FIFA has fined the Argentine Football Association 30,000 Swiss francs (£19,540) as punishment for the displaying of a provocative banner relating to the Falkland Islands. Read full article
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@4
It's just the truth to you and your circle of dictatorships, to the rest of the world it's a nonsense, hence your fine.
Enjoy your default, you truly deserve it
@8
Yes it was a bit pathetic, still it's the thought that counts.
Anyway, have a read of this story, it's very interesting. Those clever people at BAE are attaching their shiny new Brimstone missile to our Eurofighter Typhoons :-)
@4
you really don't understand. do you?
The people of Argentina, (you), pay this.
Another peso from your pocket has gone. Just because Cristina is selling you a fantasy.
Wake up!
And what would benefit of not being backward? To foreigner, not being backward is saying always yes to EU, US, even China.
If Argentina say yes always, then to you they no longer backward correct not correct? But they then become completely subjugate country with no self-dignity, because they just say yes and not stand up for any thing.
@22
You made a choice? You are joking of course, you could not raise any money in the US,EU because you do not pay back. The only way to borrow money is to go to Russia or China and I hear they are not doing so well. Good bedfellows for you , I sincerely wish you the best of luck.We do not not need anything from Argentina as anything we want is made in the US or EU. By the way the UK has investested in a rail line under London that will open in 2018 and costs 15billion sterling, thats investment.
Steady on! Certainly not hate, just sarcastic pity.
You can chest beat and proclaim all you want, but until you sort out your banana politics, banana institutions and immaturity, your country will never be taken seriously. I'm just stating what most decent Argentines know. Alas your nation is stuck in a Peronist stasis, repeating the same mistakes, over and over again....
The level of the fine doesn't matter. The important message is that the action was wholly inappropriate. Argentine people should be more forceful with their Government. Looks like they will let them get away with anything they like.
l fully agree, the malvinas(wherever they are & whatever they could possibly be), probably are Argentine.
We'll keep the Falklands, thank you so much.
And NO, José, you or Argentina can't have them.
lf you find these mythical malvinas, José, be sure to let us know what they are, won't you?
Maybe a type of bird or insect?
Yes it is sadly, and it has been going on for many decades.
For years I used to see Argentinians in the streets, in Rio and Sampa traffic, subsisting here on what would diplomatically be described as handouts, day by day. Up until 1982, it was hard for many of us to understand why Europeans would have to do this if they were so well off, in our country.
When the Galtieri Junta was in power, it was understandable, as many were fleeing incarceration and death literally. Now, under the Kirchner dynasty, it not only continues, but has massively increased.
Is it true that tens of thousands of Argentine football fans have stayed in Brazil? They think life is better there apparently.
Im only linking to this particular paper as its non-british.
Although Brazil's once-gangbuster economy has slowed in recent years, the situation is far better than that in crisis-wracked Argentina, which has a shortage of dollars and one of the world's highest inflation rates.
And England won the world cup this year with a hat trick from goalie Joe Hart.
”A statement from FIFA said the AFA had been fined and issued with a reprimand after it was deemed to be in breach of Article 60 of the FIFA stadium safety and security regulations ('political action') and Article 52 of the FIFA disciplinary code ('team misconduct').”
This is probably rated as good news in Argentina and a 'success.'
The fine is a waste of time, Argentina will not pay up but what's the betting that according to them -it will be' paid in 25 years time'.
And next year it will still be ' paid in 25 years time.'
For old times sake and just for you José Malvinero, I'll log in and ask this 164 year old question. Can you explain the 1850 Convention of Settlement and why it does not include Tha Falkland Islands?
Christina says that the Argentine people have be yearning for 'their' islands since 1833, but where was this 'yearning' when this treaty was signed?
As the translation oft quoted Mal Vinas, or Sour Grapes. In which case, here is your perfect website. Enjoy. http://www.elmalvinense.com/
for 1881 (Patagonia abuse), for 1891 (Baltimore incident), for 1965 (Teniente Merino/Laguna del Desierto incident), Beagle Conflict 1978 and for 1977 till 1984 (Operation Soberania):
@49
It's the principle, people are not impressed with argentine constant whinging and making political statements at sporting events. If they are not prepared to fight us for them or take us to court, then STFU and stop crying, it's so childish.
It's far greater that the Argentinian politician came over to the Falklands recently, only to go home to not the best of receptions. I take my hat off to him for doing that rather than concocted political events such as this banner.
I'm all for the people living their choosing their own path, but things move on. So we should still all wish a better path for the Falklands.
The comments today remind me of Northern Ireland 30 years back. Being 46 I remember those times and the Falklands war.
Time to move on, see what's the best plot to do. Israel and Palestine just show what failure to do so means to everyone.
And no, I am not saying give the Falklands to the Argentinians, but I am saying politicians and people need to be clever and have opens minds.
Was very proud to see how cared for the Argentinian war cemetery looked recently. People at heart are people. Decent folk, that's worth more than ideals.
Once I retire I would love to visit Ascension, St Helena and the Falklands. And I will do so.
Andy, 51... you sound like a nice pal, but it looks like you don't know Argentinian mentality, and therefore I must say your thoughts are being somewhat naive. Discuss... discuss what? There is nothing to discuss, and discussing just means unreal ilusions to the argentinian aspirations.
There aren't many open options here, it's easy:
1. Keep them British
2. let the FI People decide if the want to stay British, become Argentinian or become Independent.
3. Force them to become Argentinian (ignoring the will of the FI)
4. ?
Nr 2 has been made reality, and we all know that the Falklanders want to stay british and by no chance accept an Argentinian annexation (who could blame them!)
Nr 3 would be a violation of human rights, forcing the military forces of the UK to their duty to defend their people.
All points lead to the result of point 1. Everything else is time waste and Opium für das Volk, Argentinian mental m***urbation. Somwhat similar like the Bolivian Aspirations to gain a sovereign access the the ocean.
The Northern Ireland situation has not resulted in it's take over by Ireland.
So we should still all wish a better path for the Falklands.
Correct-and you don't exclude the inhabitants as though their views 'in the greater scheme of things' are irrelevant.
I agree it is a good thing that Cobos came over to the Falklands. However because he was more concerned with his image, than being practical and actually achieving something, he declined to talk to Penguin News. A bit short sighted as he could have conveyed his opinion to the Islanders or perhaps outlined a more practical approach by Argentina to the Islands if he becomes the nest president.
We don't need or want anything from Argentina and we coulddn't really care whether or not Argentina wants anything from us. In fact, most of us would be quite happy never to hear the name 'Argentina' again.
That relatively small sum of money could be a life changer for say, some homeless Argentinian.
What an irresponsible thing to have done, and invite the needless waste of public funds in that manner.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA drop in the ocean, they can afford it, not like they are broke is it? , oh wait a minute!!!!
Jul 25th, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Payable into Blatter's personal account of course.
Jul 25th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conspiracy. etc etc
Jul 25th, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know where they will find the money.
Any ridiculous fine for telling the truth??:
Jul 25th, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINE
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@4
Jul 25th, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's just the truth to you and your circle of dictatorships, to the rest of the world it's a nonsense, hence your fine.
Enjoy your default, you truly deserve it
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5f5ba3ca-132e-11e4-8244-00144feabdc0.html#axzz38WOSjnV7
See if someday play a final, ridiculous. Only in 1966 and arranged ...
Jul 25th, 2014 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Default tick tock!!
Jul 25th, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 030.000 swiss francs fine?
Jul 25th, 2014 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol
= no story
4th class newspaper
@4
Jul 25th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Translation of MALVINAS into English and every language of the world = BAD WINE or BAD VINES or SOUR GRAPES
Why do the Argentines dislike their grapes! What's wrong with them?
Correct translation into English and every other language of the world....
ARGENTINE SOUR GRAPES
ARGENTINE BAD VINES
ARGENTINE BAD WINES
30,000 Swiss Francs fine for advertising your SOUR GRAPES!
@8
Jul 25th, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes it was a bit pathetic, still it's the thought that counts.
Anyway, have a read of this story, it's very interesting. Those clever people at BAE are attaching their shiny new Brimstone missile to our Eurofighter Typhoons :-)
http://www.baesystems.com/article/BAES_167970/uk-study-contract-awarded-to-integrate-brimstone-2-onto-typhoon;baeSessionId=NqKwTSpYhlrzKz5L1yrTmHvJhJgtwtszpYFgyXQJslwFrL0WKvvz!540445179?_afrLoop=148375981617000&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=null#%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dnull%26_afrLoop%3D148375981617000%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3D18tcfeed0u_4
Pretty expensive advert!
Jul 25th, 2014 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Josey…. Bahahahaha
Silly buggers, serves them right. But I wonder if FIFA will be able to collect?
Jul 25th, 2014 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 010
Jul 25th, 2014 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BAE?
british aerospace??
lol
they are not the most trustable, are they?
as i already said, british + technology = monkey + machinegun
http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/bae-systems-fined-for-fatal-blast-1-2024544
http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/bae-systems-fined-for-fatal-blast-1-2024544
http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/bae-systems-fined-for-fatal-blast-1-2024544
British + Machine gun = 900+ Dead monkeys
Jul 26th, 2014 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentinians appear to be extremely childish.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0you really don't understand. do you?
The people of Argentina, (you), pay this.
Another peso from your pocket has gone. Just because Cristina is selling you a fantasy.
Wake up!
I use telephone cabine today talk to Argentine today. He say Argentina person rather die than live under EU, US.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0EU, US want to take all away Argentina.
Rules are rules, including those of FIFA. They knew what they were doing, took that step, and broke the rules.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suspect our recalcitrant Argentine neighbours will default on that too.
Another fine example of why Argentina will remain a backward Country.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sad, but true.
And what would benefit of not being backward? To foreigner, not being backward is saying always yes to EU, US, even China.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina say yes always, then to you they no longer backward correct not correct? But they then become completely subjugate country with no self-dignity, because they just say yes and not stand up for any thing.
@20
Jul 26th, 2014 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please get some medication soon Trolley Boy.
This is just sad now. Just stop.
Why do you no answer my point? Point good no good?
Jul 26th, 2014 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina had no future with EU, US. Choose China, better future.
@22
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0You made a choice? You are joking of course, you could not raise any money in the US,EU because you do not pay back. The only way to borrow money is to go to Russia or China and I hear they are not doing so well. Good bedfellows for you , I sincerely wish you the best of luck.We do not not need anything from Argentina as anything we want is made in the US or EU. By the way the UK has investested in a rail line under London that will open in 2018 and costs 15billion sterling, thats investment.
Please don't stop what you're doing Argentina. You're the gift that keeps on giving when comes retarded comedy stunts like this.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems like a proportionate fine for the breach that was committed.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think Argentina miss EU with hateful people like golfcronie and FI_Frost. I think they say good ridings.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if they will ask for a stay until they can negotiate paying the fine under argentine law with bonds over 25 years...
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then attempt to renegotiate the fine, trying to wipe off 90% of it, Then start complaining when FIFA throws their case out of the hearing....
During all this state that they are willing to pay but mummy won't let them out because they haven't done their homework and it's near dinner time.
Python couldn't write better for the argentine government.
@22 hypocritical Hispanic racist by any other name is still a hypocritical Hispanic racist.
P.s your pseudonym isn't Chinese you berk so stop pretending your Kato from batfink anymore...
I agree with Jose, the banner was truthful, it just wasn't completely unfurled.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINE ..................MYTH, INVENTED TO BRAINWASHING THE STUPID IN ITS POPULATION LIKE FOOTBALLERS AND TROLLS.
If they had unrolled it properly there wouldn't have been a fine.
@26 Toby
Jul 26th, 2014 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Steady on! Certainly not hate, just sarcastic pity.
You can chest beat and proclaim all you want, but until you sort out your banana politics, banana institutions and immaturity, your country will never be taken seriously. I'm just stating what most decent Argentines know. Alas your nation is stuck in a Peronist stasis, repeating the same mistakes, over and over again....
@17
Jul 26th, 2014 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gosh Alistair Nigel, don't you have a mobile? Pretty much everybody else in China does.
No sportspeople in Argentina; just political cyphers.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The level of the fine doesn't matter. The important message is that the action was wholly inappropriate. Argentine people should be more forceful with their Government. Looks like they will let them get away with anything they like.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0l fully agree, the malvinas(wherever they are & whatever they could possibly be), probably are Argentine.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0We'll keep the Falklands, thank you so much.
And NO, José, you or Argentina can't have them.
lf you find these mythical malvinas, José, be sure to let us know what they are, won't you?
Maybe a type of bird or insect?
#17
Jul 26th, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0We would rather you died also.
U$D33,000 (£19,540 in real money) OR 431,834 in argie arsewipes.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0That won't keep the crook Blatter in whores for the week.
It IS funny though!
Is it true that tens of thousands of Argentine football fans have stayed in Brazil? They think life is better there apparently.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain why you consider me hateful? I don't think I have ever said anything hatefull to anyone on this forum YOU TWAT.
@ 12 ynsere who wrote: But I wonder if FIFA will be able to collect?
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If not, then I wonder if Argentina will be able to play FIFA governed football? FIFA has Argentina by the balls.
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I notice that today the idiot child Tobias from Mendoza is playing ”Alistair Nigel (EUian)”.
The Falklands are British.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is bankrupt.
Argentina lost the World Cup.
Argies are the palestinking of South America!
Did any other country get punished for anything similar?
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ola Elaine -
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes it is sadly, and it has been going on for many decades.
For years I used to see Argentinians in the streets, in Rio and Sampa traffic, subsisting here on what would diplomatically be described as handouts, day by day. Up until 1982, it was hard for many of us to understand why Europeans would have to do this if they were so well off, in our country.
When the Galtieri Junta was in power, it was understandable, as many were fleeing incarceration and death literally. Now, under the Kirchner dynasty, it not only continues, but has massively increased.
Is it true that tens of thousands of Argentine football fans have stayed in Brazil? They think life is better there apparently.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im only linking to this particular paper as its non-british.
Although Brazil's once-gangbuster economy has slowed in recent years, the situation is far better than that in crisis-wracked Argentina, which has a shortage of dollars and one of the world's highest inflation rates.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/specials/football/worldcup2014/fwc-freekicks/world-cup-over-but-some-argentines-won-t-go-home/sp-article10-1244363.aspx
The truth is always hard to swallow,
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and 30.000 swiss francs will make it even easier for us to laugh..
@4
Jul 26th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And England won the world cup this year with a hat trick from goalie Joe Hart.
”A statement from FIFA said the AFA had been fined and issued with a reprimand after it was deemed to be in breach of Article 60 of the FIFA stadium safety and security regulations ('political action') and Article 52 of the FIFA disciplinary code ('team misconduct').”
This is probably rated as good news in Argentina and a 'success.'
The fine is a waste of time, Argentina will not pay up but what's the betting that according to them -it will be' paid in 25 years time'.
And next year it will still be ' paid in 25 years time.'
For old times sake and just for you José Malvinero, I'll log in and ask this 164 year old question. Can you explain the 1850 Convention of Settlement and why it does not include Tha Falkland Islands?
Jul 26th, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Christina says that the Argentine people have be yearning for 'their' islands since 1833, but where was this 'yearning' when this treaty was signed?
As the translation oft quoted Mal Vinas, or Sour Grapes. In which case, here is your perfect website. Enjoy. http://www.elmalvinense.com/
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Jul 26th, 2014 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0for 1881 (Patagonia abuse), for 1891 (Baltimore incident), for 1965 (Teniente Merino/Laguna del Desierto incident), Beagle Conflict 1978 and for 1977 till 1984 (Operation Soberania):
Jul 27th, 2014 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0LONG LIVE THE FALKLAND ISLANDS, BRITISH FOREVER!
http://www.argentina-rree.com/7/7-004.htm
http://www.argentina-rree.com/7/7-004.htm
http://www.argentina-rree.com/7/7-004.htm
http://www.argentina-rree.com/7/7-004.htm
30,000 Swiss francs for insulting the World Cup is chicken feed!
Jul 27th, 2014 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
@49
Jul 27th, 2014 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the principle, people are not impressed with argentine constant whinging and making political statements at sporting events. If they are not prepared to fight us for them or take us to court, then STFU and stop crying, it's so childish.
In the greater scheme of things this is nothing.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's far greater that the Argentinian politician came over to the Falklands recently, only to go home to not the best of receptions. I take my hat off to him for doing that rather than concocted political events such as this banner.
I'm all for the people living their choosing their own path, but things move on. So we should still all wish a better path for the Falklands.
The comments today remind me of Northern Ireland 30 years back. Being 46 I remember those times and the Falklands war.
Time to move on, see what's the best plot to do. Israel and Palestine just show what failure to do so means to everyone.
And no, I am not saying give the Falklands to the Argentinians, but I am saying politicians and people need to be clever and have opens minds.
Was very proud to see how cared for the Argentinian war cemetery looked recently. People at heart are people. Decent folk, that's worth more than ideals.
Once I retire I would love to visit Ascension, St Helena and the Falklands. And I will do so.
Andy
Andy, 51... you sound like a nice pal, but it looks like you don't know Argentinian mentality, and therefore I must say your thoughts are being somewhat naive. Discuss... discuss what? There is nothing to discuss, and discussing just means unreal ilusions to the argentinian aspirations.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There aren't many open options here, it's easy:
1. Keep them British
2. let the FI People decide if the want to stay British, become Argentinian or become Independent.
3. Force them to become Argentinian (ignoring the will of the FI)
4. ?
Nr 2 has been made reality, and we all know that the Falklanders want to stay british and by no chance accept an Argentinian annexation (who could blame them!)
Nr 3 would be a violation of human rights, forcing the military forces of the UK to their duty to defend their people.
All points lead to the result of point 1. Everything else is time waste and Opium für das Volk, Argentinian mental m***urbation. Somwhat similar like the Bolivian Aspirations to gain a sovereign access the the ocean.
@51 Andy
Jul 28th, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Northern Ireland situation has not resulted in it's take over by Ireland.
So we should still all wish a better path for the Falklands.
Correct-and you don't exclude the inhabitants as though their views 'in the greater scheme of things' are irrelevant.
I agree it is a good thing that Cobos came over to the Falklands. However because he was more concerned with his image, than being practical and actually achieving something, he declined to talk to Penguin News. A bit short sighted as he could have conveyed his opinion to the Islanders or perhaps outlined a more practical approach by Argentina to the Islands if he becomes the nest president.
They chose the wrong place and the wrong time to display such a pointless attitude. Now, suck it up.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0We don't need or want anything from Argentina and we coulddn't really care whether or not Argentina wants anything from us. In fact, most of us would be quite happy never to hear the name 'Argentina' again.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@55 knarfw,
Jul 28th, 2014 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How very true.
That relatively small sum of money could be a life changer for say, some homeless Argentinian.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What an irresponsible thing to have done, and invite the needless waste of public funds in that manner.
Well done CFK. (Not)
54
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That sums it up quite succinctly. Well put!
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