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UK only Muslim minister resigns protesting 'morally indefensible' policy in Gaza
Sayeeda Warsi, a senior minister in Britain's Foreign Office, resigned on Tuesday, accusing Prime Minister David Cameron's government of taking a “morally indefensible” approach to the conflict between Israel and Hamas. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“Warsi's resignation is embarrassing for Cameron, who has been accused of filling his government with too many middle-class white males. ”
Aug 06th, 2014 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Britain, even its ministers and gov’t are first Muslim than British. So in other words, she clearly got into the position not for a capacity but because she was a Muslim to play out the PC mainstream of that dictates the European slaves
In Kiwiland I remember a Conservative member getting hassled by a Maori tv presenter because there was not enough “brown faces” in the party… I guess Maoris are not allowed to get up their arses and enlist in the Conservative party if their beliefs fitted so??
Exactly what has Cameron’s stance in any way benefited Israel ?? In fact Israel is increasingly isolated in Europe.
“Our approach and language during the current crisis in Gaza is morally indefensible, is not in Britain's national interest and will have a long term detrimental impact on our reputation internationally and domestically,”
Aug 06th, 2014 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's kind of vague. Why will these things happen?
It sounds real poetic though.
What Warsi wants is that the whole world joins in and bully Israel and pressure it to drop its guard, bowing to the sensitive whims of Westerner, Arab and Latin-American lefties opinion makers.
Aug 06th, 2014 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Muslims may very well eventually conquer Britain and Europe for they are ever more condescending cowards involved in deep apathy, but ironic that they will not conquer Israel the little Sparta of the Middle East.
I see no reason why Muslims, Jews, Carribeans, Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese and women can't be in the Government provided they are there on merit, I am not happy with quotas, that to me is populist and should be considered so.
Aug 06th, 2014 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 She was the first female Muslim minister (ironically the first Muslim minister in the UK was Shahid Malik (international development minister appointed 2007), who beat Warsi in the 2005 general election).
Aug 06th, 2014 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given that the population of the UK is 3-5% Muslim, why is it surprising that some ministers are?
Disappointed to see one of the more sensible Argentinian posters is making racist comments. Fits neatly with the Amerindian genocide which is blithly dismissed.
Aug 06th, 2014 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nearly 400 innocent Gaza kids have been killed by Israeli bombs in the last few weeks, that is totally disproportionate and the British government should condemn it. Warsi is correct.
Not to worry. Warsi has always been a dipstick. Tried to teeter along a line between being muslim and a British “office” to which she wasn't elected. In fact, as far as it's possible to tell, she's never been elected to anything. Now she's buggered off. Won't be missed. Admittedly she did have many things against her. A pakistani, a muslim, a lawyer, a “Lady”, unelected. Thank heavens she's gone. Never let her back.
Aug 06th, 2014 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for @6, you can see the typical anti-Jewish, anti-Israeli hatred. Around 3,000 years of history. How much invasion and occupation? How much persecution? How many robberies, expulsions, murders? We can say, without fear of contradiction by anyone honest, that it's been several times the 6 million murdered during the Holocaust. Let there be no doubt. The little “taps” administered to the terrorists of Gaza are nothing compared to what Israel has suffered over the years. I'm trying to understand “400 innocent Gaza kids”. “Gaza” is possibly accurate. Although one might wonder how many non-Gazans find a way in. “kids” is a fun word. It implies happy laughing children with nothing better to do than running, jumping, swimming, playing with balls and so on. The reality is a little different. Junior terrorists under instruction. They progress from rocks until they can fire AK47s, missiles and so forth. Then there's that word “innocent”. Says who? There are no “innocents” in Gaza. The other day I saw an article where a Gazan bemoaned the bombing of his three-storey house in which he had invested hundreds of thousands of dollars. Deprived? Hard-pressed? Poor? Joke! How many real murders of Jews over 3,000 years? How about 3 billion? And you're concerned about the deaths of either 400 or 1,800? Try some REAL proportionality. Go for it, Israel. The whole of Britain should cheering and preparing to join the war against the jihadists.
#7 Some of my family are Jews. I am well aware of predjudices and I am not racist, I am saying that the Israeli response is totally disproportionate. As for racism, you constantly demonstrate that you are a prime example. And, the whole of Britain is not cheering with you because they see you clearly for what you are. On here you continue to be a source of amusement. Please keep it up!
Aug 06th, 2014 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 8 The Voice
Aug 06th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“On here you continue to be a source of amusement. Please keep it up!”
I disagree and in fact consider that remark more suited to yourself.
Yes, Conqueror sometimes goes off the deep end but is capable of very inciteful comments unlike you: we await your first with complete disinterest.
Hamas initiates a shooting war with Iranian weapons, the logical progression of events occurs and Britain's 'approach and language' is indefensible. Interesting.
Aug 06th, 2014 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's indefensible is the U.K.'s post colonial meddling in Palestine and the middle east and the resultant instability that have been the hallmark of the last 69 years of history. The west is slow to understand the hierarchy:
1. family
2. tribe
3. sect
4. religion
5. history
6. patronage
7. state
The lines drawn on a map are meaningless unless accommodation is made for the familial, religious and historical contexts that would otherwise extend beyond artificial borders. And national identity is not a unifying factor for peoples who view political governance as an impediment to the exercise of faith. Lastly, some peoples don't wish to exercise direct influence over the administration of governance but would rather defer to tribal or religious leadership. [News flash: As corporatism has largely undermined representative democracy as the dominant political model this choice may be more understandable for those lacking a recent history of an equitable society. And from a secular humanist perspective, how can the west reasonably seek to impose their value system on people who are uniformly repulsed by abortion, sexual aberration, agnosticism, divorce, bankruptcy, unwed pregnancy, gender nullification, etc.]
Israelis will determine the future of Palestine as others will determine the futures of the lands that they inhabit. Were it not for the interference of the U.K. and those similarly situated, Israel would now occupy a much larger footprint than is current.
It is easily arguable that the fomenting of state revolution, globalization of monetary policy and trade and the universalizing of liberal values are all inherently counter to the interests of peace. Lest it be forgotten or overlooked or discounted - in the absence of peace the quest for personal freedom is irrelevant.
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Aug 06th, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right this war is disproportionate Gaza is a artificial population that enjoys the highest aid support in the world ruled by a terrorist organization which is also aided by Iran and Israel is a successful developed democracy, in fact the only one in the Middle East.
Nobody cared about the civilians of Dresden, Hamburg and Berlin 70 years ago. Its was the good guys vs the bad guys.
“Nearly 400 innocent Gaza kids have been killed by Israeli bombs in the last few weeks,”
Aug 06th, 2014 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly.
And even worse, many of israel´s politicians / officials/ lawmakers have stigmatized the whole palestinian population as terrorists, promoting the death of all of them, kids and women included.
Like that piece of shit, Ayelet Shaked who called for a genocide.
It seems these jews have not learnt anything from their own genocide.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/why-im-on-the-brink-of-burning-my-israeli-passport-9600165.html
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Aug 06th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at it from this perspective
Ayelet Shaked Baroness Worsi
Computer engineer Lawyer
Elected Un elected- appointed under the base of ethnicity
(Positive discrimination)
Good looking Ugly wreck
Young Old
Intelligent Stupid
Great let her resign.... life will go on.
Aug 06th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most yanks are shit scared of criticizing anything Jewish, especially Israel, its unpatriotic. Warsi is unelected, and she has been shown to be less than honest on one occasion, that doesnt make her wrong. Its wrong and very stupid indeed to kill 1900 people, most of them totally innocent of anything in response to a handful of deaths in Israel. Northern Ireland showed that every death just bred more terrorism. Just think of the families of those innocent kids. Warsi was right to expose the hypocracy of Britains government.
Aug 06th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Northern Ireland started sending rockets into London, how long would it take the military to respond?
Aug 06th, 2014 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16
Aug 06th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a very good question. When the whole of the UK was under terrorist attack from the IRA, there was never any question of sending the RAF, Navy, heavy artillery and armour in to bombard the republican areas of Belfast and Derry, regardless of who might be in there.
It'c countries like Israel, Russia, and Serbia that go in for that kind of thing.
@HamasNiesund
Aug 06th, 2014 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Each missile interceptor costs Israel between 40.000 to 100.000 U$S...Each Qassam rocket costs just U$S 1000
Only this last month 2875 rockets were fired at Israel so go ahead and do the maths... And Israel has yet to keep on aiding Palestine!!!
The world is so full of stupid people.
So I wonder what would you choose; UNRWA can pay for Iron Dome or Israel blast to rubble the shit whole of Gaza...
I would have thought she was better staying put where she can talk directly to those in power rather than removing herself from the inner circle. I am not getting involved in the wider debates on this issue, (I only have one lifetime!), but my point is that I think she has made a personal and political mistake in resigning. Five minutes of self-righteous glory, only to now be outside of any influence. Whatever her 'agenda' surely she would be better off inside the tent? As a professional/ politicion/ whatever etc?
Aug 06th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 09
Aug 06th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do realise you are not talking to me....? I thought “The” Voice was on your side....
CD is right...she was the token Muslim..they then demoted her...she was being marginalised...not taking the hint and now they are probably relieved she has gone....
No more future embarrassments....
Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel is far more diplomatic than I am
Aug 06th, 2014 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnKu4kUHzK8&list=TLsya28uickHmFROvKSZgYkg_mlH7q6Yng
@18 Islamophobic Jihad
Aug 06th, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world's most ineffective rocket bombardment, and then we were all assured it was no big deal really when one fell near the airport.
But the truly remarkable thing about this whole episode is that Hamas has done exactly what Israel wanted, namely give it an excuse, while Israel has done exactly what Hamas wanted, namely expose itself for what it is.
@HamasNiesund
Aug 06th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because of IRON DOME, you damn retard…!!
You are like “Ohhh this evil Zionist apartheid regime that doesn’t allow the liberators and freedom fighters to kill more of their people!!!!”
@24 Argiehadi
Aug 06th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0IRON DOME. Yep, I heard of that. It's what makes the whole notion of Hamas' evil rocket bombardment sound like a pretext. I guess after it turned out that it wasn't Hamas that murdered the three kids in Hebron, and that Hamas was on the point of throwing on the towel having lost all its external support, the Israeli war party needed something else to prevent Palestinian unity emerging. And then when it turned out lots of people wouldn't swallow the rocket bombardment justification, it turned out to be tunnels.
Not that I'm a fan of Hamas, of course, I just recognise bullshit when I see it.
Seriously.....what did she expect the British stance to be...
Aug 06th, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Especially when the Brits had caused the problem in the first place...
The Balfour Declaration by the British government in 1917, enshrined in a League of Nations mandate in 1920, had said that a “national home for the Jewish people” would be founded in Palestine....
Pauledcron and others - so it is perfectly “civilised” for Hamas to site rockets and store missiles in and around civilain areas,schools and hospitals then?
Aug 06th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All things that are totally against the Geneve Convention.
Please answer me on this?
What were the Israielis to do? - Leave those missiles etc there to be fired at innocent Israeli kids in kibbutzes ina week or two?
Please answer me on this?
What options did the Israelis have? Those Palestinian families KNEW those weapons were there.
Ok the Isralies hit some places in error - sadly that is a fact of life in war in built up areas.
Who started it all anyway ? - Please answer me on this.
24. HamasNiesund
Aug 06th, 2014 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I already told you it cost millions to upkeep Iron dome, plus all the bunker and early alarm systems that disrupt the daily lives of 74% of the Israeli population. Plus the tunnels that have come to light now as the conflict escalated.
The 7 civilians killed by rocket attacks where the responsibility of the Israeli state to defend.
And what will happen when in time more accurate rockets arrive from Iran and Syria??
After being humiliated by Israel what more help does Fatah need ?? But if the people of Gaza keep on supporting and voting terrorist and call their fallen “martyrs” there is nothing Israel can do.
@27
Aug 06th, 2014 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to be operating on some form of logic that goes Israel good, therefore Hamas bad. Consequently, Hamas bad, therefore Israel good.
I don't see it myself. It looks to me rather that they're both trying to do exactly the same thing to each other, it's just that one side is considerably more successful at it than the other. So the question is just which is the biggest asshole. And there's a simple rule of thumb for that : the one that's killed 400 children, and then goes on to claim it's all somebody else's fault. Sometimes you'd think they were Argentine.
@ 26 Islander1
Aug 06th, 2014 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Who started it all anyway ?”
Mohammad (faeces and urine be upon him) the paedophile prophet of Allah (double ditto) who ‘invented’ [more accurately brought together the disparate fractions] the new religion of Islam in circa 622 A.D.
He was a real exponent of paedophilia, murder, rape forgiveness for the man and stoning to death of the woman and obviously an icon for the nutters who follow this bat-shit mad 'religion’ even today.
Many on here talk about critics of Islam as being ‘racists’ which is laughable because Islam is NOT racist in any way, shape or form: the only thing anybody of any race has to do is to embrace ‘the faith’ (submit to God) and that’s it.
It is however just like a real life “Hotel California”, the song by The Eagles, you can check in but you can NEVER leave unless you are dead and these nutters will kill you if you try.
The Quran, far from being a book of peace is a book of out and out death for anyone who does not bow completely and utterly to its edicts. It is all old testament.
Without the Muslim scum there would have been no crusades, no Saladin and the death of the Crusaders at Hattin and throughout history to this very day the spectre of death that is Islam would not exist.
There may of course been some other bat-shit crazy Looney Toon religious leader among us to fill the void of religious madness that still infests the planet.
DIE, SANDNIGGERS! DIE!
Aug 06th, 2014 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 028.
Aug 06th, 2014 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You seem to be operating on some form of logic that goes Israel good, therefore Hamas bad. Consequently, Hamas bad, therefore Israel good. ”
Exactly. For once you are right in something HamasNiesund.
Yes I want the good to win over the evil rather that the evil impose their “peace” on the good. Because that is what you are ultimately advocating for
Look at all the things Israel is not only the only democracy in the region with full rights to women, gays, religious minorities but it has also given to humanity in terms of medical research, software development, scientists , water treatment, made agricultural land out of sand, etc. All this has been done in 70 years and in constant threat and Arab hostility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqo8mu5u8U
In contrast what have your Islamists cousins and Palestinians ever given to the world??
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Aug 07th, 2014 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0In contrast what have your Islamists cousins and Palestinians ever given to the world??
0123456789.....Arabic numerals....
...The alphabet....
Mathematics...
Astronomy....
Medicine...
Literature...Art...Architecture...
32.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, that’s most of stolen and incorporated and catalogued information and knowledge of previous Middle Eastern civilizations like the Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans and Persians plus the numbers were actually developed in India.
Most of it is reminiscent of former Alexander's Empire and Hellenistic culture.
But we can go to look for stuff the sandniggers may call theirs over a millennium ago or wonder Israeli achievements in the last 70 years. Im for the latter.
@31,33
Aug 07th, 2014 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is similar to the “argument” that Latin America is populated by a bunch of murderous, thieving dagoes who never contributed anything to the world except some dance moves and numerous examples of how not to run an economy.
34. HamasNiesund
Aug 07th, 2014 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhh “dagoes” that’s OK, I’m not call you a racist nor make a fuss about it. I don’t win an argument by victimizing myself, I win by logic and reason.
The problem with dagoes is that it includes Italians… And if we have to start mentioning Italian inventions and things they have contributed to humanity I would need far more than 2000 characters.
But Catholicism in the XX century doesn’t have a habit of producing nutty priests that go on about trying to impose their religion upon others by force nor having people blowing themselves up nor kids brainwashed since kindergarten.
Btw Argetina before the times of Peron wasnt that bad as it comes to inventions
You do understand that I wasn't actually making that argument, right? Only pointing out its existence and similarity to some of yours.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its the simple truth Israel in 70 years of existance has given humanity far more than Argentina has in 200 years of existance.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 037
Aug 07th, 2014 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a ridiculous statement.....the Jews have been around for thousands of years....the rich American Jews have poured money into Israel....
The Jews have always been good at making money....the term Usury is synonymous with Jews...
The USA created Israel's achievements....
Its the simple truth..... Argentina was the 4th richest country in the world when Israel didn't even exist. There is no excuses.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even Israel with 7 MM people has more listed companies in the NYSE of the US than Britain, Japan or Germany and Australia combined.
...and it's all down to the US...they have created Israel's economy.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This has been common knowledge for years....
It's a good investment for the Yanks....keeping a stooge right bang in the middle of the Arabs....
You can create anything if you throw enough money at it.....and the Yanks threw plenty.
The only country in the Middle-East with nuclear weapons...how did that come about...
Ask their sponsor....
Do you really think for a moment that Microsoft or HP, Intel invest in Israel because the US government tells them to do so???
Aug 08th, 2014 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hahaha...WTF would big American companies be investing in a desert in the middle of no-where...that has no natural resources and has to import all raw materials...
Aug 08th, 2014 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suggest you look at all the American Tech companies that have invested into a troubled war torn country and try to think why....instead of wiki fact finding....
Without the USA Israel would have been as poor as Palestine.....
There is no comparison to Argentina, the Yanks do their best to destabilise SA..after all why would they want a huge neighbour with vast resources and twice the population as themselves.....competition and a threat springs to mind...
You are talking out of your arse voice.
Aug 08th, 2014 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0IT takes very little resources. It takes much in human resources. Other IT powers like South Korea, Ireland, Japan or Taiwan are not resource rich countries. Its different when it comes to China and India.
There are not very many countries that produce a lot of engineers per capita.
Most countries produce sociologists, lawyers, psychoanalysts, doctors and such. Not many go into hard science.
You know fuck all about Argentina, the US in fact has no policy in regards to South America at all. It never had any real interest in the region.
@39
Aug 08th, 2014 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0And how about British, German, Japanese and Australian stock exchanges?
44. You are being just stupid. Israel only has sand and 7MM people to have the 3 most trading companies in Nasdaq is a remarkable achievement
Aug 08th, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@46
Aug 08th, 2014 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It certainly is, but it's also irrelevant.
God just told me I can have your car. Most likely it's a piece of shit, but I'll fix it up and put some new tyres on. You'll just to have to STFU then.
The problem is that the Muslims started attacking jewish colonizers.... Why didn't the arabs free themselves of the Ottomans and British??? They thought the Jews were going to be a walk over ??? Ask the monkey that is doing your daughter....(you can have my car, but not my family, nor me culture and identity)
Aug 08th, 2014 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They lost, 70 years have gone by. Israel is one of the most succesful countries in the world, Gaza/WB are a shithole as the rest of the muslim world is stuck in the middle ages. Move on...
Still with the sexual thing, huh? And I thought that was just foam on your lips.
Aug 08th, 2014 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You dont seem to be terribly well informed on the relations between the Arabs, Ottomans and Brits, but for once at least you've used the right word, namely “colonizers”. And what could be more modern and forward looking than colonizers who believe their version of the Sky Fairy gave them the place 2000 years ago?
What sexual thing?? What are you on about??
Aug 08th, 2014 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Arabs in the holy lands lived for centuries under the boot of the Turks.
Why didn't they up rise against them ?? Ohh I know why because the Sultan would have massacred the whole lot of them... Ask the Armenians. They wouldn't have put up with the same kind of nonsense of having to launch a pacifying campaign each 2 years or so. Look at ISIS walking and massacring nothern Irak, how many of you lefties PC wankers protested against the genocide of christians and kurds over the past few weeks??? Ohhh no Israel seems to be the problem... Grow up you stupid fool.
You lost Johnny Mohammed… Now suck it up.
Let's not go through the sexual thing again. By your repeated references to it we established already on an earlier thread that you have some knd of issue there, frustration or inadequacy or repression or something, It doesn't really matter which, they all tend to come out in the form of irrational extremist politics.
Aug 09th, 2014 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know where you get this 'leftist' thing, by he way. I'm just a small 'c' conservative with a bullshit detector. One of the things that sets it off is what I have come to call the Nostril fallacy, namely the idea that it's perfectly OK for X to do something, because Y did the same or worse. So it's OK for example, for Netanyahu to bomb indiscriminately civilian areas if he thinks his adversaries are hiding there, because ISIS is worse. This is just plain nuts. There's probably somebody else arguing somewhere that it's perfectly OK for Assad to murder and terrorise civilians because Netanyahu does it too. In fact you could even argue (though I'm not going to) that Assad has a greater justification, in that he really does face an existential threat, whereas the only real threat Netanyahu faces is of being outflanked on the right by an even bigger asshole than he, or the risk of Palestinian unity engendered by the weakening of Hamad leading to a new peace process. But that's OK because even if Assad isn't worse, ISIS is.
Speaking of which, the reason there is less protest re ISIS is obvious. There is no confusion about ISIS. Nobody is trying to convince me that ISIS is a bastion of Western values in a hostile sea, my government doesn't consider ISIS an ally, it isn't selling them arms and supporting them diplomatically. But I'm glad to see we're going to support the American air strikes and air drops, it's the least we can do after the disastrous mess we have caused in the Middle East.
Finally, you're obviously poorly informed about the history of that region. Try looking up 'Arab revolt' sometime.
Let me explain retard simply and clearly… Bring your mother so she can explain you because you seem to need a lot of help.
Aug 09th, 2014 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its the simple truth. Your women want to be treated like cattle (the ones who are not slutty of course and end up cut in pieces)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343954/100-000-Islam-converts-living-UK-White-women-keen-embrace-Muslim-faith.html
And the ones who don’t …. Well they just gate rapped and your gov’t and media and mainstream society looks the other way…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1343954/100-000-Islam-converts-living-UK-White-women-keen-embrace-Muslim-faith.html
Way to go champ!!!
Don’t worry my cock 8000 miles away doesn’t seem to work because the Guardian says so…
You talk about Israel been disproportionate… Only by 2011 there had been over a quarter million of displaced people in Syria… 160.000 total death toll according to Human Rights watch. Have you seen pictures of Aleppo and Homs ?? Gaza looks like a tourist destination spot in comparison to the Syrian cities
Netanyahu killed +1 k gazeans where the terrorist use human shields in a far more densely populated area… And remember Israel doesn’t need to take responsibility for Gaza, Hamas does.
You say there is no confusion about ISIS… And you may be right. They all British muslims want to join ISIS and aprove of jihadism and terrorism.
@51
Aug 09th, 2014 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There you go again with Nostril logic, completely oblivious you're proving my point.
And meanwhile, by your own logic, all Argentines are surely murderous, thieving Peronists, if one ever was.
Way to go, champ.
Is it really that hard for everybody to get laid over there, or is it just sex-obsessed assholes who're missing out?
FFS In what way are you proving any point?? ..... Hamas, I dont know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for your denial.
Aug 09th, 2014 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right blame it on my sexual issues, blame it on Argentina and the Peronist. Make it a matter of getting laid or not.
You are such a stupid retard in denial.
Can't you tell when I'm taking the Mickey out of your own attitudes?
Aug 09th, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Speaking of denial, try this:
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/gerard-oregan/state-of-denial-is-a-cancer-at-the-very-heart-of-israel-30494169.html
Look when I say as I have done in the other threads that your country is over flooded with ghettos, sharia gangs, honor killings, gangs of Muslims trafficking gangs and men that take advantage of your (yes) loose women, neighborhoods and cities that don’t even talk in English, schools and kindergartens serving Muslim special menus for kids, sharia de facto courts, radical priest preaching un challenged, appalling polls of Muslims approving terrorism denying 9/11 was a Muslim job, rapid demographic and cultural change…..All that has a point to all this, nothing to do with my issues, peronism or Argentina, though I know you are just trying to divert the subject….
Aug 09th, 2014 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It means that you have no right to go and tell Israel to go soft on Muslims. You have called them an apartheid regime in your twitter account… And they are damn right in pursuing these policies. Other alternative is the mess of your own country. And you don’t have the balls to tackle the issue other than just pathetically look the other way divert and deny like you have being doing so for the last week or so.
If I was Israeli I would be saying this exact same thing to you.
@55
Aug 10th, 2014 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just shows what balls wehave in he UK, that we're not scared to walk down he street under these conditions.
You're actually behind the times with your hate figures. These days it's Roma, Bulgarians and Romanians at the top of the list. It's been Muslims before, and West Indians, and Irish, and Jews, and Huguenots, and French, and Spanish and pretty much anybody else you could conceive of. In the 60s the streets were supposed to be foaming with blood. The methodology is always the same, it involves focusing on the extreme loony end of the extremely loony end of the bell curve, a if that's all there was. The Daily Mail is quite adept at this, and has been ever since it notoriously supported Hitler in the 1930s. The methodology tends to work quite well with insecure people whose psyche is already susceptible to messages of fear and hatred, who don't have personal experience to fall back upon, and in a few cases who are the products of societies which have themselves been the subject of some kind of ethnic cleansing and don't know any better.
When people like this get into power they generally try to create some kind of ethno-state, based on race or religion, where not all citizens or inhabitants enjoy the same level of rights. States of his type tend to be in permanent conflict with their neighbours and to have a short life span due to their internal contradictions. Apartheid isn't an entirely accurate term for this, but it's close enough.
Except that Britain was a great assertive country with balls and character back then. Not a bunch of condescending cowards in denial like you. You are being completely disproportionate, none of those immigration waves paralleled to the numbers and massive cultural ethnical shifts you are suffering from today. Again this was your choice. You say what it is politically correct, but nobody who really loves their country and culture accepts that so lightly, ask the Kurds, the Azerbaijani, Armenians, and Jews, etc. See they fight for their land, identity and yes even ethnicity and religion. I don’t think that makes them racists.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It’s just natural. You have being brainwashed that it is not. You are brainwashed to think that people who see the neighborhoods completely changed to the point they are unrecognizable and feel like aliens in their own country and end up moving away, the problem is with them, its somehow their fault, their insecurity, racism, issues, etc….because the guardian, channel4 or the Huffington Posts said so. In fact the people -libtards- who support this kind of stupidity tends to be out of touch with the streets.
That’s why I do feel sorry for you. Or rather the people that see their country just being given away.
@57
Aug 10th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's what Galtieri thought in 1982.
With the exception that it is not Argies that are blowing themselves up no randomly killing veterans on your streets, nor 70% of cases of grooming conducted on your women, nor imposing sharia courts in your cities, preaching hate in mosques and I can go on forever.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina nor “Zionism” is not a challenge to your way of life, family and cultural ethnical and religious identity.
You feel safe attacking from your twitter account the Argentines, but you are obviously scared shitless of the Muslims. That’s why you rather prefer to look the other way. I’m starting to wonder if that is a way to divert your lack of patriotism pride and manhood… By constantly looking to little nothing stupid buffoonish things CFKs govt does.
I understand.
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Aug 10th, 2014 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Talk about missing the point. Do I really have to spell it out for you? The point s not about Argies or anybody else blowing themselves up, the point is that you are making exactly the same error of judgement with respect to British culture and identity as Galtieri did. You must have your head really far up your arse not to have learned better.
Here's a cool things about Muslims though: you can pretty much guarantee they're not going to be drunk by lunchtime.
Poor fool confusing a conventional war with asymmetric warfare and demographic wars in the XXI Century.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don’t you understand that you have wiped out and sidelined your loyal British low class, the backbone of any country where workers, laborers, soldiers, football players, farmers, etc come from??? The ones that are still alive and fighting a losing war like the EDL are called extremists and put into public juries to be abused and put in the same level than this Ajmed Choudry or what ever his name is...
So there you go. Nowbody is going to be able to defend you when the SHTF and they will be coming for you. I hope you live long enough to see this happen.
There's no need to put the EDL in the dock when you can put them on TV.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aYd9qbRz2fc
I'm quite happy to place my faith in the British Army instead. After all, 1500 of them in the Falkland islands are enough to terrify an entire continent, without so much as a shot fired.
In fact a lot of British armed forces are joining the EDL.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbnm4jGTOD8
Yes, the Iranian “Press Tv” is very selective when it comes to feeding PC libtards. What I just see is a common low class British youngster that clearly knows what’s going on in the streets. His a limited chap with no education and they have problems to communicate so therefore all the middle class lefties (that apparently most preffer to live in whith hoods) and politically correct media, lawyers and politicians will cut him into pieces.
What a disgusting country, that discriminates against and bullies its own youth.
Thats rather unfair. We're such PC libtards, we even allow morons to vote. I'll let you know if they ever manage to elect anyone.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you know that Tommy Robinson (0ne of several aliases), founder of the EDL, recanted, declared he'd been wrong about Muslims all along, and was later jailed for mortgage fraud? Tommy could at least put two words together, though.
I don’t know about the politics or whatever is going on there like who said this and who said that. I do think that being in charge of the EDL is an easy job against the massive apparatus against them and the stupidity, apathy, cowardice and blindness of a Stockholm syndrome society.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do think that the fellow in Tv you linked is more a man and a patriot that you will ever be...
I wouldn't have thought being in charge of the EDL would be all that hard, there's only about 10 people in it. But now Tommy is in he pokey, maybe you could apply? I'm sure they'd welcome an approach from an Argie in particular.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dont see anything rascist nor violent in them after watching their page.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are un educated, low class, un emplyeed kids with a point to make...They are not asking for money they are asking for a country back in other words. They need somebody smart and educated but charismatic and determined enough to pull them through.
But I think they I fighting a losing war. After looking at the demographics, mainstream Brit mentality, media machine and talking to PC retards like yourself Im concinced that they dont stand a chance poor fellows and Britain will become a Muslim country in the near future.
They need a Fuhrer, then? Or a Caudillo maybe? There was a guy called Mosley tried that once back in the 1930s, but all he got for his trouble was his arse kicked. The thing is these kind of arrangements are contrary to our national identity and cultural values. We're keen to protect those, obviously, and indeed you could go so far as to say we have a patriotic fervor for putting down fascist dictators, as many could tell you. Now there's something to be patriotic about!
Aug 10th, 2014 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bla bla bla ... You are still are retarded coward. And that guy is a more a man and a patriot you will ever be or have being.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look if you had any so called patriotic fervor for putting down fascist dictators, you would overthrough these massive PC mainstreem structure that dominates you from lawyers, politicians, media channels and clerics and gangs in the streets. Those are the nazis.
So you keep telling me, but it doesn't get any more true with repetition. What you have there is a neurosis that isn't contagious.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I already have signs that you are already accepting bit by bit what I have being saying. It is sinking in even though you are still in denial of course.
Aug 10th, 2014 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol, where did you see those signs, painted on the side of a flying saucer?
Aug 11th, 2014 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I’ve seeing you flounder many times already.. For example that last attempt to divert to Argentina and the Falklands is pretty pathetic.
Aug 11th, 2014 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.
....Or that attempt “Ohh who cares if Britain transforms itself into a Caliphate but we are still good and patriotic about knocking down dictators”.
PMSL on that one
But I would be a sadist if I continue to physiologically walking over you… Its feel like an Israeli aircraft pounding way over Gaza and you running from one building to the other throwing feeble rocket attacks at me and making false accusations of genocide, racism and cruelty...
Good analogy of the situation.
Bottom line: Israel will decide for itself, no matter who resigns, laments or bangs the drum in the UK.
Aug 11th, 2014 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@72 &@73
Aug 11th, 2014 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jeez, get a room guys, and bang it out there. ..
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Aug 11th, 2014 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looool.. Nice try. At the beginning of this I didn't have you down as a complete fuckwit, but it appears I was certainly wrong about that. My bad. You've obviously got some major difficulty getting to grips with the world as it is, so you've gone for he simplified cartoon version of it instead. You're only able to defend this Argentine style, by endlessly regurgitating the exact same thing like you're loading from ROM. Along the way you've ended up confirming much of what I've said, without realizing that's what you've done, and missed some points that are as blatant and obvious as a dayglo aircraft carrier. (There's yet another example in your last message, but I bet you couldn't find it with the Hubble Space Telescope).
All this being said, I do think it was rather brave of you to repeatedly draw attention to your issues of sexual anxiety, especially in an environment like this where the wicked will cruelly take the piss out of you for it.
← Doesn’t care any longer of your feeble nonsense wordings and lies
Aug 11th, 2014 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are super owned by now.
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Aug 12th, 2014 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Britain will become a Muslim country in the near future”.
With an estimated muslim population of 5 Million out of a total population of 64 million, when is this going to happen ?
We had gone by this debate and I explained with numbers in another thread this case. When you start to consider birth rates, average age, immigration rates It all comes round to 2050-2060 or 2070.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There will be a whole generation of British and Europeans that will retire and die out having left only one kid per couple or less.
So the real cultural clashes will be felt when Muslims are near about 20% of total population. But it would have already become to late by
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