkino faso on the way down.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    England is actually a better team and played a better more modern and sophisticated footie than Uruguay the difference is that Uruguayan players had 37ºC in their blood.

    Instead of instantly praising Uruguay and licking Suarez boots you should ask for heads in your own team.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    #9 and #12

    Unfortunately we have one of the most followed football leagues in the world, the Premier League. Everywhere you go in the world you see the shirts, the press cuttings and people will keenly tell you how they are supporters of one of our Premier League teams. This earns a lot of money for England and foriegn billionaires are falling over each other to buy and run a team. The teams, and those of Englands championship and lesser leagues contain players from all over the world. To some extent this denys English youngsters the chance to practice and develop their skills and this reflects in our national team. Tbe Chairman of the English football association wants to correct this by following the rules practiced in Germany where 50% of players must be from the home country.
    As for #9s stupid comnents, tbere is no such international interest or success in your countrys league. We arent in default to our creditors with a sinking currency, widespread REAL poverty, corrupt police, politicians, terrible crime, rubbish on the streets, bars on every window, propaganda posters everywhere, bankrupt armed forces and all the other crap you have to endure as a poverty stricken international pariah. I suggest you get some education because you sound like a knuckle dragging moron.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Scotland is happy
    “a splendid outcome,luis putting the bite on England has them dancing in the streets of Scotland”

    :-))))

    Uruguay is happy..GOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrMKodxhDI

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Hmm… something to celebrate other than corned beef, very droll Marcos. By the way theres an A in goal. GOOLIES are tbe things between you legs, you know, where YOUR brains are located. Dickhead!

    Argieland will get knocked out, it wont be their fault of course and we will all be laughing. Come back soon….

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Yes, Argentina can embarrass itself playing bad against lesser teams but ends p winning the matches or not losing them. That is not England. And it will usually be up for the challenge when a worthy rival comes along.
    However even in this very well situated start off in the WC, I don't remember ever Argentina so unbalanced with good strikers at the top and such a poor defence and midfield.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FI_Frost

    @9 & 14

    Once again we have to suffer the stigma of under achievement on the football pitch - we'll get over it.....You alas, have to suffer the lifelong stigma of an anglophobic inferiority complex. Better luck in the next life.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @14,
    Scotland is happy?

    How do you know?

    So if I go and look at Scotland on google earth right now, Scotland will have a big smile on its face?

    Is that what you mean?

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    15 CaptainSilver
    I don't expect an Ingles boludo to know that we call it G O L down here.

    18 Escoses Doido

    Did anyone see the Scottish Escoses Doido in the Uruguay crowd last tonight?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10913694/Scotland-fan-spotted-supporting-Uruguay-at-Englands-2-1-defeat.html

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Costa Rica 1 - 0 Italia (half time)

    Can they hold on against the odds and a clearly bought ref?

    Vamos Ticos!

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Dear English, I hope you enjoyed your short visit to beautiful South America.

    Keep Calm
    Bye Bye England :-))))

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    HahAha some skinny central americas have just executed England and surely Uruguay too... See englishmen, no resourses, now known players but that Costa Rica is what is called balls and playing with heart ambition and deliverence. This group will end as it should be Costa Rica first Italy second England & Uruguay home. I hope the best for Costa Rica from now.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #21
    Well, I live in Scotland and have seen and heard nobody celebrating England's defeat. It is a non-news item. Nobody is dancing in the streets,
    Where is your video showing this ? All I heard in your video was an over excited commentator screeching in Spanish.

    Yes, we have quite a few nut case exhibitionists as featured in your you tube video.

    Keep it up pelotudo.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Bye bye England.

    Don't tell me your leaving here at long last???????

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    #23 Dear pelotudo, looks like you live under a rock :-)))

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #25
    No, on top of one. Enjoy your triumph, by proxy. Argentina had no input into the score. If your team get through to the finals and win - without fouling or cheating -good luck to you.
    After all, you have absolutely nothing else to hope for.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Marco Marco darco, nogo,

    your hilarious giggle may well be short lived, especially when Argentina gets beat,

    and we hope the new kids on the block, do us the honours,
    COSTA RICA

    you may never meat them , Argentina does not want to meet them,
    ha ha .

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @26
    The cock doesn't even warrant a response to his shite posts.
    I believe the RG's play Nigeria next.

    I have many Nigerian friends, so I'll be cheering for Nija.

    If Nigeria beat the RG's I will just shoot my load on the spot.
    Wouldn't even need to touch it.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El Diego

    The 3 Donkees are out on their ass.............hahahaha

    The burros totally outclassed and embarrassing their decrepit culture and country once again

    I hear Oxo are making a new product. The packaging is white with a red cross and they're calling it the 'Laughing stock'. LMFHO

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    Unfortunately I missed the game. Well done to both teams for playing in the World Cup finals and well done to Uruguay for getting the edge in a football game.

    Lovely to see how for some an 11 vs 11 man (22people) football game is the master of economic, social, political, intellectual, moral and military might of a nation. Perhaps this is where Argentines are going wrong.

    Whereas for Brits it's a fun game to play or watch to kill the boredom on a weekend or during mid week.

    Life's a game..........A game of football?

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    3 Donkeys?

    Nah.

    Now 13.000 chickens!

    That's what I call a laughing stock.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    goodbye england.
    another failure and counting

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    I'm not sure I trust the accuracy of your counting ability lol

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #32
    As an impartial observer I agree the England football team don't amount to much. They believe their overblown wages are commensurate with their skill. They should be made to pay their own air fares back.

    However another failure and counting, give us a list of England's failures against Argentina's successes.
    The latter should not take more than a couple of lines although I cannot think of any successes currently from Argentina.
    I suppose most lying and corrupt government, although a few African states might just edge you.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    What do England expect when all the English football clubs have all these International players in their teams....it hardly encourages investment in home grown talent...
    England can then only choose their best teams from the second rate dregs that are left.
    Also these foreign players know exactly how the squad will perform seeing as they play with them on a weekly basis....
    19
    Why would a Scotsman be supporting England...it's a different country..it's not a British team...

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    clearly the usual trolls of this 4th class site do not know too much about football.
    maybe that´s why they insist in mixing sports with politics / diplomatic issues.
    anyway, the truth is england has always stunk.
    they won the w.c. just once in their own soil through cheating.
    and that was almost 50 years ago.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @35
    It didn't stop Spain winning 2 Euros and 1 World cup.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Well an Argentine giving opinion on cheating should certainly be listened to.

    I think the legal term is, Expert Evidence!!!!!!

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    37.

    How much foreing players does a average spanish club have in comparisson to the english clubs??

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #36
    They won the w.c. just once in their own soil through cheating.]

    1986 Maradonna ? Of course Argentina NEVER cheat - they probably think that punching a ball into the net is fair game.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    40
    stop whining.

    btw, welll done scotland
    argentina 19 - scotland 21
    it was very even

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @41
    Yes, a good match.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @CD
    55% vs 35% according to this research:

    http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/01/21/new-research-foreign-players-at-record-levels-across-european-football-210102/

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    England is out of the world cup. English people are not interested.

    Argentina is stony broke. Argentinians cant understand that their country tanked at tbe Olympics getting only one gold medal vs 29 for Great Britain.

    Conclusion - Argentina is useless at sport!

    Bahahahaha

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El Diego

    A brief history of political corruption in 3 donkey land....

    heehawheehaw

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_scandals_in_the_United_Kingdom

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.....

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    106/177

    Lol.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve R

    @5 with you all the way, now we can concentrate on a real game :-) and I am happy to support any of the Home Nations at Rugby :-) Just wish the British Ice Hockey team did a little better, then I would be a truly happy chap :-)
    So well done to Scotland and also to the Pumas for giving them a game, what I want now is for Wales and England to up there games against the Springboks and the All Blacks at the weekend

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    44 CaptainSilver
    “England is out of the world cup. English people are not interested”

    Are you stupid or American?

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Whoopee shit!

    So England's out of the cup.

    WGAF.

    Not me.

    Jun 20th, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    49
    Most of England I would imagine.....
    No one wanted to see England go out in the group stage for the first time in half a century....
    ...even I was sorely disappointed.....
    I'm hoping Germany takes it....

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Little bit of perspective here I think.

    It's only Football.

    Dickhead living in Bermondsey is trying to paint it as a National tragedy, which lets face it? It's not!

    Holland my favourite.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #41
    I am not whining. You said England won by cheating. All I did was to point out that Argentina was guilty of winningwith a blatant foul by Maradonna against England to which he admitted. I also remember Rattin getting sent off in 1966..

    #45
    Look up an English dictionary. Scandal and corruption mean two different things. When you understand the basics of English, please feel free to post again.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Cut him some slack Clyde.

    His foot pump broke and he had to inflate Giselle manually or should that be orally, his head is still spinning and to top it all, when he took her out, he forgot the puncture repair kit!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 05:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Marcos, most English people are not interested in 22 millionaires kicking a pigs bladder around a field and acting like nancys, thats a game for South Americans and Italians who like to whinge and cry a lot. Its all about money and less about skill. But… I suppose someone like yourself with a walnut brain hung between their legs would have difficulty comprehending that?

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    Completely agree CaptainSilver. A number of friends and I didn't even see the game. When told the score we laughed and said no surprises there and then started talking about something interesting about Software. It really is the least important thing in probably 55million peoples lives in the UK. Then there's a small number who are a bit over the top about it and run around throwing bottles, chairs and toys out the pram..... Throwing toys out the pram...... That reminds me of a whole country...... Can't think which one though (sarcasm) ;-)

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    is amused by all the fuss over this.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    The British Press doesn't seem that bothered either. I don't think we were expecting all that much. Hey,ho, the good life goes on.

    From the comments by Argentine contributors you can completely understand why the K's have taken over football in Argentina as the vehicle for mass manipulation. It really is that important to the demographic that CFK appeals to. They have a church dedicated to Maradona! Bless them.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Hey I saw the Maradona Church on tv. The Road to Rio or something.

    Cute, slightly crazy, but quite sweet really.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Like anyone here expected them to do well in the competition?

    That's like an Argentine expecting SCOTUS would rule in favour of them.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    59
    That is strange ...but so true, I haven't met a single person that expected England to do well....
    Yet in the 2010 competition I was at Earls Court for a show and most people left the show to go to the pubs across the road to watch England and Germany play.....
    (there was a private big Screen for Vendors inside to watch, but not public)
    The roads were deserted and quiet, barely any traffic....was like a ghost town..
    ....But there was expectation in the air....

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Ah that's the England Germany factor!

    It's always been thus and would probably have been the same, had the two teams been paired in the same group for this competition.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @60 Probably the team we have. A lot of our previous star players were left out because of age, their decision to retire from international duty or just the manager's choice. The current squad is less tested or inspiring.

    You also have to factor in that we are quite willing, you could say keen, to be critical of our national teams. We don't go in for the blind faith and devotion of other countries. It is just a game.

    We didn't expect much of this team so the media are being less harsh than if the team had been carrying our hopes to Brazil.

    I am excited to watch Chile progress and who wouldn't want a little more Tico time?

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Anything could happen now. Holland on fire. Chile looking strong. Spain out. Brazil less impressive than expected. Germany rock solid.
    Argentina has the easiest group, everyone accepts that as a fact, so they will not be tested until the next stage.
    As Elaine says, no one in England had high expectations of this squad and agreed that this was a mere training/bonding exercise than any serious try for the Finals. It is quite ridiculous for the inane trolls to use the exit of England as an attempt to insult the Brits. Makes them look more foolish.

    Anyway, I am sticking to what I have said all along. I expect to see Germany in the Final. Not necessarily win it, but definitley make it through to the last game.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    I agree Ilsen. Germany have a very strong team, and good on them if they get to the final.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    43. Great charts !

    More than half of the players in “English” football a foreign vs 35% of foreigners in the Spanish leagues. I think its pretty clear and obvious that if you continue to select players from lesser and second rank teams in the coutry you have a loser team.

    English contributers here are being great “cool” losers. Now nobody cares about football in England... The bigest football consumption market in the world.... Yeah right

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @65 There is a big difference between caring about football and accepting when your team is just was not good enough. Can you see the difference?

    I should add that we like many sports here but we do know how to keep it in perspective.

    In general:

    TTT claims repeatedly that NO ONE in Argentina cares about the Olympics and yet Buenos Aires is supposed to be hosting the Summer Olympic Youth Games in 2018.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    But you are not demanding your players to deliver.... You and many other contributers the first reaction was too praize Uruguay and the others and say ohh well we are rubbish anyway..

    But if you are rubbish why do you need to praize Suarez for knocking out a rubbish team ??
    Why did plus 50 k Eng tourists travel to Brazil??

    Even I think England played a good and better football than Uruguay.

    You have a problem with attitude, you should be demanding heads rolling over and cut back on the number of foreign players but it must be racist or un PC to do so, I dont know. Something is not quite right there

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @67 You raise some interesting points.

    I think Hodgson should do the honourable thing and fall on his sword. Others don't agree with me. It is only football.

    It is good manners in sport to praise the opposing team if you win or they beat you. And, since Suarez had been in the UK a long time, I guess we can recognise a good player when we see one. It is only football.

    England did play some good football in the first game. It was quite exciting. Our defence in the Uruguay game was shocking. But, it is only football.

    I absolutely agree there should be a limit on foreign players in the Premiership. It is applied in cricket so I don't think it is a case of not being PC, but rather that football is ruled by money. It ruins the game, IMO. Rich owners want to buy their way to winning because of the huge amount of money they make by doing so. It needs to stop but it is only football.

    50k from the UK (I thought is was 35k but let's take your figure) went to the WCFs because they love to watch football. I doubt any but a handful after too much ale expected England to win it. Maybe a high percentage were hoping they would a least get to the 1/4 finals. But it is STILL football, whoever is playing.

    I can enjoy a game no matter if England are involved. We get to see the best players in the world at the top of their game. Who wouldn't enjoy that? I am so looking forward to Chile's next game and Costa Rica and even Argentina later today.

    This absolute devotion to the game is strangely Italian. There they say, 'you can change your wife, you can change your religion, but you can never change your football team'. I guess that is why the K's chose to exploit football as a way to get to the masses. It wouldn't work here because it is only football.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    The thing is football is a true sport of the world masses.

    I like Tennis, but it is a expensive sport and takes years of practice to play in a acceptable level and there is not a court in every corner and not widespread.
    With a small bunch of guys a jacket or a bin of whatever to use as goalies and a clear pitch you already have a football game.

    And coming to think about it not many sports if any, are as cheap and flexible as football is.
    Its easy to become good at something expensive that very few people in the world play or practice like Rugby or Baseball

    Ii think you spend to much and follow to much on a sport that “is only football”The thing is football is a true sport of the world masses.

    I like Tennis, but it is a expensive sport and takes years of practice to play in a acceptable level and there is not a court in every corner and not widespread.
    With a small bunch of guys a jacket a bin of whatever to use as goalies and a clear pitch you already have a football game.

    And coming to think about it not many sports if any, are as cheap and flexible as football is.
    Its easy to become good at something expensive that very few people in the world play or practice like Rugby or Baseball

    Ii think you spend to much and follow to much on a sport that “is only football”

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Football is a business here. It is big business, so it doesn't really cost the individual unless they are involved. The government doesn't pay for free football for all. The businesses involved certainly do invest a great deal. Attending games is expensive and purchasing sports channels costs, though is pretty affordable for all.

    Cricket is played in a lot of developing countries. They may not have all the gear but a ball and a stick. I have seen it played in the way football is, on scrap land. Same with basketball. Rugby could be played with a ball and jumpers for goal posts.

    Tennis can be more elitist but we have tennis courts in most towns and villages. Local authority courts. Tennis clubs charge very low fees for children. I used to play every break time at school. I think the big difference is individual sports v team sports. Or to play any sport professionally. How many play footie in Argentina to one Messi?

    I don't want to give the impression I don't understand the love of football at all levels of the game. People love to kick a ball around and any Sunday during the season, on every playing field there will be kids teams playing. It is great exercise, great character building and fun. My point is that the country is not going into mourning because we didn't win something we never expected to win.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Sorry I double answered you in the previous post...

    I don't know Elaine I think you are just sidelining the whole thing to much. The actual facts are you have never won a Euro cup. Even Czechoslovakia USSR and FRG countries that no longer exist have won them. And the last time you beated a serious rival in a official tournament was Bielsa's Argentina 12 years ago. Other than that have you beaten a moderate european team like Sweden, Portugal, Netherlands or France ... Not to mention the big ones like Italy, Spain or Germany in a non friendly match??
    There is no excuses. You record is appalling. In Argentina they would be hanging on a lamp post Grondona to the players if they had such a loser and appalling record

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @71 So why would we be in mourning over this latest loss? That was my point.

    Yes, that is the difference. In Argentina, as in Italy, a game of football is deemed more important than love or religion, And in your words, worthy of murder. Maybe that is why there have been over 250 football related deaths in Argentina since 2012.

    Perspective. It is a game.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Ooh!

    Almost Half-time.

    Argentina 0 - 0 Iran

    What larks!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Now you know well I wasn't being literal.

    Im not saying you should be mourning, but your “cool” loser and apolagetic attitude as a country is not helping either.

    You should be asking yourselves what you havent done in the last 12 years has being done by Costa Rica in less than a week.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Iran v argentina, it's been an interesting game so far.
    Iran are playing well.

    First half over, and no goals yet.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I think ElaineB makes some very salient points.

    In particular that English national identity, (and confidence), doesn't rest solely on the performance of one team in one sport.

    Any way, well done to Iran for holding the first half against much stronger rivals.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    They are all covering the goalie this Iranians. One that Argentina puts in they are done for. To much of a easy group has made the players very lazzy

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    71
    The problems is ...you are not a Brit...so you will never understand them. You assume that because they may agree with certain points that they think like you....
    ....they don't...
    Look at the football fans on here...they are already choosing the next team they are going to support and cheer on.....their defeat forgotten and excited for the next team...Germany or Holland or whatever.....
    It's a game....
    For me it's Germany and I'd like to see the Yanks do well and maybe Russia...

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @74 I am not brushing it aside. I am sure some people here are disappointed and others have even torn up their World Cup wall charts. It just is hard to be upset for too long.

    As I said in previous posts, you make some interesting points. There should be questions but it goes so much deeper. The game in England is big business first. The Premiership is the most important league in the world. Players from all over the world want to play in The Premiership.

    The England team would have pulled on their shirts with pride at playing for England and be deeply disappointed they didn't progress further. But the money is not in playing for the national team and that is one of the problems. Do you know how the league clubs manipulate 'injuries' to avoid letting their players play for the national team? The clubs have so much money invested in players they don't want them risking injury playing for England. So, whenever there are friendlies where the players could learn to play as a team and the manager could try out different formations, half the players are suddenly 'injured' and unavailable. They will release them for the WCFs but it is a bit late. Other players retire from national games to prolong their club careers.

    But, putting it into perspective, it is what it is.

    I shall still enjoy watching other teams progress.

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  • CabezaDura2

    78.
    Its normal and in Argentina everybody ends up suporting the team that plays well and really works and put a heart to it... I myself will like Argentina to go as far as it is just, I dont think they deserve nor will win this WC, and if they do it would be used politically by the Ks, the ammount of jingoistic epic propaganda allingened with the gov't that is on state television is un precedented. Its as if they have expropriated the team like the generals did in 1978.

    Nobody honest will say they are indifferent that their side is humiliated and puts up a poor performance.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Have to say this ref looks like he's an argentina fan.

    I would have made him put the corner flag back himself.

    He also seems to not notice when an Iranian gets fouled.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    That guy Dejagah is a good player

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Have to say this ref looks like he's an argentina fan.

    I would have made him put the corner flag back himself.

    He also seems to not notice when an Iranian gets fouled.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    There has been far worse refeering in this WC.

    What I didn't like is when he comes in the way of a pass in an Iranian counterattack. That is gross.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Vamo vamo, Argentinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    Vamo vamo a ganááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááaááá
    K'esta barra, Kilomberaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    No te deja, no te deja de alentááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááá

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Nothing to cheer about this embarrassing performance. Beating Iran whos players just felt the tie was safe in the 90th minute. Playing like this we may well be kicked out in quarters easily after a battered Switzerland.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @86
    Agreed.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    Grande Messi.
    Pure magic.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    One of the hardest fought yet I think.

    Well done Iran and argentina teams, a truly tenacious effort from both sides!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    89
    Agree.
    Iran played a lot better than we expected.
    And better than Argentina before Higuain and Agüero were replaced

    Good luck vs South Africa next week.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    BoromBomBon... BoromBomBon...
    Argentina... Kampión...
    ;-)

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Christ, the Ghanans are in good form against The Germans!

    Check out the game!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Vamo vamo, Ghanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    Vamo vamo a Ghanááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááaáá
    K'esta barra, Kilomberaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    No te deja, no te deja de alentááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááááá

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Ya fukcin beauty Ghana!!!!!!!!

    Hud er ghan lik at!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    Hope now that England is out, our english friends on here will cheer for Argentina.
    It would be the more sensible thing to do

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Chaaaaaa cnuuuunt!!!!!

    1 fkuckin 1!!!!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Full respect for Iran holding out for 90 minutes!
    Well Done!

    Currently Ghana leading Germany 2-1
    Amazing!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Well done Ghana.

    Flunking good game!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Wow! Incredible game! Well done Ghana!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Bloody Boches...

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Never underestimate zee Germans. ...

    I have been saying it all along.

    The only team strong at the back four and up front.

    Wait and see I tell you1

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Vee mast Secure zee ssunbeds vit our towls by 07.00 hrs!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Messi Messi Messi
    http://heavy.com/news/2014/06/watch-messi-goal-argentina-iran-vine/

    England Decime Que Se Siente ♪ ♫ ♪

    http://heavy.com/news/2014/06/watch-messi-goal-argentina-iran-vine/

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  • ilsen

    Yup. I rate the sunbed acquisition highly!

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @104
    Loved spike Milligan with his piss-takes of Hitler.

    Jun 21st, 2014 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #103
    Well Marcos, I will have to admit that Argentina are top notch at football AND waving flags.

    Jun 22nd, 2014 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Clyde
    I have to admit England is the mother of football.

    Say hello to papi :)

    Jun 22nd, 2014 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Suarez dreamt he scored two goals, he must be psychic because I dreamt that I would finish my round of golf 10 over par and I did. Does that mean I am psychic too?

    Jun 22nd, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #107
    Say hello to papi :)

    Sorry, but that remark has flown over my head as has - :)

    Jun 22nd, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    109
    Might have worked if he had said Father of football....
    Are you enjoying the heat wave over the last week...?
    Spot of fishing might be in order or are you glued to the Fitba...?

    Jun 22nd, 2014 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (109) & (110)
    Geeeee..... fellas...
    Must one explain EVERYTHING to you Anglos...?
    At (107), Mr. Stevie called England the “MOTHER” of Football...
    and then he told you to say hallo to “PAPI” (“DADDY” in Engrish)...
    And what does an English “DADDY” with “MOTHER” every Thursday evening? You know what I mean? Nudge Nudge - Wink Wink - Say No More - Say No More... ;-)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7HycFnH26U

    Jun 22nd, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Certainly they won't be watching a few girlies play footie.
    Almost as boring as reading the musings of Voicedoverthink.

    Jun 22nd, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    [[- WORLD CUP FINAL --]]

    Ghana -V-Costa rica,
    hey anything's poss. lol

    Jun 22nd, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optical

    Well I'll be honest, I'm truly gutted England went out. I wasn't honestly expecting we'd win the tournament, but like every 4 years, I dare to believe! We'll definitely win in Russia 2018, or in Qatar 2022, or if not then it will be ours in 2026, or maybe 2030!!
    Even though we're out, my flag will be up until our last game, then I can sit back and enjoy the best sporting event on the planet, without all the stress that comes with being an England fan!
    I've watched nearly every match, and look forward to the world cup. I hope Holland win, but I'll enjoy the rest of the tournament from a neutral perspective. Well sort of, I do enjoy seeing certain teams lose!!

    Jun 23rd, 2014 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    As important as winning is how teams handle defeat.
    I hope Argentina or Uruguay go on to win it but I also remember what happened last WC when Germany knocked Argentina out and the ugly scenes that followed.
    It's been a great tournament so far so as we approach knock-out stages, I hope players and fans of losing teams can accept defeat in a mature manner.

    Regarding England, they will trudge back home politely having dismantled the most expensive training and media area in the WC. The FA need to realise football is their main job, not marketing and then may be the players can focus on playing football rather than being forced into a heavy-handed media circus.

    Jun 23rd, 2014 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    The little b__ch Suarez likes to bite just like he did with Abrahimovich now again to Chiellini... Wow nice little turd the english losing butt lickers have for a good player!!
    I now want Uruguay to lose so bad because of this guy

    Jun 24th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FI_Frost

    @116

    The idea that it is better to win by cheating, then by fair play, is an alien concept to us “english butt lickers”.

    Suarez is an outstanding player, but will never be loved in the same way as Kenny Dalglish et al, despite the PFA nod this season. Lots of talent, but no class. Maradona is a saint by comparison - which says alot.

    Jun 24th, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • knarfw

    This incident, along with the previous two, are now available for download. Only 3 megabites.

    Jun 24th, 2014 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Ho hum..... the English..... have been sent homewards tae think again....
    .
    .....???...well today is the 24 June.....
    ???....Bannockburn...24 June 1314.....
    Flùr na h-Alba....(Flower of Scotland)...;-)

    Jun 24th, 2014 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • knarfw

    Scotland must have a fortune saved up by now, it's not like they ever need to use their travel budget.

    Jun 24th, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Oh wow!
    Suarez true colours show!
    He is biting people again.

    The whole nation of Uruguay must be feeling ashamed. Poor sods.

    Utterly disgusting behaviour in a kindergarten, but on a global stage, amongst adults, in front of billions watching?
    He is/was an idol to millions of children. I hope they kick him out of ALL football. Permanently.

    Jun 24th, 2014 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    Ahh the bad old Brits blamed again.
    We make Suarez a multi-millionaire and give him the player-of-the-year award but are still to blame for suggesting he bit someone (for the third time).

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    It's abite time Uruguay won the World Chompianship, losing Suarez will take some of the bite out their attack but they still look hungry for Success.

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • La Patria

    Following on from Be Serious.....
    Suarez was so set on winning he just got the bit between his teeth

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    “I dreamed I was sinking my teeth into my enemy, like the onça.
    I am the lion of the mountains”!

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    122

    Now what I meant the English have a habbit of butt licking anybody that humiliates them on a football pitch... Brilliant stuff for your FA... Just like they did with Suarez each time the cool losers do when they do what they do...lose.

    A country of cool losers that will over estimate rivals and praize their victories in order to take their fare share of responsibilities and portray beating England as a accomplishment ... Just look at this thread

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    126 CD2

    “Now what I meant the English have a habbit of butt licking anybody that humiliates them on a football pitch... Brilliant stuff for your FA... Just like they did with Suarez each time the cool losers do when they do what they do...lose. ”

    and how would you have the English team behave when they are beaten, curse them, stamp their feet, insult them.??

    Sounds childish and nasty.

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    I have no complaints against the England team, they are just rubbish and wwill always be so. They need to be change their leagues, systems, FA everything.

    I little bit of temperament and attitude can do the long run for the English fans and media.
    We have won all 3 of the matches and we are still complaining about the teams fallacies and weak points.

    By simply butt licking who ever defeats you, you end up giving excuses for the teams bad performance and over estimating the guy that beat you.

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    128 CD2

    It's only demeaning to have lost if you make up excuses like saying the other team was “playing dirty” etc.

    You can acknowledge their accomplishment or their skill, without currying favour or sucking up for them to like you.

    Suarez is acknowledged as a skilful player, but none of his opponents, generally, are sucking up to him.

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @128
    “and always will be so”

    Proof please.

    Or at least lend me your crystal ball. I would like the numbers for this week on the Euro Millions Lottery.

    Cheers!

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    129
    In Argentina wheen wwe were kicked out the last time by Germany we warent butt licking Thomas Muller nor Bastian Schweinsteiger, nor Joachim low we were cursing that fat useless junky Maradona as coaching.

    What has English fans cool loser helped them since the 1970s??

    For your information Uruguay and Suarez came to this WC after having to play off Jordania.

    We know them well in South America as the underdog that arrives at the WC after always failing to quallify directly and always ends up going after playing off a rubbish Oceania or Asian team. They are not as good as you think just because they have a good striker in playing England.

    @ilsen the least thing England team could have done after losing against Italy and Uruguay is fill is win against Costa Rica like Spain did with Ozzie.
    There is just no love for the shirt. Its a matter of attitudes that says everything.
    Something is deeply wrong with the system and the attitude of the English fans. You are too used to losing by now. Its seems to have become a tradition.

    Jun 25th, 2014 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    CD2

    I am not sure I understand the point of your post.

    I can understand of you want to taunt us that England lost and is not doing well internationally in Football,
    but I don't see why you are insistent that if England loses in a fair match, they are obligated have a “shit-fit” about their opponents.

    Is this some kind of “macho” thing, or are you trying to kick England and English fans when they are down?

    Jun 26th, 2014 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Mmmm no...I never said to look for excuses or to shovel shit at your opponent, but if a lesser team beats your side then you have some soul searching to do and responsibilities that need to take the blame instead of “ohh but they had a really good player”, etc. If its a matter of being polite thats up to the players in the pitch or the tribunes... Suarez is not going to read the English “cool” losers of MP.

    Of those twwo I will say It's definitely a macho thing. ha!
    Leave it there
    ;-)

    Jun 26th, 2014 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    133 CD2

    I think we agree then - regardless of good players or not - look to yourselves for shortcomings.

    CD, your terms are very provocative, “ass-licking”!! LOL !!

    ...but I know what you mean, now. :-)

    Jun 26th, 2014 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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