Four out of ten people in Argentina live in households where children suffer poverty conditions, according to the latest release from the Argentine Catholic University (UCA) Social Debt Barometer. Read full article
Funny, Singer hasn't made any money off this situation, yet. But my question would be how your President could own so many empty hotels, with cash flowing in in the form of payments from individuals and groups for rental of rooms to launder the money. Or how, in a country with these problems, Maximo Kirchner could be so fat. Or how Boudou could afford those awful perms...
Even you know that is a simply ridiculous conclusion to reach. Successive Argentine governments mis-management of the economy and blatant stealing from Argentines is the reason so many children live in abject poverty there. CFK should be heartily ashamed of waving her Rolex-encrusted wrist at the children that are her responsibility.
Since the Argentine government has not paid a penny to Singer, you cannot lay the blame at his feet. Look to your government.
1. What a ridiculous post. The amount of poverty in Argentina has no correlation to Singers wealth.
The centuries of corrupt governments are to blame.
CFK has become extremely wealth on the backs of the Rg peasants.
@ 1
Singer is not the one to be blamed for this; he´s simply trying to collect a debt that the very Argentinian gov issued. He did not decide how to use the money raised, nor whose pocket would get fatter.
This has being happening for YEARS, much specially in areas of the country where people are literally forced to vote the local Lord (corrupt governors) in exchange for an old mattress or a bag of groceries.
Curiously, those provinces are quite loyal to the Kirchner gov (see Santiago del Estero, Formosa, Chaco, Misiones, etc).
Nevertheless, our president keeps appointing her relatives and friends and ally in key offices where they make tons of money for doing nothing.
And let´s not forget her FI rant. Because once those islands get back to Argentina, all our troubles will be solved .... (*eyes roll*)
#1 What an absolutely absurd post to make. Do you actually believe that? Do you not think stopping imports, thus causing inflation and restricting businesses from expanding, not to mention kirchner's foolish policies keeping DFI out of Argentina have anything to do with this? Peronist need a poor and stupid population in order to retain power and they have done a marvelous job over the past 40 years.
Klingon............you live up to your name.
This is the result of all the lying and manipulating numbers. When they fake inflation and other statistics, manipulate the exchange rates, overprint currency etc. people will slip into poverty and the government can't acknowledge it without being exposed for their lies and deceits. Unfortunately that means that many of these people falling into poverty can't get any meaningful help since the Whacky leadership is not going to voluntarily admit to having sunk the whole country into a financial tar pit...
According to CFK and minions ONLY Argentina can declare their own default.
I think someone should try hitting her in the head again to see if that will knock her brains back into place.
:)
I would not be surprised if that kid shows up in some outrageous propaganda spot from the Whacky leadership about the Holdout funds or the Falkland Islands...
@11
Well no, you issued bonds, and Nestor Kirchner bilked the bondholders by refusing to pay the full amount, never mind the holdouts. Not only were the debts never repaid, the people of the country were also bilked by the corruption and nepotism of the members of the government, which as I alluded to, has been raking in the cash surreptitiously to the benefit of a small, quite despicable group of people, while the rest of a once developed and educated country spirals into despair. Some people have no shame...
Over 30% of Argentine children live in households below the poverty line? ... Malvinas XL ... The Vice-President has been caught stealing (again)? ... Malvinas XL ... The country is on the brink of default? ... Malvinas XL ... Campagnoli has proof that Cristina's business partner is involved in money laundering? ... Malvinas XL ...
MALVINAS XL: Oh, good! This lady feels like herself again, now that she's taking MALVINAS XL. When she was depressed, she was somebody else—the kind of non-person who doesn't like standing on verandas or rowing a boat around a very small silty pond.
Also, I don't know if you heard, but MALVINAS XL HAS A LOW RISK OF SEXUAL SIDE EFFECTS. Did we mention MALVINAS has a low risk of sexual side effects?
Why west country not wish sorry to Chinese person for drug war back in 1839 year? Also not wish sorry for Boxer rebellion 8 west country become together attack China! Please you wish sorry!
Just think of what the real poverty numbers will be after they are restated for the last decade.
Every generation gets poorer and dumber in the Idiocracy of Argentina.
@19 No wish sorry. Chinese person no wish sorry for Tibet. During Great Leap Forward between 200,000 and 1,000,000 Tibetans die. Chinese person no wish sorry. During the Cultural Revolution 6,000 monasteries destroyed. Chinese person no wish sorry. Tiananmen Square protests 1989 (六四事件) thousands of unarmed students die. Chinese person no wish sorry. Please YOU wish sorry!
Wow, did nosegay get a job at a Chinese supermarket? Probably a good thing for him, maybe he can start stocking up on sugar and flour now. He's gonna need it. Oh yeah, toilet paper too...
@1. I'm also glad. Looking back over the years, had argieland actually negotiated honestly with its bondholders, the situation might never have arisen. The original bondholders might have retained their bonds and been satisfied with 60% or thereabouts. Instead, Kirchner (deceased) decided to act criminally. Argie poverty is solely down to the Kirchners and their cronies. Let's examine the assets of all members of the argie government. Seize everything over 500,000 pesos. Inform all banks that they must declare all argie assets, or they will be identified as complicit money launderers. Do I care about the argie poor? I do not. Let 'em suffer. The more argies that suffer, the better.
@19. What are you gabbling about? Who wanted opium? Chinks. Nobody forced them. The Boxer Rebellion? Imperial-backed, drug-fuelled nationalist attempt at suicide. Get over it! Hang on. Sounds a bit like argieland. Is that you, Nostroll, pretending to be a foreign arsehole instead of an argie fart?
What exactly do you Think to gain? See how quickly you are identified? Here's a thought. After every one of your new” names, why don't you include (Faggot) at the end. Then you can talk to yourself, agree with yourself and quit wasting peoples' time.
On the grounds of the Universidad Nacional de Cujo there are people living in tin and paper shacks. Have been there ever since I have been here...8 years. The place is disgusting. And cfk goes on and on about all the wonderful things she does...this government is a disgrace.
It is always the innocent that suffer in a dictators world.
The ones I have the most sympathy for Is the future generations as yet unborn. They are going to be born in Argentina straight into poverty,
Their leaders probably will still be the hard liners of the regime that exists today and they will be subject to first brain washing and then encouraged hatred for any Country that is doing better than they will be able to do so.
The Falklands will be drummed into their minds as a place that was stolen from their (forefathers which of course is a lie) and these yet unborn will become the new dictators of a failed Country.
That is in itself criminal but we all know that Argentina will as they are doing right now get away with it because most of the world tend to turn a blind eye to corruption unless it is happening on their own doorstep.
China must still have their blinkers on . Have they learned nothing about Argentina's world wide debt issues. They are likely never to get their money back. Maybe they have an alternative plan that is seize the Argentine Country as their default in years to come. You never know it might actually be their thinking.
32. Its not the worlds responsibility to control corruption within a country. It is the people's responsibility to elect good and honest politicians. If they are bribed, coerced or too stupid to do that it is their own fault.
On the Chinese loan, this loan is to pay for Chinese goods, a dam they are going to build and trains they are going to supply. I am pretty sure its in Yuan so the Rgs can't abscond with it. I am sure the wealth will be shared between the RG pols and the Chinese technocrats. That's a given. That's also why things cost 6-8X to build in Argentina than in the USA. IF they ever get built.
So the chinese are loaning the Rgs money at 8%+ to buy their overpriced crappy products. Its a no-brainer. They can't get that rate/terms any place else in the world.
And the gov't and people praise it.
Idiocracy of Argentina
If you cannot afford children why have them? It seems the problem in most countries UK included. The state pay for childcare so the parents can go to work.
Well now that the Chin is on their way in, they certainly know what to do with poor children. Perhaps in the coming years we will see in the news notes in products that the Chinese businesses will have setup in Argentina (slave labor camps for the poor) from Argentines begging for help.
help.....I am forced to work 20 hours a day for no wage
The Chinese are not stupid they know when something is rife for easy pickings. What's to bet they are gambling on taking over Argentina as their own Country Remember they too are at differences with Japan.
Did not someone say on here that it is possible China was the first to discover the Falklands even before Columbus. So seems they are no different to Argentina so it is logical they team up.
Wont make a difference to us because we are staying put doing what we unanimously chose to do. Stay British.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI am glad Singer can sleep well in his mansion knowing he makes his extreme wealth off these same people.
Jul 18th, 2014 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny, Singer hasn't made any money off this situation, yet. But my question would be how your President could own so many empty hotels, with cash flowing in in the form of payments from individuals and groups for rental of rooms to launder the money. Or how, in a country with these problems, Maximo Kirchner could be so fat. Or how Boudou could afford those awful perms...
Jul 18th, 2014 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the award for Most Tenuous Link goes to @1
Jul 18th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even you know that is a simply ridiculous conclusion to reach. Successive Argentine governments mis-management of the economy and blatant stealing from Argentines is the reason so many children live in abject poverty there. CFK should be heartily ashamed of waving her Rolex-encrusted wrist at the children that are her responsibility.
Since the Argentine government has not paid a penny to Singer, you cannot lay the blame at his feet. Look to your government.
1. What a ridiculous post. The amount of poverty in Argentina has no correlation to Singers wealth.
Jul 18th, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The centuries of corrupt governments are to blame.
CFK has become extremely wealth on the backs of the Rg peasants.
@ 1
Jul 18th, 2014 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Singer is not the one to be blamed for this; he´s simply trying to collect a debt that the very Argentinian gov issued. He did not decide how to use the money raised, nor whose pocket would get fatter.
This has being happening for YEARS, much specially in areas of the country where people are literally forced to vote the local Lord (corrupt governors) in exchange for an old mattress or a bag of groceries.
Curiously, those provinces are quite loyal to the Kirchner gov (see Santiago del Estero, Formosa, Chaco, Misiones, etc).
Nevertheless, our president keeps appointing her relatives and friends and ally in key offices where they make tons of money for doing nothing.
And let´s not forget her FI rant. Because once those islands get back to Argentina, all our troubles will be solved .... (*eyes roll*)
Maybe the starving peasants should storm the gates of Fat Max's compound. See how much food he's got stored in there.
Jul 18th, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#1 What an absolutely absurd post to make. Do you actually believe that? Do you not think stopping imports, thus causing inflation and restricting businesses from expanding, not to mention kirchner's foolish policies keeping DFI out of Argentina have anything to do with this? Peronist need a poor and stupid population in order to retain power and they have done a marvelous job over the past 40 years.
Jul 18th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Klingon............you live up to your name.
Poor kids, born in a lousy country that has so much promise but is run by corrupt morons. Stolen childhoods..
Jul 18th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is the result of all the lying and manipulating numbers. When they fake inflation and other statistics, manipulate the exchange rates, overprint currency etc. people will slip into poverty and the government can't acknowledge it without being exposed for their lies and deceits. Unfortunately that means that many of these people falling into poverty can't get any meaningful help since the Whacky leadership is not going to voluntarily admit to having sunk the whole country into a financial tar pit...
Jul 18th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 032% of households don't have access to the sewage system
Jul 18th, 2014 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would expect that in Bolivia, but not in Argentina.
According to CFK and minions ONLY Argentina can declare their own default.
Jul 18th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think someone should try hitting her in the head again to see if that will knock her brains back into place.
:)
I wonder whether the new grandchild of la Kretina is one of these unfortunates? Of course not! Silly me!
Jul 18th, 2014 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12
Jul 18th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would not be surprised if that kid shows up in some outrageous propaganda spot from the Whacky leadership about the Holdout funds or the Falkland Islands...
@13
Jul 18th, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably being groomed to be Governor of the FALKLANDS LMAO
@11
Jul 18th, 2014 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could it be.
We were paying our debts, and willing to pay those debts, but an injustice is preventing us from doing so.
Signed
Victims-aЯg-Us ©
@11
Jul 18th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well no, you issued bonds, and Nestor Kirchner bilked the bondholders by refusing to pay the full amount, never mind the holdouts. Not only were the debts never repaid, the people of the country were also bilked by the corruption and nepotism of the members of the government, which as I alluded to, has been raking in the cash surreptitiously to the benefit of a small, quite despicable group of people, while the rest of a once developed and educated country spirals into despair. Some people have no shame...
back in the real world , the Islanders are florishing :)
Jul 18th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Over 30% of Argentine children live in households below the poverty line? ... Malvinas XL ... The Vice-President has been caught stealing (again)? ... Malvinas XL ... The country is on the brink of default? ... Malvinas XL ... Campagnoli has proof that Cristina's business partner is involved in money laundering? ... Malvinas XL ...
Jul 18th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MALVINAS XL: Oh, good! This lady feels like herself again, now that she's taking MALVINAS XL. When she was depressed, she was somebody else—the kind of non-person who doesn't like standing on verandas or rowing a boat around a very small silty pond.
Also, I don't know if you heard, but MALVINAS XL HAS A LOW RISK OF SEXUAL SIDE EFFECTS. Did we mention MALVINAS has a low risk of sexual side effects?
@18
Jul 18th, 2014 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why west country not wish sorry to Chinese person for drug war back in 1839 year? Also not wish sorry for Boxer rebellion 8 west country become together attack China! Please you wish sorry!
Just think of what the real poverty numbers will be after they are restated for the last decade.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Every generation gets poorer and dumber in the Idiocracy of Argentina.
19 鼻孔
Jul 19th, 2014 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hi Nostril-boy !!
You not Chine-ee
Bah- ha ha ha ha ha ha... ... !!!
Mo po fwi wice pwease. Okie dokie tobi?
Jul 19th, 2014 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 No wish sorry. Chinese person no wish sorry for Tibet. During Great Leap Forward between 200,000 and 1,000,000 Tibetans die. Chinese person no wish sorry. During the Cultural Revolution 6,000 monasteries destroyed. Chinese person no wish sorry. Tiananmen Square protests 1989 (六四事件) thousands of unarmed students die. Chinese person no wish sorry. Please YOU wish sorry!
Jul 19th, 2014 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, did nosegay get a job at a Chinese supermarket? Probably a good thing for him, maybe he can start stocking up on sugar and flour now. He's gonna need it. Oh yeah, toilet paper too...
Jul 19th, 2014 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrils - the Last Emperor of his house - he is actually powerless, the power is behind the throne - his Mummy.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 05:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0She should put him to work, on the street corner, telling fortunes and making fanciful prophecies for money.
@25
Jul 19th, 2014 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol at the Pu Yi reference.
@19
Jul 19th, 2014 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least somebody in Argenteena has managed a Great Leap Forward from 1833 to 1839.
@1. I'm also glad. Looking back over the years, had argieland actually negotiated honestly with its bondholders, the situation might never have arisen. The original bondholders might have retained their bonds and been satisfied with 60% or thereabouts. Instead, Kirchner (deceased) decided to act criminally. Argie poverty is solely down to the Kirchners and their cronies. Let's examine the assets of all members of the argie government. Seize everything over 500,000 pesos. Inform all banks that they must declare all argie assets, or they will be identified as complicit money launderers. Do I care about the argie poor? I do not. Let 'em suffer. The more argies that suffer, the better.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19. What are you gabbling about? Who wanted opium? Chinks. Nobody forced them. The Boxer Rebellion? Imperial-backed, drug-fuelled nationalist attempt at suicide. Get over it! Hang on. Sounds a bit like argieland. Is that you, Nostroll, pretending to be a foreign arsehole instead of an argie fart?
What exactly do you Think to gain? See how quickly you are identified? Here's a thought. After every one of your new” names, why don't you include (Faggot) at the end. Then you can talk to yourself, agree with yourself and quit wasting peoples' time.
Like all 'poor' all they do is wait for handouts, smoke their heads of, get drunk and shag themselves silly.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least that's what they do in Uruguay: no thought of working hard at school or getting themselves a job on the back of their schooling.
You get what you work for in this world, nobody owes anybody else a living.
30%? It will soon be 80 - 85% the way things are going because of TMBOA.
Start by topping her and the rest of the crooks.
30% in poverty is a disgusting state of affairs. The government should be ashamed of themselves.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the grounds of the Universidad Nacional de Cujo there are people living in tin and paper shacks. Have been there ever since I have been here...8 years. The place is disgusting. And cfk goes on and on about all the wonderful things she does...this government is a disgrace.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is always the innocent that suffer in a dictators world.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ones I have the most sympathy for Is the future generations as yet unborn. They are going to be born in Argentina straight into poverty,
Their leaders probably will still be the hard liners of the regime that exists today and they will be subject to first brain washing and then encouraged hatred for any Country that is doing better than they will be able to do so.
The Falklands will be drummed into their minds as a place that was stolen from their (forefathers which of course is a lie) and these yet unborn will become the new dictators of a failed Country.
That is in itself criminal but we all know that Argentina will as they are doing right now get away with it because most of the world tend to turn a blind eye to corruption unless it is happening on their own doorstep.
China must still have their blinkers on . Have they learned nothing about Argentina's world wide debt issues. They are likely never to get their money back. Maybe they have an alternative plan that is seize the Argentine Country as their default in years to come. You never know it might actually be their thinking.
32. Its not the worlds responsibility to control corruption within a country. It is the people's responsibility to elect good and honest politicians. If they are bribed, coerced or too stupid to do that it is their own fault.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the Chinese loan, this loan is to pay for Chinese goods, a dam they are going to build and trains they are going to supply. I am pretty sure its in Yuan so the Rgs can't abscond with it. I am sure the wealth will be shared between the RG pols and the Chinese technocrats. That's a given. That's also why things cost 6-8X to build in Argentina than in the USA. IF they ever get built.
So the chinese are loaning the Rgs money at 8%+ to buy their overpriced crappy products. Its a no-brainer. They can't get that rate/terms any place else in the world.
And the gov't and people praise it.
Idiocracy of Argentina
If you cannot afford children why have them? It seems the problem in most countries UK included. The state pay for childcare so the parents can go to work.
Jul 19th, 2014 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0was it not all you argies, bar none, that was condemning the UKs poverty last week,
Jul 19th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lolol. brain washed comes to mind..
19 Nostrils
Jul 19th, 2014 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you one of these children yet?
Once Mummy loses her job, you lose your house, the government cannot afford anymore handouts, the soy goes unharvested,
by then you will be poor.
Your mother will die of a broken heart and overwork, but you will grieve alone, as you will have no Internet.
China has a solution:
鼻孔,你是一个自私,懒惰的儿子。找到一份工作,并帮助你的母亲。你是寄生虫
funny
Jul 19th, 2014 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well now that the Chin is on their way in, they certainly know what to do with poor children. Perhaps in the coming years we will see in the news notes in products that the Chinese businesses will have setup in Argentina (slave labor camps for the poor) from Argentines begging for help.
Jul 21st, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0help.....I am forced to work 20 hours a day for no wage
Quiet, you are fed and you have a room to sleep in.
Jul 21st, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No. Just what will NOT be labelled on the pet food. ..
Jul 21st, 2014 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's the future for the 30% poor.
that's their future. Anonymous pet food protein.
All so that Cristina's Klan could trouser a few $$
'30%? It will soon be 80 - 85% the way things are going because of TMBOA.' Chris.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, if you attribute First World definitions of 'poverty', the figure will be already 80 - 85%
Please note
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voice forgets to change his User Account and answers as Think
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/07/19/china-extends-a-financial-hand-to-dollar-and-credit-strapped-argentina?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=aviso_comentarios#comments
@ posts 159 and 160
The Chinese are not stupid they know when something is rife for easy pickings. What's to bet they are gambling on taking over Argentina as their own Country Remember they too are at differences with Japan.
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did not someone say on here that it is possible China was the first to discover the Falklands even before Columbus. So seems they are no different to Argentina so it is logical they team up.
Wont make a difference to us because we are staying put doing what we unanimously chose to do. Stay British.
@ 43 kelperabout
Jul 22nd, 2014 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did not someone say on here that it is possible China was the first to discover the Falklands even before Columbus.
I would very much like to see the evidence of that. The Chin had nothing but semi-local vessels until quite late.
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