MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentine farmers and government again clash over the 'preyed-upon decade”
Argentine Agriculture Minister Carlos Casamiquela and Federal Planning chief Julio De Vido rebuffed the criticism of the head of the Argentine Rural Society (SRA), Luis Etchevehere, who at the opening of the Palermo livestock show accused the government of President Cristina Fernandez of being “ignorant and arrogant”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThere's angry mobs with pitch forks waiting for Kristina when she returns.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't see much changing until next election.
Casamiquela said “the accomplishments achieved in the agricultural sector were useful to overcome the country’s deepest economic and social crisis”.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yeah, the bad thing is that the only ones who did the sacrifice was the agricultural sector, paying 35% in retentions.
now, why this useless govt did not charge the same tax to mining industry or fishery?
anyway, the worst thing is that a good part of that money got lost in corruption.
“Minister Casamiquela described Etchevehere’s remarks as “incomplete to say the least” ”
Jul 28th, 2014 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with that, I thought he was overly polite about TMBOA.
Etchevehere described CFK's government in a nutshell : ignorant and arrogant...as are those who choose to support it.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This year the first sentences of his speech where aimed at the cowardice and accomplice attitude of the opposition.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Jul 28th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no credible opposition is there? All I hear is if you are opposed to the government, you are a sepoy or traitor, is that not so?
Interesting chap. But will the opposition merely clap then walk away and shrug?
Jul 28th, 2014 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or will they listen and act?
Is there currently a coherent opposition? We don't seem to hear much about them. Is this because of Mercopress being slack or is it them?
The opposition are just cowards and spineless idiots that always get played by the Ks.
Jul 28th, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine electorate is basically statist and populist, so the anti Ks end up disagreeing with questions like corruption and authoritarianism of the Kirchnerites but not in economic policy.
They are just too scared of the government propaganda machine so the only take on issues that they feel safe with.
All these farm unions SRA, FAA, Coninagro and CRA should have joined in forces and created a federal productive party after defeating politically the Ks in 2008 after the 125 resolution was cancelled, instead of delegating their claims and unionists to the same opposition parties and traditional political structures that failed to tackle the power grab of Kirchnerism in the first place.
We need a Nigel Farage type of politician in Argentina to take up side down the whole mainstreem and political class conceptions up side down.
@6 There isn't much of a credible opposition. Half of them are Peronists PRETENDING to be opposition to succeed CFK, the other half are the Radicals and other assorted parties from the left who think they have a shot once CFK has to deal with the mess her own policies created, but they have no clue that as long as the Peronists remain the only party who is powerful enough to rule the country for a single term without getting overthrown by someone they have no chance to win. It doesn't help that they are trying to make a coalition when such goverments always fail eventually because of infighting.
Jul 29th, 2014 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0THE FAILED ARGENTINE BURGESS-SHIP.
Jul 29th, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many ignorants here, who don't know so much about our history, but who usually talk about the failures that we had as a nation, they often blame only on the irresponsable leaders who ruled argentina in different moments, but they always omit to mention the responsability of another very important social actor, which is economic power.
Argentina has always lacked of a patriotic burgess-ship, people who not only defend their interests, but who also have a great engagement in the development of the country.
In many countries like chile, u. s. a., brasil, uruguay, canada, australia, etc etc, burgess-ships not only defend their interests, despite all the critics that anybody can make them, they have also a deep engagement with the development of their nations.
However ours, is mostly a parasitary one, which has always been used to explote the statal advantages given by the different governments, but without making enough inverstments, in fact, when some leaders stop being functional enough, they do all they can, in order to brake their governments down.
You don't need to believe what i say, just remember that since 2007, argentina has had 7 economic runs, however, if we could resist this time, it's due to the economy is in a much stronger situation that what it was in other historic moments, like in 1989, when a financial coup d'etat broke raul alfonsin's government down.
On the other hand, i don't deny that perhaps, c. f.k's government commited corruption delits, in that case, her members will have to be judged and sentenced, and i won't defend them, however, those cretins from the rural society, don't have any moral authority to criticise nobody's corruption, in fact, according to the investigation of a judged, they enjoy a place which was sold in a fraudulent way, in 1991.
axel
Jul 29th, 2014 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In any country burgess class want to make money...
But I fully agree with this statement
“ However ours, is mostly a parasitary one, which has always been used to explote the statal advantages given by the different governments.”
I agree, that applies to Lazaro Baez, Cristobal Lopez, Ezkenzi, Eurnekian, Jorge Britos, Villa-Manzano, Urquia, and so many others thata have made billions by making business with the state out of corruption and lack of competion. Not to mention completely uncompetetive subsidised Argentine industry. It cost directly and indirectly round 30.000 USD per year each job in Tierra del Fuego that sample up spare parts. It costs more to move a truck from Mendoza to Rosario than its load by ship from Rosario to Shangai. People that can only survive with the restrictions of Moreno to imports and that now have costed us over 30 countries reprisals in the WTO.
Thank God that we have a one and only competetive sector to world standards which has been the backbone and only real support of the Argentine economy since 1880... And that is the farming sector which you owe so much too despite all the statist preassure it has suffered in the last years and has to cover up for so much of the rest of the countries ineficiency.
30 million dollars in the early 1990s for a block in Palermo seems perfectly fine for me. Far worse and more corrupt is buying a hectar in Santa Cruz fiscal lands at $7, 50 per hectare like the Cyclops and his wife and friends which now OWN Santa Cruz did.
Umm. ..
Jul 29th, 2014 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Burgess-ship”.
What is this?
Honestly, I have never seen this word construction before.
I am not mocking.
I have had the benefit of an excellent English education but never seen this before.
Did you mean 'bourgeois' a French word?
Sometimes the British use a French word because they do not have the equivalent. For example 'coup d'etat' (golpe de estado), simply because the concept is so foreign that a foreign word is necessary.
CABEZA.
Jul 31st, 2014 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My god, you can't be more obvious and hypocrite. It was absolutly expectable that you were going to criticise only those bussinessmen who are pro kirchnerist, who some some of them are accused of corruption, instead of criticising also those cretins from the rural society who you admire so much, who some of them are also accused of corruption.
I'm so glad that we are too different, every time i see the critics that you make for my lectures, i realise once and again that i am not wrong with my ideoligies, beside, it's obvious that we won't never agree eachother on our ideas. You miss the agrarian english colony of 100 years ago, and i want an industrial nation, with much more social equality than now. Anyway i respect your ideology, but the only one thing that bothers me, is the usuall too partial and hypocritical view that you have, every time you analize our problems.
Maybe for you 30 million dollars for a block in palermo is fine, but not for a judge, sorry, accept it or not, your friends aren't much better than what you criticise from some kirchnerist who are also accused of corruption.
ILSEN.
When i said burgess-ship, i wanted to say burguesia. Anyway although you didn't understand the word i typed, you are not stupid, and i have no doubt that you understood my lecture perfectly. Actualy nobody is stupid.
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