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Uruguay wants Unasur to reach a consensus position of Gaza Strip conflict
Uruguay will ask fellow members at the Unasur summit to be held in Montevideo later in the month to discuss the Gaza Strip situation, said Foreign minister Luis Almagro who next week will be meeting a delegation from the Palestine Authority. Almagro and president Jose Mujica have been questioned for using the words 'genocide' and 'massacre' to describe the Israeli offensive in Gaza. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNo surprise here. A former terrorist like PP Mujica and Dilma telling Israel it’s genocidal to defend themselves from terrorists.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Israel will have to be patient; these kinds of Latam governments will start to die out in the mid decade onwards. Israel must be more concerned about shifts in attitudes towards it in Europe.
Hey Pepe… when are you sending ambassadors and recognizing the new state??
http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2014/06/16/isis-uncensored-and-reloaded-video-2/
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I am sure that UNASUR are sending humanitarian aid to GAZA.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why everyman and his dog have to have a say in the GAZA situation and not do anything constructive. Tell me, PEPE was not a terrorist akin to HAMAS when he was younger, ditto DILMA.
HYPOCRITES the lot of them.
He needs to be slapped with his own sandals.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0You'd think Israel could expect some gratitude at least for supplying the junta during the Falklands war.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8463934/Israel-supplied-arms-to-Argentina-during-Falklands-War.html
Yup- South American Nations - along with the Arab ones = two faced hypocites the lot of them.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where is their humanitarian aid to Gaza? UK is provoding aid!
Interesting that Quatar is an Arab nation critical of it and calling for hostilities to end etc - Quatar gives Hamas the money to buy the rockets
of course!
Mujica is about on the same level as those corrupt sheikhs
Argentina invasion of Falklands. 3 civilian deaths attributed to British friendly fire from HMS Avenger.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0British invasion of Iraq. 300 plus civilian deaths
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Aug 12th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0#6 And your point? Iraq has a civilian population more than 30,000 times that of the Falkland Islands. Moreover, Iraq was defended by sizeable (albeit ultimately ineffective) armed forces (potentially 1 million combatants including reserves) compared to the Falklands Islands 57 marines* and ~40 local volunteers.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0* That Argentine forces attempted to murder in their sleep.
Throwing the word “terrorist” back and forth is not helpful.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All sides are guilty of terrorism here. The Israelites used terrorist tactics against the Brits in Palestine. Hamas use terrorist tactics against Israel today.
It was a mistake to create the Israeli state after WW2. The problems will continue until an equitable solution is reached.
It was never a mistake to create the state of Israel. The Jews valiantly created the state. Today it is one of the most economically , culturally and technologically advanced countries on the planet.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imbeciles like Mujica should be looking to emulate similar economic and educational policies in Uruguay. Then they might get somewhere.
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Aug 12th, 2014 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Where is their humanitarian aid to Gaza? UK is providing aid!”
I don’t know how much money UK is sending into Gaza, (the Arab league that doesnt even recognize citizinship to the Palestinian refugees should be providing it). But a politically correct anti-Semitic Brit head of UNRWA is part of the problem. The same schools he is given money to build and upkeep preach hatred towards Israel and the Jews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG7cgATwB4
But he cries and is very sensitive...
Perhaps UNASUR should be punished for violating the rights of the Falkland a Islanders because the UN ICJ has declared that the right to self-determination has an erga omnes character and places obligations on 'all States.'
Aug 12th, 2014 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't help but feel that it'd be an awful lot easier to get consensus amongst the whole of Unasur condemning Israel, if one of the largest members wasn't trying to buy eighteen second-hand Kfir multirole aircraft from them on very shaky credit.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10
Aug 12th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What so culturally advanced about the belief that 2000 years ago your version of the Sky Fairy said you could have a particular territory whenever you wanted, regardless of who might be living there at the time?
@6. Yeah, good, isn't it? Arabs, foreigners, persians, things. If you don't have a British origin, you're not “people”.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9. Who are “Israelites”? The re-creation of Israel was one of the few correct actions of the United Nations. Once Israel had been attacked by four arab armies, the major incorrect action of the United Nations was not to deploy armed forces and eradicate arabs and muslims. And there's the “equitable solution”, eradicate arabs and muslims.
Israel cannot continue to expect support from Europe and the US when they have no intention of discussing the main issue at hand which is the occupied land they chose to extend at will. The west needs to stop supplying then with arms and so much political support.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conversely Gaza did themselves no favours at all voting in a terrorist organisation to lead them.
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Aug 12th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Way to go, Conq, that must be almost as culturally advanced as the Hutus of Rwanda.
Hands up if you're bored of the I/P conflict and usually find MP to be a safe haven from it.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UNASUR has “zero” influence on the Israel-Palestinian issue. Or am I wrong?
Aug 12th, 2014 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 Conq
Aug 12th, 2014 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who are “Israelites”?
Broadly speaking the descendants of the Hebrew nation.
I am sorry to inform you that the British did not back the creation of the Israeli state. The Israelis unilaterally declared the formation of an Israeli state.
On Israel's application to the UN security council for recognition, guess who abstained? .... The UK ... and even more unthinkable (for you) in the same vote Argentina voted in favour of recognising Israel!!!
Conq, this is serious, you are backing a historical Argentine position as correct and a British one as incorrect... give it another 20 years and you'll be backing the '82 junta.
Mujica is a despicable hypocrite and has been a complete disaster for the country.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, he’ll be out on his neck early next year and good riddance.
“Uruguay's two leading publications said Mujica used the word 'genocide' out of his sheer 'ignorance' and 'imbecility', and strongly suggested he looks up in the dictionary the meaning of 'genocide'.”
Aug 12th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This newspaper is a joke.
The one who said that was not the editorial of El País, but Andres Oppenheimer, a jewish- argentinian 3rd class journalist, known for his zionist activity.
It is more or less the same shit as Pepe Eliaschev, but a bit less pathetic.
As for El Observador, they only described the statements of Mujica and Almagro.
“The one who said that was not the editorial of El País, but Andres Oppenheimer, a jewish- argentinian 3rd class journalist, known for his zionist activity.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is more or less the same shit as Pepe Eliaschev, but a bit less pathetic.”
I gather that anybody with Jewish ancestry, free market ideas and pro Israel is a Zionist in your view
@ 22 Polly
Aug 12th, 2014 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Recoginizing that your English is somewhat 'selective' as is your logic, here is the BBC definition for genocide.
Genocide:
“It is the mass extermination of a whole group of people, an attempt to destroy an entire group and wipe them out of existence.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11108059
This, of course, is what Hamas is dedicated to do but the Israelis are the target.
Now of you go with the calling names, etc.
Ah, you mean like what Mitre, Sarmiento, Flores, and the rest of the kurepi tried to do to the Paraguayos... genocide.
Aug 12th, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does UNASUR have a position on Venezuela´s incarcerated oppositors? do they have a position on Cuba´s repression and human rights violations? I guess these aren´t politically correct questions for Mujica.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0@17. Better than your ignorance and cowardice.
Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@20. Actually, if you research, you'll find that the creation of the present-day State of Israel was down to the United Nations. And when the greedy arabs attacked, what did the UN do. Nothing. A couple of years later, the UN went to war in Korea. Are you incapable of reading and understanding what is typed? Let's try again. “The re-creation of Israel was one of the few correct actions of the United Nations. Once Israel had been attacked by four arab armies, the major incorrect action of the United Nations was not to deploy armed forces and eradicate arabs and muslims. And there's the “equitable solution”, eradicate arabs and muslims.” You see, dimwit, that the Israeli State was backed by the British Balfour Declaration. Tell you what I will back. The total destruction of every latam state and all their people. They seem to be incapable of understanding the most prevalent language in the world. Perhaps you should take a course. Or were you drunk?
@22. Sorry? And the opinion of a 3rd rate nazi such as yourself is of importance? How? Why?
@26. UNASUR doesn't have a POSITION on anything. UNASUR is an argie mouthpiece. Therefore its position varies according to the current argie lies.
@27 Conq
Aug 13th, 2014 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see that you are clearly rattled at the realization that you have unwittingly endorsed Argentina's early support for the Israeli state (at a time when the UK sat on the fence).
Now, I have already been good enough to define “Israelite” for you, but I wasn't counting on having to help you out on the Balfour Declaration too. But seeing as you are out of your depth when not reeling off lists of military hardware, I will extend the help a little further out of sympathy.
There are two relevant points to consider about the Balfour declaration in the context of the UK abstaining from the UNSC votes on the recognition of Israel.
Firstly, the declaration dates from 1917 (during the British mandate), whereas the UN SC votes took place after the end of the mandate.
Secondly, the declaration called for a “national home” for the Jewish people, not a “state”. The ambiguity was deliberate.
As a point of interest, the declaration also stated: “it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine”
In other words the British were not pushing for an Israeli state, they were looking for a solution that would alienate neither side. Or maybe we could call it an “equitable solution”. It is understandable, they held important investments in the Arab world.
In most people it is a healthy sign of a critical mind to criticise one's own county, but in your case seeing as you invest so much in insisting that everything British is correct it could signify an identity crisis.
A Conq supporting Argentina and trashing the UK is just not what we want to see here, so sort yourself out soldier.
Back to basic training.
Back to what you know.
I'll start you off....
23 Apache attack helicopters
16 Warrior IFVs
2 amphibious assault ships....
and what can you, imbecile x 10000, know about oppenheimer and eliaschev?
Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what do you, imbecile x 100000, know about their relation with eduardo elsztain, george soros and other zionist delinquents?
sadly this piece of crap of elsztain is one of the most appreciated allies of this government.
let´s see if the next govt has the balls to send that rat to jail.
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Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Other that they are pretty good journalists nothing else ... It’s up to a retarded nazi like yourself to uphold your accusation.
You are the typical idiot that believe in Masonic conspiracy theories and Zionist taking over the world
@18 idlehands - Hand Up!
Aug 16th, 2014 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0------------------------------------------
@26 JoseAM
I agree, very good point.
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As for the article;
I don't see the why UNASUR needsto have a 'position' on this. No-one really cares what it is. Whatever it is, or will be. Especially those directly involved in the conflict.
They have no influence outside of Lat Am and very little inside of it. I imagine it is just an excuse for these 'jolly-boys' to have another conference, play at being political grown-ups whilst shacking up in swanky hotels at tax-payers expense. Then they will fly home and continue doing whatever it was they were doing before.
It's a farce.
Another talking shop from which no action will emanate. Once they have spent a few days discussing their 'position' what next? Will they send Aid and medics, or troops and armour, or exert economic sanctions and heavy political influence?
No, they will not. They will do nothing but feel self-satisfied and full of their own importance. As usual.
Complete waste of time. They should be cleaning up their own backyards before opining on the state of others.
30 come cabeza dura por popa.
Aug 16th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0masonic theories?
do you train to be so imbecile?
moishe, marica & boludo...you are not the luckiest guy on earth, are you?
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