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“Show the world you are better than Messi”, Löw told Götze

Monday, July 14th 2014 - 04:58 UTC
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“Show the world you are better than Messi and you can decide the World Cup”, German coach Joachim Löw told Mario Götze before sending him to the field, and effectively scoring the only goal of the match that gave Germany its fourth Cup. Read full article

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  • La Patria

    Germany were the most consistent team in the tournament to congrats to them. Beating both Brazil and Argentina in South America is no easy feat.
    Messi getting Golden Ball is beyond a joke! Another indication of how decisions are made in FIFA.
    Hope the rioting in BA stops soon

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Porto Margaret

    Schwarz Rot Gold gewinnt! Deutchland Weltmeister! Vier Sterne!

    Only tears for the glum Argies and now for the….. default, world champions!

    It doesn’t get any better.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    ja! Deutschland.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre-Vuggevise

    The thing I find most astonishing is how the overwhelming weight of support, on every continent, including South America, was for Germany and against Argentina. That is very telling.

    It doesn't say much about the game that was afoot; but it speaks volumes about the fact that, in truth, Argentina stands alone and desperately isolated in the world.

    Whilst CFK can, occasionally, twist the arms of some of the leaders of neighbouring nations to make the right disingenuous noises needed to help her domestic propaganda; those same leaders, with the support of their people, are all quietly signing new treaties with Argentina's avowed enemies.

    Argentina's consolation prize? A Golden Ball trophy for Lionel Messi, that, within minutes, had already become the most derided award within living memory .. accumulating more howls of ridicule than even Obama's laughable Nobel Peace Prize.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @4 “Argentina stands alone and desperately isolated in the world.”

    But the Argentina government are stating that the fact that Putin visited for a few hours proves they are NOT isolated. :)

    Did anyone else find the 'stalker camera' on Messi after the game a bit much? Surely they should have been focusing on the winning team.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nololly

    Elaine, the point of the camera was to show the world the glum face of the worlds 'best footballer'. This is a nice bit of schaldenfreud that the whole world can enjoy. Yes, the Argentinians are despised by many who know them and their foul viveza criolla ways worlwide. This time the liar nation that thinks its ok to lie, cheat and resist paying your debts got soundly beaten. A great foil to the so called hand of god where the little worm openly celebrated his little bit of VC and thus became a national hero.
    They need to reform their morals in the Dark Country but the way things are its never gonna happen.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @6 I got that but after 30 seconds I wanted them to move on to the Germans celebrating their win.

    Politics aside, Argentina made it to the WCFs. I didn't think they played their best football throughout the tournament but they contributed to an entertaining final last night. The Argentine players had to wait a long time for the ceremony, were hugely disappointed and stood with good grace. Let's be honest, the game was close and could have gone either way.

    If we are talking politics, it was very noticeable that Merkel turned up to support the German team and CFK couldn't be arsed to support the Argentine team.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Here here for German efficiency, watching those miserable Argentines having spent all that money to be there, all for nothing. Messi just loved his ball on a stick award didn't he, haha.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    The cup presentation was a bit odd.
    Anyway congratulations to both teams as they both contributed to a surprisingly good final.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    From someone who is not much of a soccer fan, that game seemed to be either team to be had. Argentina certainly had their opportunities and shanked the kicks.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    Congratulations to Germany and their excellent team for an impressive victory!

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Yup, could have gone either way.

    The key difference between the teams was that Messi was off-form on the day;
    his look afterwards showed that the award that he was given was not earned and therefore debased by FIFA.
    And one award winner didn't bother to turn up for his 'gong'!

    Dilma looked like she had sucked a lemon and wished she was anywhere else but there. She should have at least copied the German Chancellor and brightened up a bit when the Germans presented. (On the other hand, we don't know what Putin said to her).

    The actual presentation of the awards were an embarrassment - underprofessional by the stage-party.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @12 “The actual presentation of the awards were an embarrassment - underprofessional by the stage-party.”

    I agree, they were shambolic. At one point a saw Sepp Blatter step in to insist Dilma presented the cup. No one seemed to know what they were doing. And shouldn't there have been some kind of symbolic hand-over to Russia?

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Yes it was close- an nobody can deny that Argentina plays damn good football- but we were all rooting for Germany down here.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    So now we can expect “we was robbed, like the Malvinas all over again, Guv!” crap from our brotherly enemies across the Plate.

    Putin must de really desperate to be siding up to TMBOA and the rest of the losers.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Messi is the best striker in the world, but he is a very mediocre football player.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Germany is a great country, you have to live by the rules. We should copy the way they are organised. The last people to copy is Argentinians. But, British culture is better in many ways. They can both learn many things from us, particularly the Argies.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    17.
    As far as Im aware the Germans are better in all fields than the Brits by far.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @15 I already hear the Argentine coach mentioning that the German team had an extra day of rest.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    I thought Mrs Merkels celebration was a bit over the top….

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10410338_10152383312562530_2687495572544839855_n.jpg

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    18
    ...apart from....“the field of human conflict”....
    (did you see what I did there?)....;-)

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    It's quite clear, taking into account the comments here, that some Islanders are similar to The Campora boys...they always mixing things (sports with politics) with extreme fanatism !!!

    The final match was really a nice game defined in the second half of the additional time. So it was quite balanced. Much better performance than the achivements of a decadent English national team without personality or any willingness to succed......learn no to leave the next WC so early !!!

    By the way do the FI have a footbal team that represents the Islands? Do they have two (one for one Island)? Where do they play?

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @22 “Much better performance than the achivements of a decadent English national team without personality or any willingness to succed......learn no to leave the next WC so early !!!”

    You just did a La Campora there!

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    @23

    I will not make any excuse nor acusse of favoritism to the German team. The Argentine media has the very same attitude. The players do the same. The Germans won a beautiful game and the were the best in the championship.
    The Argentine team did also a magnificent championship supplementing with effort, and sacrifice, some technical shortcomings.

    Laughing about the losing ones is a sign of mediocrity and its typical of those incompetent that enloy others defeats.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @24 What? I and others on here have posted that the game was very even and well played. Argentina lacked a little luck on their side but the game could have gone either way.

    I think you are just shit stirring.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    #18 If you had spent any time in Germany you would have found:

    There is a certain lack of tolerance and less humanity, especially to foreigners
    British creative industries are far superior to theirs
    Britains financial expertise is far superior to theirs

    Germany now owns many British companies and grafts their manufacturing skills onto British creations. The results are often world beaters. But… when German designers are let loose on things like the Mini it can result in ugly awful things like this….http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mini/countryman/first-drives/mini-cooper-s-countryman-all4

    We all have our skills, be proud of the tango!

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    Yes? Are you sure? Read the comments 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 15....

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jbrenn

    #4 What smacks of desperation is your nonsensical post.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    I understand Argentina are going to complain to the UN C24 and ask for a rematch.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    27 pgerman

    I don't see any comments making fun of the game, just the political aftermath and the undisguised lack of graciousness of Dilma that a Euro team and not a LATAM team won.

    BTW, if you want to criticise is for mixing football and politics, forget it, Argentina's State football team politicised it themselves when they brought out their Malvinas banner.

    I had a great time driving into North Vancouver yesterday with my German supporter “earmuffs” on the mirrors of my German car.

    Got lots of thumbs-ups and horn honking.
    Passed an “Argentine” minivan on the way home.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    Without depreciating the German goalies efforts, I think the man who most deserved the golden glove was Tim Howard of the USA squad.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    SPOT ON Troy!

    That will teach them to wave their stupid banners.

    Instead of rioting like in BA last night they can get back to intimidating visiting British cruise ship passengers, burning tyres etc etc…

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Deutschland Deutschland ueber alles... (natuerlich im Fussbal)

    Close game, but poor Brazil would have been devastated if Messi had scored.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    I am very pleased Germany won.

    I think the fact Argentina failed to score a goal in 4hrs of semi-final/final play suggests that it would hardly have been a fitting victory.

    Secondly, Aguerro trying to gouge out Schweinsteigers eye was probably worth a defeat in itself.

    Thirdly, Germany were the better team throughout the tournament and probably edged it on the night.

    Finally..any team that stands behind a banner that supports colonialism, ethnic cleansing and a fantasy version of history have already mixed sport with politics and are not worthy world champions.

    Generally most people in the UK would have though “anyone but the Germans”, but yesterday it was proven otherwise...everyone I talked to wanted germany to win.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    ah..what a saddest thing to see how some people make fun of the defeat of the national team of others when their own team accomplishes nothing ever .. or haven't won anything for decades....

    Obviously, people in this site like to mix politics with sport and show their hate felt to other country. I ask myself why there were so many outraged people just because a signal shown by the Argentine National Team

    Well, well, don't worry, keep on working to improve the level of your National Teams.......one day may be you will reach the level to play a final test in a WC.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    35

    If you have to ask why there are so many outraged people because of a sign held up by the Argentine team, then you are more stupid than I took you for. Which in itself is quite an achievement.

    As far as not winning anything in decades goes...Argentina have only won the World Cup once, in 1986 when they had to cheat to do it.

    Obviously, the “victory” in 1978 doesnt count as that was “under the Junta” and we know nothing that happened “under the Junta” had anything to do with Argentina.

    Hope that clears it up...

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    #35 We are far from stupid, thats why your invasion force was defeated and thrown out of our islands. In contrast, is just a game, football. And if you want to make sporting comparisons look where many Argentinians are playing, in our leagues and look at your Olympic sporting prowess - useless.
    If you politicise sport and constantly bang on about stealing peoples homes, expect to reap what you sow, mutual hostility.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    Chileans backing Germany......British backing Germany.....Brazilians backing Germany.....Islanders backing Germany.....waaa.......don't you have your own national teams? Someone must be evicted, resigned and frustrated to do that !!!

    Anyway Germany is a great Champion that deserves the cup...well done Germany !!!

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    Anyway thank goodness that footy nonsense for softies and girlies has been put to bed for another 4 years. Time for Rugby Union to take centre stage as the only true World game for men.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    1) grat WC. Great brazilian organization. great stadiums. For those that criticized Brazil, that they wont get in time, that they arent able to build or organize such a world competition, here you have.
    2) Did the germans celebrate??? they won the world cup, and just jump a litttle and smile for the photo?? No passion this guys.
    3) Arg was a fair team in all its matches. Didnt make a goal with the hand, didnt kick the back of any player, didnt “tirarse para que le cobren penal” like Robben did, didnt bite (morder) any player, etc. Arrived at the final and lose with dignity. Didnt CHEAT, like the brit propaganda machine, not independent wants to suggest & show : Messi comiéndose los mocos en un entrenamiento ( Isaw it only in the BBC), etc etc.
    And no Malvinas propaganda bans, nothing of that. Arg played fairly, fairly.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @38

    You seem to have forgotten who made the childish political slogan at the start of the tournament. After that 'flagrant and decadent' attempt to mix politics with sport as Argentina does at every available opportunity, they deserved to lose (as they always do) and I am glad they did. Well done Germany.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @39
    I agree with you entirely, Rugby is a true sport. How many times have we seen diving and holding back in the WC. Not to mention the shouting at the referee to try and change his decision, you want to try that in rugby, you would be sent to the sinbin for ten minutes. They really ought to bring that in football.I think this WC has been the dirtiest in living memory.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    By the way...Was the Argentine Footbal Asociation, or the team, been sanctioned for the “childish political slogan” at the start of the tournament?
    It might happens that it was not against the rules...

    I truly agree with the concepts about Rugby..I love this sport...my favourite one. But in the RWC we won't see any chilean team, not a brazilian one...not to mention the Island team...do you play rugby in the FI?

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    And also arg fans, so much criticized, as if arg are not civilized people, no problems.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @44
    Civilised people? Sore losers I think.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-28291309

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redp0ll

    @43 from the touch line.
    The Pumas could be a great team if the Rugby Board stopped bickering among themselves. You really need a great player and captain like Augustin Pichot to knock some heads together . Rugby is no longer an amateur sport and to win its a full time occupation
    The same can be said for our Uruguayan Teros. Uruguayan Rugby is becoming increasingly popular in the interior with a lot of young players to chose from.
    Now that rugby sevens is an Olympic Sport I think this will be a great fillip to the game.
    I wouldn't write off the Chileans or the Brazilians. In particular the women's team in Brazil seems to be training pretty hard for that event.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • albinita

    @45 I don't understand what you meant you said civilised people showing the same kind of riots you have suffered in 2011. Different fields, but similar disgusting behaviour.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Great football and a great match to watch,
    Russia next time, and perhaps we will get a bit further next time..

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Ah yes Rugby, I remember when a scratch England team played the Pumas last time. Heh heh.. Anyway, the Italians started out pretty desperately and now they are playing attractive Rugby and have even beaten some of the home nations so theres hope for the Pumas yet. The Venezualan team were very good company when I got stuck in Bogata airport for 8 hours. They were very good at singing so I taught them the words to The Wild West show and some of Eskimo Nell. Came over very well with their accents. Some US citizens werent impressed.

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    45 in Brasil.
    And:
    www.nexofin.com/notas/el-agresivo-tuit-de-la-cuenta-oficial-de-los-ingleses-en-malvinas-n-/

    Jul 14th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    Did anyone hear an Argentine congratulate Germany on their win? I havent.

    Jul 15th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    a bunch of sad islanders, english wannabes, opining about football is the most pathetic thing ever.
    the bunch of halfwits say that the rest of latin america supported germany, ignoring that this is just football.
    there is a big rivalry between argentina, brazil and uruguay.
    the same that you, bunch of ignorants, can find between australia and new zealand in rugby.
    it does not mean hatred or enmity.

    on the other hand, the bunch of ignorants laugh because argentina lost THE FINAL, while england was eliminated in the first round.

    stick to your favorite sport of chasing sheep and penguins, little islanders, and try not to opine about things you don´t have the slightest clue.

    Jul 15th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    52 fanboyPablo

    aw... sore loser.

    “Just football”, but you couldn't even congratulates the Germans for beating you, or concede they were better players.

    IF, you had won, would it still be “only football” - or would you have dragged out that “sporting” Malvinas banner of yours??

    Childishly, when you win, it seems to be “Argentine National Superiority”, but when you lose, it's sulking and , “ it's just football”

    Enjoy the next 20 years, you should have plenty of time to play ball and scavenge, with no jobs available.

    Jul 15th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    53 toy
    toy you are some kind of plastic canadian + islander, probably the two worst nationalities as far as sports are concerned.
    so, try to be humble and keep it shut.

    and do not mix politics or diplomatic issues + sports, you nabo.

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    54 fanboy Pablo

    “and do not mix politics or diplomatic issues + sports, you nabo.”

    Ha ha ha ...
    ...do you mean like your State football team and their deliberately offensive, Malvinas propaganda banner ???

    I guess you would have brought it out agsin, but for the penis- shrivelling loss you suffered at the hands of the superior Germans.

    @54
    “ ...you are some kind of plastic canadian + islander, probably the two worst nationalities as far as sports are concerned.”

    If we go by your logic,
    Your team were losers, and by extension - YOU are a loser, too !!!

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    a bunch of sad islanders, english wannabes, opining about football is the most pathetic thing ever.
    ,,,,,
    Ah, but you lost...lol

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    55 toy / 56 briton wannabe
    do you have any kind of national team in the islets?
    football, rugby union, cricket, field hockey team, whatever?
    no?
    you cannot even compete.
    you are the losers, balludos.

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @50
    Yes those tweets were hilarious. Can't you take a joke?

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    57@
    how very childish can you be,
    for your information we do have a British team,
    we had [team GB ] in the Olympics,
    and the only loser here are Argentinian bloggers who like to change the subject, or insults to avoid the truth.
    mmmmmm

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @52
    “a bunch of sad islanders, english wannabes, opining about football is the most pathetic thing ever.”
    hmmm.... as I recall...
    en.mercopress.com/2014/05/22/suarez-to-undergo-knee-surgery-according-to-sports-news-uruguay-plays-england-19-june
    14 ilsen (#)
    May 22nd, 2014 - 03:24 pm
    Anyone else think Germany can do it? I am just curious and am thinking about putting a littler wager on for fun.
    16 ilsen (#)
    May 22nd, 2014 - 03:48 pm
    Never underestimate zee Germans!
    They went out to Brazil early and privately buit their own training camp as they didn't trust the holders to deliver to the standards they require!
    (…)
    Argentina should make the semi-finals but I am not 100% convinced about Brazil having a clean run.
    Is there a possibility that Brazil will collapse under the incredible pressure? That the weight of expectation might be to overbearing?
    Any thoughts on that theory?
    ---------------------
    46 paulcedron (#) May 23rd, 2014 - 03:49 pm
    43 ilsen
    ”Possibly of the four I might have kept Franco Di Santo (Werder Bremen) on the bench but I think Sabella has got it about right.”
    so you might have di santo instead of tevez?
    you are a joke.
    52 paulcedron (#) May 24th, 2014 - 01:23 am
    51 ilsen
    your knowledge of football is zero (0)
    about argentinian football is even less than that.
    so, keep it shut.
    --------------------------------------
    Ok, paulie, I'm feeling smug.
    :-)
    How you doing?

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    my god, you lot ended cheering for ...germany.
    now, that is being a loser.
    you could not even cheer for england.
    and a lot less for the falklands (again, do you have any kind of national team there?)

    hope you all cheer for los pumas in the next TRC, as the good neighbours you are.

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    haha!
    someone call an ambulance!
    paulcedron just got burnt!

    Can you hear him squeal?

    Thank God I “know nothing about football”, ”zero (0)”,

    :) aarrffff!!!!

    too funny!

    Jul 16th, 2014 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Fanboy- Pablo

    We just came to play a game of football.

    If you feel you must use a sport on an international stage for a show of political arrogance to try and show you don't care who you stick it to... you should at least, try to win .

    As usual, you didn't have what it takes to back up your mouth.

    We're still laughing at you, just like your 'bestest buddies' Brazil etc .

    Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Paul Squealeron.

    Tick tock, nearly default time. Tick tock, getting louder by the minute.

    Jul 17th, 2014 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    toy
    “We just came to play a game of football.”
    yes?
    where?
    in the islets or in canada?
    guess we can find a lot of talented footballers there. LOL

    mrs. ilsen tempest
    off topic mrs ilsen.
    do not mix sports with economy, you dumbass

    Jul 17th, 2014 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    65 fanboy

    Again

    It is only Argentina that politicised the World Cup.

    Only Argentina that thought the rules were not for them.

    Jul 17th, 2014 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Fully agree.

    Jul 17th, 2014 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 61 pollo (that really suits you)
    “again, do you have any kind of national team there?”

    The Falklands sent their own fullbore target rifle team to Bisley for the Open Championships and damn good they were.

    Learnt to shoot by shooting geese in the head with a 0.22rf lr rifle in all that wind. Any of them would have no trouble at all putting a 7.62x51 target bullet in your tiny head at 1,000 yards (621M for you numbskulls or should I say NOskulls).

    I would pay real money to see that.

    Jul 17th, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    imbecile 68
    so 1000 yards are 624 meters, you genius?
    where did you study maths, in the puerto estanlei university, you halfwit?

    and a target rifle team?
    LOL

    ignorants, losers AND boring

    Jul 17th, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Can't wait for the 2016 Olympics in Brazil.

    Even if the underfunded RG teams can afford to travel there, they won't win anything, and still won't be able to look the Germans in the eye.

    Watch the UK walk all over them when it comes to the medal count.

    Poor fanboy Pablo Credenza

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Haha haha haha haha haha haha!
    Listen to the little piggy squealing!

    This guy says I know nothing about football and does. Check out @60 for the truth. No wonder he is weeping. Argentina lost. Germany won. I was right.

    Paulie Squealeron is a fool. Proved! Haha!

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    couple of idiots toy and mrs ilsen
    the uk won a medal or two in the last olympics because they were the hosts.
    anyway, who cares about athletics?
    the important thing are team sports, you pair of pelotudos, and in all of them argentina excels.

    it seems you both are german now?
    pathetic losers, you don´t even compete

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @72 niño Pablo Credenza

    “the uk won a medal or two in the last olympics because they were the hosts.
    anyway, who cares about athletics?
    the important thing are team sports,”

    Says who, niño ??

    The Olympics are far more important than the Soccer World Cup.

    Poor loser - Argentina soundly beaten in the Olympics - and we won more than “ one or two” medals.

    Are you seriously saying that the host nations are fixing the results??
    Ha ha, only in Argentina would someone expect that.
    Will that be your excuse when Brazil beats you?

    Maybe there is a small training advantage and morale boost for the host country.

    2010 Winter Olympics
    Vancouver

    Canada 1st - 26 medals

    Russia 11th - 15 medals

    Great Britain 19th - 1 gold

    Argentina - no medals
    7 athletes in 3 events

    2012 Summer Olympics London

    Great Britain 3rd - 65 medals

    Russia 4th - 81 medals

    Canada 36th - 18 medals

    Argentina 42nd - 4 medals

    2014 Winter Olympics
    Russia

    Russia 1st - 33 medals

    Canada 3rd - 25 medals

    Great Britain 19th - 4 medals

    Argentina - no medals

    Oh, and Germany beat you fairly in Soccer too !!!!

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    65 medals is hardly 'one or two'
    4 is a bit closer.

    So now Paulie Squealeron is saying host nations 'fix' competitions. What went wrong in Brazil then?
    Seems he knows nothing at all about sport, not just about football.

    Still hasn't replied to my post @60
    @62
    “mrs. ilsen tempest
    off topic mrs ilsen.
    do not mix sports with economy, you dumbass”

    Your COUNTRY tried to mix politics with football.
    Where is your banner now? Any news on the investigation by FIFA?
    Have you lot bribed Uncle Sepp to make it 'go away'
    Here is a nice photo of some Argie criminals and rule-breakers...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27846311

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    74 ilsen

    and PabloCredenza still hasn't acknowledged the superior athleticism, skill, and teamwork of the German players, that allowed them to beat Argentina so handily.

    No congratulations, no “well played Worthy Adversary”, from PabloCredenza or any of the Argie Trolls - just shows they are only “sportsmen” when they win.

    Sad really.

    Grow up little pollo.
    You are just like Nostrils.

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @75
    Thanks for the Stats on the Olympics. Made me feel all warm inside! I was in London for the Summer Olympics, just fantastic it was!

    So, Argentina only got 4 medals? Not 65 like the UK? How odd considering all the chest-thumping arrogance about being rich and powerful and sophisticated. On all my travels in LatAm many, many people I have met there say that the Argies are snobs and think (falsely) that they are somehow superior. Not very popular it would seem.

    I said from the start I thought Germany were the best TEAM in the World Cup. Pollo McSquealer kept banging on about Messi. Others equally focused far to much on individuals. Now he has the cheek to talk about team sports (!) after accusing me of knowing nothin, zero (0) about football. Ha ha! The tosser.
    So, 4 medals in the Summer Olympics in London. 1 silver in Rio.
    Not a great record.

    I have said on other threads that I didn't expect much from the English team this time and never deviated from it.
    I also was one of the first to congratulate Germany, as I would have done any country that won.
    Maybe it is time he stopped posting here. Never won a debate in his life.

    Kind regards to Mrs Tempest and any little Tempestitos (!)

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    How Amazing are these argies,
    they ridicule us for not winning more medals at the Olympics,
    yet they won none,

    they try to ridicule us over the commonwealth games,
    yet Argentina is not even taking part,

    so what is all the fuss over,
    why are you argies so jealous of us, are you envy of us, or is it just plain hatred of everything British...

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @77
    Absolute jokers. Jealous fools.
    Won't be in the Commonwealth Games, as not members, obviously! But are member of
    a) Mercosur - yet can't do a Trade deal with the EU in 15 years...
    b) members of the Chavez-inspired Bank of the South, a legal entity since 2009, yet has NO money still, 2014!. (Cristina promised $4 billion as part of her country's responsibility in the set-up, yet to be seen!)
    c) member of UNASUR/CELAC/OAS which have done nothing of note for a long time
    d) member of the 'most notorious debtors in the history of the world club' -informal!

    I could go on but am losing the will to live. Off for a nice pint of bitter in one of North london's lovely 'garden' Pubs.

    More later...

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    76 ilsen

    A little humour to lighten the mood, and reassure PabloCredenza the Inferior, we the North Americans and Brits, do not pick on the Argentines more than anyone else.

    Apologies to our French friends.

    A Bit of British Humour:

    The train was quite crowded and a U.S. Marine walked the entire length
    of the train looking for a seat, but the only seat left was taken by a
    well dressed, middle aged French woman's poodle.
    The war-weary Marine asked, “Ma'am may I have that seat”?
    The French woman just sniffed and said to no one in particular
    “Americans are so rude. My little Fifi is using that seat”.
    The Marine walked the entire train again, but the only seat left was
    under that dog.
    Please Ma'am, may I sit down, I'm very tired?
    She snorted, “Not only are you Americans rude you are also arrogant”.
    This time the Marine didn't say a word, he just picked up the little
    dog, tossed it out the train window and sat down.
    The woman shrieked “Someone must defend my honour! This American should
    be put in his place!”
    An English gentleman sitting nearby spoke up. “Sir, you Americans seem
    to have a penchant for doing the wrong thing. You hold your fork in
    the wrong hand. You drive your cars on the wrong side of the road.
    And now, Sir, you seem to have thrown the wrong bitch out the window”.

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @79
    Absolutely Superb!
    I have copy/pasted/posted on social media. Thank you!
    Your humour will now be appreciated across the globe.
    :)

    Just had a lovely pint of 'Summer Lightening' from The Hopback Brewery, in my local Pub. Very refreshing on a lovely warm evening in old London town...
    http://www.hopback.co.uk/beer-shop/summer-lightning.html

    Veru civilised it was too...!
    :)

    Jul 19th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    No children begging outside, I take it?

    :-)

    Jul 20th, 2014 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Hi Troy!
    haha! @81

    No, couldn't get Chiclets or 'singles', (polluted chinese fake cigarettes sold individually), anywhere! Not a starving kid in sight! How disappointing... (refreshing!)
    No desperate looking prostitutes either, of either sex (!) ... haha!!
    Just had to sit back, soak up the atmosphere, smell the flowers and drink quality ale, amongst a very lively, intelligent, international crowd of erudite, beautiful people. Most were quite well-dressed, but London is hugely diverse, so I won't judge!

    Life sucks sometimes! Nothing like Lat Am. I had even had to put up with a CLEAN glass, (!) and toilet roll and hot water AND liquid soap AND moisturiser AND vortex Hand-dryers in the amenities. Never seen in Vene-Cuba anymore except in Government offices. Maybe a few years back, but not now! Disgustingly decadent! I immediately wished to start my own Bolivarian Revolution and drag everybody down into the gutter.
    The bastards! How dare they be so happy and content!
    Imagine! No street kids harrassing you! No crack addict beggars! No dodgy 'secret' police! No drug pushers! No-one making assumptions because of your skin colour/clothes! Ridiculous!

    just civilisation!

    God. Things have really gone down-heel in North London!

    Not even a scary gunshot from a neighbouring street! No fear walking the few streets back to my apartment! The street lights were working!
    How shocking!
    (I did feel a bit more comfortable when I saw a smashed bottle, although some ignorant fool was sweeping it into the gutter with his foot, the arsehole! His partner was even watching for traffic, limited to, and obeyed, at 20 mph in a residential area, the cow!)
    Not even any need to hide my phone or money! Some crazy fools were even openly chatting on £5oo phones, in the street! Others even got drunk without fear of robbery/kidnapping. I even saw some rich people without armed bodyguards! Crazy, huh?

    We could learn a lot from Vene-Cuba/Argentina!

    hahahahaha!

    Jul 20th, 2014 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    toy
    and that joke is funny for you?
    it seems it is funny for your bootlicker ilsen too.
    pathetic

    back to topic, the olympics does not count.
    a lot less when most of the medals were not won by that thing called “UK”, but by scotland.
    so england won 2 or 3 medals and that other thing called falkland islands, zero.

    you both should shut your mouth.

    losers

    Jul 20th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Hehe hehe hee!

    Jul 20th, 2014 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    83 pollo loco

    “back to topic, the olympics does not count.”

    Sure, the Olympics don't count. NObody pays any attention to the Olympics!

    Why do you think Brazil will spend billions more for the prestige of hosting ICJ a World Event?

    Oh, right, you don't care. You won't be coming, as you already expect to lose.

    Jul 21st, 2014 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    ha ha / ho ho.

    Jul 21st, 2014 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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