President Cristina Fernandez assured that Argentina received the support from the group of BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) in its struggle against the holdout speculative funds, during the two summits held in Brazil, in Fortaleza and Brasilia. Read full article
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So BRICS have told CFK to feck off. No statements of support, no money, no help and no hope for Argentina.Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Not even an invitation to join the 'club'.
Apparently BRICS aren't as gullible as the Argentine public, and they're certainly not stupid enough to loan Argentina money given Argentina's record on paying loans back, so CFK has resorted to form and basically is lying about what has happened.
This can be added to her numerous other lies too...especially the one about the 'whole' world supporting Argentina when there is not ONE independent statement from ANY country that states that. Not even her precious C24 ever puts out official statements of support, and none of their 'recommendations' ever get past the 4th committee.
So it looks more and more like Argentina is isolated, not only from reality, but from the world.
So CFK's trip to Brazil was purely self-indulgent and to make her feel important by being allowed to visit the club that is BRICS. No loans from any country that 'supports' Argentina, not even their South American brothers. What a waste of time and money.Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Kicillof should have been in NYC showing good faith and negotiating but maybe he didn't have the $125,000 mediation fee he has already run up because he can't man up and speak directly to the hold-outs representatives.
Seems that Mrs Kirchner thinks a change in the rules will benefit Brazil as much as Argentina. Is Brazil about to default as well?Jul 17th, 2014 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Where's the document?Jul 17th, 2014 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Narnia, along with all the other bullshit I expect. Remember now children, the whole world supports them.... As does my pet Griffin, and she is prepared to lend Cristina $10 billion and her left kidney.
I bet you're more willing to believe my Griffin is female and a kidney donor than Cristina will sort out the economy. ..
How does she think she can get away with this stuff? Are people in Argentina so ill-informed that don't notice?
Even if they support Argentina what difference does it make?Jul 17th, 2014 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
These K's are a special kind of stupid.
Wheres Think? Has he died? Whats his take on the looming Argentinian Armargeddon? Think (or even a sock puppet) where are you? Will the Chinese buy Argentina? Or, is it the next Venezuala? The silence of the trolls… ?Jul 17th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@5Jul 17th, 2014 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
special kind of stupid hahahahah!
The silence of the trolls… ? hahaaha
you guys are killing me!
but where’s the document?Jul 17th, 2014 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I can only think of the world's most often used lie, told to every credit controller asking for payment of an overdue invoice:
IT'S IN THE POST.
HA, HA, HA.
Didn't KFC say Argentina has been invited to join BRICS sometime ago, or am I mistaken?Jul 17th, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
support? you all forgot her brain accident.Jul 17th, 2014 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
she was dreaming this story - as many others.
Dear MercoPress editors:Jul 17th, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
according to the Argentine President and Where's the document? Please if you have really attended the last BRICS 2014 Summit you should have not covered the closing statement of Leader Dilma Rousseff up! Here the original version http://www.opovo.com.br/app/economia/ae/2014/07/16/noticiaseconomiaae,3283262/argentina-recebe-apoio-em-reuniao-do-brics.shtml you can find up the english translation at the Brazilian's Ministry of Foreing Affairs!
Thank you for that 11.Jul 17th, 2014 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Aside, the support for Argentinas position continues to grow.
If Singers strategy was to use world opinion and world response as leverage he may be about to lose. Whats the back up plan when the entire political world frowns on his shifty vulture tactics. In the same way the IMF do today.
Brazil*,Russia, China and G77, 100 British Mp's, France Mercosur*, Sela, Oas are on Argentinas side so far.
Who will side with Argentina next ?
Has Singer gained any political allies so far ?
Whats going to happen when the world effectively tells Singer 'ok whatever stfu'.
click.... click click click.... click click click click - oops no bullets.
What does Singer need political allies for ?? He has no monkeys to entertain with bread, smoke and circus like CFK...Jul 17th, 2014 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
He just needs the US law on his side.
If Singers strategy was to use world opinion and world response as leverage he may be about to lose
Hmmm try to change in that sentence the word Singers for CFK's.
The President of Uruguay, José Mujica, proved reticent about the start of operations of the bank of the BRICs. Banks are a cow eating much even begin to give milk. Maybe in 2016, 2017 has anything but good.Jul 17th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
When asked if the new financial institution would be an alternative to the World Bank, said Mujica consider the performance of two complementary institutions. On the restructuring of Argentina's debt, he said that we need to create another mechanism to address the issue. They want to eat a piece of a dead cow, he said, adding that he knew by heart the speech that Cristina Kirchner did in meeting today. I heard three or four times.
Got quite a sense of humour Mr Mujica - dead, you wish.
Only three or four times - how does he remain so isolated....
We must achieve a just solution - The Chinese Ambassador to Argentina Yin Hengmin, yesterday endorsed the position of the national government in the conflict with the vulture funds. We understand that Argentina made many efforts to pay off your debt and believe that we must avoid measures that hinder the country's development, he said. He added that negotiations must move forward in a fair deal for all bondholders. We have to support negotiations for achieving a just solution, he said. The diplomat also expressed China's support on other fronts of international tension Argentina.Jul 17th, 2014 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
For many years now formally support the claim over the Falkland Islands and no change in this regard. Argentina and China have maintained close and excellent strategic collaboration momentous issues of international and regional politics, together safeguarding the common interests of economy developing, said Yin Hengmin. The president of the largest trading power in the world, Xi Xinping, the country arrive tomorrow on a visit that will last until July 20. The country can become a major financial backing Argentina to the implementation of infrastructure projects...'
Hey Putin...you are responsible for the deaths of almost 300 innocent people...Jul 17th, 2014 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
...because of your meddling....how do you feel...?
...and for what...a bit of land...
...hope you sleep well...
Pie in the sky?Jul 17th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
CFK says thisJul 17th, 2014 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
CFK says that
CFK says anything but the truth,
a deluded woman off her head.
@ 11 albinita who wrote: you can find up the english translation at the Brazilian's Ministry of Foreing Affairs!Jul 17th, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Where, oh, where?
Because the text from the link only says:
Em apoio à presidente argentina, Cristina Kirchner, Dilma fez um apelo aos demais presidentes por um caminho conjunto entre nós para mostrar que a decisão da Justiça dos EUA poderá ser muito dura para países em desenvolvimento e que as economias mais frágeis vão sofrer muito com procedimentos desse tipo.
... Cristina disse que ...
In support of Argentine President Cristina Kirchner, Dilma appealed to other presidents for a that we walk together” (are united) to show that the decision of the U.S. court may be very hard for developing countries and the weaker economies will suffer much with such procedures. ... Cristina said ...
Dilma APPEALED - nice of her.
may be very hard for developing countries and the weaker economies will suffer much with such procedures”
- but we know from the ruling of the United States Court of Appeal, that 99.6 percent of all new sovereign bonds issued under New York law since 2005 have a collective action clause, so there will be no more holdouts if a supermajority of bond holders accepts a restructuring of the original bonds.
Read and understand:
United States Court of Appeal's ruling, NML Capital, Ltd. v. Republic of Argentinahttp://www.shearman.com/~/media/Files/Old%20Site%20Files/secondcircuitdecision110512.pdf
@ 14 Trunce!Jul 17th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Doesn't matter how much a cow eats she will NEVER give milk unless the bull covers her and she drops a calf.
Mujica, as always, talks bollocks.
My farmer friend hates Mujica because of all the lies he tells about no poisons are used in the country.
Breaking newsJul 17th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Journalist Noah Sneider tweets: At crash site of #MH17. Bodies everywhere, organs splayed out. Too gruesome to post photographs. This is an absolute disaster. #ukraine
19:28: Flight recorders have been found at the crash site, Konstantin Knyrik, a spokesman for the pro-Russian rebels, has told Interfax news agency. Earlier reports quoted rebels as saying they intended to send the flight recorders to Moscow for checking.
...won't get the truth now....
This is a taste of the future..when the west follows a policy of appeasement with Russia.....NO ONE is safe...
23US Citizens also dead...4 French citizens....
That is in Argentine media already the black box is in pro Russian handsJul 17th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
RT carrying a story that Putins aircraft was in the area 40 minutes before, it is the same colour as the KLM/ MALAYSIAN AIRWAYS aircraft, this could have been an attempt to assassinate him.Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
They put this to aviation experts who basically tried not to laugh at the claim., pointing out that forty minutes at 33.000 feet is a long time and that radar does not see colours!!!!!
19 DonJul 17th, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Thx, I couldn't find the translation either.
Sad news re: MH17Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Tricky times for the Argentine FO: fingers crossed its the Ukrainian Military. If so, then its a wicked irresponsible act; if its a Russian supplied missle or worse, then a shoe gazy, stay stumph response is required - In ya box Timerman.
25 - hey an opportunity to poke at the Argies. Tragedy shmagedy.Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
23.Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
For starters, I doubt the Russian defense ministry with the clear knowledge of the events of the ground in Eastern Ukraine and the capabilities of the Ukrainian armed forces will risk sending over Putin as a lame duck over Ukrainian territory if that was the case.
Neither less to say the Russia would consider that an act of war and immediately and invade if their president was shot down. The Ukrainians would not be as stupid as that!
@26Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Poking fun? But Argentine foreign policy is based on The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend. The stinking hypocracy of Crimea, Chechnya, Tibet, Patagonia, blah blah blah etc, are irrelevant so long as the devil and his wife supports your silly claim.
Watch the lies and ridiculous nonsense come pouring out of the Russian propaganda machine....Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Can't even go on holiday without fear...
Let's see how Russia gets away with murder....
28Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
could you possibly give it just 1 day before you turn it into a political toy of sorts.
a bit of respect.
I shouldn't even have to say this.
29.Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I don’t think for a minute the rebels were following the Kremlin's orders when they fired at the aircraft, even if it is clear the pro Russians did it. The Russians must be furious with the militias at these hours.
They have bought themselves a clear PR defeat.
@30Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Well before you mince off in a huff, could you remind me exactly what is Argentina's view on the self determination referendum held in Crimea/Eastern Ukraine? Like most people I'm well confused.
31Jul 17th, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Exactly... there is no way Russia is directly involved they aren't that stupid...
..but it was probably Russian supplied hardware and time will tell if the attack came from the Russian side of the border, which has been implied...
Trouble for Putin either way...
Interesting that it is once again, a Malaysian jet.Jul 17th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Wasn't one of the conspiracy theories that the missing airliner was possibly headed towards the Crimea region?
What are the odds that there was ground chatter and some western spy network picked it up? Someone knows explicitly who is responsible for this.Jul 17th, 2014 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Odds...High PopsJul 17th, 2014 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The Wall St Journal tweets: Malaysia Airlines plane was hit by a surface-to-air missile, U.S. intelligence confirms.
20:27: BBC Monitoring reports more from the conversation between militants allegedly intercepted by the Ukrainian Security Service.
The conversation starts with Igor Bezler, a key militant, apparently telling a Russian security official by phone that the pro-Russian militants have shot down a plane.
20:23: The Ukrainian Security Service SBU has published on its Youtube account what it says are intercepted conversations between pro-Russian militants in which they say they admit shooting down a civilian plane, BBC Monitoring reports.
Rhetorical question.......they just acknowledged communication between a Russian major and a rebel literally saying we fucked up.Jul 17th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
They obviously took it for an AN-26. The rebels even bragged about it a couple of minutes before the MH17 crashed..Jul 18th, 2014 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The Pentagon says the Russians troops are back on the border; the question is I guess if Putin is willing to go that step to far.
It was the. Stealth Penguins according to La Casa Rosada. ...Jul 18th, 2014 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Mr Putin said: 'This tragedy would not have happened if there were peace on this land, if the military actions had not been renewed in south-east Ukraine. And, certainly, the state over whose territory this occurred bearsJul 18th, 2014 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
responsibility for this awful tragedy.'
Dangerous times with Putin becoming more and more like Hitler.Jul 18th, 2014 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Would imagine the West will now seek to impose heavy duty sanctions leading up to a Western boycott of the World Cup in 4 years time.
Look's like a Soviet-era Buk SAM is the likely culprit. Giving SAM's to ultra-macho Russian separatists is like giving a three yr old matches and a jerry can. It's never going to end well. Lots of Aussies were on that plane, there is already talk about rescinding Putin's G20 invitation.Jul 18th, 2014 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
23 Amwricans too, I hear.Jul 18th, 2014 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
And Putin says that it is the responsibility of Kiev government that created the unrest...
Who cares what other countries support pathetic Argentina even if it's the whole universe, PAY YOUR F8C*IN DEBTS! and in the mean time leave the Falklands Alone.Jul 18th, 2014 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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@45Jul 18th, 2014 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
吻我的屁股....我可以使用翻译也Jul 18th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Wěn wǒ de pìgu.... Wǒ kěyǐ shǐyòng fānyì yě
Titti boi tobi is back with a new persona........poor kid.
@47Jul 18th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Can't win a debate - time to change name.
The poor bloke will do anything to troll.
在47, 48Jul 18th, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Your west person talk very dark of light. I never at here debated. I am new person, also new opinion. I for you give my opinion, that west persons act too much outside west person countrys. This makes big problems for whole world. Western governments all must Spanish American, also China, Russia you not welcome.
Come back when you get your crazy cousin.....DPNK in the basement and under control.Jul 18th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Nice try titti boi.....pass the ....poo fwi wice!
@49Jul 18th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Your not welcome either now F**K OFF
BRICS become with 阿根廷 Argentina one stand army, China lead help pay Argentina. West person country no more affect BRICS today and tomorrow, we together we are one.Jul 18th, 2014 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I guess it's fair to say the terra cotta army never threw anybody out of a helicopter.Jul 18th, 2014 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Russia, China, Argentina are so because west person country not understand. We don't wish rule from west person country. West country wicked, also lie! So then, the more west country want win control BRICS, more BRICS flow wind against west country, not act like west person country!Jul 18th, 2014 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@54Jul 19th, 2014 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Tobi, if you were really Chinese, you'd be much more bothered by the East and the North than the West.
Tobi is who?Jul 19th, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
So then, you say East, North country's bother bigger to me than west country. But to Argentina person West country's bother bigger. So then you say they have right to big bother feeling? Good.
@54 鼻孔Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
鼻孔 (Nostril );
Why would you post using the Chinese translation of your revolting nickname, and then @49
you say you have never posted here before???
I never at here debated. I am new person, also new opinion.
I don't blame you, Nostrils.
If I were a conscientious Argentine citizen, I would be mortified that my State-controlled football team wantonly politicised a prominent international sporting event - and then LOST !!!
Probably with the deceit /disrespect shown by your politicos in NYC, and the humiliation of a looming National default,
you realised we were right all along and you can't face the embarrassment !
no job for Mummy
no future for 鼻孔
What? You know Chinese culture?Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Chinese names are infinite number. We can use all character all meanings for name. It is surname we may not change. You get wrong idea.
This is how you are going to spend your winter break? Pantomiming Think's Engrish?Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
What a sad little lonely guy.
Maybe you should take a bus to Bolivia and see if you can get a job.
58 鼻孔Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
What? You know Chinese culture?
Chinese names are infinite number. We can use all character all meanings for name. It is surname we may not change. You get wrong idea.
No, YOU get wrong idea - we not fooled by your silly Pidgin Engrish.
Maybe, you get job - help your Mummy!
You know BCRA is completely out of money when it now takes up to 9 MONTHS to get paid for your exports!!Jul 19th, 2014 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
And this is the time of year they're supposed to have excess funds!
#58. Of the 149 chinese dialects. What is yours? Cantonese.....no....mandarin right?Jul 19th, 2014 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
amazing how this 'chinese' troll suddenly pops up from nowhere spouting anti-western stuff? Hope the Chinese gov. doesn't catch him and shut him down as the Chinese gov is very keen on good relations with the West.Jul 19th, 2014 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
It's all obvious bullshit tho. Silly Argie troll. Never enough to debate, always hiding behind name changing. Just like Aussiesunshine/Keith York and mendo-whatever, jsut sock-puppets.
Anyone heard from Stevie or Tobi recently? no, thought not. How odd!
Anyways, more importantly, anyone seen this supporting document yet?
在57Jul 19th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I not understand. My name, is honor to the great 孔子. My father, mother choose 孔 honor to him, 鼻 because they both wish I may have in future half wisdom of Kong's nose.
I speak Po wen but forget. School mandarin.
@64Jul 19th, 2014 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Tobi, your fantasy parents must have been confused about King Kong's anatomy.
Is it really Suzy in another disguise..lolJul 19th, 2014 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
64 Nostril,Jul 19th, 2014 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Are you burying your head in the sand to forget the humiliation of your loss to Germany, the superior European state that trounced all South American opposition, and smashed your team with a spectacular winning goal?
It doesn't help that Messi the egotist botched the free kick when he insisted on doing it, instead of someone better.
Perhaps, you can no longer appear as Toby or Nostril identities because you would have to admit YB and Brits and Europeans were all correct about your Default and Economic collapse??
Help your Mummy. She is tired and has a lazy, ungrateful son.
@59 YBJul 19th, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Get on the bus to Bolivia, better chance of a job there!
Is it Tobi/nostrils or even Stevie? Haha!
Never has a troll been so exposed, so quickly, by so few!
@67Jul 20th, 2014 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
You seem like a thoughtful poster, and one the side of the right of the British Falkland Islands to self-determination in front of Argentine aggression, but I have to call you out on something, because you have repeatedly made the same statements here and as fair is fair one must be objective.
You are trolling the argentine posters here about the World Cup final?? Seriously? Why would you do that?
More basically, how can you in all good conscience. Yes, the argentines lost the final, but they were in the final. As the statistics prove, that is very hard to achieve, hence the list of nations capable of getting there is countable within the digits of our hands. And they were not humiliated, they simply lost 1-0 to a better, mature team 12 years in the making.
Further Argentina actually trounced almost half of UEFA out of the tournament to get to the final. Finally, I have a hunch that your national team either has never even reached a final, or have not reached one in this century or the better part of the last one.
So lets be serious here, I'm sure one can find other areas to troll the argentines or legitimately criticize them, but World Cup performance is not one of them.
64. Yuo engrish is phuny.....you make poh fwied wice in menodoza?Jul 20th, 2014 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Practice your round mouth po wen tobi....because the chin will own you little ass.
In Newport yb and chin tourist are everywhere this weekend and are obnoxious people.
69 RobJul 20th, 2014 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You are quite right, Rob.
In fact, I agree with you fully.
The Argentine team did very well to be in the final and they played very well against a strong German team. Apart from a few dirty plays, common enough in matches today, they played a skilful game and are obviously high calibre - they deserved to be there.
If you go back, you will see that I did commend them for a good game.
However, I did take exception to one of the Argentine posters criticising us for politicising the game and showing poor attitude towards a sporting event.
It was pointed out to him that although he professes to be sports fan and respects a good game, there was no recognition from any of the Argentine posters, that Germany had played a good game. Sullen silence was the rule.
Furthermore, it was the Argentinian team that politicised the game with their offensive banner about the Malvinas.
No childish prank, 1,000 people were killed because of a military invasion to seize a foreign territory and kill or expel the inhabitants.
Recently, a vicious propaganda war and economic blockade initiated by the Argentine government, is trying to do the same thing.
The same Argentine poster, Paul Cedron, went on to insult the Falkland Islanders in his usual style as well as ridiculously insulting them for their lack of football standing in the WC.
As you are aware, being a football fan, the Falklands have nothing to do with it.
I want to take nothing away from the accomplishments of the Argentine team, but as far as using the WC as a political tool, that is out of bounds.
As for Paul Cedron, he's a hypocrit and an ass.
if he wishes to support the actions of his government and make insulting provocative remarks, while professing its in the name of sportsmanship and love of football, then I don't think it's out of order to poke him a bit with a sharp stick.
#64 tobi. How come either your argentine government or your new find chin government have not denounced the murdr of the downing of MH17? Afraid they will take the money back? Also where did all the chin business go when it was time to sign contracts?Jul 20th, 2014 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
How does it feel to be a beggar?