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“Malvinas dialogue” demands Argentine Patagonia governor in Wales
Underlining the close links between Wales and Argentine Patagonia, where many Welsh immigrants settled for the first time 150 years ago, Chubut governor Martin Buzzi called on the British government “to open a dialogue on the Malvinas Islands”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis is not as important as the fact next Friday president Kirchner will demand Europe lift all it's agricultural restrictions or she will nuke any Mercosur-EU trade deal.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am glad Argentina is DEMANDING the EU, the US banks, and the UK, as well as demanding Brazil.
Shows it is tough against those bullies.
Only 32 years ago you were killing the British in the FALKLANDS, we have long memories. “ It's an example that contrasts and refutes the propaganda from some sectors of Malvinas Islands residents that there is a hostile attitude from Argentina, which is obviously completely false”
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0You mean you did not attack the FALKLANDS in 1982
You didn't threaten to take oil companies to court
You have not threatened oil company executives with letters
You have not banned ships flying the FALKLANDS flag
You have not intimidated cruise passengers
Ah the list goes on.
Ms Castro lies or is it selective memory?
@1 I thought you wanted nothing to do with the rest of the world?
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0How Castro can speak the words she is quoted here as saying, without them choking her, shows she is a liar of the highest order. Squatters? Don't remember that? What about the cruise liner harassment? That didn't/doesn't happen? Threats against the Falkland islanders for developing their oil industry? Nope, she doesn't remember that either. The list goes on but if Castro says it didn't happen who are any of us to believe they actually happened?
There speaks the Voice (#1) of reason, friendship and mutual understanding that Castro and the other muppet are talking about… sounds more like hossing Sid the sly snake trying to lure an unwary rodent into its grip.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I will give you the benefit of the doubt, obviously there is a translation misnomer here. Argentina DEMANDS, how can they DEMAND anything, they are so backward. They may ASK for restrictions to be lifted but I am sure they are there for a very good reason.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0”It's an example that contrasts and refutes the propaganda from some sectors of Malvinas Islands residents that claim there is a hostile attitude from Argentina, which obviously is completely false”, Castro insisted.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Err… burning tyres on the quay in Ushuaia, physical and verbal harrassment of British cruise ship pensioner passengers in Buenos Aires, banning of Falklands flagged vessels, threats against those carrying out oil exploration, sending 11,000 heavily armed troops to invade, using the Falklands post office as a shithouse, sackkng the British Embassy, sacking travel agents, a constant stream of threats calling islanders okupas ???
Bollocks!
I think they must all be “ crackheads ” do you think they believe the bollocks they say, have to toe the party line or get booted out of the party and no income. Bunch of HYPOCRITES the lot of them.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps this is an important issue after all.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Surely this shows that the presence of British people in Patagonia means that spiritually it belongs to the British and the Argentine government needs to enter dialogue into handing it back.
After all, its close to the falklands so therefore must belong to us. there are British people there and their language is spoken, so its ours
Stamp stamp of my foot, it is ours, it is part of our history, we will educate our children to demand its return
Sound familiar
The British embassy in Buenos Aires was sacked?
Aug 07th, 2014 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0The effort Argentina put in to trying to steal the Falklands could be better directed I think.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously if you want them then get a better army and hope it doesn't take Buenos Aires.
@1 - Argentina can try for sure although nuking the deal is somewhat of a overly dramatic statement.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mercosur is a failed organisation anyway so should this not happen then the EU can simply use another vehicle to achieve its trade aims.
Is everything that comes out of Alicia's mouth a lie, certainly seems like it on here. Bruzzi, talks have been offered but only if there is a representive of the Falkland Islands government present, it's your government that refused to speak to us.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well why don't they TALK to the islanders, also, don't they think that the Welsh will remember their troops being killed by the Argentinians.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do they seriously think that the “Welsh” will support them in their propaganda exercise?
#1
If Argentina“nukes” the trade deal then the separate countries will make deals of their own with the EU leaving Argentina looking in the window feeling sorry for it's self....AGAIN !
the welsh don't support the Argentines, just ask Simon Weston.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those Welsh that went to Patagonia did so because they did not want their language and culture influenced and corrupted by English. That was the reason the avoided Australia, America, Canada and New Zealand.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Result? it was influenced and corrupted by Spanish.
Not the cleverest of outcomes.
Fucking idiots, the lot of them!!!!
“It's an example that contrasts and refutes the propaganda from some sectors of Malvinas Islands residents that claim there is a hostile attitude from Argentina, which obviously is completely false”, she insisted.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of codswallop.
Do they ever say such lies in a public forum where they can be put right.
This BIG lie has already been corrected by previous posters.
But seriously, do the Argies think if they repeat lies often enough someone important will actually believe them.
@1. Yes please. Let me explain something. If there is, heaven forbid, an EU-mercosur trade agreement, origin labels will be of great importance. At the very best, I might buy something originating in Paraguay if I could be satisfied that only Paraguay benefited. in any case of doubt, mercosur can go whistle. In fact, I might be willing to pay MORE to avoid a mercosur “product”. Let's hope the whole of Europe follows suit. But there is a possibility. How about if mercosur pays consumers to buy its products? Example: mercosur wants to sell a product for £2.00 (or equivalent). Little mercosur offers consumer £5.00 to buy the product.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually there exists evidence to support medieval Welsh (Magog) in the Americas pre-Colombian.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some Native American languages have heavy similarities with medieval Welsh.
That explains my nans neighbour then, “Dai the Apache.”
Aug 07th, 2014 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0There was me thinking he was just “Tupp.”
Argentina wants what it cannot have, at least for another few decades
Aug 07th, 2014 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0democracy , trust , respect , Freedom of whatever??
so in the meantime they will just have to put up with,
moaning , screaming , crying , bragging , distrustfulness , shame,
debts , CFK , KFC , lolol
Dear Argentina, just because you FEEL that the Falklands are yours, doesn't meant they are. I feel after 15 odd years, I deserve to win the lottery, doesn't mean will.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for that cretin, Alicia Castro. Well, that lump of lard has always got something to say. Problem is it's usually all false, full of untruths or just straight out lies. God help her if I ever come across her in London, I'll show her respect and friendship by plunging a knife in to her back as hard as I can.
Keep talking Argies, it's all you're good for. Well that and not being able to pay your bills LOL.
And there you have it, so much negative press regarding Argentina and it's lack of pot to piss in, hence, more talk about Falklands and dialogue and national cause. Y'know, the usual blah blah blah distraction technique.
Having visited most of the towns in Argentina that supposedly have a welsh connection I can say it is a very tenuous one indeed. A few welsh flags, one or two tea shops and a few welsh names in towns that are otherwise typically Argentinian. The Welsh bloodlines thinned out to nothing decades ago. A shop owner in one such town in chebut told me she did not know any welsh speakers. It's a rather unconvincing connection they are trying to make.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are lots of people of German descent in Cordoba and Bariloche .
Aug 07th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why not open a “ dialogue ” about taking over Bavaria ?
Better still , why not start a dialogue about returning Chaco , Misiones and Corrientes to Paraguay ? Or half of Salta and Jujuy to Bolivia ? Or Patagonia to Chile ?
Memorandum of Understanding? Written in Welsh presumably. Anyone got an English translation? Perhaps one should be sent to Ms Castro to show what she was signing
Aug 07th, 2014 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh yeah about that agreement signed in 1865 with the Welsh settlers and the Argentine government. It was unilaterally abrogated by the Argentine government just 35 years later.
Does that strike a familiar chord on the manner the Argentine government regards agreements and treaties?
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Aug 07th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25 fucking sick describes your mental health exactly Snotty. No speeky Chinese any more?
Aug 07th, 2014 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25
Aug 07th, 2014 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you saying that the agreement signed between the Welsh settlers and the Argentine government was not broken by the Argentine government 35 years after it was signed?
Every time that the Junta agreed with proposals put by Al Haig in 1982 to prevent the fighting in the Falklands, it went back on them as soon as Haig got back onto his aircraft.
Argentina signed a treaty of perfect friendship with Great Britain in 1850 and still forgets that it made no protest over the Falkland Islands whatsoever.
You just don't stick to agreements, but I don't see Argentina benefitting from this?
Buzzi and Castro, just like CFK , insist on flogging a dead horse. And the fact that they try to a Welsh 'connection' is bloody pathetic.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9, not in BA you dickhead, the Falklands, in 1982. And regarding your statement in #1, that CFK intends nuking any Mercosur -EU trade agreement, just goes to show, once again, why the Mercosur might be better off if Argentina were kicked out.
Funny, Patagonia and Wales are acting like Romeo and Juliet. They love each other but are restricted by their families who hate each other.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How does one articulate “piss off” in Welsh?
Aug 07th, 2014 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Running water, perhaps.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Dialog” like the one they have been having with the funds they owe money to.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No more futile or pointless exercise on the planet than “dialog” with this Argy gov.
“that claim there is a hostile attitude from Argentina, which obviously is completely false”
BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Seriously not in the real world.
She obviously doesn’t read some of the malviNazis remarks on here, or the comments of the rest of her government, they insist the Islanders don’t exist and have no rights anyway.
Not to mention an economic blockade and attempted incursions into sovereign territory. Harassment of cruise ships anybody.
Laughable comment by someone who is clearly completely deluded.
Remembering what they said when she asked “chicken or pasta” must have been very hard work for her.
@1 Alistair Nigel (EUian)
She will undoubtedly nuke any EU trade deal involving Argentina.
However she will not stop “a trade deal” going ahead without Argentina, that much is patently obvious.
More breaches of international law, a visiting Argentinean government officials iare taking end runs around around Britons obligation, namely article 73 of UN Charter. Also a breach of UNGA's ”Non-interference in the internal affairs of States. Why don't the British do what is right, and declare this person none-persona grata like Canada did to De Gaulle, when he stuck his nose into our internal affairs.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0' 30 gordo1
Aug 07th, 2014 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The same: piss off according to Google translate.
That governor was only doing his job: obeying orders for people who take any opportunity to say “Malvinas”.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A sovereignty claim without a legal case is 'illegitimate.'
Aug 07th, 2014 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To find a “Welshman” in Chubut nowadays is like finding a needle in a haystack.
Aug 07th, 2014 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The rest is just non news.
Hopefully the Hedge Funds will seize Alicia's government car - the cars from all their embassies, actually.
Aug 08th, 2014 - 03:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Funny to see them taking the tube, waiting for taxis, renting a Ford Mondeo.
Alicia could do with walking a bit more...
You would have thought the burning and killing of the brave welshmen on the sir Gallahad might have warranted an apology first but apparently not. Castro ugly on the outside and on the inside.
Aug 08th, 2014 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@38
Aug 10th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In which case perhaps the Falkland Islands Government will pay for a rickshaw to take Alicia about?
Dear Alicia,
We know how much you seek dialogue, so to that effect, the FIG is generously sponsoring (out of our oil money )this luxurious rickshaw to transport you to your favourite London shoe shops until your government can afford a limo for you again, when it comes out of default during the next 25 years.
To enable dialogue with your would- be subjects, we have arranged that a hairy arsed FIDF member needing training for the march and shoot competition, will pull your rickshaw and answer any questions you may have about the Falklands, thus satisfying your demand for dialogue.
Love and Kisses,
FIG
To open “a dialogue on malvinas islands” in malvinazi argot means
Aug 14th, 2014 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0occupation- just that, nothing less.
Philippe
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