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“Homeland or Vultures” militants rally in support of Cristina Fernandez

Wednesday, August 13th 2014 - 06:57 UTC
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Thousands of Argentine pro government activists gathered at the Luna Park stadium in Buenos Aires City, to express their support in favor of President Cristina Fernández stand against the so called holdouts (or 'vulture funds') as well as her continuity at the head of the Kirchnerite project. Read full article

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  • toxictaxitrader2

    Mass delusion ,such a sad sight.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Is that Think in the headscarf and sunglasses?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    Las Vegas Judge Sides with NML in Argentine Bonds Spat

    “The allegations in the case mirror those set forth in a June 2013 report by Argentine prosecutor José María Campagnoli, who probed the financial affairs of Argentine President Cristina Kirchner, her deceased husband, former president Néstor Kirchner, and their associate, Lázaro Báez.”

    http://www.litigationdaily.com/id=1202666633771?rss=rss_tal_litdaily&slreturn=20140713033151

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    It is extraordinary.

    “Support the incompetant government or you are not Patriotic”

    This isn't Argentina versus foreigners...its economic mismanagement by the Argentine government, costing the Argentine people.

    Its sad to see so many, so easily fooled.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Argentina the laughing stock of South America, where do they find these “idiotas”
    LMAO

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Yes, according to the article, it's the British who are responsible for the situational “vulture” funds; and of course, hidden obliquely, also the Falklands Issue.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bubba

    Stoopid is as stoopid does...

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    'human rights policy'?? - how do you have a 'human rights policy' at the same time as saying that the 'Falkland Islanders' don't have 'human rights' and are just untermenschen

    Such is argentine hypocrisy!!!!!!!

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Peron “Defeating Time”!

    A bit like “Stevie” claiming he had the secret to free energy.

    Laws of the universe don't seem to have reached these morons.

    Let them carry on, it will all end in tears, not long to wait now.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Nice to see my tax (pesos) at work. Supporting these scumbags through illicit govt grants and payments.
    It is a who's who of corruption at this rally.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    These types of rallies are so “1940s” Dictatoresque. I think it is frightening that they still exist in these types of countries. I am surprised they weren't burning effigies of Singer or Griesa.

    The consortium of bankers have failed. Default stretches on and the noose gets tighter everyday.

    I think it is hilarious that they've lowered the Inter-bank rate a point to drive lending and consumer spending. Is there really a noticeable difference between 27 and 28%? Really? I think not.

    Banks are having to pay 58%, yes 58% to attract deposits. The end is nigh.

    People are getting scared, there's a palpable feeling of doom, that the cycle is over and the crisis is upon them.

    You can see it in the K supporters here they've had a definite change in tone since it is apparent to everyone where this is going.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    I wonder if they're responsible for the huge heist in Chile that happened yesterday.

    $7m would buy a lot of flags and donuts.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • najseba

    Government here are just a bunch of morons. Nationalism. Expropiation threats and laws which obligue markets to provide goods at maximum prices, etc. As Yankeeboy said, it is turning towards certain characteristics of fascism of the late 30s and 40s, but under a leftist banner.
    They seem to concentrate in exalting the passions and emotions of the common masses with flags, cries, and traditional symbols, acts of force like blocking newspapers distributions, etc.
    They have no idea of economics, they mismanage it by what is immediately seen, not the long term approach about attracting good business and deals. Poor country, poor people. Buenos Aires it is still a stronghold for reason though, where populism or peronism always looses.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @13
    Oh you forget to mention claiming crown sovereign territory that never belonged to them at any time in their history.

    Lemmings!

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • najseba

    Britworker: true. I do agree with that. Malvinas was a creation of the late 70s and beginning of 80s by the militar dictatorship too try to acquire popular support. A bunch of idiots, and our people is stupid too. Well they vote for these morons.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alistair Nigel (EUian)

    Finally Argentines are waking up against the foreign peril. Hopefully this is the start of the cleansing of the country from ALL foreign impurities.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    “Hopefully this is the start of the cleansing of the country from ALL foreign impurities.”

    You want the gene pool reduced to only that of the runt of the litter?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @16
    Might that include you, kurepi?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alistair Nigel (EUian)

    @18

    Isn't Buenos Aires the world's largest Paraguayan city? Maybe we should start there.

    Though then where would argie teenagers get their first sexual class if not with nanny Larissa?

    @17

    I think you will find European DNA is the most tainted both with pathogens and with non-Homo Sapiens DNA.

    We should strive for sequencing out of the bad Euro genes. Thank goodness I'm not European. I would scratch my skin to the point of burning it off.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @18
    Gotcha! lol

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @20

    This is a first, someone “gotching” himself!!

    This lack of IQ is why we must rid Argentina of the foreign peril. I am now officially a converted devout of this philosophy. Argentines unite.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Back on topic:

    What can wacko “Motherland or Vultures” protestors do, but shout and stamp their feet??!

    Nobody even notices them, outside of Argentina.

    This is just a little local drama.

    As effective as re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

    Hopefully, CFK stays in power long enough to be tarred with the brush for financial, economic, and political incompetence.

    Over a decade in power, The blame needs to stick to those who are responsible - the K's

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @22

    Since we hold the money, whether anyone outside notices or not is irrelevant.

    The entire rest of the feeble planet (the foreign peril), do not have a cent from us. So these “stomping protestors” have all the power, since they are the ones determining whether CFK will negotiate or not.

    So unfortunately for you, Argentines hold the destiny of matters on the debt. You feckless foreigners do not. Now stop wasting Argentine oxygen with you rants.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    13.15/1

    At some point BCRA can't keep this tamped down. Their float is almost gone, we re talking weeks not months now.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    A development:

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/166980/us-judge-allows-‘vultures’-to-go-after-báez

    ...Baez was the guy caught up in the K-Money Trail scandal:

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/166980/us-judge-allows-‘vultures’-to-go-after-báez

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Idlehands,
    Thanks for the link.
    This soap opera continues to entertain me...

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    In 1806 Buenos Aires was a Spanish colonial city and at the time a war between Spain and Britain was in effect. What does this have to do with Argentina and its problems with its creditors? NOTHING!

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Where is Think? Didnt they have a rally in Dunoon? Err…. I mean Chubut? A rally without a totally sane and lucid spokesman isnt very effective, but a rally with insane grunting morons is not going to be taken seriously anywhere. Why arent they in Times Square NYC?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @27

    Lies. You attacked the PEOPLE of Buenos Aires, not the Spanish military, which was not there actually. You fought the militias of the city, you attacked them, killed them.

    Your British point of view is utterly irrelevant. And you lost so it is even less so. History is written by the victors.

    We had to control the foreign vermin. And saved ourselves from the disastrous fate of British domination.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #16
    Ein Reich !!!!

    #29
    Yes, just think, you may have turned out the failures that Canada, Australia and New Zealand have become.

    Have you had your DNA tested?. Maybe, just maybe you have some Spanish conquistador blood in your veins. They were not fussy who they humped back in those days. Or from the views you are evincing it is more likely a Nazi welcomed by Peron. As the saying goes “it is a wise child that knows his father”...remember, you were not there at the time so you cannot be certain.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @30

    Let me put it another way. The Spanish were/are vermin, and the British are vermin. Anything not part of your body is vermin. It is not an insult, just a fact.

    Antibodies eliminate them.

    Argentina is developing the antibodies finally.

    First the Argentine people, 2nd the Argentine people, last the Argentine people!!!

    Al grito de Patria! Al grito de Patria!
    PATRIA! PATRIA! PATRIA!

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    13.30/1

    As the Peso fails inflation skyrockets.

    Anyone know what they're going to call the next currency? My advice is to start designing it now. Nuevo Austral, Peso Oro? Any guesses?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 32 yankeeboy

    Kleenex Supersoft, oh no, that's worth something.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @29 4n conTroll
    “History is written by the victors. ”

    1982?
    you agree then?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    33. When I lived there I used a 5 peso note to tip bartenders, bellhops etc. Now its worth U$0.37.
    Sad
    Next week it will be worth even less.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    Inflation is no problem if salaries keep up or almost keep up.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    36. Bahahahaha that's the stupidest thing you've said in a long time
    and you've had some doozies lately!

    Your country is falling apart and you're oblivious.
    hilarious

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    36 Nostrils

    Laughing at you - how are the Mandarin lessons going ?

    Gave up on that one, did you?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    38. I guess he saw that the Chinese can't loan to countries in default either.

    ooops

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    How impossibly inept can these clowns be?

    First, go to a country where the rule of law still means something.

    Second, go to a state that by simply incorporating in profiles you as a potential criminal conspirator.

    Third, name an entity situated in banking rouge Seychelles as officer.

    Fourth, invest in the most emplosion prone local real estate market in the world.

    Fifth, do the Fourth at the absolute top of the market when cracks can already be detected in the underpinnings.

    -----------------------------------------------------

    This link:

    https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpSearch.aspx

    after “last name”, enter Aldyne

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    Baez, what did you pay for this advice? You could have hired your neighbors who are masters at this kind of thing.

    It will be hard for Singer to collect money that Nestor stole from rotting roadkill and that Baez probably lost in the LV, NV real estate BOOM/BUST.

    You guys can't do ANYTHING right! You're incompetent.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • najseba

    We're doomed. I wonder what will happen with our property & business when the savages go rioting on the streets being lead by government propaganda that it is us, the producers, who are provoking economic failure: surely our chavs (wachi-turros, hooligans, etc) will be plundering businesses all around the city if they can't get sport shoes, joggins, cell phones, prostitutes, alcohol or easy girls.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    41 If we can get a corpoorate sponsor - i.e. a multinational agro or energy company or even two or three of them and approval from Christians In Action - I think the country is ripe for a little altruistic intervention. The problem is that the next boss can't be the same as the old boss - they have to give the opportunity for the masses to steal a little too - it can't only be for those in the pink house.

    Viva la libre!

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I was suggesting to someone in another article that Tobi seems to be having a character/persona phase issue. Low and behold, than appears.........
    4n conTroll

    He really needs to be studied more so than a serial killer. I wonder how abused he is.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    These are the diehard fanatical sectors that have failed to adequately choose the next wining side hope on to the next peronist structure gov’t the smartest rats have already left the sinking ship.

    They think that stretching the holdouts conflict as much as they can will translate in votes, they are wrong the crisis will destroy them

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #31
    Tell me o wise one. How do you eliminate Spanish, Italian or any European DNA from your system ? Antibodies do not eliminate DNA .

    Argentina will become a pure race ? You still have ancestral indicators in your Mitochondrial DNA back to the first woman in Africa plus a mixture of other settlers through the generations.

    Define the Argentine people and how long must you have lived in Argentina before you qualify..recent immigrant, 1,2,3 generations ?
    Is Timerman Argentinian considering his ethnic background.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Another development!

    AFIP dog detects US$86,500 hidden in car

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/166934/afip-dog-detects-us500-hidden-in-car-

    I bet the dog will get a treat for that.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    46. Wanna bet the real amount found was quite a bit higher than what the AFIP police are claiming?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    I'm really sorry but I love to paste and copy this. The clowns fascist peronist NAZIonalists can't believe this is happening now.

    Emanates from bilateral agreements between China and Argentina that obligations will be led by the law and the courts of England.

    Minister Axel Kicillof gave banks and Chinese companies finance investments in Argentina a similar international legal protection to which the government questioned the vulture funds. The annexes to the treaties were signed, the Economy Minister agreed special jurisdiction to chinese firms and accepted the intervention of foreign courts to settle any potential disputes. This arises from the bilateral agreements which stipulates that obligations will be governed by the law and the courts of England.

    Kicillof agreed to step down as “irrevocable and unconditional” objection raised to any future international tribunals chosen by Argentina and China.

    The assignment of judicial sovereignty is explicit in loans for retrofitting “Belgrano Cargas”. The 1071 decree is already known and the extension of jurisdiction is located in the leafy Annex 400 folios. But the concessions would be similar in loans for hydroelectric megaprojects Santa Cruz and other financial agreements to be signed today with Xi Jinping methodology would have the same format as that included in the leonine agreement with Chevron.

    Delivering Kicillof judicial sovereignty contradicts the “story” Cristina Kirchner's own against the clauses that were granted in foreign debt in favor of the courts of Manhattan, where the conflict is settled with vulture funds. Cristina made this a flag and questioned the previous governments that accepted external courts, like Thomas Griesa.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Good to see TTT back from his sojurn in China and trip through Europe on his way back to La Patria. Even if it was virtual...
    Always adds a little local colour.
    :)

    Sad to see Argentina in the throes of terminal decline. These 1930s style rallies are not a sign of strength but symptomatic of desperation and false belief.
    In this modern age they are presenting nothing new but relying on outdated methods to encourage a deliberately misinformed and deliberately uneducated population.

    Thankfully many other countries have moved on and all of those people can help inform the Argentines through the power of social media.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @49

    I think a return to the 1930s is a refreshing change. I hope we get more of it.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    Even Think has given up… and all we are left with is Nostril - dead meat…

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @51

    Have you ever redacted a ratiotination which has educed my reaction or elicited a response?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    51 THE Voice

    Did you also notice a barely audible, but nevertheless irritating, inarticulate background droning noise @52???

    Your bestest pal,

    Troy T.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    @38

    You are so naïve if I was gay I would find it cute.

    I am studying to read Mandarin as we speak. You think it takes 2-3 months to do that? For Chinese themselves it takes 6 years !! Most foreigners never learn to even if they learn basic speaking, or even reach some fluency.

    I'm almost at 3.200 characters now. That brings me within 800 characters of formal literacy level of a secondary school graduate in China.

    I ALWAYS get what I want if it involves my will and determination. ALWAYS.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @54

    ....there it is ...again.... !!

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    How many Chinese characters do YOU know?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    ...more subhuman chattering @56... !!

    Do you think some rodent has built a little nest under the loo... ?

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    A murine obsession? wow.

    Aug 13th, 2014 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    hmmm... certainly monotonous...

    Aug 14th, 2014 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 4n conTroll

    I have retrieved all my vocabulary, which was lost transitorily during my fugue. So you should all please dust off those weighty tomes and once again endeavor to keep pace with my level of scholarship, pace everyone here.

    Aug 14th, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    zzz zz.... boring...

    Aug 14th, 2014 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    It is so funny to hear them screech and screech about Vaca Muerte still. I can't remember when anyone announced a find much less actual oil coming out of the ground.
    Anyhoo, nobody is going to be investing in country that's in default.
    Not even the Chinese
    Plus its not oil that the main concern its Nat Gas. They're running on fumes and its only going to get worse. Thank goodness industry is at a dead stop otherwise people would be freezing and eating uncooked food.
    Shouldn't be too long now tho...

    Aug 14th, 2014 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    “Thousands of Argentine pro government activists gathered at the Luna Park stadium in Buenos Aires City, to express their support in favor of President Cristina Fernández stand against the so called holdouts....”

    I wonder if these clowns are being paid in pesos or dollars?

    Aug 14th, 2014 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #60
    Who gives a damn about your self congratulary pedantry, except you.!!

    Forget about vocabulary and learn the grammar.

    Aug 14th, 2014 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    I assume Kissoff was standing there handing out pesos to the unemployed at the kiss-her-ass love in.

    Aug 14th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin

    63. Of course, some of them are getting paid something. The sad part is that some of them are there just because they believe ... just scary. Same joint where the biggest nazi rally outside of Europe took place in '38. Creepy

    A positive thing though ... a friend of mine was in the vicinity and he didn't see “thousands”, he just saw what is termed here as a “four crazy cats”

    Aug 14th, 2014 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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