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Cristina Fernandez will analyze holdouts' case during her stay in Rio Gallegos
President Cristina Fernandez left on Friday for Santa Cruz province, where she will stay for the weekend and analyze New York Argentine/holdouts case briefings. The Argentine delegation returned on Friday to Buenos Aires after two meetings with appointed mediator Daniel Pollack in New York, where no resolution was reached. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHow long now before a photo like the one of TMBoA above is the last public glimpse of her? The only difference will be that the last photo will have palm trees in the background behind Tango 1.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kicillof called on “central countries” to “play by the rules,” accusing world powers of “validating” “speculative attacks” against emerging economies.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meaningless tosh meant for domestic consumption.
What a joke by an over promoted clerk who is right out of his depth.
Seriously Argentinians your only collective hope is China. Get your begging bowls out.
the only “systemic effects” result of the stupidity of ck and her gang, on top kicillof.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0trade standards have to be fulfilled and not to be discussed for 12 years and during this time the crooks fill their pockets.
Wonga may be able to help. :-)
Jul 26th, 2014 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2. You can't get much more “central” than the United States. And the United States appears to be playing by the rules in that it's not interfering with its judiciary.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder about “speculative attacks”. Who issued the bonds and then defaulted? That was neither speculative nor an attack. It was a stone bonker against a bunch of crooks.
Why is argieland always supported by “the majority” of countries? In point of fact, “the majority” of countries wouldn't try to act fraudulently and then evade its legitimate debts.
She is going to “analyze” what? Now? After a Decade?
Jul 26th, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a stupid hag.
She can't even read English!
Lithium soaked has been taking 40MM people down the toilet while she banks her stolen Billions.
It makes me physically ill that the population is so stupid, lazy and weak and puts up with this nonsense.
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Jul 26th, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The decision to default has already been taken what she is now planning really, is how to pull through 5 months up to January and then negotiates with the holdouts some form of agreement to return to the capital markets.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ANSES and BCRA will have to bear the forefront of the expenses as if they weren’t heavily indebted with them already.
@7
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are not very good at getting your comments read are you?
8. If she defaults there won't be an agreement in 2015. They'll wait to deal with the new Prez in 2016.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There's no way to keep the lights on in BA that long.
The land of mental midgets who are too busy drinking ground up alfalfa and living “tranquilo” to even realize that the rest of the world doesn't even know or care what's going on in Argentina. Let's see, going from the 3rd largest economy in the world in the 1920's to about number 36 today is a model to follow? Wow, what a great story! When all you are known for is Tango, Evita, beef and mate, don't expect too many people to stand up and take notice, particularly things that took place in the 1940's and before.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 010. That’s what she is counting on at least. Any problems?? No problems, you know who's she going to pass the blame them on to.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#11 you forgot revolutions crazy economics declaring war on defenceless islanders, subsequent humiliation and financial defaults. You only mentioned the good bits. The bad bits probably matter more.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Golf. He comments on the Bloomberg news also with the same name and same cut and pasted post.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 012. There's an awful lot of chatter and wrong thinking, this is not going to be like 2001, there are no similarities and the same “fixes” can't be used again.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think they are gong to be sorely disappointing in this outcome.
I hear there's talk of moving up the elections.
I hope not
Somebody better be keeping an eye on the La Campora higher ups to make sure they stay in the country so they can end up in jail or something more fitting.
If only Argentina had offered bondholders a deal equal to Singer all those years ago instead of trying to be super tough with investors it viewed as powerless.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their greed has caught up with them. It is very amusing watching CFK trying to trump justice with popularity.
There's nothing to analyze.... comply with the court order or suffer for years because of Christina's ego and Argentina's non compliance....
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha , ho ho he he ,
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK sunbathing on the beach, whilst Argentina burns,
lolol
Is that Flor-polish in the photo with Kristina?
Jul 26th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Systemic effects that jeapordize the improvement in people's life conditions.' What a Marxist sentence.
Jul 26th, 2014 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Jul 26th, 2014 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that is Crissy-speak for “Reality is interfering with the lies I've been telling people for the last few years.”
@19
Jul 26th, 2014 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nah, it's someone with a moustache and a beard, could be Flora though
Maybe it's paulcedron?
Jul 27th, 2014 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe it's “El Diego”, partying with Christina and Gisele Bündchen.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 023 ilsen
Jul 27th, 2014 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe not. Too masculine for Pablo Cedrona
Pure theatre, playing for time when a decision has already been made.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is now the morning of 27.07.2014. The 30th is coming, along with a well earned and deserving Truth Commission to follow.
El Think has been analysing the holdouts' case in his humble Chubutean Post & Beam shed...
Jul 27th, 2014 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0In about 72 hours, the “Leverage” some Banksters and Vulture Funds have had over Argentina during the last many years will be definitively gone...
In about 72 hours, Argentina will, yet again, be honouring her debts, depositing 650 million U$S in the Paris Club Bank account...
(Would luuuuuuuuuuuv to see them Banksters and Vulture Funds, through their loyal Yankee judge, Mr. Griesa, try to block that one... :-)))
In about 72 hours them Banksters and Vulture Funds can again start their futile chase of old sailships, commercial airplanes, weather satellites, nuclear reactors and embassy buildings again..., as they have tried more than 300 times during the past 10 years without any success whatsoever..
All in all, in the humble opinion of this old Chubutean, a complete Win-Win situation for Argentina....
Think is happy.....
I wonder how TMBOA's analysis of the situation is going.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0This paragraph in the article amused me somewhat:
The president left Buenos Aires at mid day in the Tango 01 presidential plane to Río Gallegos. She is also scheduled to -visit her son Maximo Kirchner and her niece Nestor Ivan in the Patagonian province, according to an official press release.
I'm sure it's nothing more than a translation error (or Mercopress having fun) but I can't get the image of TMBOA's sweet little niece Nestor Ivan out of my head.
Think is a wonderful example to all and sundry of a slippery duplicitous Argentinian. He applauds criminality and revels in Argentinian default and aggression, but tries to conceal this under a transparent veneer of mild assertions. As a nation Argentina must learn that criminal behavoir doesnt pay in the long run. This time they will pay a heavy price.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please do not confuse me with the fifth columnist bagpipe wielding idiot that continually swallows Thinks lies whole. I am sure you wont.
Think has never posted a prediction that has come true. His lies and half truths are evident to everyone here.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0My guess the last time he set foot in Argentina was sometime in the 70s.
This coming crash will be like nothing any living Rg has been through before.
I can't wait to watch it from afar.
Turnips... Turnips as far as one's eyes can see...
Jul 27th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Monolingual Anglo Turnip at (28) gets his kicks from another Monolingual Anglo Turnip linguistic gaffes...
Brainwashed Anglo Turnip at (29) asks us not to confuse him with the very person he, quite unsuccessfully, tries to emulate...
What a bunch of Turnips!
Looks like the Chinese are going to be pulling back their loans too. They won't loan to a country in default.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder how many other loan covenants will become due immediately upon a declared default?
I know WB, IMF, IDB are all preparing for Arg to default...again.
People are rolling their eyes and chuckling about it here.
:)
I'm a little unsure as to why supposedly a Brit is a nutritious white root vegetable.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think are you someone trying to let us all know that you'd like to eat us..... If so I'd like to clarify I don't bat for that team.
If I did though, I'd rather stick wasps up my arse than get into bet with you...... Turnips indeed.....
I would call you a vagina, but those things are useful and tough (can take a pounding), however you Think dear are perhaps more a kin to a wet fart..... Great for clearing a room, often accompanied by poo in your pants (from what you mother has told me.... Please ask her to stop calling.... No means no!) and often fun to laugh at.
Two more Anglo Turnips since last..... but non of them one can even begin to challenge the proven facts on my post (27)...:
Jul 27th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 01) In about 72 hours, the “Leverage” some Banksters and Vulture Funds have had over Argentina during the last many years (forcing a “technical” default) will be definitively gone...
2) In about 72 hours, Argentina will, yet again, be honouring her debts, depositing 650 million U$S in the Paris Club Bank account...
(Would luuuuuuuuuuuv to see them Banksters and Vulture Funds, through their loyal Yankee judge, Mr. Griesa, try to block that one... :-)))
3) In about 72 hours them Banksters and Vulture Funds can again start their futile chase of old sail-ships, commercial airplanes, weather satellites, nuclear reactors and embassy buildings again..., as they have tried more than 300 times during the past 10 years without any success whatsoever...
Chuckle chuckle....
Argentina should pay all of their debts, celebrating resuming payments after a decade of interest and penalties have built up is a bit embarrassing though. At least to us in the civilized world.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0BCRA should hold onto the U$, they are quickly running dry and not doing a very good job of papering it over any longer.
They're going to need that cash to pay for fuel.
I is rather unseemly that you cheer scofflaws, deadbeats, losers and mock the rule of law.
It is a serious character flaw that a lot of Rgs possess.
I think that is why the country continues to fail.
In a week or so NML with the backing of SCOTUS will begin to harass and embarrass Argentina.
I hope they goes after LNG shipments.
I'd love to see BA in blackout when its cold.
It would make my day.
:)
Think. You are the quintessential Argentine, or pretend to be Argentine. Always thinking of some clever ( picaro) way to avoid accountability for your actions. Always the myopic solution that has been your history that has taken you down to this point. Chuckling is your answer. I am not surprised. Be assured that the world of the non banana republics is not chuckling along with you.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot believe that all Argentinians are supercilious tossers.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0New Anglo Turnip at (36)..... seems to be offended about this humble old citizen approving about his “Banana Republic” doing its best, during the past thirteen years, to curb the unrestricted political powers of them unelected multinational Banksters and Vulture Funds....
Jul 27th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....Whilst his own “No Banana Queendom”, during the very same thirteen years period, has done its best to invade and destroy the social fabric of entire Countries as, for example Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya...
Not to mention his Queendom's billions of Pounds arms sales contracts to “Non Banana Kingdoms & Republics” as Saudi Arabia, Russia and Israel.... or his Queendom's recent trillion Pounds LIBOR manipulation scandal or the even greater, ongoing London Foreign Currency manipulation scandal....
Its ironic that someone who calls himself Think tells serial porkies and issues a stream of failed predictions calls anyone that points out these defects Turnips? And all the while living abroad insulated from tbe trials endured by countrymen. Please tell us what is going on in Chubut this weekend but is not on the internet yet?
Jul 27th, 2014 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We will all see what happens and look forward to next Friday. Its just a crying shame that many decent folk in Argentina will suffer because of the ineptitude of the corrupt bunch of bandits in the Argentinian government.
You cannot go on printing money and giving it to feckless poor to buy votes and support indefinately. You have joined the worlds leading group of pariahs and outcasts. The brown stuff will hit the fan shortly.
Chuckle chuckle….
I am off for a blast on my bagpipes…
Chuckle chuckle
You know...I have never actually seen turnips in the supermarkets or veggie kioskos...another thing missing in this country. And cfk is now going to “analyse” something???...she couldn't analyse a bag of turnips.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Analysis is winding up. That 20 year old rust bucket is getting ready to fly back to BA; hopefully without incident this time.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 days to go before the start of another chapter. It doesn't really matter how this unfolds; Argentina is in a bad bad way.
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Jul 27th, 2014 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you play bagpipes as well....only @29 you said not to confuse yourself with me....
...you are certainly confused...first abandoning the subterfuge then adopting it again.
You have certainly failed to fool anyone...so why not come clean and tell us all how you are able to copy my ID...?
As it stands, your posts really just emulate the ocean of brainwashed Anglo's that wash the shores of this sounding board....unable to think for yourself and separate the truth from the propaganda....
You are not “THE Voice”.....you are just another voice that needs to adopt my persona otherwise your posts would be indistinguishable from the rest....
...what does that make you.....characterless and insignificant....
...how embarrassing......;-)))))
...I'm quite fond of Neeps.....with plenty of black pepper gives it a bit of bite....
....Turnips Turnips, everywhere and not a bite to eat.....
#42? thats the answer to life, the universe and everything!
Jul 27th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Worry you do I - your IT skills arent up to much are they ? :-) I 'Think' you are hacked off! Some of the others will soon suffer the same fate. We all know where you are… thats a clue
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Jul 27th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing to do with IT.....and very much to do with privileged access...finally admitting it I see....;-)
@35. I see from the Buenos Aires Herald that it's getting a bit chilly. In more ways than one. Sub-zero temperatures. That must be nasty. Over 30 here in Britain.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41. What do you think the new “chapter” will be? At 34, Twinky thinks argieland will be sliding out from under again.
However, as we can see in this article http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/165595/‘there-has-been-no-progress-and-the-situation-is-stalled’ related to an interview with a specialist lawyer, who seems to have been involved, who reckons that the RUFO clause won't apply and that argieland WILL default. What do we reckon? 3 days and about 6 hours and the whole house of cards starts to collapse. Wonder how long it will be before the effects start to be seen? The most important things, of course, are machinery and parts and motor vehicles and parts. They have to be imported, and paid for. Who's paying for that?
Think me old wurzel.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Turnips dont come in bunches.
For storage they go into clamps but even so they rot in that condition after a year, let alone twelve.
Ah yes clamps..... Next week an Argentine clamp down?
46
Jul 27th, 2014 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Redpoll,
ThinkVoiceOver really is a bit of a clump, isn't he?
:-)
45 Not sure what the new chapter will contain but this week is a key milestone in the chaotic debacle.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 046, 47 Don't feed the deadbeats.
Welsh Wizard and Yankeeboy.
We'd all appreciate your educated predictions on the week ahead for TMBOA and her cronies.
(46) redp0ll
Jul 27th, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rotten Turnips, you say?
Are you referring to my post (38) about the Rotten Engrish Queendom?
I'm certain the good vicar in Bradford fully agrees with me ;-)
48 Oh I duonno JB, Wurzels comments are always good for a laff especially after his third pink gin down the Legion.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 050 Who is Wurzel?
Jul 27th, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mangelwurzel, a close vegetative relative of the turnip and the swede, aka Think JB
Jul 27th, 2014 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Okay, got you. He's just a troll (in all names) who insists on acknowledgement when it suits him but then refuses to acknowledge others when they make valid points. I won't be wasting any more time time than this on him. Like I said before: don't feed the deadbeats.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Yankeeboy and Welsh Wizard. Forecast this week for us.
A last Word JB. Wurzel is a west country term for a scarecrow
Jul 27th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think anything will happen in a week.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It looks like default is immanent, BCRA has been paying up to 270 days late for exports, 6 mos late for imports, that means they are out of U$ and working on a float. That can't last too much longer.
The only reason BA still has lights is because there're barely any activity in the factories.
More layoffs will come
Remember Arg Govt has hired over 2MM, yes 2MM!! 5% of their total population!! to keep the unemployment number low.
The Fed Gov't is broke, the provinces are worse, they are printing pesos to cover up the HUGE decrease in tax revenue and overspending
In the near term, they'll devalue again and inflation will accelerate coupled with what will end up being a depression. Its a toss up to what's going to start first hyperinflation. depression or civil unrest
it ain't lookin' good
1)Default comes on Thursday
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 02)Christina, Elvis and Capitan stupid start the spin of “no big deal, it's just a short time till new year and then we'll be ready to show those vultures who's boss”
3) Griesa will start helping the holdouts to the extent he can. The seizing of assets, if any, will go into high gear.
4) The Dollar will go to 15 by the 15th of August.
5) All of the converted bond holders ( it only takes 25%)will demand acceleration of payment by eom.
6) Inflation will hit 3% in September
7) The harvest is just about over so the income from exports will dwindle and the import of energy will start the drain of reserves yet again.
8) The natives will start the drum beating and another banana republic Prez goes down for the next group of thieves to take over.
54
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On a final note....and that note is a D ..I think...
♬..I am a Cider Drinker......it soothes all me troubles away,
Ooh arrh, ooh arrh ay, Ooh arrh, ooh arrh ay.....♬
Percy: Do not despair! For I have some small savings carefully harvested from my weekly allowance, set aside against my frail old age. By lucky haps, it is just over a thousand, methinks, and for years has been hidden beyond the wit of any thief, in an old sock...
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Percy and Blackadder: ...under the squeaky floorboard...
Percy, Blackadder and Baldrick: ...behind the kitchen dresser.
Percy: [smiles uneasily] You've seen it, then.
Blackadder: Seen it, pinched it, spent it! And the same goes for the two farthings Baldrick thinks he’s got hidden inside that mouldy potato.
Baldrick: Oh, bloody hell!
...my forecast
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing will change...same amount of currency reserves etc...
..nothing physically has changed.....
..only change, a technical default....so what...
Vamos a ver !!
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 059. What's the difference between a default and a technical default?
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've long said the default won't have immediate consequences, it just speeds everything up a lot. BCRA has U$4-6B in cash, maybe less, a lot less. Now that the soy sales are done there's no way to get any more until next year.
Good luck living on what they can find under the seat cushions.
brr
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Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think a default is when you don't have the money to pay your debts... and a technical default is when some old buffoon prevents you from paying your debts...
Maybe Gazprom might be interested in exporting some Gas......
55 and 61 Thanks Yankeeboy.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 056 Interesting also.
Welsh Wizard?
… thing is, I am shit at forecasting consequences.. because, like my soul brother, I always get things wrong. And, I have no knowledge of how financial politics works. Sob…
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 063
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No need to thank me for my forecast....let's see if I'm correct....
62. Gazprom will want U$ and there's no way to get it there without going through international waters where it would be diverted after payment. BTW they have offices in Houston...and I would doubt very much they'd go against a US Court order to help slow-pay Argentina.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Psst...there's no distinction between a “technical” default and a default. You may want to help Austral Elvis et al with that. I don't think they have a very good grasp of English.
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Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I could really see someone trying to intercept a Russian ship in International waters...
...not the best of pals Russia and USA...I could very much see Russia doing business to spite the US...
(59) A_Voice
Jul 27th, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That would be, more or less, my pessimistic evaluation too....
My optimistic one is that, when that Damokles sword of a default shows itself to be completely blunt and inocuous, Argentina will quickly reissue them bonds under Argie legislation, continue to pay the holdins as agreed and and let productive foreign investment gently flow into the Country...
Its not the actual seizing that will stop a tanker, its the threat of seizure and the added litigation they can be wrapped up in.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you seriously think anyone wants to touch Argentina? A known scofflaw, deadbeat who doesn't abide by the contracts they sign?
Silly fools
Your stupidity makes me laugh
68 Think
Jul 27th, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for rescuing me there, although I did get an A level in Economics...I lost interest in it almost immediately...so it's not my forte at all...
..which I have always admitted....
...course...it didn't stop me from making plenty of dosh..;-)
..makes me myself laugh too! For thick as s**t, in future substitute as thick as Think..
Jul 27th, 2014 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 069
Jul 27th, 2014 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ever heard of COD...that's cash when it's delivered.....not in International waters...
Ever ordered goods and the small-print says....goods remain the property of the supplier until paid for in full....sounds like a good convenient clause....to use.
..or maybe you are too stupid to have heard of the ....Obvious...
They already pay COD, but COD right before the ship enters Arg territorial waters. Most of the time the ship is waiting days, with ARG incurring HUGE daily penalties as they wait in MVD for the full payment plus penalties.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They also buy on the spot market as needed with no wiggle room to miss a ship.
Its an easy target and I'm sure that Singer has already considered it.
Missing the shipments would send BA into darkness, create civil unrest and embarrass the Gov't
Its perfect.
And Think is under the impression a default will INCREASE investment in Argentina. WTF? That is simply idiotic. I don't even know where to go with that. So this whole decade with no FDI and now after default the money is going to start rolling in?
Sheesh what a dimwit.
BTW issuing new bonds under Arg ( or anywhere else) would throw the country and anyone associated with it under contempt of court. I don't see any bank that would be willing to do that.
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Jul 27th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...pure fantasy....I'm sure Uruguay would allow a US interception to take place in their territorial waters....
In Think's post he doesn't indicate an increase in investment..he said gentle flow...
We have already seen indications of this gentle flow from China....and if I was chatting to Putin...I may have thought it a good idea to enquire about Gas...considering he doesn't have much else...
Think is not living in the same world as the rest....
Jul 27th, 2014 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're really stupid. A simple call to the ship from the company HQ would get it turned around. Uruguay wouldn't be involved at all.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Chinese already told cfk they couldn't loan if arg goes into default.
Wtf would anyone deal with a country that's a known scofflaw and deadbeat.
You're the one living in fantasy.
This might be of help....
Jul 27th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2014/07/26/imf-warns-about-default-costs-for-argentina-calls-for-debt-restructuring-mechanisms
Theres not much time left. Somebody better tell Cristina point blank, Cristina, if you don't pay, they are gonna confiscate all your stuff. Is that so hard?
Jul 27th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe one of the smart ass argie trolls can explain this: http://news.msn.com/world/world-cup-over-but-some-argentines-wont-go-home
Jul 27th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think someday soon Peruvians, Colombians and maybe even Paraguayans will have Rg maids instead of the other way around the last 75 yrs.
Jul 27th, 2014 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 076
Jul 27th, 2014 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You always start calling people stupid when you begin spouting stupidity yourself...
I'm not following your logic....Russia agrees to sell Argentina gas...COD...
Why would there be a call from the company HQ....
They can't deliver until the ship is at Argentina....therefore the gas doesn't belong to Argentina until Argentina pays for it....Argentina doesn't pay for it until it's delivered...that's why they call it Cash on Delivery.....
At what point can it be intercepted by Singer and by what means....?
..I seriously think you haven't thought this one through.....you should have given this up whilst you were losing.....;-)
Stick to your Guessonomics and leave the lateral thoughts to me...
I noticed that paulcedron doesn't post here. Why do you think that is?
Jul 27th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 082 ilsen
Jul 28th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's because we have one of the Voice personalities instead.
What”s the bet that plane is loaded with USD headed for Venezuela to hide her ill gotten gains.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0No she is headed to Cuba. The papa of all good little socialists will receive her with open arms. The problem is that she will only be happy there for a short while since they are driving 55 Chevys and it stinks since there are no sewers. There are no Chanel boutiques and she can't spend her stolen loot. The world has gotten a lot smaller for banana republic thieves as of late. Ask Ismelda Marcos, Baby Doc et al.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0A word of caution. What seems inevitable and justified, may not be. I cite the freeing of the drug lord Carvajal. He should be in US custody. He is not.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina, of course, is never to blame. Everybody else is, viz.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“In charge of opening the reunion that took place at the headquarters of the Foreign Ministry in Buenos Aires City, Kicillof called on “central countries” to “play by the rules,” accusing world powers of “validating” “speculative attacks” against emerging economies.”
After Argentina defaults later this week, China, Brazil and Uruguay will need to dig deep in order to soften the blow for the ordinary, working class, Argentine Families. I was going to include Venezuela but that Country faces it's own problems.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@63 - YOu an already sse what the next step for Singer is. He is undertaking discovery on RG gov assets in the US with a view to seizing them. If you look at the fact the he is cvhecking on Chevron, YPF and Lazaro Baez you start to get a flavour of what he is goig to do. The day of default, don't expect anythihg flashy to happen, this will probably start as a slow tightening of the noose but once it bites, it you'll notice it. As YB says, there isn't much money left at all, it's cold Argentina at the moment and they are going to be spending between 70-100mm per day keeping the currecy where it is. $70mm per day for a month is $1.4 bn. Add fuel shipments on to that and you are almost out of cash.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0The default will also make it difficult to 1. lend into ARG, and 2. will ensure that argentina cross-default on all its other debt. That means an event of default can be called under any loan and eith the margin sky rockets or the money is called. People are right to an extent when they say the default in itaself won't change anything. It is what the defualt does to all the other agreements and debt which is the scary thing.
Also, I don't think that Gazprom is goig to help, they have enough problemns of thier own without trying to lend money, sell gas to a coutry that won't be able to pay. Afterall, there are many other countries in the world that offer better payment terms and less of a risk...
81. I call you stupid because you are. Let me explain how selling LNG to Argentina works like I am telling my 6 yo nephew.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bad Country doesn't pay bills
Bad Country needs gas
Bad Country orders gas a couple weeks before they need it
They are too bad to make long term contracts nobody believes they will honor
Contracted Ship makes it way to Arg
Usually down from Brazil into Uruguay
Ship Captain asks HQ if they have been paid
If not he waits in Uruguay or somewhere else a bit north until U$ is received by HQ
Bad Country has no u$ so they have to wait and pay a HUGE penalty for making ship wait in MVD 100-200K a day I think until they can scrape together the U$ to send for the gas plus all the penalties
Wire gets to HQ, HQ calls ship to move to MDP
Arg pays about 24-48 hrs in advance of getting gas delivered
They are a bad country nobody believes so they can PAY ON DELIVERY
They must pay FIRST then get Delivery
So if Singer wants to F them up good, he waits for the shipment to be paid for then he delivers a court ordered attachment to the shipping company's HQ and say thanks but please turn the ship around I don't want my gas going to Argentina.
Every major shipping company and most major gas companies fall under US law one way or another. Nobody is going to defy a US court order for some deadbeat country.
I think Arg may even have to start paying a bit more for everything since with default they'll have to pre-pay and the number of suppliers willing to deal with deadbeats dwindles considerably.
Now do you get it dimwit?
… I get it, I get it now, I had just been brainwashed by Think, please forgive me…
Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 090
Jul 28th, 2014 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How stupid are you.....correct me if I'm wrong, but we were talking about Russia not Brazil...we are talking about a country that will screw the US at every opportunity they can get...
...and what part of COD didn't you understand.....either they pay COD or they pay in advance....which is it....you can't state they pay COD then say they pay in advance...
How Stupid can you get.....?
I also don't believe a word you are saying...give me some links proving your point or STFU.....as usual you are guessing...just like all your Guessonomics.....
I would like to see a court order being sent through Singer to a Russian vessel.....and them complying....you live in a dreamworld....
The likely scenario would be the appearance of a Russian Sub in International waters surfacing behind the vessel.....
You are such a Fcukwit.....
You clearly don't know what you are talking about. Its funny you get so flustered and start sputtering when you've been called out.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You'd think you'd get used to it after all this time
Psst, who supplies most of the LNG to Arg, Trinidad/Tobago with brokerage through Morgan Stanley...
How the heck do you think a Russian ship is going to get to Argentina in the two week delivery time they need?
ooops
dimwit
91, 93 Yankeeboy
Jul 28th, 2014 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks, that is interesting and informative.
Oh dear oh dear there you go again.....it takes a tanker 12 days to travel from Europe..(Holland to Brazil)....five thousand miles....
Jul 28th, 2014 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....didn't I tell you to quit while you were still behind.....;-)
95.And you think these tankers are ready to go with no contracted buyers? BTW who do you think owns/runs the Escobar LNG terminals in Arg...
Jul 28th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A good ol' USA company..that's who.
Argentina buys on the spot market, they take what they can get and who they can get it from. The are short 4-6 tankers this winter. They could only afford to contract for 2.
So they have to get tankers that are ready to go ON THIS SIDE OF THE ATLANTIC
That posts reminds me of the idiot Think saying they could fly Snowdon from Russia to South America without stopping.
Only in your and his fantasy world are these things possible.
The rest of us live in the real world.
Yankee, what a laugh. People who issue a stream of verbal diarrhoea like that are known in Scotland as blatherers. A Voice is a champion blatherer.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think/Voice have a combination of stupidity, arrogance, smugness with a dollop of delusion that seems to be common with a lot of the Rgs currently running the country.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are rarely in the real world but in some bizzaro world where everything opposite is real to them.
Default will bring investment
Russia/China care more about giving free fuel to CFK than running afoul of the USA.
Won Decade
and my favorite
It takes 3 hours by car to get to Lycoming PA from Pearson, JFK or IAD, your choice they are all equal in time and distance, you can safely travel at an average speed of 85mph through the back roads of PA without getting stopped by police or behind big trucks going up hills or going through small towns where the speed limit is oh say 25.
That's my favorite.
And he stands by it!!
He is a mouthy liar and a dimwit to think anyone believes him
What me? Havent you realised, I am just an old blatherer, just like a bagpipe bellows, full of just……. wind. I do have an A Level though!
Jul 28th, 2014 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I heard YPF had to put its U$5B bond float on hold...
Jul 28th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah investment money will keep flowing in..
I heard the provinces had to withdraw their U$ bond float too...
I bet CFK was counting on those U$ just like she was counting on IDB and WB disbursments
Quick call Russia and China...quick I told ya..
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Jul 28th, 2014 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is so much fun...you say one of your fictitious statements...and I prove you wrong with a fact...then you state more fiction without any links to verify...and we are all supposed to swallow it......;-)))
Every time you stray off your one subject ...I show you to be Dumber than a bag of Rocks....
For goodness sake will someone tell this Cuckoo idiot that in Scotland it's “Blether”....
101. I think we all missed the “facts' you used to prove me wrong.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are they again?
These facts you call them
Facts?
Google ”Argentina LNG Deliveries” if you think I am wrong. There's about 15 pages but you have to read them all to see the pattern.
See I know I am right
always
otherwise I won't post anything
Same reason you can't ever catch me in a lie
unlike you silly dimwit
Dimwit? What about my A Level?
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0102
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FACT..it takes a tanker 12 days to travel 5 thousand miles from Europe!!!
....so two weeks not a problem...
LNG facts...?....Why not give me the link directly to it.....;-)
I have caught you lots of times lying.....show me the post where you stated that I said you travel South to PA from Dulles.....
You can't because you were lying...;-)))
Go on...now's the chance to prove me wrong.....;-)))
Yankee (The) other Voice has been emasculated. Something got under his kilt. Perhaps it was me?
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't need to prove anything to anyone and I am not here to try to educate the slow witted.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW my response was how many of those full Russian LNG freighters are available on the spot market when Argentina needs them? Give me a list my tanker please, its all on line.
You obviously have nothing better to do
You and idiot think, assume because something is barely in the realm of possibility that is is a “fact” I think you called it. As I stated before the rest of us are in the real world.
Our conversation where Pop and I destroyed your lies about travel and made fun of you is in the MP archives for all to see. You might want to refresh your memory I know exactly what I said. Maybe its just too painful to review.
I understand
It must be hard to be a dimwit who thinks they are smart
...not a single link...thought not....
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You had the opportunity.....but full of excuses....
...also you might as well say bye bye to the The Voice...it appears I left him looking somewhat foolish....;-)
Yankeeboy...the one trick pony....
The are only so many LNG tankers in the Merchant fleet. Though.....BP just contract new ones to be built. The ones not owned directly by BP and Shell, the vast portion of them are on long term charters making the same runs over and over. There are only hands of independents that are available for spot shipping. Ask any Merchant Mariner.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0108
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pops...it was all “what ifs” anyway...
It started with me saying “maybe” Russia would supply them with Gas...
Didn't BP do a share swap with the Russians some time ago, so I would imagine there might be some ties...
106 Yankeeboy. Stop feeding the trolls.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder how TMBOA's analysis went. Do you anticipate more more rhetoric from either side or is time up?
89 Welsh Wizard
Very interesting post. Is this public info about Singer or do you know it from inside contacts? Has he actually seized anything to-date? I've heard people say his attempts have failed. We all remember the high profile Libertad case but have there been many others?
105 Yankeeboy
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the reminder of ThinksVoice's silly lies.
The “PA Hideout Charade”
- Has no idea he has to pass through US Customs after landing at Pearson Airport, in order to enter the US.
- no idea about car rental rules or car rental across US borders
- thinks he can economically park a 4x4 at the airport for 6 or 12 months at a time, and then drive it averaging. 75mph through freeway traffic and down rural backroads of NY and PA
And the ever childish,
Trout Run PA:
VT - “ I have property there, in Trout Run, here I'll pinpoint for you, without giving an actual address - are you too stupid to find it?”
Reasonable Man - “ there are no municipal, tax, utilities, or land title records, or any indication that a foreign individual owns one of the. 150 properties there”
VT - “..oo ... er... well, that's because I'm hiding... ”
111
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....that's right do the usual...come to YB's rescue...he needs it...
Every time I run rings round someone...you appear like some sycophant...trying to cover up their embarrassment....
...tell me did you drive into the States and import a car....thought not...you are just full of it...
@110 - Yup, all public record. If it was inside info I wouldn't be able to tell you! He has tried to seize things in the past but now he'll be doing it with the backing of the US courts. This should allow him a lot more latitude especially as the courts will be pretty pissed off that Argentinas has decided to ignore its order...
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now they are quoting the pope. Stating that the pope said Griesa is farther right than the Republicans.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder how that will go down in the Vatican?
Voice while BP is a British entity......their largest assets in in North America. I can't see BP, especially after the gulf swapping with the Russians to aid Argentina.........IMHO.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once a product is in a ships hold and the ship is underway it comes under Admiralty law. If it is an American flagged vessel it would go straight to federal courts otherwise it would be held to the international conventions.
Eitherway, I don't see BP loaning Russia a tanker nor do I see a load of LNG being taken from a foreign flagged vessel. Singer needs to go after other assets other than that on the ocean. BTW......CIA(cash in advance) but slim chances of COD from a ocean shpment.
Hmmm run rings… I think you got that wrong. Its you going around in circles. Everyone knows what a dumb cluck you area
Jul 28th, 2014 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it is a lost cause.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0whether we go to another default or not, the consequences will be more or less the same : no foreign investors will put their money here while kirchner is in charge. a lot less with useless kicillof in charge of economy.
the good thing is that most of us are aware of that.
now, are the british aware of their calamitous economy as well?
it seems to me they live in a fart cloud.
Fastest growing economy in the G7.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it´ll be the fastest shrinking economy of the g7 very soon
Jul 28th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The International Monetary Fund warned on Monday that the pound was “overvalued” and preventing the rebalancing of the economy away from a reliance on spending and imports.”
For all those that think Russia will 'rescue' Argentina may I kindly point out that the size of the economy of Russia is pretty similiar to the economy Italy...
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So therefore a LOT smaller than the 'little' old UK.
Puts it all in perspective I think.
They won't 'rescuing' anybody anytime soon ...
112 petulant Voice
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“....that's right do the usual...come to YB's rescue...he needs it...
Every time I run rings round someone...you appear like some sycophant...trying to cover up their embarrassment....
...tell me did you drive into the States and import a car....thought not...you are just full of it... ”
Oh, you are so-o-o... jealous !!!
I am really surprised you remember that so clearly, wasn't that two years ago??
Do you know how common it is to import a car from the 'States to Canada???
It's done all the time, you schmuck !!
I was talking to Poppy, not you.
If I recall, I was looking forward to my annual Christmas trip to San Francisco
California is the best place to buy a well-preserved rust- free classic convertible. A drive up the Oregon Coast to home, is a beautiful relaxing drive.
Too bad you'll never experience it.
:-)
THAT deal fell through. Does that give you satisfaction? LOL !!!
That car turned out not to be what it was supposed to be. Had a good couple of weeks holidays anyway - Napa, San Francisco. Great time of year - San Francisco is quiet and sunny, seafood restaurants have no lineups. You should try the Franciscan, or Scoma's in Sausalito - great Crab Louis!
Oh, right, you can't. You don't travel. Is it money issues?? Or are you “inadmissible” ??
LOL !!!
BTW, many classic cars in the 'States are a bargain right now, but our $ is dropping as their Housing prices and economy improve.
I'm looking at car in PA right now. It might not pass muster either, I've only seen pictures so far...
No, not near Trout Run. :-)
“Full of it”???
LOL, no.
That's the way things are, here.
But you'll never know, will you???
You are so jealous and miserable.
We have a good life here in North America... suck it up!!
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Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah well Pops....you know about the Ocean....don't or didn't you have some sort of professional interest in it....?...so I'll defer to your greater experience.....
121
I remember everything!
I remember every little thing as if it happened only yesterday.
I was barely seventeen and I once killed a boy with a Fender guitar....
I'm not going to travel all the way to the West when there is plenty to see and do in the East...
...maybe Jellystone Park see if I can spot Yogi Bear....he's smarter than the average bear...I've heard....
122 ThinksVoice
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...maybe Jellystone Park see if I can spot Yogi Bear....he's smarter than the average bear...I've heard....”
well, Yogi certainly has you beat then...
123
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW..if you were a Brit which you aren't, you would be familiar with the expression “hideaway” as opposed to “Hideout”....
124
Jul 28th, 2014 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I said, “...well, Yogi certainly has you beat then...”.
1) Hideout - as in the classic gangster usage, a secret hiding place for criminal elements while the 'heat ' from authorities cools off.
2) Hideaway - a remote secret comfy nest that lovers retreat to for privacy.
You got the first one perfectly, and I don't suppose you ever had a use for the second.
:-D
Yep,
we're all mocking you - I guess 'negative attention' is better than NO attention, right??
Tell us about air travel again, and your “Eastern” destinations.
Edinburgh ?? ;-)
By we... do you mean yourself and your puppet...;-)
Jul 28th, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This reminds me of a game of keep away with a slow witted child or dumb dog.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 013/1
At some point BCRA just won't have the u$ to keep this tamped down.
Will Argentina default
Jul 28th, 2014 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yes/no
Categorically, and without hesitation, or bias, I can say you only need to email me on 01.08.2014, and I will let you know.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0126 thinksVoice
Jul 28th, 2014 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By “we”, I mean your penis.
Not surprising that several of us would arrive independently at the realisation you're a lying narcissist.
If we hear anything from you that is not a reference to your own pretensions or how marvelous you are, it's either from Wiki/google .
How many times have I insulted you directly, asking if you are inadmissible for travel out of Britain?
I have said directly that your unusual silence over Christmas was due to being incarcerated for drunken domestic violence, and that you have no money to travel.
Ha ha, no reaction!
Someone as caustic, pretentious, and narcissistic as you, and no argument.
I think I've nailed you - you just try to distract, hoping I'll move on.
You appear to be nothing more than a frustrated miserable Troll with only the price of a pint in your pocket, and the hope that someone will stand you a Whisky.
130
Jul 28th, 2014 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Speaking of travel...you have never been to he the UK have you....
What kind of a Brit wannabe is that....?
Go on Troy make some stuff up...so I can catch you out.....;-)
Ooo what's that I got a couple of weeks ago..let me look..school tax assessment...
...if I pay on or before...08/31/14..2% ..Disc or on or before 10/31/14 ..Face amount or if paid after 10/31/14 ..10% Penalty....
Why do they always put the date backwards...
Any Yanks out there recently got their assessment..?..Is it similar..?
Course it is..;-)
You are one jealous cookie....I tell no lies and you know it.....
That's what bothers you....
You are also upset that you were fooled by the other Voice..thinking it was me....you said so several times and now you feel foolish....
You are back to following me about again.....my stalker....;-)
Why not try commenting on the article for a change, as I do....
131. You made 1 comment on this article. The rest were feeble attempts to try and get your dignity back.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It didn't work
132
Jul 28th, 2014 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah and what about you..?
What have most of your comments got to do with the article....you are just as guilty of digressing....
...don't play the innocent.
If I didn't have to post to correct idiots like you and Think my posts would be all relevant to the articles.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW I hope the Arg D squad at least takes a shower, shaves, washes their hair for tomorrow. Maybe they could wear a tie and leave the backpack in the car.
They're like a bunch baboons coming to the big city.
What an embarrassment.
You have corrected nothing..I ..as usual expose your dumb ignorance.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My posts were just as relevant...
I'm still waiting for the links....
Your word doesn't mean sh!t....back up your blarney....
131 voice troll
Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0weak weeeeakkk weak attempt at a comeback.
Yes, I've been to the UK.
There, now prove I haven't :-)
YOU are the one making wild claims about travelling that are frankly, naive, outdated, and laughable - and yet you persist!!
OMG it's too funny!!
What now, two paragraphs on the “correct” format for dates ???
Are you out of your mind??
Yes, I do know there is another Voice - a better one for that matter.
Sure had your blood boiling that no aft listened to your concerns... :-)
I love dicking with you!!!
Now, you are saying MM is my puppet!
Who was it before ? Poppy?
Which other ones???
What an ass you are - socks, caught in lies, fantasy travel threads, then crying that others picking on you and “stalking” you - it's just not fair that nobody likes you, but the rest of us get along just fine.
Drama Queen !!!
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Jul 28th, 2014 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where..liar...
and...yeah right you knew all along.....NOT...;-)))
Stalking alrighty...where else have I posted...and look who is there....you guessed it...
YOU!! doing the same ole same ole.....when was the last time you commented on an article instead of following me like a dog trying to shag my leg....
For goodness sake get a life....you are a sycophant alrighty...My sycophant...
...get down boy.....
137 thinksVoice
Jul 29th, 2014 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you care?
I don't care what YOU think.
I'm sure that it's safe to say, nobody here does.
You are a self- proclaimed disembodied voice from nowhere, who says he is not a Scot, despises the English, and makes comments and false statements to support foreign ideologies, corrupt foreign politicians, and enemies of the US/ UK etc.
You have ZERO credibility as we have no idea your true affiliations and vested interests, whether you are paid to repeat propaganda from La Campora or other sources, or whathaveyou...
Your opinions and speculations are therefore irrelevant.
Quite frankly, they're boring too - especially when you start talking about yourself
Yawn.
For a very long time I just came here and read the news and the posts. I started posting because of Think's total disregard for the truth and there was nobody else here refuting his posts.
Jul 29th, 2014 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then Toby and a bunch of other personas showed up, each one with a different agenda and a “debate” style but all with the same battle plan; Drown out the reasoned voices with half truths, out right lies, diversion, fallacies and whataboutery.
I am anxiously anticipating the next default and the subsequent economic crash.
I hope it finally breaks the back of Peronism
139
Jul 29th, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't dispute that sometimes your posts have a lot of interesting content...even for a layman like myself....
....but sometimes you go off the deep end....
..the law of averages dictates you can't be right all of the time...take criticism gracefully....
I notice Griesa is back-peddling....did you foresee that...nothing to do with his criticism in the NY Times then...the article you dismissed as a paid one from a nobody that distinctly highlighted bond differences and his lack of understanding.
...lo and behold a short time later, he addresses it....coincidence or what?
No its not coincidence, Citi was at the hearing brought up the differences and he specified that his ruling only was meant for the bonds issued under NY Law.
Jul 29th, 2014 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He wrote the clarification so no-harm no-foul.
Nobody is infallible.
@141
Jul 29th, 2014 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you obviously don't read Venezuelan press much then. Apparently Chavez was less infallible than Jesus Christ. In fact, the appointment of a South American Pope was the result of the soul of Chavez entering Heaven and 'influencing' Christ.
Maduro actually said this in a public speech to the nation.
hmm...
The Truth is out there! (perhaps!)
:-)
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