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Brazil's Truth Commission looking into foreign companies helping the military regime crackdown on 'subversives'
Newly-discovered documents suggest big international companies aided Brazil’s military regime in its war against ‘subversives’ and union activists. Academics and human rights activists have long believed that local and multinational companies helped Brazil’s military regime in their crackdown on “subversives.” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesDon't you just love the stupidity and lack of forward thinking that the so called 'rulers' in SA get up to?
Aug 11th, 2014 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dilma started this backward looking trouble making “Truth Commission” which has people in it seemingly with the attitude 'don't confuse me with facts; I've already made my mind up'.
The ‘evidence’ is nothing but a few lists on plain paper otherwise they would know where the crap had come from and would have already published it to put pressure on the dastardly “companies”. What a cretin this ‘lawyer’ is.
But hang on! São Paulo has stupid people all of its own.
“Brazilian women's rights advocates denounce Sao Paulo state's requirement for prospective female teachers to undergo gynaecological test”
You couldn’t make this up, not in a million years. Even with Dumb Dilma as President, who is apparently a woman (though some have other views) “The education department of Sao Paulo state requires female prospective teachers to undergo a Pap smear in order to prove they are free of a variety of cancers, or to present a doctor's statement verifying they have not been sexually active.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/11023395/Brazil-anger-over-gynaecological-tests-for-teachers.html
No male teachers are to be examined to see whether they have STD’s of course, only the women.
Brazil a First World country?
Not while they still have a murdering commie bastard as a president and subjugate their females to tests that would be lauded by the whack-job Muslims.
The 1964 military coup destroyed our economic and social development for 40 years. Brought us to the status of colony of the United States, and puppet of European countries.
Aug 11th, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The West interfered with our democracy and institutions! The United States threatened us with the presence of their naval strength in our coast!
In these past 30 years we have rebuilt much of what was lost. We are also taking steps to ensure that foreign forces will never have the power of intimidation over Brazil.
The only desire that we have with respect to our Western “allies” is that they stay away from my country, far away!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZwyAix77AA&list=LLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A
The Telegraph article does say that men are required to have prostate exams! All very strange.
Aug 11th, 2014 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 3 Idlehands
Aug 11th, 2014 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True, but when they are 40, not when they are starting out as a teacher.
Quite why prostrate and not testicular cancer which can be passed to colleagues I am not sure.
They are LatAms though, who can figure what they are thinking? :o)
Prostrate = lying on the floor having been whacked around the head by a dictionary :-)
Aug 11th, 2014 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is the Purpose of these documentary inquiries...To formulate a policy for current foreign-related economic activities; and/or, to divert public opinion away from something else. Who knows: at the moment, it's a lot of “Smoke”.
Aug 11th, 2014 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems to be to blame external forces for a situation they were ultimately responsible for themselves - sovereign nation and all that.
Aug 11th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 5 Idlehands
Aug 11th, 2014 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I like that.
It's better than the real 'rubber glove' test for an enlarged prostate I can tell you. Even when it's done by a good looking female doctor!
Justice at last! Then Dilma, I think Maduro and Castro need a pep talk. Time for a summit.
Aug 11th, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0international companies aided Brazil’s military regime in its war against ‘subversives’
Aug 11th, 2014 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Will Brazil like to name these countries...
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Aug 12th, 2014 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Justice at last! Then Dilma, I think Maduro and Castro need a pep talk. Time for a summit.”
Nothing like a good witch-hunt to get people's minds off of the World Cup $billions and the faltering economy.
The Brazil truth commission is nothing but a farce, to allow Dilma and her “gang” to get revenge against the military (for only doing their job) and to hand out huge sums (of taxpayer money) to indemnify the commie cowards for abuses they were allegedly submitted to at the hands of the Military...a bloody joke !...the fact that the PT absolutely refuses to authorize an investigation into the actions of these glorified communist cowards - such as assaulting banks , theft, kidnapping (US Ambassador), killing innocent bystanders, assassinations (US Army Captain, brazilian military personnel) - makes their “truth Commission” totally illegitimate, if not illegal...but why would that bother the communists sitting in Brasilia ??
Aug 12th, 2014 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/11/brazil-s-truth-commission-looking-into-foreign-companies-helping-the-military-regime-crackdown-on-subversives#comment344532: So, you believe that the job of the military is running juntas and torturing people.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 04:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I believe that the Military stepped in (in March 1964) to save Brazil from becoming another Cuba and a satellite of the then USSR. The current government is formed by the very people who wanted to transform Brazil into another Cuba....they are still doing their best, but not even at that are they competent. Unless you lived here at the time (50 years ago), you have no clue about what was going on at the time......but enough said, not going to waste my time on idiots.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 Jack
Aug 13th, 2014 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“.....but enough said, not going to waste my time on idiots.”
Well, you're right, you ARE wasting your breath with Hepatia/ British Bomber
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/11/brazil-s-truth-commission-looking-into-foreign-companies-helping-the-military-regime-crackdown-on-subversives#comment344619: I'm sure you do believe what you say. The question is, given your obvious paranoia, whether we should find what you believe to be credible.
Aug 14th, 2014 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any one of the generals in the military administrations could have resigned and run for president in open and free elections. Their problem is that they knew that they had very little support. And one reason that they had so little support is that they were largely incompetent.
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Aug 14th, 2014 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obvious paranoia ?? what a load of crap ...first of all, you “obviously” did not live in Brazil at the time, and you most likely do not live here now, so with what authority d'you talk about the 1964-1985 period in Brazil ? Second, are you a psychiatrist ?? As to the credibility of what I've written @14, IF you had lived here - which you “obviously” didn't - or had “educated” friends, true middle-class who lived through the whole experience - which is unlikely - they would tell you the same thing . I'm not trying to convince you of anything, or to rewrite recent history, just telling it as it is ...the simple truth. The fact that the participants of the current government, are those urban “guerilla fighters'” is why they systematically try to cover up the crimes “they” perpetrated , and refuse to allow that 'their' crimes be investigated. WHY ?? Because if all the dirt came to the surface, the poor, ignorant believers would stop believing. The fact that Dilma participated in bank robberies and kidnappings, is all recorded in her criminal files, which are now accessible to the general public. All you have to do, is want to check it out. Few do.
The fact that the military, during the a/m period, did not call for free elections, was because the restoration of public order and progress needed time to consolidate...so much so that when the general public went to the streets, asking for the return of civilian rule, the Army stepped down, without the slightest resistance. None of the Military Presidents left the posts as rich men. They left the same way they went in. Quite different to Lula, now, extremely wealthy. During the period they governed, Brazil went ahead tremendously with regards to infrastructure. They set the base for civilian rule in 1985, which unfortunately, with the exception of FHC's 2 terms as president (1995-2002), has been a disgusting failure. Unless you know your facts, let it rest.
17 Jack Bauer
Aug 14th, 2014 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting post.
Thanks.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/11/brazil-s-truth-commission-looking-into-foreign-companies-helping-the-military-regime-crackdown-on-subversives#comment344896: Your assertion is false. In fact I was a Brazilian income tax payer at various intervals during the military administrations.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Due to the nature of the projects upon which I worked and companies was then employed by I had a lot of contact with people in the Brazilian government. And, of course, likewise with your “true middle class”. But I was lucky because I was also able meet many less exalted Brazilians (many more than you). So, my appreciation of the Brazil of that time is well informed.
The military administrations were a failure. They knew it and it is for this reason that they exited. In any case there were a number of demonstrations against the military. I seem to remember that Geisel had to be rescued from a possible lynching in Florianopolis because he opened his mouth and said the wrong thing - many years before 1985. And then there was the whole Lula thing in 1979...
It is ironic that the last two presidents were active opponents.
Due to your self identification it is correct to call you paranoid on a purely stochastic basis. But, further, your tendency to believe conspiracy hypotheses in the absence of supporting evidence identifies you as a paranoid person.
It is hard to see that if Dilma's record is public how she can be said to be trying to cover it up. My guess that she is proud of her record. It may be that it is a political asset.
In the US it is a matter of doctrine that any and all Americans have the right to forcibly oppose oppressive government. If a what happened in 1964 in Brazil was to occur in the US then every American would have the right - in fact the duty - to oppose, forcibly or otherwise, the resulting administrations until the Constitution was restored. So, irrespective of Dilma's performance as president, at that time she was a Brazilian patriot and an American hero.
@ 19 Hepatia
Aug 16th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still spouting nonsense I see: “It is hard to see that if Dilma's record is public how she can be said to be trying to cover it up. My guess that she is proud of her record. It may be that it is a political asset.”
Apart from she denied any knowledge of the murder of the US Military Officer in front of his wife and children by her own cell of which she was the leader.
So answer this: is she a liar because she did know or incompetent because she should have known (and stopped it)?
This 'record' would only be an asset if the people are all easily taken in and bribed by Bolsa Familia'. Ah, I see your point: they are!
If you were really involved with the Bazilian Government it's no wonder thay are fucked up.
Hippy @19, the fact that you lived here a short while, does not mean you know Brazil....don't kid yourself. It's easy to see where your coming from, you are just a commie-minded idiot who believes it's fashionable to say you like Lula, Dilma and all the rest of the shit they represent. As to your perception of :
Aug 17th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It is hard to see that if Dilma's record is public how she can be said to be trying to cover it up. My guess that she is proud of her record. It may be that it is a political asset”.....the fact is that the opposition, unfortunately, does not stoop to the same low political level that the PT does. I think they should. Fight fire with fire. And I assure you, Hippy-flower, if the population in general was to become aware of Dilma's past, it would not be a political asset.....unless you believe that they would be Ok with knowing that the fat b*tch is guilty of kidnapping and assassination...But by all means, keep on believing your own lies, I couldn't give a rat's arse about you.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/11/brazil-s-truth-commission-looking-into-foreign-companies-helping-the-military-regime-crackdown-on-subversives#comment345376: As you imply I am not a Brazilian voter. But you are. So, if you believe that Lula and Dilma are not suitable people to be president then I suggest that you not elect them to office.
Aug 18th, 2014 - 04:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Certainly all the Brazilians I know are well aware of the contents of Dilma's record. It has been widely discussed. But if you believe that it is being suppressed why do you not publicize it? Could it be that to do so would only boost Dilma's popularity - despite your assurances?
You sound to me like a impotent and disgruntled old man who is ignored by his peers. Very sad.
22 Hepatia/British bomber
Aug 18th, 2014 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You sound to me like a impotent and disgruntled old man who is ignored by his peers. Very sad.”
You sound like a paid bitter hateful Troll with no
compunction about lying and misrepresentation
@22 Hippy,
Aug 18th, 2014 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lula and Dilma are definitely not presidential material, but in a country with so many idiots, that doesn’t seem to matter. Dilma might still get in, although most recent polls see her losing ground. The fact that 15 million families, or 30 million voters, get the “Bolsa Família”, means the presidential election starts at PT, 30,000,000 x Opposition, ZERO.
It's no secret that the first social programs to help the poor, on national basis, were created by Ruth Cardoso, FHC's wife, but in order to qualify, the candidate had to fulfill certain conditions...for ex: “Bolsa Escola” (school aid), they had to enroll their kids in school and actually send them. FHC created various similar programs. Funnily, during the 2002 presidential campaign, Lula denounced the programs on national TV, as being no more than a form of buying votes, but asa the SOB was elected, he joined all the federal social programs created during FHC mandates, eliminated all pre-conditions, and proudly called it the “Bolsa Família”. And then, at the end of his 1st mandate (2003-2006), when accused of having copied FHC, he actually had the gall to go on public record and state, “there are people” - i.e., the opposition - ”who are jealous, and have the courage to insinuate that I created the 'Bolsa Família' only for the purpose of getting votes”... however , the videos of ‘honest” Lula, criticizing the programs as political propaganda BEFORE he was elected, and then claiming to be their creator AFTER he was elected, can be seen on 'youtube'.
Although Dilma's criminal record is a fact , it's highly unlikely , while she's in power, it'll be reported by the mainstream media...as it's a notorious fact the PT has a good part of the MSM in their pocket. And, the only thing that boosts her popularity, are handouts.
And last of all, I couldn't care less what you think I am, your opinion is totally meaningless and irrelevant , just as you are.
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/11/brazil-s-truth-commission-looking-into-foreign-companies-helping-the-military-regime-crackdown-on-subversives#comment345594: Ah yes. Its not your fault. Its somebody else's fault. This is the motto of the “true middle class” - along with, “I want my country back”. See: http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/11/brazil-s-truth-commission-looking-into-foreign-companies-helping-the-military-regime-crackdown-on-subversives#comment345594:
Aug 19th, 2014 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think I saw an article a few months ago that stated that all of the (then) possible presidential candidates were promising that Bolsa Familia would remain as it is. So, presumably, it is not an issue, and will swing no votes, in the up coming election.
Wow. A democratic politician proposing a particular policy in order to increase their vote. Who would have thought! That in itself must be a sufficient argument for a return to military dictatorship. Don't you think?
It appears to me that if you believe that the 'MSM' is so deficient then it presents a business opportunity for you to start your own media site. Your first article should be a piece of non news - that is Dilma's well known criminal record. It will be interesting to see how well it goes.
I realize that discussing the subject with you is useless....you twist facts, are unsuccessful in your irony, and think that by reading biased news reports in whichever country you live now - not Brazil - entitles you to be an expert on Brazilian affairs. If you don't live it, forget it. You aren't smart enough to decipher the shit for yourself, so you gobble it up. Enjoy lunch.
Aug 19th, 2014 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2014/08/11/brazil-s-truth-commission-looking-into-foreign-companies-helping-the-military-regime-crackdown-on-subversives#comment345766: I find you inability to formulate a coherent argument instructive. It is this inability that is the root cause of your failure in Brazil. Your “real middle class” has nothing to say and is irrelevant.
Aug 20th, 2014 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fact the article was written by a Brazilian journalist, living in Brazil, and published in Brazil. The reason I linked to it was that it was about one of the first things I observed in Brazil in the early 1970s - a time of the dictatorship. It was the “real middle class” (in reality an elite oligarchy) that was the main constituency of the illegitimate military dictatorships. But the problem was that this group had no real connection to Brazil at all. They had the characteristics of a foreign colonial power. Their only ideology was to protect their position of privilege at any cost by keeping the majority of Brazilians poor and disenfranchised.
What has changed for you is that Brazil is now a democracy. It is this fact that makes you irrelevant. And your inability to garner votes will maintain your irrelevance.
One of the advantages I have over your is that when I'm in Brazil I meet more real Brazilians in one month than you will meet in your life time. This is because I'm not stuck in a “real middle class” enclave as you are.
I should say that I observed the same phenomenon with the “real middle class” in Argentina and Venezuela.
27 Hepatia / British bomber
Aug 20th, 2014 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“They had the characteristics of a foreign colonial power. Their only ideology was to protect their position of privilege at any cost by keeping the majority of Brazilians poor and disenfranchised.”
Isn't that what is happening NOW in populist Ststes of Venezuela, Argentina, and increasingly in Brazil, considering that guarantees of public handouts are key election issues.
You are right to be concerned about a government like that.
@27 “” I find you inability to formulate a coherent argument instructive. It is this inability that is the root cause of your failure“”“
Aug 20th, 2014 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First of all, may I suggest that you learn how to write the English language correctly.
Second, you just harp on the same ole crap, and all your conjectures about the ”elite oligarchy“, illegitimate military dictatorship, your wandering off the track about ”foreign colonial powers“ , is so off-target , it is pitiful.
The military had no ideology , in the sense that they wanted to implement , or indoctrinate the people. Their main concern was to prevent Brazil from becoming a continental-sized Cuba. They had no ambition further than that, so much so, they stepped down peacefully when public pressure mounted. Pressure which, was exerted by people with noble ideals, but no idea how to go about it. And today, what we have in Brazil, under the PT, is a ”Ditadura Branca“ , which is clear in every policy that emanates from the PT , Lula and fat-ass Dilma. The fact that they ”fiddled around“ with the various already existing social programs, and renamed them ”Bolsa Família“, which as far as I'm concerned is OK, cannot alone, be interpreted as all that has to be done. Far from it.
Since you are so well informed about Brazil, please tell me where the one trillion reais allocated to PAC 1 and PAC 2 went to.....the ”promised” infrastructure (seaports, airports, highways, hospitals, Federal prisons etc) which when the PAC's were launched 8 and 5 years ago, was supposed to eliminate ALL the bottlenecks, is nowhere to be seen...neither is the money. You are probably aware of the lamentable state the federally backed national public health service is in....the one that Lula had the nerve to say at the end of his 2nd term, “it is near to perfection, as good as any 1st world country's”....If he were a comedian, it would be funny, but as it is, it's tragic. Hippy, your information is totally biased.
@ 29 Jack Bauer
Aug 20th, 2014 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You cruel b*gger!
Don't confuse this idiot with the TRUTH, that will never do for a commie. :o)
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